From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V8 #47 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, February 22 2003 Volume 08 : Number 047 Today's Subjects: ----------------- tori "sighting" ["Lisa Zwick" ] Re: BFP and titles... [Dracovixen@aol.com] Bells for Her clip on BBC Radio 4 ["Captain Scarlet" Subject: tori "sighting" I just watched Birds of Prey which i had taped last night, and the episode closed with A Sorta Fairytale. For some reason, tho, the WB didn't mention the cd after the show, but they mentioned someone else's. Well, it was cool hearing it on there anyway (whether it fit the moment or not, I'm still not so sure). - -Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:52:16 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: BFP and titles... In a message dated 2/21/03 1:20:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > fact--perhaps you can be of help to me by giving me a few > titles to start from? :D (and not just Black Dove either.. anybody else > willing to help, feel free to pitch in.) Well, you might want to start just by reading some Greek Mythology - the tales including Circe (pigs), Io or Hera (cows), Gaia or Demeter (snakes), and Apollo's slaughter of Python. Edith Hamilton's Mythology is a classic, as is Bulfinch's Mythology, but I also love Robert Graves' Greek Myths, because that's like a tell-all (it includes how Aphrodite actually was the mother of 11 children, sired by almost as many fathers), and it truly shows the soap opera of the Greek Pantheon. But you can see in Greek Myths how Greek thought has helped shape Western Culture. The Alphabet vs. the Goddess by Leonard Shlain is by far the most interesting book I have read on the downfall of goddess worship and women's status. His theory is that literacy, specifically alphabetic literacy, is what promoted a worldwide decline in feminine values, right-brained values, and the value of women. His book outlines evolution, right brain vs. left brain, the history of several ancient cultures, the history of the alphabet, the witch craze, and the history of Christianity and the Bible, and how they helped to shape today's world. He also shows how when a new medium takes place in a civilization, how it throws off the balance of things within that culture until it has fully assimilated into it. He gives a fairly objective viewpoint, lots of dirt on some of the saints (specifically Aquinas and Augustine), and example after example of the effects of literacy on a culture. He gives us hope, too, by showing how with this new age of images - the media, advertising, television, computers, the flourishing arts - how it is only right that this century (meaning the 1900's) and the end of the last one (1800's) be the time for feminists and women's movements. Let's see....other titles... Anything by Joseph Campbell is awesome. I think that should be enough to start you off. :) Reading "feminist books" and "pagan literature" would also help to provide you with information, as well as other mythology books (don't have to be Greek or Roman). I have yet to read it, but I hear Starhawk's Spiral Dance is an amazing, well-researched book on the revitalization of the Goddess and Goddess religions. I have read her "Dreaming the Dark" and found that fascinating - on activism, raising feminine values within a patriarchy, and building group dynamics with little hierarchy...ok, I'll leave you alone now. :) - -Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:26:28 -0000 From: "Captain Scarlet" Subject: Bells for Her clip on BBC Radio 4 Just a quick tori sighting for you. Here I am reading the latest Precious Things, and the BBC Radio 4 drama/documentary series 'The Gateways' begins. Its set in the UK's first club for lesbians in the 1960s, and uses the intro to Bells for Her as its opening theme music - and again a couple of times later as backing music over the documentary interview clips that are cut in to this really cleverly structured drama. Later, near the end, the first few lines of the vocals are also included at the beginning of the central character's funeral. Unfortunately the BBC haven't put the program on their Listen Again website so far as I can see, though if you check www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 and select "Listen Again" it may turn up later on perhaps. Happy phantoms, Pete x ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:47:39 -0800 From: shaman@eskimo.com Subject: Re: tori "sighting" On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:16:01 -0500, you wrote: > >I just watched Birds of Prey which i had taped last night, and the episode >closed with A Sorta Fairytale. For some reason, tho, the WB didn't mention >the cd after the show, but they mentioned someone else's. Well, it was cool >hearing it on there anyway (whether it fit the moment or not, I'm still not >so sure). > >-Lisa That's probably because she's now with Epic just like Pearl Jam and many other bands. The only mention acts that AOL owns. P.S. - If you have any AOL stock you should dump it!! They are going into the toilet so bad that's it's already pulled the stocks value below what Time-Warner alone was worth before the merger of death. I expect it to drop another 20% in the near future since AOL will have a loosing quarter (they're already talking only about sales and never mention net since they're bleeding money) and the TW divisions are getting weak as well but are still making a positive cash flow. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V8 #47 ************************************