From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V5 #35 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Wednesday, March 8 2000 Volume 05 : Number 035 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sycophant tribute 2 ["Christian Boyon" ] RE: sycophant Unclear on the concept ["Christian Boyon" ] Re: sycophant Unclear on the concept ["Christian Boyon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:31:06 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: Re: sycophant tribute 2 I am interested and I don't want someone to cry about it. I'm maybe naive but, is it possible to extend the tribute to people who aren't on Sycophant or is Sycophant a kind of sect with some "chosen ones" (how do you say "élus" in French ?). Why don't we ask some professional musicians to help us, I don't know. Christian >From: "efrain schunior" >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: sycophant tribute 2 >Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:56:46 MST > > > > >>It doesn't really matter. There are no songs. No one willing to >>participate. we >>have been through this a lot over the last year and I don't much feel like >>sending my song to yet another person where we will go over the sam ground >>again and again. It is over. Forget about it > > >i think just because someone flaked out (and poor reid, we don't even know >what happened) doesn't mean we can't still be gung ho. >and, to me, if we were ever gung ho about it, we should still be. >is there anyone at all out there still interested > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:43:27 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: RE: sycophant Unclear on the concept If I said I'm interested in the tribute, Sara is right when she want to re-focuses a little bit on some news about Lisa. By the way, as I'm a French speaking kind of guy (do you notice my accent?), can someone say to me if the name Lisa is pronounced like a e for the i like in eels, for example,or like Liza Minelli. I'm not sure I'm clear enough 'cause I don't remember my phonetic symbols. There is a band from Brussels called Venus who composed a song for Lisa and they pronounced it like in "ice" and that troubles me a little bit. Thank You Christian >From: "Sara Weldon" >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: RE: sycophant Unclear on the concept >Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:38:08 -0800 > > >This is all getting very tedious - Can we limit emails about >the tribute album idea ONLY to those who are actually doing something >with it? (ie. "Hey everybody check out this link to hear my cover >of one of Lisa's songs")?? > >All of this other static (20-25 emails a day minimum) is really >depressing and not getting anywhere. > >And furthermore the point of the list, from my understanding, >is not to put out cds - a valiant effort which I applaud - but >to exchange info on Lisa that would otherwise be hard to come >by so kindly email in the future if you have info on Lisa albums, >tours, or Eels tours etc. But I think it's time for a back-to-basics >focus for the sake of sanity. > >Does that sound good to anyone? I hope so. > > > >|--- Original Message --- >|From: nevermor@mhonline.net >|To: sycophant@smoe.org >|Date: 3/2/00 9:27:56 PM >| > >|as far as I know the tribute cd is over. The idea has been scrapped >due to lack of participation. The end >| >|TRman2323@aol.com wrote: >| >|> >I really don't think they're gonna crack down on a few dozen >people who do free MP3s of an artist 90% or the world doesn't >even know exists. >|> >|> I think you're right; ironically, though, the person who gets >ripped off is that very artist this album is supposed to be a >tribute to! > > > >---------------- >Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com >FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and >Great Ways to Share them with Others! > > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:51:16 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: sycophant No news? The tour with Eels? Lisa who want to work with Joey Burns? OKay, that's not much But imagine something. And what about her working in a bookshop. Yes, and so what and what next. And how is she? And how is Miamo-Tutti? And do you know Thor, Lisa's drummer on tour, is gonna play with Michael Gira (ex-Swans) Etcetera, etcetera. Christian >From: nevermor@mhonline.net >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: Re: sycophant Unclear on the concept >Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:40:04 -0500 > >Well, I think that since there Is no new news on Lisa that this tribute >project is the big news. > >Sara Weldon wrote: > > > This is all getting very tedious - Can we limit emails about > > the tribute album idea ONLY to those who are actually doing something > > with it? (ie. "Hey everybody check out this link to hear my cover > > of one of Lisa's songs")?? > > > > All of this other static (20-25 emails a day minimum) is really > > depressing and not getting anywhere. > > > > And furthermore the point of the list, from my understanding, > > is not to put out cds - a valiant effort which I applaud - but > > to exchange info on Lisa that would otherwise be hard to come > > by so kindly email in the future if you have info on Lisa albums, > > tours, or Eels tours etc. But I think it's time for a back-to-basics > > focus for the sake of sanity. > > > > Does that sound good to anyone? I hope so. > > > > > > |--- Original Message --- > > |From: nevermor@mhonline.net > > |To: sycophant@smoe.org > > |Date: 3/2/00 9:27:56 PM > > | > > > > |as far as I know the tribute cd is over. The idea has been scrapped > > due to lack of participation. The end > > | > > |TRman2323@aol.com wrote: > > | > > |> >I really don't think they're gonna crack down on a few dozen > > people who do free MP3s of an artist 90% or the world doesn't > > even know exists. > > |> > > |> I think you're right; ironically, though, the person who gets > > ripped off is that very artist this album is supposed to be a > > tribute to! > > > > ---------------- > > Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com > > FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and > > Great Ways to Share them with Others! > > > > ------- > > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > > ------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > > unsubscribe sycophant > > > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of >computers, > > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > > unsubbing. > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:52:50 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: Re: sycophant Unclear on the concept That's exactly what I tried to say, Stian >From: Stian Sandberg >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: Re: sycophant Unclear on the concept >Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:51:06 +0100 > >I, for one, threw my artwork (not exactly art tho), in my trash can a >couple of weeks back. I sort of gave Reid a month to resurface, but >he didn't so I scrapped it. I don't know why i said that, but i guess >in a weird way i still hope for it to happen, and if it does i'd be >more than willing to try it again. > >It's weird tho, that some people seem to demand the idea be scrapped >totally, maybe there are others who want to do it? obviously not >enough, but isn't there a way we could publish this thought, and >maybe gather more people? I'm sure there are a couple of people on >the Throwing Music-list who'd be interested. I'm just thinking out >loud, dreaming out louder. there's a chance it might come to be, >right? > >"somebody stopped her , maybe they were scared - it will never come out >now..." > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:54:12 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: Re: sycophant Unclear on the concept That's in fact a better idea than mine. >From: Stian Sandberg >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: Sycophant >Subject: Re: sycophant Unclear on the concept >Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:50:22 +0100 > >it's a muses-list with quite a few lisa-fans i think. I was just >thinking I had a hard time finding Sycophant , so I thought we might >"advertise" the idea around the net, maybe it would be nice for the >people who still want to make the cd-project happen, to let other >people know that they could contribute something. does this make >sense? > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:16:10 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?RnJhbudvaXMgQ2Fy6Q==?= Subject: sycophant It's a real good idea ! Myles, I think it's a very good idea. Please don't give up. Some does not understand that it takes time to rehearse, record and mix a song, and then send it. See: I could not access to my hotmail account since last friday until today. See: I wanted to participate myself, making a cover of one song in french, but at this time, I didn't find any musician (I'm not one) to help me. If anyone is interested... If you need any help, mail me. I can help for the artwork. We could include the original one as it is, if the guy is okay, and/or make a new one. I own a CD copier and can make a few copies if that does help you (not 1000). I think the tribute CD may release with the few songs that we own and then grow up with other ones in the following month. It can be a living project. About royalties, law may be a little different here in France. But I know anyone may do a cover of any song without asking to anybody (I remember Lou Reed complaining about it as some girl made a bel canto cover of Walk On The Wild Side). I think there's nothing to pay if no-one makes money with it. Anyway sharing it with the peoples of the list must be like sharing private copy. Maybe we should just write to Lisa to ask her if she's okay. I guess she will be. I can do it, if you want. But my english is not so good (as you must have noticed). Keep in touch. Francois. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:50:19 GMT From: "Christian Boyon" Subject: Re: sycophant It's a real good idea ! Finally someone who cares for Lisa. You're welcome François, Christian, from Belgium. you wrote: >Maybe we should just write to Lisa to ask her if she's okay. I guess she >will be. >Francois. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Mar 2000 23:28:02 +0100 From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme Subject: sycophant Royalties [Herr Mails] > Hmm, I just wonder how this paying for the royalities is handled > when I release a mp3 on my homepage. If you're releasing it as CD > you have to pay a certain amount of money to the GEMA (that's what > this corporation is called here in Germany...) and everyone's > happy. > > But what about MP3's? Any ideas? There has to be a way to do it > legally! No lawyers here, working in the music industry? You pay the money to the organization in the country your server is, so you should ask GEMA. In the US, it is one of ASCAP, BMI, NMPA or SESAC. Here in Norway, TONO seems to be quite Internet-savvy, and allows you to distribute songs if you pay them 100 NOK (approx. USD 12) per 10 minutes of music per month. That's not too bad, actually. Kjetil T. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. 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