From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V7 #77 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Thursday, October 24 2002 Volume 07 : Number 077 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA [TRman2323@aol.com] sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA [TRman2323@aol.com] Re: sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA ["Christian Boyon] Re: sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA [TRman2323@aol.co] Re: sycophant Lisa [Bradley Be ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:26:33 -0400 From: TRman2323@aol.com Subject: sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA Well, I finally got to see Lisa do her own stuff last night. It was wonderful. She played electric piano and electric guitar and sang. She was accompanied by Sebastian on 5-string electric bass. She did a mix of old and new songs. A couple of the new ones I didn't like that much, but maybe I will after I hear them some more. She didn't like it when people clapped, said there was something she doesn't like about applause (kills the mood she's trying to establish in her songs, is my guess). She said if we wanted to make her feel at home we should bark and meow. So we did for awhile--she liked that, but I guess people felt too dumb doing that and went back to clapping. I guess seeing her live I was able to integrate all those aspects of her I've been aware of, her (usually disembodied) voice, that hint of little-girl thing she does with her voice, her excellent musicianship, her genius composing skills, her face, her body, and see her as a whole person. I couldn't quite do that just listening to her albums (seeing her perform with the Eels last year didn't help much--she was just a very competent side-person). Like one thing I've always had a hard time with is that she comes across in a lot of her songs as very fucked-up and depressed (albeit with a sense of perspective and humor about it). It's hard to reconcile that with her incredibly capable and professional musicianship. In real life (okay, she's still on stage, it's not quite real life), she just seems kind of wistful, not really depressed. She delivers the songs in a manner consistent with this. At the same time, she really doesn't showcase her performance skills...she plays well, but never pulls out all the stops. Maybe this is her way of coping with the competent performer/sad little girl disconnect? Now that I think about it, she's been going this way with her albums. "Moon Palace", her first album, is the most technically elaborate, both arrangement-wise and performance-wise (e.g., the cello playing on "Blue Monday" is absolutely killer--sounds like some betrayed, wounded beast). Since then, the instrumentation has taken more of a back seat to the songs. I got to talk to her a little at the end of the show. "Great show," I said "I flew down from Oakland tonight to see you play." "What? From where?" "From Oakland. I flew down from Oakland just to see this show." "No way!" "It was worth it." "That's too far to come..." "Now you'll probably tell me you're coming up there next month..." "No..." wistfully, "no, I'm not..." "I saw you play with the Eels up there, but it's not the same thing." "No, it's not the same." "Anyway, it was a great show." "Thanks!" I guess could have talked to her more, but I was afraid of imposing, so I took off. Damn! I forgot to tell her she's a genius! Went back to my rented car to find a $40 parking ticket. With that, plus air fare, car rental, hotel, parking, and $13 to get into the show, I spent about $400 to see Lisa play one set! I'm so glad I did though...I never got a chance to see so many of my heroes (Bach, Django Reinhardt, Thelonius Monk, The Beatles, The Doors...) so it's just wonderful to be able to see the ones that I can. And I think it's a much better deal than paying $1000 to see a World Series game. It does annoy me a little that I spent $400 and Lisa didn't get a penny...it was a benefit. (For pro-choice--lucky it wasn't a pro-life benefit, I wouldn't have been able to go! I don't know, maybe I would have, after going that far.) I'll just have to buy a bunch of her albums and give them to people for Christmas or something. - --Tom Lucas - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:28:13 -0400 From: TRman2323@aol.com Subject: sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA Well, I finally got to see Lisa do her own stuff last night. It was wonderful. She played electric piano and electric guitar and sang. She was accompanied by Sebastian on 5-string electric bass. She did a mix of old and new songs. A couple of the new ones I didn't like that much, but maybe I will after I hear them some more. She didn't like it when people clapped, said there was something she doesn't like about applause (kills the mood she's trying to establish in her songs, is my guess). She said if we wanted to make her feel at home we should bark and meow. So we did for awhile--she liked that, but I guess people felt too dumb doing that and went back to clapping. I guess seeing her live I was able to integrate all those aspects of her I've been aware of, her (usually disembodied) voice, that hint of little-girl thing she does with her voice, her excellent musicianship, her genius composing skills, her face, her body, and see her as a whole person. I couldn't quite do that just listening to her albums (seeing her perform with the Eels last year didn't help much--she was just a very competent side-person). Like one thing I've always had a hard time with is that she comes across in a lot of her songs as very fucked-up and depressed (albeit with a sense of perspective and humor about it). It's hard to reconcile that with her incredibly capable and professional musicianship. In real life (okay, she's still on stage, it's not quite real life), she just seems kind of wistful, not really depressed. She delivers the songs in a manner consistent with this. At the same time, she really doesn't showcase her performance skills...she plays well, but never pulls out all the stops. Maybe this is her way of coping with the competent performer/sad little girl disconnect? Now that I think about it, she's been going this way with her albums. "Moon Palace", her first album, is the most technically elaborate, both arrangement-wise and performance-wise (e.g., the cello playing on "Blue Monday" is absolutely killer--sounds like some betrayed, wounded beast). Since then, the instrumentation has taken more of a back seat to the songs. I got to talk to her a little at the end of the show. "Great show," I said "I flew down from Oakland tonight to see you play." "What? From where?" "From Oakland. I flew down from Oakland just to see this show." "No way!" "It was worth it." "That's too far to come..." "Now you'll probably tell me you're coming up there next month..." "No..." wistfully, "no, I'm not..." "I saw you play with the Eels up there, but it's not the same thing." "No, it's not the same." "Anyway, it was a great show." "Thanks!" I guess could have talked to her more, but I was afraid of imposing, so I took off. Damn! I forgot to tell her she's a genius! Went back to my rented car to find a $40 parking ticket. With that, plus air fare, car rental, hotel, parking, and $13 to get into the show, I spent about $400 to see Lisa play one set! I'm so glad I did though...I never got a chance to see so many of my heroes (Bach, Django Reinhardt, Thelonius Monk, The Beatles, The Doors...) so it's just wonderful to be able to see the ones that I can. And I think it's a much better deal than paying $1000 to see a World Series game. It does annoy me a little that I spent $400 and Lisa didn't get a penny...it was a benefit. (For pro-choice--lucky it wasn't a pro-life benefit, I wouldn't have been able to go! I don't know, maybe I would have, after going that far.) I'll just have to buy a bunch of her albums and give them to people for Christmas or something. - --Tom Lucas - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:08:54 +0000 From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA Yeah, thanks a lot Tom. I miis this, someone who talks personally and gives details and isn't afraid to write more than 5 lines. Great! But, it's true, it's not every day someone here is seeing Lisa. Surely not I, here in Belgium. Have to wait. But I'm really happy things are going further : an official site, a new album, a world tour maybe. Weepie!!! Christian from Brussels >From: TRman2323@aol.com >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA >Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:28:13 -0400 > >Well, I finally got to see Lisa do her own stuff last night. It was >wonderful. > >She played electric piano and electric guitar and sang. She was accompanied >by Sebastian on 5-string electric bass. She did a mix of old and new songs. >A couple of the new ones I didn't like that much, but maybe I will after I >hear them some more. > >She didn't like it when people clapped, said there was something she >doesn't like about applause (kills the mood she's trying to establish in >her songs, is my guess). She said if we wanted to make her feel at home we >should bark and meow. So we did for awhile--she liked that, but I guess >people felt too dumb doing that and went back to clapping. > >I guess seeing her live I was able to integrate all those aspects of her >I've been aware of, her (usually disembodied) voice, that hint of >little-girl thing she does with her voice, her excellent musicianship, her >genius composing skills, her face, her body, and see her as a whole person. >I couldn't quite do that just listening to her albums (seeing her perform >with the Eels last year didn't help much--she was just a very competent >side-person). > >Like one thing I've always had a hard time with is that she comes across in >a lot of her songs as very fucked-up and depressed (albeit with a sense of >perspective and humor about it). It's hard to reconcile that with her >incredibly capable and professional musicianship. > >In real life (okay, she's still on stage, it's not quite real life), she >just seems kind of wistful, not really depressed. She delivers the songs in >a manner consistent with this. At the same time, she really doesn't >showcase her performance skills...she plays well, but never pulls out all >the stops. Maybe this is her way of coping with the competent performer/sad >little girl disconnect? Now that I think about it, she's been going this >way with her albums. "Moon Palace", her first album, is the most >technically elaborate, both arrangement-wise and performance-wise (e.g., >the cello playing on "Blue Monday" is absolutely killer--sounds like some >betrayed, wounded beast). Since then, the instrumentation has taken more of >a back seat to the songs. > >I got to talk to her a little at the end of the show. > >"Great show," I said "I flew down from Oakland tonight to see you play." > >"What? From where?" > >"From Oakland. I flew down from Oakland just to see this show." > >"No way!" > >"It was worth it." > >"That's too far to come..." > >"Now you'll probably tell me you're coming up there next month..." > >"No..." wistfully, "no, I'm not..." > >"I saw you play with the Eels up there, but it's not the same thing." > >"No, it's not the same." > >"Anyway, it was a great show." > >"Thanks!" > >I guess could have talked to her more, but I was afraid of imposing, so I >took off. Damn! I forgot to tell her she's a genius! > >Went back to my rented car to find a $40 parking ticket. > >With that, plus air fare, car rental, hotel, parking, and $13 to get into >the show, I spent about $400 to see Lisa play one set! I'm so glad I did >though...I never got a chance to see so many of my heroes (Bach, Django >Reinhardt, Thelonius Monk, The Beatles, The Doors...) so it's just >wonderful to be able to see the ones that I can. And I think it's a much >better deal than paying $1000 to see a World Series game. > >It does annoy me a little that I spent $400 and Lisa didn't get a >penny...it was a benefit. (For pro-choice--lucky it wasn't a pro-life >benefit, I wouldn't have been able to go! I don't know, maybe I would have, >after going that far.) I'll just have to buy a bunch of her albums and give >them to people for Christmas or something. > >--Tom Lucas > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:44:46 -0400 From: TRman2323@aol.com Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa's show last night at Spaceland in LA It was my pleasure to write it...I've been going through Lisa withdrawl all day. I kept thinking how I'd like to hire her to come play in my office. :) Anyway, writing that let me extend the buzz a little bit. - --Tom Lucas - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:07:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Be Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa I would like everybody to know that I am offering limbs in exchange for recordings of any recent LG shows. Anybody need a new arm? A leg? Send me an e-mail. I also have some other Lisa G & Juliana Hatfield shows to trade, in case you're not in the market for body parts :) Thank you to everybody who posted concert reviews!!! 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