From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V4 #91 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Thursday, July 15 1999 Volume 04 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sycophant My sleeve :o) ["Stian Sandberg" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) ["Stian Sandberg" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) [Famous Goodbye King ] sycophant the artwork ["efrain schunior" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) ["Thomas Espe" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) [Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com] sycophant My sleeve #2 ["Stian Sandberg" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 ["Kerry Haslop" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 ["Thomas Espe" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 ["Herr Meils" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 ["Stian Sandberg" ] Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 [Famous Goodbye King ] Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) [Andy Campbell-Howes ] RE: sycophant My sleeve :o) [Joe Wiencis ] RE: sycophant My sleeve :o) [Chris Clough ] Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) [Famous Goodbye King ] Re: sycophant Re: format of recording [Chris Clough ] Re: sycophant Re: format of recording [Famous Goodbye King ] Re: sycophant Re: format of recording [Famous Goodbye King Subject: sycophant My sleeve :o) Mind y'all this is just a scetch, and the colours are kinda weak, but that's the whole web-thing's fault. Anyway, I don't think this is my final attempt, it just shows which way I'm going.. I don't think I can link this, but I hope it works: http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisagermano.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:28:14 GMT From: "Stian Sandberg" Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) It links automatically! Wow! - -S ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:32:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) you guyz are the bomb loving it. reid > Mind y'all this is just a scetch, and the colours are kinda weak, but that's > the whole web-thing's fault. Anyway, I don't think this is my final > attempt, it just shows which way I'm going.. I don't think I can link this, > but I hope it works: > > http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisagermano.html > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:28:53 MDT From: "efrain schunior" Subject: sycophant the artwork Everything has been GRRRRRRREAT I know I'm going to have a hard time when we finally do vote on all the artwork. Wow. eef _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:25:30 CEST From: "Thomas Espe" Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) Wow!!!! ThE [:-)< >From: "Stian Sandberg" >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: sycophant@smoe.org >Subject: sycophant My sleeve :o) >Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:26:44 GMT > >Mind y'all this is just a scetch, and the colours are kinda weak, but >that's >the whole web-thing's fault. Anyway, I don't think this is my final >attempt, it just shows which way I'm going.. I don't think I can link >this, >but I hope it works: > >http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisagermano.html > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:47:26 -0400 From: Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) Famous Goodbye King on 07/14/99 04:32:00 AM Please respond to sycophant@smoe.org To: sycophant@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Joe Horne/MATRIX) Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) Wow! This is very germanoish! And very nice! Good work! > Mind y'all this is just a scetch, and the colours are kinda weak, but that's > the whole web-thing's fault. Anyway, I don't think this is my final > attempt, it just shows which way I'm going.. I don't think I can link this, > but I hope it works: > > http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisagermano.html > > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:59:46 GMT From: "Stian Sandberg" Subject: sycophant My sleeve #2 I forgot to upload this one yesterday.. It's only gonna stay up for a little while (it takes a lot of space).. And the track-list etc. is not credible, as it's just based on notes from our Famous Goodbye King. It doesn't really fit with the cover, so I doubt it'll be a good pick, but at least it's there, so if you want, check out: http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisa_inlay.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:11:31 -0000 From: "Kerry Haslop" Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 Cool...your ideas definitely get my vote! :) >I forgot to upload this one yesterday.. It's only gonna stay up for a >little while (it takes a lot of space).. And the track-list etc. is not >credible, as it's just based on notes from our Famous Goodbye King. > >It doesn't really fit with the cover, so I doubt it'll be a good pick, but >at least it's there, so if you want, check out: > >http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisa_inlay.html > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:23:42 CEST From: "Thomas Espe" Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 Yeah, I agree with Kerry. Great work!!! ThE [:-)< >From: "Kerry Haslop" >Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >To: >Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 >Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:11:31 -0000 > >Cool...your ideas definitely get my vote! >:) > > > > >I forgot to upload this one yesterday.. It's only gonna stay up for a > >little while (it takes a lot of space).. And the track-list etc. is not > >credible, as it's just based on notes from our Famous Goodbye King. > > > >It doesn't really fit with the cover, so I doubt it'll be a good pick, >but > >at least it's there, so if you want, check out: > > > >http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisa_inlay.html > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > >------- > >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > >------- > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > >unsubscribe sycophant > > > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of >computers, > >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > >unsubbing. > > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:19:59 +0200 From: "Herr Meils" Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 Hi all! Wow, I think this looks really cool :o) And the others, too. I suggest, that all people, who already did or want to do some artwork, get a chance to create one page (or the two pages in the middle) of the booklet, so we get a pretty nice mixture of styles. I think we have a few people working on the whole thing and in my opinion it would make sense if this can be seen... well, that's just my thoughts. Hey, this is getting really professional... cool, I like that!!! Pablo <= loving the internet!!! :o) - -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Thomas Espe An: sycophant@smoe.org Datum: Mittwoch, 14. Juli 1999 15:26 Betreff: Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 >Yeah, I agree with Kerry. Great work!!! > >ThE [:-)< > > > >>From: "Kerry Haslop" >>Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org >>To: >>Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 >>Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:11:31 -0000 >> >>Cool...your ideas definitely get my vote! >>:) >> >> >> >> >I forgot to upload this one yesterday.. It's only gonna stay up for a >> >little while (it takes a lot of space).. And the track-list etc. is not >> >credible, as it's just based on notes from our Famous Goodbye King. >> > >> >It doesn't really fit with the cover, so I doubt it'll be a good pick, >>but >> >at least it's there, so if you want, check out: >> > >> >http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisa_inlay.html >> > >> > >> >______________________________________________________ >> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:25:21 GMT From: "Stian Sandberg" Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 That's a nice idea, it would definitely bring out the essence of the whole project. I vote for that suggestion :o) - - S ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:23:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve #2 i can't see it (fnf) send it to me and i'll put it on my site reid > I forgot to upload this one yesterday.. It's only gonna stay up for a > little while (it takes a lot of space).. And the track-list etc. is not > credible, as it's just based on notes from our Famous Goodbye King. > > It doesn't really fit with the cover, so I doubt it'll be a good pick, but > at least it's there, so if you want, check out: > > http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisa_inlay.html > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:34:31 +0100 From: Andy Campbell-Howes Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) hey Stian...have you taken it down already? I can't link to it... thanks everyone who commented on mine ;o)...I've put the prototype reverse (although with no tracklisting) http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.campbell-howes4/lgback.jpg if it got to the printing stage then I'd need some advice on how to make the resolution higher, I only did it with Paintshop Pro :o) Andy Stian Sandberg wrote: > Mind y'all this is just a scetch, and the colours are kinda weak, but that's > the whole web-thing's fault. Anyway, I don't think this is my final > attempt, it just shows which way I'm going.. I don't think I can link this, > but I hope it works: > > http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisagermano.html > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:50:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) > http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.campbell-howes4/lgback.jpg > > if it got to the printing stage then I'd need some advice on how to make the > resolution higher, I only did it with Paintshop Pro don't know how to do it in paintshop pro but if you figure it out go for 300dpi (not 70dpi which ends up being blotchy and tiny) reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:59:37 -0400 From: Joe Wiencis Subject: RE: sycophant My sleeve :o) Looks pretty cool but I'd lose the big S in the middle. - -----Original Message----- From: Famous Goodbye King [mailto:friday@apocalypse.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 1:51 PM To: sycophant@smoe.org Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) > http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.campbell-howes4/lgback.jpg > > if it got to the printing stage then I'd need some advice on how to make the > resolution higher, I only did it with Paintshop Pro don't know how to do it in paintshop pro but if you figure it out go for 300dpi (not 70dpi which ends up being blotchy and tiny) reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:18:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Clough Subject: RE: sycophant My sleeve :o) I can't believe how good your work is. Do you do this for a living? But while we're on the topic, how are the covers going to be made? Does someone have a sugar daddy who's going to pay for printing? Having recently priced these thing out for my band, I can tell you it's not cheap. Not trying to be a party pooper, just trying to be practical. - -Chris - --- Joe Wiencis wrote: > Looks pretty cool but I'd lose the big S in the > middle. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Famous Goodbye King > [mailto:friday@apocalypse.org] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 1:51 PM > To: sycophant@smoe.org > Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) > > > > > http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.campbell-howes4/lgback.jpg > > > > if it got to the printing stage then I'd need some > advice on how to make > the > > resolution higher, I only did it with Paintshop > Pro > > don't know how to do it in paintshop pro > but if you figure it out go for > 300dpi (not 70dpi which ends up being blotchy and > tiny) > > reid > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > === "If money talks I've pursed lips and I've left my tongue at home" - -The Trash Can Sinatras _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:39:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) > I can't believe how good your work is. Do you do this for a living? But > while we're on the topic, how are the covers going to be made? Does > someone have a sugar daddy who's going to pay for printing? Having > recently priced these thing out for my band, I can tell you it's not > cheap. Not trying to be a party pooper, just trying to be practical. that's why i want to keep it to a 2 panel shot. sorry guyz but it's expensive and every page you add doubles the price. i hope to get the best submissions printed. we'll see as things draw near, reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Clough Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording I'm sorry, I just can't let this go. I DID NOT SAY I THOUGHT ANALOG TAPES SHOULD BE RULED OUT. What I said first was that they sound crappy when transfered to CD. If anyone's ever done this I think they will back me up. But the gist of what I was trying to get across is that if DAT was a possibility then it shouldn't be ruled out. So it isn't a possibility, I understand that, that's fine. But if someone is really thinking about dropping (at least) $1200 bucks on this, it needs to be more than a boom box condenser mic recording with the phone ringing in the background. And by the way, you can't just record and release copyrighted material for profit on a whim. People go to jail for that. It's called bootlegging and it's illegal. At the very least we need the publisher's and the repertoire owner's consent. I apologise sincerely if I sound like a crank. I love Lisa's music and I fully support this project, but I feel like I'm watching what started out as a freindly little "get together" turn into what could be a huge debacle. And I don't want that. - -Chris - --- Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck wrote: > > > Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck wrote: > > > Well, its not like this is a Capitol records > release. I think the majority > > of us do not have the $ or equipment for DATs. I > think if we cut out analog > > tape contributions the , majority of us will bow > out. > > > > Chris Clough wrote: > > > > > It's been my experience that CD's made from > cassette tapes sound, well, > > > crappy. Is DAT a possibility? If it is I don't > see why we'd rule it > > > out. I can always make an analog tape from a > DAT, but going the other > > > way the quality tends to suffer. I'm imagining > the same to be true for > > > CD-R's? > > > -Chris > > > > > > --- Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck > wrote: > > > > So it sounds like we should send our songs on > > > > Cassette to you, Reid, and then you can > > > > burn them onto one cd and then we can pass > around > > > > the hat or whatever so we can pay > > > > for multiple copies > > > > > > > > Famous Goodbye King wrote: > > > > > > > > > m'okay.. > > > > > i don't have a dat anything :^> > > > > > i do have an 8-track recorder > > > > > and a cd-rw > > > > > and a mac with way too much software. > > > > > and a pc, but nevermind that. > > > > > > > > > > reid > > > > > > > > > > > I can submit my piece on analog tape or > digital > > > > tape but I don't have access to > > > > > > a CD-R (at least not at this time). is > that > > > > okay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === > > > "If money talks I've pursed lips and I've left > my tongue at home" > > > > > > -The Trash Can Sinatras > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > lines up before > unsubbing. > > === "If money talks I've pursed lips and I've left my tongue at home" - -The Trash Can Sinatras _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:41:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording > > I'm sorry, I just can't let this go. I DID NOT SAY I THOUGHT ANALOG > TAPES SHOULD BE RULED OUT. What I said first was that they sound crappy > when transfered to CD. If anyone's ever done this I think they will > back me up. But the gist of what I was trying to get across is that if > DAT was a possibility then it shouldn't be ruled out. So it isn't a > possibility, I understand that, that's fine. But if someone is really > thinking about dropping (at least) $1200 bucks on this, it needs to be > more than a boom box condenser mic recording with the phone ringing in > the background. And by the way, you can't just record and release > copyrighted material for profit on a whim. People go to jail for that. > It's called bootlegging and it's illegal. At the very least we need the > publisher's and the repertoire owner's consent. I apologise sincerely > if I sound like a crank. I love Lisa's music and I fully support this > project, but I feel like I'm watching what started out as a freindly > little "get together" turn into what could be a huge debacle. And I > don't want that. > -Chris > > > --- Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck wrote: > > > > > > Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck wrote: > > > > > Well, its not like this is a Capitol records > > release. I think the majority > > > of us do not have the $ or equipment for DATs. I > > think if we cut out analog > > > tape contributions the , majority of us will bow > > out. > > > > > > Chris Clough wrote: > > > > > > > It's been my experience that CD's made from > > cassette tapes sound, well, > > > > crappy. Is DAT a possibility? If it is I don't > > see why we'd rule it > > > > out. I can always make an analog tape from a > > DAT, but going the other > > > > way the quality tends to suffer. I'm imagining > > the same to be true for > > > > CD-R's? > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > --- Tricia Holtz & Darrell Whitbeck > > wrote: > > > > > So it sounds like we should send our songs on > > > > > Cassette to you, Reid, and then you can > > > > > burn them onto one cd and then we can pass > > around > > > > > the hat or whatever so we can pay > > > > > for multiple copies > > > > > > > > > > Famous Goodbye King wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > m'okay.. > > > > > > i don't have a dat anything :^> > > > > > > i do have an 8-track recorder > > > > > > and a cd-rw > > > > > > and a mac with way too much software. > > > > > > and a pc, but nevermind that. > > > > > > > > > > > > reid > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can submit my piece on analog tape or > > digital > > > > > tape but I don't have access to > > > > > > > a CD-R (at least not at this time). is > > that > > > > > okay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === > > > > "If money talks I've pursed lips and I've left > > my tongue at home" > > > > > > > > -The Trash Can Sinatras > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------- > > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: > > http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > > ------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > > unsubscribe sycophant > > > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an > > infinite number of computers, > > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub > > messages to the list > > address. AOL users please read the instructions six > > lines up before > > unsubbing. > > > > > > > > === > "If money talks I've pursed lips and I've left my tongue at home" > > -The Trash Can Sinatras > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:46:50 PDT From: "Miss Taci" Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) Eeek...! I have been told this file does not exist on the server... So frustrating... taci - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Joe_Horne@matrixresources.com Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org To: sycophant@smoe.org Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:47:26 -0400 Famous Goodbye King on 07/14/99 04:32:00 AM Please respond to sycophant@smoe.org To: sycophant@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Joe Horne/MATRIX) Subject: Re: sycophant My sleeve :o) Wow! This is very germanoish! And very nice! Good work! > Mind y'all this is just a scetch, and the colours are kinda weak, but that's > the whole web-thing's fault. Anyway, I don't think this is my final > attempt, it just shows which way I'm going.. I don't think I can link this, > but I hope it works: > > http://www.pineapple.no/kritisk/html/lisagermano.html > > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:50:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording > I'm sorry, I just can't let this go. I DID NOT SAY I THOUGHT ANALOG > TAPES SHOULD BE RULED OUT. What I said first was that they sound crappy > when transfered to CD. If anyone's ever done this I think they will I don't think you realize how good analog tape can sound. I don't think you realize how clean and cd quality and soft/warm it can be. I think you'd be amazed how much good stuff is recorded to this day on tape and not dat. > possibility, I understand that, that's fine. But if someone is really > thinking about dropping (at least) $1200 bucks on this, it needs to be > more than a boom box condenser mic recording with the phone ringing in duh. > the background. And by the way, you can't just record and release > copyrighted material for profit on a whim. People go to jail for that. > It's called bootlegging and it's illegal. At the very least we need the > publisher's and the repertoire owner's consent. I apologise sincerely who are you accusing of doing this? i've said repeatedly that since i'm leading this i intend to do it right, and have legal counsil to make sure i do. this pisses me off because nobody has ever stated that they are trying to bootleg or record and release this stuff without going thru the proper channels! > if I sound like a crank. I love Lisa's music and I fully support this > project, but I feel like I'm watching what started out as a freindly > little "get together" turn into what could be a huge debacle. And I > don't want that. i'm starting to feel like you sound like a crank. i'm wondering if you are causing drama where there is none. i feel that you are creating crisis under the name of so called advice. i certainly hope it's not the case. 'nuff said, i think this topic is dead, let's move on to the positive things, the creative process, and moving forward. sincerely, reid ps. chris, if you feel you need to reply, let's take it offlist. thanks. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:08:48 -0400 From: "Robert A. Farace, Jr." Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording > And by the way, you can't just record and release > copyrighted material for profit on a whim. People go to jail for that. > It's called bootlegging and it's illegal. At the very least we need the > publisher's and the repertoire owner's consent. Actually, this is *not* bootlegging. Bootlegging is the release for profit of unauthorized recordings by an artist. Selling audience tapes or unreleased studio cuts without authorization, for example. And believe it or not, you don't need the copyright holder's permission to record a song. Happens all the time. You just have to make sure you pay the appropriate fees. In fact, as long as the mechanicals are paid, the copyright holder can't stop you from recording and releasing a version of their song. No one bothers to ask permission every time they record a Dylan song, for instance. But ASCAP or BMI or SECAP is right there with their hand out to get paid. - --bob - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:41:39 +0200 From: "Herr Meils" Subject: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording Hi, I have another suggestion, Chris (or anyone), do you have the possibility to burn CD from DAT? If so all DAT tapes should be send to you. You convert them to CDR's and send them to Reid and there would be no problem anymore. And I think everyone has made different experiences with recording/converting/whatever and has a different taste, so the only advice I would like to give is, do what you want and try to give your best. And please let's not begin to argue about different recording-philosophies. I think everybody who makes music has a different one and reality shows, that many of them are working... sometimes... ;o) What I'm trying to say is, if you're convinced that analog tape is the best medium to across what you want to express do it, if you like it clean and digital do the same. BTW sometimes recordings that really sound super LO-FI are made on fully digital harddiskrecording systems, which are about like $50,000. So never trust anyone ;o) Cheers, Pablo - -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Famous Goodbye King An: sycophant@smoe.org Datum: Donnerstag, 15. Juli 1999 06:52 Betreff: Re: sycophant Re: format of recording >> I'm sorry, I just can't let this go. I DID NOT SAY I THOUGHT ANALOG >> TAPES SHOULD BE RULED OUT. What I said first was that they sound crappy >> when transfered to CD. If anyone's ever done this I think they will > >I don't think you realize how good analog tape can sound. >I don't think you realize how clean and cd quality and soft/warm it can be. >I think you'd be amazed how much good stuff is recorded to this day on tape >and not dat. > >> possibility, I understand that, that's fine. But if someone is really >> thinking about dropping (at least) $1200 bucks on this, it needs to be >> more than a boom box condenser mic recording with the phone ringing in > >duh. > >> the background. And by the way, you can't just record and release >> copyrighted material for profit on a whim. People go to jail for that. >> It's called bootlegging and it's illegal. At the very least we need the >> publisher's and the repertoire owner's consent. I apologise sincerely > >who are you accusing of doing this? >i've said repeatedly that since i'm leading this i intend to >do it right, and have legal counsil to make sure i do. this >pisses me off because nobody has ever stated that they are trying >to bootleg or record and release this stuff without going thru >the proper channels! > >> if I sound like a crank. I love Lisa's music and I fully support this >> project, but I feel like I'm watching what started out as a freindly >> little "get together" turn into what could be a huge debacle. And I >> don't want that. > >i'm starting to feel like you sound like a crank. >i'm wondering if you are causing drama where there is none. >i feel that you are creating crisis under the name of so called advice. >i certainly hope it's not the case. > >'nuff said, i think this topic is dead, let's move on to >the positive things, the creative process, and moving forward. > >sincerely, >reid > >ps. chris, if you feel you need to reply, let's take it offlist. thanks. > > > >------- >The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: >unsubscribe sycophant > >If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, >they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list >address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before >unsubbing. > - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ End of sycophant-digest V4 #91 ****************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to sycophant-owner@smoe.org