From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V5 #30 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Thursday, March 2 2000 Volume 05 : Number 030 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sycophant i'm finished [Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com] re: sycophant i'm finished ["Robert Schiferl" ] Re: sycophant i'm finished [Pedro Borges ] Re: sycophant i'm finished [LD ] RE: sycophant i'm finished [Joe Wiencis ] Re: sycophant i'm finished [Pedro Borges ] Re: sycophant i'm finished [LD ] RE: sycophant i'm finished [Joe Wiencis ] sycophant RE: finished ["Sara Weldon" ] Re: sycophant RE: finished [LD ] RE: sycophant RE: finished [Joe Wiencis ] Re: sycophant RE: finished [nevermor@mhonline.net] Re: sycophant i'm finished [nevermor@mhonline.net] Re: sycophant RE: finished [Pedro Borges ] Re: sycophant RE: finished [nevermor@mhonline.net] Re: sycophant RE: finished [Chris Clough ] Re: sycophant i'm finished [nevermor@mhonline.net] Re: sycophant RE: finished [Pedro Borges ] Re: sycophant RE: finished ["Robert A. Farace, Jr." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:08:27 -0500 From: Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com Subject: sycophant i'm finished LG fans, Due to a lack of songs, I am not proceeding with the LG tribute album. I wonder if this is why Reid gave it up too. There are other things I want to work on and frankly, I'm just not excited about it anymore. It's frustrating when people commit to something and don't deliver. To the three people who actually sent something, your items will be returned within the next few days. Thanks for sending your work. Your recordings were cool and I wish you the best of luck in finding ways to distribute your work. I will also be signing off from the list altogether. joe - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 9:07:37 CST From: "Robert Schiferl" Subject: re: sycophant i'm finished Joe, Sorry to hear that you are dropping the project, though I share your frustration. Heck, to be honest I would be interested in getting the CD even if it only had three or four songs on it. Or possibly someone could send out MP3s to the list. Can we change your mind? Rob - ---------- Original Text ---------- From: , on 03/01/2000 8:14 AM: To: inet[] LG fans, Due to a lack of songs, I am not proceeding with the LG tribute album. I wonder if this is why Reid gave it up too. There are other things I want to work on and frankly, I'm just not excited about it anymore. It's frustrating when people commit to something and don't deliver. To the three people who actually sent something, your items will be returned within the next few days. Thanks for sending your work. Your recordings were cool and I wish you the best of luck in finding ways to distribute your work. I will also be signing off from the list altogether. joe - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:27:02 +0000 From: Pedro Borges Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished > Sorry to hear that you are dropping the project, though I share your > frustration. Heck, to be honest I would be interested in getting the CD even > if it only had three or four songs on it. Or possibly someone could send out > MP3s to the list. I agree with Rob. I share the same opinion. I wish I had the material and the talent to perform a Lisa song, but I haven't. Still, I'd love to have a Germano Tribute CD, even with few songs in it. It'd be great, and it would be a collector's edition album. Efrain has just returned to the list, and he'll send another song. We can pull this out. If you really don't feel like making the CD, at least let's have the songs in MP3. Maybe then someone would like to go on with the project, or some new people come up with new songs to fill the CD. Just don't give up like that! :/ - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:41:47 -0500 From: LD Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished yeah, i finally got my track mastered and sent yesterday... though actually i'm not into the mp3 idea at all. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:44:47 -0500 From: Joe Wiencis Subject: RE: sycophant i'm finished At least someone gets to hear it if you MP3 it. I would prefer a 'real' CD but if that fails, I'm all for MP3s - -----Original Message----- From: LD [mailto:ld@btldesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 10:42 AM To: sycophant@smoe.org Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished yeah, i finally got my track mastered and sent yesterday... though actually i'm not into the mp3 idea at all. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:55:06 +0000 From: Pedro Borges Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished > yeah, i finally got my track mastered and sent yesterday... That means we have two new submissons on the way! LD's and Efrain's. Plus 3 submission Joe already has, and his own. That makes 6 tracks. :) - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:01:02 -0500 From: LD Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished on 3/1/00 10:44 AM, Joe Wiencis at jwiencis@phaseforward.com wrote: > At least someone gets to hear it if you MP3 it. I would prefer a 'real' CD > but if that fails, I'm all for MP3s yeah, but by posting them publicly we'd be violating all kinds of copyright laws... - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:11:41 -0500 From: Joe Wiencis Subject: RE: sycophant i'm finished And we're not already? - -----Original Message----- From: LD [mailto:ld@btldesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 11:01 AM To: sycophant@smoe.org Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished on 3/1/00 10:44 AM, Joe Wiencis at jwiencis@phaseforward.com wrote: > At least someone gets to hear it if you MP3 it. I would prefer a 'real' CD > but if that fails, I'm all for MP3s yeah, but by posting them publicly we'd be violating all kinds of copyright laws... - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:03:35 -0800 From: "Sara Weldon" Subject: sycophant RE: finished It's true that 'we' have already violated copyright laws by doing the various covers of Lisa's music - putting mp3's up would just be violating the law a little more publically. I'm thinking we could post them on internet really quickly for a few days with all credits to Lisa Germano and the appropriate label, etc. And then we would all have a chance to listen/download? Does anyone here host a site for Lisa?? I'm all for breaking the law if it's done super-dooper fast & easy :) |--- Original Message --- |From: Joe Wiencis |To: "'sycophant@smoe.org'" |Date: 3/1/00 4:11:41 PM | |And we're not already? | |-----Original Message----- |From: LD [mailto:ld@btldesign.com] |Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 11:01 AM |To: sycophant@smoe.org |Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished | | |on 3/1/00 10:44 AM, Joe Wiencis at jwiencis@phaseforward.com wrote: | |> At least someone gets to hear it if you MP3 it. I would prefer a 'real' |CD |> but if that fails, I'm all for MP3s |yeah, but by posting them publicly we'd be violating all kinds of copyright |laws... | | | - ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others! - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:15:12 -0500 From: LD Subject: Re: sycophant RE: finished on 3/1/00 12:03 PM, Sara Weldon at saw@cloud9.net wrote: > I'm all for breaking the law if it's done super-dooper fast & easy :) yeah, actually i meant that doing a cdr for private (controlled) distribution is less likely to get us into trouble than posting mp3s and allowing anyone access to them. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:17:51 -0500 From: Joe Wiencis Subject: RE: sycophant RE: finished Don't tell everyone. - -----Original Message----- From: LD [mailto:ld@btldesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 12:15 PM To: sycophant@smoe.org Subject: Re: sycophant RE: finished on 3/1/00 12:03 PM, Sara Weldon at saw@cloud9.net wrote: > I'm all for breaking the law if it's done super-dooper fast & easy :) yeah, actually i meant that doing a cdr for private (controlled) distribution is less likely to get us into trouble than posting mp3s and allowing anyone access to them. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:15:03 -0500 From: nevermor@mhonline.net Subject: Re: sycophant RE: finished Why do you think it will happen? Nobody cared enough about the cd so I am tired of all the fake talk LD wrote: > on 3/1/00 12:03 PM, Sara Weldon at saw@cloud9.net wrote: > > > I'm all for breaking the law if it's done super-dooper fast & easy :) > > yeah, actually i meant that doing a cdr for private (controlled) > distribution is less likely to get us into trouble than posting mp3s and > allowing anyone access to them. > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:17:28 -0500 From: nevermor@mhonline.net Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished I, (being one of the 3 who submitted a song) have to agree with Joe. I mean look at how many people had sent songs to Reid- http://www.apocalypse.org/~friday/psz/germano/ What happened to everybody?I have an email from Reid that said he had received almost all except for a few songs. And he told me who the few were. I guess you all are just doing a lot of internet dreamin... Very frusterating indeed. I don't blame you at all Joe, at least you tried . Thank you. I too am considering leaving the list after all this. Thank you all. Darrell Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com wrote: > LG fans, > > Due to a lack of songs, I am not proceeding with the LG tribute album. I wonder > if this is why Reid gave it up too. There are other things I want to work on > and frankly, I'm just not excited about it anymore. It's frustrating when > people commit to something and don't deliver. > > To the three people who actually sent something, your items will be returned > within the next few days. Thanks for sending your work. Your recordings were > cool and I wish you the best of luck in finding ways to distribute your work. > > I will also be signing off from the list altogether. > > joe > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:25:09 +0000 From: Pedro Borges Subject: Re: sycophant RE: finished > > I'm all for breaking the law if it's done super-dooper fast & easy :) > > yeah, actually i meant that doing a cdr for private (controlled) > distribution is less likely to get us into trouble than posting mp3s and > allowing anyone access to them. Well, we would not post the MP3 to the public. Only to the people on the list. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:24:25 -0500 From: nevermor@mhonline.net Subject: Re: sycophant RE: finished If I remember correctly Joe doesn't even have a set up to do MP3's and besides that he isn't interested anymore. So why bother? More idle talk...... Pedro Borges wrote: > > > I'm all for breaking the law if it's done super-dooper fast & easy :) > > > > yeah, actually i meant that doing a cdr for private (controlled) > > distribution is less likely to get us into trouble than posting mp3s and > > allowing anyone access to them. > > Well, we would not post the MP3 to the public. Only to the people on the list. > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:36:39 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Clough Subject: Re: sycophant RE: finished - --- nevermor@mhonline.net wrote: > If I remember correctly Joe doesn't even have a set > up to do MP3's and besides > that he isn't interested anymore. So why bother? > More idle talk...... Idle talk on this list? Surely you jest! - -Chris > > Pedro Borges wrote: > > > > > I'm all for breaking the law if it's done > super-dooper fast & easy :) > > > > > > yeah, actually i meant that doing a cdr for > private (controlled) > > > distribution is less likely to get us into > trouble than posting mp3s and > > > allowing anyone access to them. > > > > Well, we would not post the MP3 to the public. > Only to the people on the list. > > > > ------- > > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > > ------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the > message: > > unsubscribe sycophant > > > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > > address. AOL users please read the instructions > six lines up before > > unsubbing. > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > ===== "I hope you're waiting for me across your carpet of stars, 'cause I can't make it on my own" - -Mark Sandman (Morphine) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:33:05 -0500 From: nevermor@mhonline.net Subject: Re: sycophant i'm finished It's a shame too, cause Stian did dome really great artwork for the cd cover & back.. Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com wrote: > LG fans, > > Due to a lack of songs, I am not proceeding with the LG tribute album. I wonder > if this is why Reid gave it up too. There are other things I want to work on > and frankly, I'm just not excited about it anymore. It's frustrating when > people commit to something and don't deliver. > > To the three people who actually sent something, your items will be returned > within the next few days. Thanks for sending your work. Your recordings were > cool and I wish you the best of luck in finding ways to distribute your work. > > I will also be signing off from the list altogether. > > joe > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:12:11 +0000 From: Pedro Borges Subject: Re: sycophant RE: finished Don't quit on the tribute. We have 2 submission on the way. And even if we didn't, people still want that CD. The making of this CD will decide upon the future of the sycophant mailing list. If we lose this battle, the list will split and the morale will go down. You give up on the tribute and the list is blown away. We must stand together on this one, and it will be great when one day we'll be typing E-Mails at the sound of LG tribute CD. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:20:05 -0500 From: "Robert A. Farace, Jr." Subject: Re: sycophant RE: finished Sara Weldon wrote: > > It's true that 'we' have already violated copyright laws by doing > the various covers of Lisa's music - putting mp3's up would just > be violating the law a little more publically. We've gone through this before, but there is no violation of copyright by covering someone's song. One doesn't even need permission. But one *does* need to pay royalties. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ End of sycophant-digest V5 #30 ****************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to sycophant-owner@smoe.org