MANNLIST Digest 1279

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: OT/OAC: Sheryl Crow
	by "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
  2) RE: Petition: bring back Jon Brion
	by "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
  3) Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
	by "Frank Gargione" .happytown102@hotmail.com.
  4) RE: It's time to get back on track, folks.
	by "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
  5) Re: Jon Brion
	by "Michael Curry" .mike@currym.freeserve.co.uk.
  6) what i've been listening to
	by "R.Neugarten/S. Luger" .r.neugarten@planet.nl.
  7) OT: Suzanne Vega & Rupert Hine
	by RONALD Mc GREGOR .ronaldmacgregor@sympatico.ca.
  8) RE: OT: Tori, Ben Folds and other stuff I'm listening to
	by "Bachman, Michael" .Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com.
  9) RE: Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
	by "Bachman, Michael" .Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com.
 10) Re: what i've been listening to
	by lisa .sabrina1939@yahoo.com.
 11) OT: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)
	by "Gary G." .zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu.
 12) Re: Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
	by AWeiss4338@aol.com
 13) Re: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)
	by "Jill Weisenfeld" .jillpw@hotmail.com.
 14) Re: Petition: bring back Jon Brion
	by NadjaDee@aol.com
 15) Re: (OT) Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
	by NadjaDee@aol.com
 16) RE: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)
	by "Elion Caplan" .jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com.
 17) Re: OT: a little about me ('cause Lauren asked)
	by Carlos Gonzalia .gonzalia@yahoo.com.
 18) Re: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)
	by "Phil Ord" .philord@btinternet.com.
 19) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Is_anyone_going_to_the_Sigur_R=F3s_concert_in_NYC_tonigh?=
	by "Elion Caplan" .jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com.
 20) =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Is_anyone_going_to_the_Sigur_R=F3s_concert_in_NYC_toni?=
	by "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
 21) Re: Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
	by Ed Lynn .editor@epasq.com.
 22) =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Is_anyone_going_to_the_Sigur_R=F3s_concert_in_NYC_toni?=
	by "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
 23) Re: It's time to get back on track, folks.
	by Brwnshoe@aol.com
 24) Re: OT: Tori, Ben Folds and other stuff I'm listening to
	by "Michael H." .mikeh1966@yahoo.com.
 25) RE:_Is_anyone_going_to_the_Sigur_Rós_concert_in_NYC_tonight?
	by Kristina Wilcox .aimeenellysarah@yahoo.com.
 26) Oxygen performance
	by lisa .sabrina1939@yahoo.com.

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From: "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
To: "Aimee Mann list" .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: RE: OT/OAC: Sheryl Crow
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:00:40 -0400


I was at the Virgin Megastore at midnight on September 11th to buy "Love
And Theft" as soon as it went on sale and bought the European release of
The Strokes' "Is This It" at the same time.  When I got a chance to
listen to it a few days later, I have to say I did feel a bit
uncomfortable listening to the song "New York City Cops".

That said, under normal, non-terrorist situations I have absolutely no
faith in either the competence or integrity of the NYPD and feel that
their recording of the song was not only justified, but necessary.  Bad
situations can't change if people aren't allowed to speak out about them
and I've become very perturbed with the current popular attitude of
repressing individual opinions in favor of "solidarity".  The freedom to
disagree and to speak one's opinion is one of the great things about our
country and right now this aspect of our way of life is in as much
jeopardy as any other.

Elion

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
[mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] On Behalf Of Kristina Wilcox
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 5:29 PM
To: fte@smoe.org; mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: OT/OAC: Sheryl Crow


I got this from a Sheryl Crow mailing list:

Dave Matthews Band, Strokes, Sheryl Crow Rethink Their
Music

.snip.
Watching firefighters in New York moved Sheryl Crow so
much that she's reportedly rethinking some of the
lyrics she wrote for her upcoming album, which she
finished early this summer, according to the Los 
Angeles Times. One of the songs found her decrying a
dearth of heroes in the world - a complaint she said
she no longer feels justified making.

"I feel differently about all that now after what
we've seen," Crow told the newspaper, adding that she
may rewrite the song or drop it from the album. "My
home in New York City is right next to a fire station,
and I had a lot of good friends and familiar faces in
that 
department who are missing now."
.snip.

Full story:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/so/20010922/en/dave_matthews_band_strokes_s
heryl_crow_rethink_their_music_1.html



=====
~~ Kristina ~~
Californian/
Fumbler/
FurtadoHead/
Mannlister

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From: "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
To: "Aimee Mann list" .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: RE: Petition: bring back Jon Brion
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:05:20 -0400


How did this one go last time?  Something about Michael Penn being an
evil, sexist pig who's trying to steal his wife's fame and take it for
himself while crushing her spirit and leaving hair in the soap.  Down
with the male oppressor!

Elion

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
[mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] On Behalf Of SonicVI@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 8:50 PM
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: Petition: bring back Jon Brion



In a message dated 9/23/01 5:18:31 PM, BashirDr@aol.com writes:

.He is definitely the man behind the woman (and not Michael Penn, who 
.mooches off his spouse's fame (though I guess if he keeps her happy 
.that's a good thing...)).

That's stupid, Michael's no more famous now than he's ever been, and
he's 
still a fantastic songwriter.


Daniel

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From: "Frank Gargione" .happytown102@hotmail.com.
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:33:30 -0400

Hi Guys,

Ummm.... Who's Mary Lou Lord? I keep seeing her name associated with Lisa Loeb 
and Sam Phillips, so I feel like I should know, but I definitely don't.

Anyway, to stick to the current (or current as of yesterday? I never know....) 
thread, I've been listening to I'm With Stupid, having newly rediscovered the last 
song, which I'm obsessed with. I'm also all over the new and last Jude CDs, How I 
Do? by Res (this new R&B girl), the lastest Semisonic album, the Lemonheads and 
Freedy Johnston (for whatever reason), Shea Seger, The Apples in Stereo, and R.E.M.'s 
Automatic For the People.

Jill Sobule's on Conan O'Brien tomorrow! And, for anyone in the Boston area, free 
Juliana Hatfield show at Fanueil Hall this Friday at noon!

take care,
Frank

P.S.- How old is 20 years younger than Bjork?

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From: "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
To: .zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu.
Cc: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu., .sonichawk@juno.com., .jillpw@hotmail.com.,
        .sharbear@epix.net.
Subject: RE: It's time to get back on track, folks.
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 01:25:59 -0400

I've been thinking about it and I can't accept this.  The recent
terrorist attacks have affected and will continue to affect every aspect
of our lives for a long time.  This will include art and music.  The
Mannlist is a community of people from all over the world brought
together by the fact that they are Aimee Mann fans and I don't believe
that one person among us, moderator or not, has the right to be the sole
judge of what is or isn't an acceptable topic of discussion.  The time
that all of spend reading and posting messages is time that we have
chosen to devote to this community, and I don't think anything that any
one of us feels is important to share with the rest of the group should
be considered invalid.

Gary, at the very least you should have asked for a vote on the matter.
This fan club belongs to all of us.

I'm sending this e-mail to a few of you personally, since I assume it
will not be allowed onto the list.

Elion

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
[mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] On Behalf Of Gary G.
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:00 PM
To: Mannlist
Subject: It's time to get back on track, folks.


To all Mannlisters:

I am aware that many Mannlist postings since the WTC incident have been
off subject and/or inflammatory.  I did not intervene because (1) most
of these incidents usually wear themselves out over two or three days
and (2) a large number of members were connected to persons in NYC and I
wanted to keep this forum open for them to express their
anger/sorrow/whatever.

But now it's time to get back on track with respect to the subject
matter of this list: Aimee Mann and company.

At the risk of being called a censor, I am setting Mannlist to moderated
mode for a while.  "A while" will be a length of time to be determined,
depending on how posters behave.  Please, please, please, drop the
non-music-related things and talk about Aimee and company, as well as
non-Aimee music things.  To put it more directly, any messages that
aren't reasonably related to Aimee or music in general will not be
allowed onto the listserver.

Flame me if you wish, but the decision has been made and I am sticking
with it--at least until things calm down.  As always, thanks to all of
you who contribute so much to Mannlist.

Regards,
Gary G.

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From: "Michael Curry" .mike@currym.freeserve.co.uk.
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: Re: Jon Brion
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 07:55:21 +0100

Sure, Aimee can choose who produces anything she does.

I would be much happier if messrs Brion, Judge, and MacCarroll, who all =
did something on Bachelor No.2, could drag Jason Falkner back into the =
fold for another Grays album. Still loving Ro Sham Bo after all these =
years.


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From: "R.Neugarten/S. Luger" .r.neugarten@planet.nl.
To: "mannlist" .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: what i've been listening to
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:04:14 +0200


PJ Harvey's Stories from the City was on my CD player when I heard about =
the WTC and Pentagon disaster, and I've found I've returned to it =
repeatedly ever since. Also: The Strokes (great fun), the brilliant new =
Catatonia album, The Pernice Brothers' The World Won't End (a consoling =
title and great sundrenched pop songs), both Hawksley Workman CD's (this =
guy is a major find!) and Springsteen's Born to Run. By the way, has =
anyone ever noticed there's an hommage to Born to Run in Aimee's I've =
Had It? Just after she sings 'and Dan came down from Jersey', four =
unmistakable notes from the guitar riff from BTR are played, by a synth =
I guess. A mindblowing moment for a lifelong Bruce- and Aimee-fan like =
me. Has Aimee ever acknowledged this? Somehow I can't imagine her as a =
huge Springsteen fan.

Robert

(Now playing The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan)

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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:42:53 -0500
From: RONALD Mc GREGOR .ronaldmacgregor@sympatico.ca.
To: MANNLIST .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: OT: Suzanne Vega & Rupert Hine

Rupert Hine the producer of SIRAG has a web site:
in the "news" section of his web site he talks a
bit about SV and the new album. He's got the first
cover (the rejected one?) of the new album on
display.

 http://www.ruperthine.com/

ron

--
Ronald Mc Gregor
-------------------
Louise Brooks was the complete American.
Louise Brooks: Femme inaccessible
http://homepage.mac.com/louisebrooks/index.html

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From: "Bachman, Michael" .Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com.
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: RE: OT: Tori, Ben Folds and other stuff I'm listening to
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:55:49 -0400



  What I have been listening to latey:

   Continental Drifters, Sam Phillips "The Fan Dance", The Corrs,
  Echo and the Bunneyman "Porcupine", Sarah Harmer, Mary Lou Lord,
  Marshall Crenshaw and some Robyn Hitchcock. The Go-Betweens "16
  Lovers Lane" and "Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express"

  I also have been listening to 1950's era Female Jazz singers:
 June Christy and Jeri Southern. Also on the Jazz side, but not
 female and not a singer, Dexter Gordon "Our Man in Paris", "Ballads"
 and "Go". John Coltrane "The Ultimate Blue Train".

  I just saw Dwight Yoakam, so I have listening to his first 5 cd's. 
 Also Gillian Welch "Time (The Revelator)", Sara Evans "Born to Fly"
 Allison Moorer "The Hardest Part" on the country side.

 Michael Bachman

  

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From: "Bachman, Michael" .Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com.
To: "'happytown102@hotmail.com'" .happytown102@hotmail.com.,
        mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: RE: Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:44:09 -0400

  Frank Gargion wrote : 


. Hi Guys,
. Ummm....  Who's Mary Lou Lord?  I keep seeing her name associated with
Lisa Loeb and Sam Phillips, so I feel like I . should know, but I definitely
don't.

 
Mary Lou Lord is from the Olympia, WA area on the Kill Rock Stars label. I
would associate her more with
Shawn Colvin, who is her hero. She was rumored to have had a fling with Kurt
Cobain, and Courtney Love
and Mary Lou had a war of words years back about it.  I listen a lot to CBC
Radio, and was introduced to
her music by David Wisdom, one of the great DJ's of all time!  Catch David
on his new show Radio On, on
CBC Radio midnight Saturday to 4:00 AM Saturday and midnight Sunday to 4:00
AM Monday.
 
Michael B.

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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:13:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: lisa .sabrina1939@yahoo.com.
Subject: Re: what i've been listening to
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu


 i've been listening to my 2 new aimee recordings, bachelor no.2, the loud 
family's plants & birds & rocks & things, stories from the city, resigned 
(especially small black box). oh and disco.
lisa (np the wonder boys sntk)
 "R.Neugarten/S. Luger" .r.neugarten@planet.nl. wrote: PJ Harvey's Stories from 
the City was on my CD player when I heard about the WTC and Pentagon disaster, 
and I've found I've returned to it repeatedly ever since. Also: The Strokes 
(great fun), the brilliant new Catatonia album, The Pernice Brothers' The World 
Won't End (a consoling title and great sundrenched pop songs), both Hawksley 
Workman CD's (this guy is a major find!) and Springsteen's Born to Run. By the 
way, has anyone ever noticed there's an hommage to Born to Run in Aimee's I've 
Had It? Just after she sings 'and Dan came down from Jersey', four unmistakable 
notes from the guitar riff from BTR are played, by a synth I guess. A mindblowing 
moment for a lifelong Bruce- and Aimee-fan like me. Has Aimee ever acknowledged 
this? Somehow I can't imagine her as a huge Springsteen fan. Robert (Now playing 
The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan)


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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:04:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gary G." .zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu.
To: Mannlist .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: OT: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)

From: "Elion Caplan" .jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com.
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: Free-For-All
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:38:26 -0400

Is Michael Penn's "Free-For-All" any good?  I almost bought a copy of it the
other day, but the friend I was with told me that aside from "Long Way Down"
the rest of the album is sub-par for him.  Not being in the most cashly (I
made this word up.  Isn't it useful?) situtation, I decided to pass until I
got some other opinions.

Elion



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From: AWeiss4338@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:51:48 EDT
Subject: Re: Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
To: Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com, happytown102@hotmail.com,
        mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu

In a message dated 9/24/01 10:50:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com writes:


. . Hi Guys,
. . Ummm....  Who's Mary Lou Lord?  I keep seeing her name associated with 
. Lisa Loeb and Sam Phillips, so I feel like I . should know, but I 
. definitely don't.
. 
.  
. Mary Lou Lord is from the Olympia, WA area on the Kill Rock Stars label. I 
. would associate her more with
. Shawn Colvin, who is her hero. She was rumored to have had a fling with 
. Kurt Cobain, and Courtney Love
. and Mary Lou had a war of words years back about it.  I listen a lot to CBC 
. Radio, and was introduced to
. her music by David Wisdom, one of the great DJ's of all time!  Catch David 
. on his new show Radio On, on
. CBC Radio midnight Saturday to 4:00 AM Saturday and midnight Sunday to 4:00 
. AM Monday.
.  
. 

Mary Lou is actually from Boston. You can find her there, almost any day of 
the week busking on the street, because for now, that's what she is. It's 
something I've always wanted to do was go to Boston and here her play. Find 
more out by subscribing to jinglejangle@smoe.org, her mailing list.
Andrea


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From: "Jill Weisenfeld" .jillpw@hotmail.com.
To: "Gary Green" .zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu.,
        "mannlist" .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: Re: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:56:37 -0400

Elion asked: "Is Michael Penn's "Free-For-All" any good? " =20

It took me longer to get into it than MP's other albums, but it has grown=
 on me with each listen.  Its definitely worth buying. =20

Jill 

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From: NadjaDee@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:06:23 EDT
Subject: Re: Petition: bring back Jon Brion
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.

I do agree that whatever Jon Brion touches is graced with gold (or should we 
say platinum quality), however it seems that after 2 albums with Jon at the 
producer wheel maybe it was simply not Aimee's choice to have him produce.

I was able to talk to Eleni Mandell when she was up in Seattle, and I asked 
her about going from Jon Brion producing her first album "Wishbone" to Brian 
Kehew producing her second one, "Thrill" ; her response was, "Yes, it was nice 
to get away from all the very produced organ sounds."

Please understand, Im not saying that I agreed with her, in fact I expected 
her to say something to the opposite affect, such as "Yes, I really did miss 
having Jon on this one, but he was tied up with other obligations...."
So, it shocked me when she said it was her decision to not go with Jon.  

Add to that Rufus Wainwright's second album "Poses" when compared with his 
first self titled debut, I personally prefer the newer one which Jon did not 
produce.  

Fiona Apple's 2nd album however is great and Jon was behind that one.  Ive seen 
what Jon can do when coupled with a talent like Fiona Apple and Aimee Mann. (The 
guitar solo in the Wallflowers One Headlight, Eel's, Jonatha Brooke, and the list 
goes on)   like Mary Lou Lord once said, "He goes off and does something that 
everyone is thinking what's he doing?" and then when he adds it to the song, its 
really brilliant.

So, while I agree that I personally enjoy hearing Jon's solos and added flourishes,
I do know that artists collaborating are about more than just the magic of the 
recording, but like a band, it's about how personalities get along.  

Sometimes it just nice to change it up a bit and see what you get.

Just to clarify, Im not disagreeing with anyone that it would be nice to have 
Jon back producing (I love anything he touches) but I dont know if getting Aimee 
a list of a thousand signatures is going to do anything.  I trust her judgement 
completely.

And just to avoid any flames here, remember this is simply one opinion which 
belongs to me. (Someone now say, Nadja you ignorant slut...just kidding)

(Besides if anyone does get upset at this post, Paul Barras will beat you up...hehe)

Love and Chocolate Kisses
Nadja Tanaka
Seattle, WA

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From: NadjaDee@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:36:54 EDT
Subject: Re: (OT) Mary Lou Lord & stuff...
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.

Frank,
   Oh my goodness, who is Mary Lou Lord?  

    Great question and here's what I can personally tell  you. (Someone please 
correct me if I get the facts wrong) Mary Lou Lord first hit the scene associated 
with the Kill Rock Stars Olympia WA label.  She released a cd called "Mary Lou Lord, 
Kill Rock Stars" (where Juliana Hatfield sang backup vocals) .  It was mostly acoustic 
really folky sounding.  She continued to release smaller EP five song things, like 
"Martian Saints" where she covered songs by Nick Soloman of the Bevis Frond, Pete 
Droge and Elliot Smith.  (I recommend that EP for a taste of MLL).  In 1998 she was 
picked up by the Sony WORK label and released "Got No Shadow" which Jon Brion plays 
on.  

Whats amazing about Mary Lou is that she first picked up a guitar busking in the 
Boston subway stations.  She was friends with Shawn Colvin (before she got really 
popular) and made it her personal goal to have the public know who Shawn Colvin 
was since she knew Shawn was an amazing songwriter.  The really humorous thing is 
that AFTER Mary Lou was signed to the huge Work label, she continued and continues 
to play the subway.  She says it keeps her in touch with the people and a smile 
there is a real reaction, and so on.

Mary Lou is just super nice, really down to earth, and is the kind of girl who 
remembers you even if you met her briefly.  I can basically say she is a friend 
because she is that sincere a person and we hang out when she comes to Seattle. 

She is now really into Rockabilly because she and Kevin Patey from the Raging 
Teens have a little girl name Annabelle.
(The Raging Teens are an amazing band to see also)

Hope that helps.  You should really give Mary Lou Lord a listen, you may end up 
busking on the street! 

Nadja Tanaka
Seattle, WA



In a message dated Mon, 24 Sep 2001  9:26:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
"Frank Gargione" .happytown102@hotmail.com. writes:

. 
. 
. 
. Hi Guys,
. 
. Ummm.... Who's Mary Lou Lord? I keep seeing her name associated with Lisa 
Loeb and Sam Phillips, so I feel like I should know, but I definitely don't.
. 
. 
. Anyway, to stick to the current (or current as of yesterday? I never know....) 
thread, I've been listening to I'm With Stupid, having newly rediscovered the last 
song, which I'm obsessed with. I'm also all over the new and last Jude CDs, How I 
Do? by Res (this new R&B girl), the lastest Semisonic album, the Lemonheads and 
Freedy Johnston (for whatever reason), Shea Seger, The Apples in Stereo, and 
R.E.M.'s Automatic For the People.
. 
. Jill Sobule's on Conan O'Brien tomorrow! And, for anyone in the Boston area, 
free Juliana Hatfield show at Fanueil Hall this Friday at noon!
. 
. 
. take care,
. Frank
. 
. P.S.- How old is 20 years younger than Bjork?


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From: "Elion Caplan" .jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com.
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: RE: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:32:25 -0400

It was used and only $7 so I guess I'll pick it up.  Although maybe I can
get my friend to give me his copy, since he didn't like it.  Gotta save
money to pay the Ticketmaster "convenience charges" tacked onto all the
concert tickets I buy.

Elion
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
[mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Jill Weisenfeld
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 1:57 PM
  To: Gary Green; mannlist
  Subject: Re: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)


  Elion asked: "Is Michael Penn's "Free-For-All" any good? "

  It took me longer to get into it than MP's other albums, but it has grown
on me with each listen.  Its definitely worth buying.

  Jill

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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:01:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Gonzalia .gonzalia@yahoo.com.
Subject: Re: OT: a little about me ('cause Lauren asked)
To: ronya@iobox.fi, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu

--- Marja Ruuska .ronya@iobox.fi. wrote:
. [...]
. fan ever since last christmas - that's when I heard her first. They don't
. sell "I'm with Stupid" here, so I'm gonna order it from the States... if I
. can get enough money..

Hi Marja,

You might want to try http://www.bol.com, they have a branch in your country.
I usually order anything I can't find on the local stores through them, it's
a good online postorder service and prices are usually ok. Hope this helps.

Carlos

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From: "Phil Ord" .philord@btinternet.com.
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: Re: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:34:52 -0700


----- Original Message -----
From: Jill Weisenfeld .jillpw@hotmail.com.
To: Gary Green .zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu.; mannlist
.mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Free-For-All (msg from Elion Caplan, forwarded)


.Elion asked: "Is Michael Penn's "Free-For-All" any good? "

.It took me longer to get into it than MP's other albums, but it has grown
on me with each listen.  Its definitely .worth buying.

.Jill Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download :
http://explorer.msn.com

I echo that view quite a bit. Free For All has got a very layered sound
(which owes alot to Patrick Warren's keyboards), and it took me an awful
long time to fully appreciate it, but once I did I was able to then
recognise it for being the masterpiece that it really is! I appreciate all
four MP albums, but that one still remains my real favourite!!

Around the time of its release there was a very perceptive review of the
album in the now defunct UK magazine, Hearsay, which I'd love to send if I
still had it.

Phil.

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From: "Elion Caplan" .jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com.
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Is_anyone_going_to_the_Sigur_R=F3s_concert_in_NYC_tonigh?=
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:38:53 -0400

On a whim, I bought a ticket for the Sigur Rós concert at the Beacon Theater
tonight.  Is anyone else here going?

Elion

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From: "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Is_anyone_going_to_the_Sigur_R=F3s_concert_in_NYC_toni?=
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:28:12 -0400

Will do.  I'm mainly going because I want to see if they are human beings or
alien fetus people.  I'm a slave to morbid curiosity.

Elion

-----Original Message-----
From: Serenity Now [mailto:bigsean62@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 4:21 PM
To: jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Is anyone going to the Sigur Rós concert in NYC tonight?


I'm going to Sigor Ros Oct 5 & 6...so let me know what to expect from
the show...Sean

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
~ Benjamin Franklin



----Original Message Follows----
From: "Elion Caplan" .jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com.
Reply-To: jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: Is anyone going to the Sigur Rós concert in NYC tonight?
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:38:53 -0400

On a whim, I bought a ticket for the Sigur Rós concert at the Beacon Theater
tonight.  Is anyone else here going?

Elion


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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:17:36 -0400
To: AWeiss4338@aol.com, Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com,
        happytown102@hotmail.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu
From: Ed Lynn .editor@epasq.com.
Subject: Re: Mary Lou Lord & stuff...

At 01:51 PM 9/24/01, AWeiss4338@aol.com wrote:
.In a message dated 9/24/01 10:50:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
.Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com writes:
.
.
.. . Hi Guys,
.. . Ummm....  Who's Mary Lou Lord?  I keep seeing her name associated with 
.. Lisa Loeb and Sam Phillips, so I feel like I . should know, but I 
.. definitely don't.
..
..
..Mary Lou Lord is from the Olympia, WA area on the Kill Rock Stars label. 
..I would associate her more with
..Shawn Colvin, who is her hero. She was rumored to have had a fling with 
..Kurt Cobain, and Courtney Love
..and Mary Lou had a war of words years back about it.  I listen a lot to 
..CBC Radio, and was introduced to
..her music by David Wisdom, one of the great DJ's of all time!  Catch 
..David on his new show Radio On, on
..CBC Radio midnight Saturday to 4:00 AM Saturday and midnight Sunday to 
..4:00 AM Monday.
.
.
.Mary Lou is actually from Boston. You can find her there, almost any day 
.of the week busking on the street, because for now, that's what she is. 
.It's something I've always wanted to do was go to Boston and here her 
.play. Find more out by subscribing to jinglejangle@smoe.org, her mailing list.
.Andrea

FYI: The address to subscribe to is actually Majordomo@smoe.org, with the 
phrase "subscribe jinglejangle" in the body.

ed.

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From: "Elion Caplan" .elion@bigfoot.com.
To: .mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu.
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Is_anyone_going_to_the_Sigur_R=F3s_concert_in_NYC_toni?=
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:25:41 -0400

No, I don't like Sugar Ray.  Sigur Rós are an Icelandic ambient/art-rock
type band.  They're the biggest thing in Iceland right now.  I do not know
how to pronounce their name.

Elion
  -----Original Message-----
  From: RONALD Mc GREGOR [mailto:ronaldmacgregor@sympatico.ca]
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:23 PM
  To: jabberwocknyc@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: Is anyone going to the Sigur Rós concert in NYC tonight?


  You're not talking about Sugar Ray no?
  ronald

  Elion Caplan wrote:

    On a whim, I bought a ticket for the Sigur Rós concert at the Beacon
Theater
    tonight.  Is anyone else here going?
    Elion

  --
  Ronald Mc Gregor
  -------------------
  Louise Brooks was the complete American.
  Louise Brooks: Femme inaccessible
  http://homepage.mac.com/louisebrooks/index.html

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From: Brwnshoe@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:19:43 EDT
Subject: Re: It's time to get back on track, folks.
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu

I have to go along with Elion on this one. I didn't see a lot of inflamatory 
messages posted, and it's not exactly like Aimee is particulary active right 
now.

 The WTC, Pentagon and Pa. events are probably the most significant news 
stories of our lives. It would not have hurt anyone to allow Mannlisters to 
express their feelings and emotions, and God knows in the past the Mannlist 
has gotten off topic on issues far more trivial without  causing the list to 
be set to the moderated mode.

Steve

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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:07:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Michael H." .mikeh1966@yahoo.com.
Subject: Re: OT: Tori, Ben Folds and other stuff I'm listening to
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu

I thought I'd chime in on "the stuff I'm listening to"
thread even though I kind of feel alienated by music
lately. The only album that I've gotten this year that
really makes me happy over and over again is Depeche
Mode's "Exciter". I think Dave Gahan's voice is the
epitome of coolness. Speaking of cool, Everything But
the Girl's "Back to Mine" is a super chillout CD with
a great mix of tunes from artists as diverse as Beth
Orton, Slick Rick, Donnie Hathaway, and the Roots. But
I'm into chillout stuff a lot lately...mostly mood and
atomosphere and as few lyrics as possible...I got the
new Orbital CD last week and its very good with a cool
cameo by David Gray on one track and Tool on
another...Here's the rest of the stuff I've been
listening to...

Prince - Sign of the Times
Til Tuesday - Voices Carry (pulled it out of the
closet after a number of years..still sounds cheezy
but in a good way..it IS Aimee anyhow)
Badly Drawn Boy - Hour of Bewilderbeast
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
Le Tigre
Stevie Nicks - Trouble in Shangri La (I had forgotten
how much I love her voice)

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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:31:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kristina Wilcox .aimeenellysarah@yahoo.com.
Subject: RE:_Is_anyone_going_to_the_Sigur_Rós_concert_in_NYC_tonight?
To: elion@bigfoot.com, mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu

--- Elion Caplan .elion@bigfoot.com. wrote:
. Sigur Rós are an Icelandic ambient/art-rock
. type band.  They're the biggest thing in Iceland
. right now.  I do not know how to pronounce their    
. name.

It's "Sigger Rose". I read a great article about them
over the weekend, but I can't remember what magazine
it was in. :-( Anyway, that's the name of the singer's
younger sister. 



=====
~~ Kristina ~~
Californian/
Fumbler/
FurtadoHead/
Mannlister

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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:04:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: lisa .sabrina1939@yahoo.com.
Subject: Oxygen performance
To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu


here's aimee doing wise up http://trackers.oxygen.com/celebsalon/performances/

lisa

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