From: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org (sycophant-digest) To: sycophant-digest@smoe.org Subject: sycophant-digest V4 #73 Reply-To: sycophant@smoe.org Sender: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-sycophant-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk sycophant-digest Tuesday, June 22 1999 Volume 04 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue [Stian Sandberg ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:02:04 PDT From: Stian Sandberg Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue Ok. I've sent a request for joining the Livonia-list :o) I agree with you, Lisa and HNIA are about the only 4AD people that does it for me these days, with the exception of Kristin Hersh of course.. Could you recommend any of the HNIA-records? Ft.Lake is kinda poppy/funky and fucked up, but I have this pre-conception of their old releases, and I figure they're kinda noisy and scary (?) Mainly because of the v23-artwork, I suppose, but the first demos don't look that safe either :o) A Great Great Band It is anyways. - -S ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:24:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue > I think 4AD should tell us what's happening. They're so proud of that new > web-site, maybe its about time they actually used it for something other > than gusgus. > > Am I right? Hear hear! You hit that nail on the head. I'm so bored of GusGus. reid - -- http://www.apocalypse.org/~friday Feeling so sad. friday@apocalypse.org Could it be you? It's all about, Could you be why I'm feeling so sad? Reid MacDonald -- Eggs - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:33:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue this is what i got back from 4ad on lisa: > Reid, > > Lisa has deicded to take some time off from writing, recording etc. There > are no plans for her to release any material in the foreseable future. I > don't know if this would be on 4AD either. *sigh* reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:33:54 -0400 From: "Fleming, Dennis" Subject: RE: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue Say it ain't so, Lisa...say it ain't so... > -----Original Message----- > From: Famous Goodbye King [SMTP:friday@apocalypse.org] > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 1:33 PM > To: sycophant@smoe.org > Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue > > this is what i got back from 4ad on lisa: > > > Reid, > > > > Lisa has deicded to take some time off from writing, recording etc. > There > > are no plans for her to release any material in the foreseable future. I > > don't know if this would be on 4AD either. > > *sigh* > reid > > > > > ------- > The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ > ------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: > unsubscribe sycophant > > If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, > they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list > address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before > unsubbing. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:38:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue > Ok. I've sent a request for joining the Livonia-list :o) > > I agree with you, Lisa and HNIA are about the only 4AD people that does it > for me these days, with the exception of Kristin Hersh of course.. > > Could you recommend any of the HNIA-records? Ft.Lake is kinda poppy/funky > and fucked up, but I have this pre-conception of their old releases, and I > figure they're kinda noisy and scary (?) Mainly because of the v23-artwork, > I suppose, but the first demos don't look that safe either :o) > > A Great Great Band It is anyways. go for Stars on E.S.P. i think it's the list's fav recommendation. the pre-HNIA tapes are very experimental but you can hear how they became Livonia King of Sweet is also a bit experimental (but genius behind it) Livonia and Home is in Your Head are more like This Mortal Coil than anything HIIYH is more of a concept album. Mouth by Mouth was my first and is very accessable. there you go, reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:25:03 EDT From: HummerLGRD@aol.com Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue I don't think any of you folks are getting it. Lisa is NOT with 4Ad any longer....period. - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:03:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Famous Goodbye King Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue > I don't think any of you folks are getting it. Lisa is NOT with 4Ad any > longer....period. mmm. okay. i was just forwarding what 4ad had to say. it's not that i don't *GET* it. reid - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:15:45 GMT+0930 From: "Roderick Saunders" Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue I get it all right, I'm just in denial! - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:49:32 EDT From: StelthBear@aol.com Subject: sycophant Lisa's Last Dance OK, for those who are wondering about Lisa, here is an article that appeared in a Toronto magazine called NOW. I believe it is one of the last interviews she's given, and it was posted to the 4AD mailing list a few months ago. Hopefully this will answer some questions you have. For what it's worth...enjoy... - -- Stealth - -------------------------------------------------------------- Lisa Germano considers life beyond the music game By Kim Hughes It's sad but true. So steady yourselves, you fiercely devoted followers of Lisa Germano. After recording a handful of absolutely lovely, achingly candid nighttime albums, the Indiana-based singer, songwriter and violinist has decided to quit the music business. Or, more precisely, to quit music. Period. Just like that and without regret. While it would be easy to chalk up her decision up to industry inequities - radio didn't respond to her hushed sonic silhouettes, so she didn't sell enough albums to maintain her hear deal with 4AD - Germano offers a more sanguine view of why she's getting out. She simply doesn't have anything else to say right now. While she admits that could change, for the moment, her current tour opening for, and playing violin with, the Latin Playboys is foreseeably her last. Then it's back to her day job in a Bloomington bookshop until she figures something else out. But don't expect to find a mopey Germano on stage at Lee's Palace on Wednesday. She may be saddened that her records didn't do more business, but she's more resilient than her fragile songs suggest. And more upbeat, too, as she gabs down the line from L.A. "I'm trying to find some other career to follow, but I'm not really coming up with much," she admits with a chuckle. "The truth is, I can't make a living doing music anymore. I don't know what else to do but I *don't* feel like the tortured artist, that if I don't play music I might as well just die. I used to feel that way but I don't anymore. "The world is full of opportunities and the skills I learned as musician can be taken to another job. I just haven't figured out where to take it yet. But I'm open. Right now, I don't have a record deal, I don't have management and I just don't think anyone's interested in what I'm doing musically. "The thing about 4AD is, it's a small label and we all love each other but they don't have the resources to push me. So we decided that, if in the future I decide I make a record at home for free, they'd probably put it out. But they can't put anymore into me because they just don't have it." "And I knew this was coming. I actually thought they'd drop me after Love Circus. But I've always kidded around with the label and told them that when they had to drop me we should all have a party." "I just don't want to feel weird about things. After this last record" - - last year's gorgeous Slide - "it was a situation of 4AD can't sell my records and I can't make records they can sell." "So there're no hard feelings. It was just like a divorce, and similar to my own divorce, which both my husband and I wanted. It was no less heart-wrenching but we pulled through and now we're friends." Such stunning pragmation - no, stoicism - is typical of Germano, who's never let anything like commercial considerations stand in the way of making exactly the kind of career moves she felt were right. There can be little doubt that when she stepped out from behind John Mellencamp to write and record on her own, people thought she was nuts for giving up a regular paying gig. And yet now, looking over body of solo work, Germano's talent as a composer and player are obvious. Like that old chestnut "Nobody looks as beautiful as when they're walking out the door," nobody distills the essence of loss and alienation quite like Germano. Listen to commercial radio, though, with its endless, colourless stream of ThirdEyeSmash Box20's and you wonder why music as weird and arresting as Germano's isn't cutting through - perhaps a good question to pose to your fave station's program director. "You know," Germano offers, "I really haven't been listening to music much lately, because everything I hear, I hear 'record company' in it. Or I hear the artist's conversation with the manager or producer in it. I'm having a hard time hearing stufff that I find to be completely genuine." "But I know it's out there, stuff like Sparklehorse and Elliot Smith and Cat Power. But CD's are so expensive, so unless I know I'm going to love something, I can't afford to buy it." "With all my records, I always felt they should be present in the world. But I'm just not writing right now. I'm not focused, and I'll only do it if I feel there's another record that should be present in the world. I never thought my records would make money, so I've never done this for any other reason than that." "And if I write another record at some point, I'll look to any means of putting it out - maybe through the internet. I don't even own a computer and I'm too broke to buy one right now. But eventually I'd like to learn more about it. I think in the long run we're not going to need record labels anymore." "I mean, online, can't you listen to music and read some background about the artists? Going into a record store is just too overwhelming. There's too much choice." "What do we really need record labels for, anyway?" (Extracted from Now, April 15-21, 1999, Vol. 18; No. 33) - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 01:35:22 -0400 From: stu_ross@tvo.org (Stuart Ross) Subject: Re: sycophant Lisa's Last Dance sycophant@smoe.org writes: >OK, for those who are wondering about Lisa, here is an article that >appeared >in a Toronto magazine called NOW. I work at NOW. I am ashamed I didn't think to post this article. Myself and another one of the copyeditors are huge Lisa fans and we were stunned to read this. Stu - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt J Subject: Re: sycophant H N I A H N I A g lue On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Stian Sandberg wrote: > Could you recommend any of the HNIA-records? Ft.Lake is kinda poppy/funky > and fucked up, but I have this pre-conception of their old releases, and I > figure they're kinda noisy and scary (?) Mainly because of the v23-artwork, > I suppose, but the first demos don't look that safe either :o) Get _Home Is In Your Head_. Beautiful, psychedelic, and not really scary. And the noise is pretty noise, not harsh or grating at all. ANd as long as we're talking about 4AD bands other than GusGus, go get the Hope Blister album. It's like, This Mortal Coil, the Sequel. --Matt J - ------- The Ectophile's Guide to Good Music: http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/ - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with the message: unsubscribe sycophant If you gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of computers, they would all get AOL accounts and send unsub messages to the list address. AOL users please read the instructions six lines up before unsubbing. ------------------------------ End of sycophant-digest V4 #73 ****************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to sycophant-owner@smoe.org