MANNLIST Digest 688 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) New tour dates? by "Frank Yang" [f2yang@hotmail.com] 2) RE: Aimee in the new Rolling Stone! by "Bachman, Michael" [Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com] 3) Re: Keeper CDs by "Paul Barras" [sonichawk@hotmail.com] 4) S.F. 1/25 set list by Achilles Gaubert [achilles@dm.net] 5) Re: Aimee Mann in the new Rolling Stone! by "Lex Marks"[lex@inch.com] 6) Re: OT Keeper CDs by Jim [103125.1703@compuserve.com] 7) keeper cd's by Craig King [cking4h@yahoo.com] 8) Column on Aimee Mann by Sidney Robert Stone [102573.2640@compuserve.com] 9) RE: OT Keeper CDs by "Steven E. Alter" [shteevea@earthlink.net] 10) ALEXANDRIA help by jimmy [draper@umich.edu] 11) Re: Aimee in the new Rolling Stone! by Achilles Gaubert [achilles@dm.net] 12) Magnolia (Academy Screener DVD) Review by "Drew Harrington" [drewh@bitwise.com] 13) Re: the frogs by SHWIM2@aol.com 14) RE: OT Keeper CDs by "Steven E. Alter" [shteevea@earthlink.net] 15) Re: OT: Shelby Lynne by Danceland7@aol.com 16) Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by "Mark Wright" [yuma77@hotmail.com] 17) Re: OT: Shelby Lynne by ElizaS33@aol.com 18) Re: Keeper Cd's... by Danceland7@aol.com 19) Re: Keeper CDs by Danceland7@aol.com 20) Re: TT vs. Solo by ElizaS33@aol.com 21) RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by "Bachman, Michael" [Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com] 22) Re: OT: Shelby Lynne by "Daniel P. Melvold" [lovnros@idt.net] 23) RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by "Steven E. Alter" [shteevea@earthlink.net] 24) RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by "Mark Wright" [yuma77@hotmail.com] 25) Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by "Howard Semones" [soanim8ed@rmi.net] 26) Re: Aimee Live! from Sundance tonight by Deb [indigo@mindspring.com] 27) RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by "Cameron Smith" [cam@extraneous.demon.co.uk] 28) Re: Aimee in the new Rolling Stone! by Beth Bachtold [bachtold@beta.usfca.edu] 29) The "keepers" thread by MnnyMoNHak@aol.com 30) Aimee Mann by "John Boyd" [accutron2000@hotmail.com] 31) RE: The "keepers" thread by "Steven E. Alter" [shteevea@earthlink.net] 32) Re: The "keepers" thread by Zabadak900@aol.com 33) RE: The "keepers" thread by Dominic Mah [Dominic@askjeeves.com] 34) RE: The "keepers" thread by ElizaS33@aol.com 35) More tour dates! (well, kinda...) by ElizaS33@aol.com 36) Re: The "keepers" thread by GaryLBSP@aol.com 37) RE: The "keepers" thread by Beth Bachtold [bachtold@beta.usfca.edu] 38) Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by Brwnshoe@aol.com 39) Aimee Mann Stock by Brwnshoe@aol.com 40) Re: Aimee Mann Stock by LoopyJF@cs.com 41) Re: The "keepers" thread by Miz Phair [mannphan@yahoo.com] 42) Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by AWeiss4338@aol.com 43) Re: The "keepers" thread by MnnyMoNHak@aol.com 44) B#2 track sequence and comments on new songs by Mike Benning [musosf@yahoo.com] 45) Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by "Mark Wright" [yuma77@hotmail.com] 46) "Artists Who Are Too Lame or Obscure to Have Their Own List" List? by Salt5@aol.com 47) Re: The "keepers" thread by "Chris Beckwith" [beckwith@ime.net] 48) Re: "Artists Who Are Too Lame or Obscure to Have Their Own List" List? by LoopyJF@cs.com 49) Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by AWeiss4338@aol.com 50) Re: Aimee Mann by "Gary G." [zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu] 51) Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo by Brwnshoe@aol.com 52) Re: The "keepers" thread by Joe [bokomaru42@the-spa.com] 53) Aimee Videos? by Brwnshoe@aol.com 54) Re: Keeper CDs by Spencer Lewis [skilroy@earthlink.net] 55) Re: S.F. 1/25 set list by "Sean O'Brien" [seanobrn@worldnet.att.net] ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000128133506.57325.qmail@hotmail.com] From: "Frank Yang" [f2yang@hotmail.com] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: New tour dates? Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:35:06 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi, career lurker here popping up to ask if anyone has info on more tour dates after the NYC shows? I'm asking cause in this week's Now (Toronto's entertainment weekly rag), there's an ad in the concerts section declaring, "Aimee Mann (Featureed on the Magnolia soundtrack) coming soon!". this implies to me that Aimee Mann is coming soon to toronto... a leap, but I'm comfortable with my conclusions. So does anyone have an inside scoop as to further tour dates? I'd imagine it'd be in the next month or so, by the end of February. And I'm strictly an Aimee Fan, not crazy 'bout the Til Tuesday stuff, though I haven't heard all of it. Back to lurk mode... Frank ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B102CBA6F9@hqmail01.frc.com] From: "Bachman, Michael" [Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com] To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: RE: Aimee in the new Rolling Stone! Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:45:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Robyn Hitchcock is compared with Syd Barrett. Also, Kate Bush was called the female Peter Gabriel in the 80's. You can make a case for Tom Petty being compared to Roger McGuinn of The Byrds. However, sometimes I think you can point to a groundbreaker artist spreading seeds, something is going to pop up that looks a lot like the earlier model. Michael -----Original Message----- From: ElizaS33@aol.com [mailto:ElizaS33@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:11 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee in the new Rolling Stone! ]]] It's like comparing Bruce Springsteen to Bob Seeger, I mean; maybe there's ] something there, but why bother comparing the two? ] Or Costello to Bob Dylan or Tom Waits--this just does not happen for men. Sure it does! Or else we wouldn't need the word "Beatlesque." Elizabeth ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000128150101.99520.qmail@hotmail.com] From: "Paul Barras" [sonichawk@hotmail.com] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Keeper CDs Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:01:00 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed All solo Aimee Mann Til Tuesday Everything's Different Now All 3 Michael Penn CDs R.E.M. AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE Erasure I SAY I SAY Toni Childs UNION ]From: Brwnshoe@aol.com ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]CC: Brwnshoe@aol.com ]Subject: Re: Keeper CDs ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 02:22:50 EST ] ]How could I have left off my list: ] ]"Plastic Ono Band"- John Lennon (JL's first solo, and by far the best solo ]Beatle album of all time) ] ]And thanks Terry, the 60's Bob Dylan WAS an awesome talent, my favorite: ] ]"Blonde on Blonde" ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [3891B9CE.9DC4C2AE@dm.net] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:46:22 -0800 From: Achilles Gaubert [achilles@dm.net] MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann Mail List [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: S.F. 1/25 set list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you'd like the set list for the Jan 25 S.F. show @ Bimbo's, send me an email and I'll get it to you this afternoon (PST). Achilles Gaubert ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: "Lex Marks"[lex@inch.com] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:49:22 +500 Subject: Re: Aimee Mann in the new Rolling Stone! Message-id: [3891c892.e6ab.0@inch.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello to all. Thanks for your responses to my post about musical comparisons. Please forgive my sounding so dogmatic; I should know better. I guess I personally just don't like when people (artists, whatever; it happens to me personally) are compared to eachother. It's a pet peeve of mine; I'm not sure why it bugs me so much--but it just does. I guess I feel that sometimes people have a need to compare things to stuff they already know, as opposed to letting artists stand on their own merits. IMO, it makes people more comfortable to make those comparisons. But in some instances I'm sure those comparisons are totally valid. I do think that it occurs more often with female than male artists--but it's a foolish statement to say that it does not occur across the board. Thanks again to all of you for sharing your opinions, Lex ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:50:46 -0500 From: Jim [103125.1703@compuserve.com] Subject: Re: OT Keeper CDs To: "INTERNET:mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Message-ID: [200001281151_MC2-95A4-BCD1@compuserve.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would add: Bruce Springsteen's Tunnel of Love Crowded House's Together Alone Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend Grant Lee Buffalo's Mighty Joe Moon 10.000 Maniacs' Our Time in Eden ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000128164250.13502.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:42:50 -0800 (PST) From: Craig King [cking4h@yahoo.com] Subject: keeper cd's To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everyone! Forst time poster here. I just recently got into Aimee Mann as a result of the discussious of all of the fine people on the Liz Phair mailing list. So, I thought I'd join in on this poll. What can I say, I'm a sucker for polls. Here are the albums that I couldn't do without in no particular order: Aimee Mann - "I'm With Stupid" ALL Stone Temple Pilots albums ALL Liz Phair albums The Doors - "Strange Days" Tom Petty - "Long After Dark" Metallica - "Ride The Lightning" Megadeth - "Countdown To Extinction" Led Zeppelin - "Houses of the Holy" Alice In Chains - "Jar of Flies" Scott Weiland - "12 Bar Blues" Craig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:09:43 -0500 From: Sidney Robert Stone [102573.2640@compuserve.com] Subject: Column on Aimee Mann To: "INTERNET:mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu" [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Message-ID: [200001281209_MC2-96B4-B9E5@compuserve.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There is a nice piece in the Orange County Register on Aimee today. Ben Wener's column "Gems" looks at forgotten and underrated albums every Friday. This week he writes about "Everything Is Different Now". Nice article that covers Aimee's transitional period between the end of Til Tuesday and the start of her solo career. It should be online now at ocregister.com. ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: "Steven E. Alter" [shteevea@earthlink.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: RE: OT Keeper CDs Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:18:53 -0800 Message-ID: [LNBBLFHDDFKNPDAEGBKNKEDGCBAA.shteevea@earthlink.net] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howsabout piling these onto the list: Freedy Johnston CAN YOU FLY Squeeze ARGYBARGY Prefab Sprout STEVE MC QUEEN Rolling Stones STICKY FINGERS Bob Dylan BLOOD ON THE TRACKS Marshall Crenshaw MARSHALL CRENSHAW Richard & Linda Thompson SHOOT OUT THE LIGHTS Lou Reed NEW YORK Bruce Springsteen DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN Tonio K. LIFE IN THE FOODCHAIN X MORE FUN IN THE NEW WORLD Todd Rundgren BACK TO THE BARS Stevie Wonder SONGS IN THE KEY OF LIFE Sam Phillips THE INDESCRIBABLE WOW Richard Buckner SINCE The Carpenters SINGLES Tom Waits RAIN DOGS Talking Heads SPEAKING IN TONGUES Loudon Wainwright III THERAPY Hey, I think this desert island wouldn't be so bad! Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 8:51 AM To: INTERNET:mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT Keeper CDs I would add: Bruce Springsteen's Tunnel of Love Crowded House's Together Alone Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend Grant Lee Buffalo's Mighty Joe Moon 10.000 Maniacs' Our Time in Eden ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:35:00 -0500 (EST) From: jimmy [draper@umich.edu] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: ALEXANDRIA help Message-ID: [Pine.SOL.4.10.10001281232100.10656-100000@galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can someone email me privately regarding the supposedly 2nd show added in Alexandria? TM says it went on sale 1/5 (the first is sold out), but when my friend called, it says it can't sell tix. does this show even exist? thanksxjimmy ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [3891D3F7.5C2C2E33@dm.net] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:38:00 -0800 From: Achilles Gaubert [achilles@dm.net] MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aimee Mann Mail List [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: Re: Aimee in the new Rolling Stone! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "most often, it's just a way for reviewers to introduce someone to people who might not know her. Of course those that DO know of and love her will take umbrage - no matter what the comparison." You took the words right outta my mouth (fingers? keyboard?). Comparisons -even when considered somewhat inaccurate by those-in-the-know, are necessary to provide a basis for understanding. Some of those comparisons mentioned aren't necessarily the best examples, but then the fact that Aimee did a flawless impression of Ethel Merman at the end of "No Myth" Tuesday night doesn't mean that an accurate comparison is the best. ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: SHWIM2@aol.com Message-ID: [a3.1817f07.25c33c60@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:39:28 EST Subject: Re: the frogs To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey- well i know the frog thing has everyone puzzled, but reading PTA's explanation has cleared everything up, the whole movie, beginning with the random coincidences, and continuing with all of the tortured children and all of the sad predicaments the charcaters seemed to find themsleves inall led up this moment, which everyone has experieneced when suddenly life just doesn't make sense, and anything, even if someone said frogs were flying from the sky would be believable. "You get to a point in your life, and shit is happening, and everything's out of your control,m and suddenly, a rain of frogs just makes sense. you're staring at a doctor who's telling you something is wrong, and while we know what it is , we have no way of fixing it. and you just go, so what you're telling me, basically, is that its rainig frogs from the sky" PTA greg ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: "Steven E. Alter" [shteevea@earthlink.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: RE: OT Keeper CDs Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:41:30 -0800 Message-ID: [LNBBLFHDDFKNPDAEGBKNCEDICBAA.shteevea@earthlink.net] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I left out two musts: Jules Shear THE GREAT PUZZLE Lucinda Williams LUCINDA WILLIAMS -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 8:51 AM To: INTERNET:mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: OT Keeper CDs I would add: Bruce Springsteen's Tunnel of Love Crowded House's Together Alone Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend Grant Lee Buffalo's Mighty Joe Moon 10.000 Maniacs' Our Time in Eden ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Danceland7@aol.com Message-ID: [49.d336f1.25c35076@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:05:10 EST Subject: Re: OT: Shelby Lynne To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got a copy of the new Shelby Lynn. I am anxious to go home and listen to it. That's what's great abou this list, being exposed to new music. I have afew recommendations...one is NAN VERNON's MANTA RAY album from 1996. She was "discovered" by Dave Stewart during the Spiritual Cowboy days and she released only one album (because noone bought it but me) but it's great. It's still in print and I know Tower Records carries it in NYC and online. ITS GREAT] Jay ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000128200705.88013.qmail@hotmail.com] From: "Mark Wright" [yuma77@hotmail.com] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:07:05 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Love - Forever Changes Dream Syndicate - The Day Before Wine & Roses Byrds - Notorious Byrd Brothers Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams Sam Phillips - The Turning Linton Kwesi Johnson - Forces of Victory Mark Heard - Satelite Sky ]From: "Terry Ingalls" [tingalls@coastalnet.com] ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] ]Subject: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:26:06 -0500 ] ]Regarding keeper CDs: ] ]Aimee Mann - IWS, Whatever ]All Beatles ]The first 5 Elvis Costello CDs ]1st 3 Graham Parker CDs ]Nearly all of Dylan's 60s recordings, 70s Blood on the Tracks, 80s Infidels ]and Oh Mercy ]Richard Thompson - Rumour and Sigh ]Tori Amos 1st 3 Cds ]Many Kate Bush ]Early Marti Jones ]World Party - Goodbye Jumbo and Bang ] ] ]There are many more... ] ] ]As far as TT, I really got on board with Coming Up Close. While it doesn't ]approach her solo work, I remember being blown away by What about Love, ]Will She just fall down, and the title track. I was very pleased with ]telescope as it paired 2 great singer/songwriters together. ] ]Terry ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: ElizaS33@aol.com Message-ID: [11.a42612.25c35248@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:12:56 EST Subject: Re: OT: Shelby Lynne To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ]] I have afew recommendations...one is NAN VERNON's MANTA RAY album from 1996. She was "discovered" by Dave Stewart during the Spiritual Cowboy days and she released only one album (because noone bought it but me) but it's great.[[ Make that nobody bought it but the two of us. :-) Thanks for the reminder; I was fairly infatuated with that one for a while, but until this moment had completely forgotten about it. Will have to give it another listen. She was also really charming in a ditzy way as a live performer... Elizabeth ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Danceland7@aol.com Message-ID: [54.da158c.25c3526c@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:13:32 EST Subject: Re: Keeper Cd's... To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't forget... Altered Beast - Matthew Sweet Girlfriend - Matthew Sweet Life Is Sweet - Maria Mckee Vibrator - Terence Trent D'arby Symphony or Damn - Terence Trent D'Arby Eroica - Wendy & Lisa Girl Bros. - Wendy & Lisa Help Yourself - Julian Lennon Photograph Smile - Julian Lennon Bellybutton - Jellyfish Spilt Milk - Jellyfish There are so many...so little time... Jay ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Danceland7@aol.com Message-ID: [1c.9105b2.25c35334@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:16:52 EST Subject: Re: Keeper CDs To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh yeah... ALL Jen Trynin's Toni Childs - The Woman's Boat Vic Chesnutt - about to choke ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: ElizaS33@aol.com Message-ID: [1a.52e251.25c3548b@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:22:35 EST Subject: Re: TT vs. Solo To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just figured out my answer to this question! So I'm a bit slow... I think I'm mostly a mid-period fan. While I love all her work (well, the Voices Carry album isn't without its drawbacks) the two that I find myself listening to regularly are Whatever and Everything's Different Now. She'd hit her stride as a truly remarkable songwriter by that point, and the emotional perspective was a bit softer and less relentlessly critical than much of her later work, which - although lord knows there's a place for criticism in the world, and nobody turns a phrase better than she - puts the later stuff in the "gotta be in the right mood to listen to it" category. For me, anyway. "Magnolia" falls into the same category for me, but many of those songs are from the "Whatever" era, so I'm not sure what the current trend is! Either way, it's all well worth having. Elizabeth ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [2513CDDD84CED211BAC60008C75D45B102CBA6FF@hqmail01.frc.com] From: "Bachman, Michael" [Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com] To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:50:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, Do you perfer The Turning to Sam's Martinis and Bikinis? I don't have The Turning, but I have Martinis and Bikinis and Cruel Inventions. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wright [mailto:yuma77@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:07 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Love - Forever Changes Dream Syndicate - The Day Before Wine & Roses Byrds - Notorious Byrd Brothers Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams Sam Phillips - The Turning Linton Kwesi Johnson - Forces of Victory Mark Heard - Satelite Sky ]From: "Terry Ingalls" [tingalls@coastalnet.com] ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] ]Subject: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:26:06 -0500 ] ]Regarding keeper CDs: ] ]Aimee Mann - IWS, Whatever ]All Beatles ]The first 5 Elvis Costello CDs ]1st 3 Graham Parker CDs ]Nearly all of Dylan's 60s recordings, 70s Blood on the Tracks, 80s Infidels ]and Oh Mercy ]Richard Thompson - Rumour and Sigh ]Tori Amos 1st 3 Cds ]Many Kate Bush ]Early Marti Jones ]World Party - Goodbye Jumbo and Bang ] ] ]There are many more... ] ] ]As far as TT, I really got on board with Coming Up Close. While it doesn't ]approach her solo work, I remember being blown away by What about Love, ]Will She just fall down, and the title track. I was very pleased with ]telescope as it paired 2 great singer/songwriters together. ] ]Terry ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:55:24 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: Shelby Lynne From: "Daniel P. Melvold" [lovnros@idt.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Message-ID: [B4B7423C.3D3%lovnros@idt.net] Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have that album as well ] From: ElizaS33@aol.com ] Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:12:56 EST ] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ] Subject: Re: OT: Shelby Lynne ] ]]] I have ] afew recommendations...one is NAN VERNON's MANTA RAY album from 1996. She was ] "discovered" by Dave Stewart during the Spiritual Cowboy days and she ] released only one album (because noone bought it but me) but it's great.[[ ] ] Make that nobody bought it but the two of us. :-) Thanks for the reminder; I ] was fairly infatuated with that one for a while, but until this moment had ] completely forgotten about it. Will have to give it another listen. ] ] She was also really charming in a ditzy way as a live performer... ] ] Elizabeth ] ] ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: "Steven E. Alter" [shteevea@earthlink.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:15:36 -0800 Message-ID: [LNBBLFHDDFKNPDAEGBKNAEDKCBAA.shteevea@earthlink.net] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael -- I'm butting in here, but THE TURNING is also a must have, though pretty different from either IW or M&B. It was the first album T-Bone produced and her last as Leslie Phillips, which she recorded as when she was a Christian artist -- whatever the hell that means. Anyway, it is more overtly spiritual than her other lp's. Musically, it's more folky than poppy, pretty stripped down and acoustic. The songs are all tuneful, but there are only hints of the more Beatle-esque turn she would later take. If you are familiar with T-Bone's work of the late 80s -- on his own and with Peter Case and Tonio K. -- that should give you a sense of the sound. It's a beautiful record and has several of my favorite songs of hers. CRUEL INVENTIONS is also pretty great; not as consistent as any of the above, but with several absolute classics. The only album of hers I'm not wild about is OMNIPOP, which is just kind of an experimental mess. And if you ever have a chance to see her live, don't miss it -- she's amazing! Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of Bachman, Michael Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:50 PM To: 'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu' Subject: RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Mark, Do you perfer The Turning to Sam's Martinis and Bikinis? I don't have The Turning, but I have Martinis and Bikinis and Cruel Inventions. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wright [mailto:yuma77@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:07 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Love - Forever Changes Dream Syndicate - The Day Before Wine & Roses Byrds - Notorious Byrd Brothers Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams Sam Phillips - The Turning Linton Kwesi Johnson - Forces of Victory Mark Heard - Satelite Sky ]From: "Terry Ingalls" [tingalls@coastalnet.com] ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] ]Subject: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:26:06 -0500 ] ]Regarding keeper CDs: ] ]Aimee Mann - IWS, Whatever ]All Beatles ]The first 5 Elvis Costello CDs ]1st 3 Graham Parker CDs ]Nearly all of Dylan's 60s recordings, 70s Blood on the Tracks, 80s Infidels ]and Oh Mercy ]Richard Thompson - Rumour and Sigh ]Tori Amos 1st 3 Cds ]Many Kate Bush ]Early Marti Jones ]World Party - Goodbye Jumbo and Bang ] ] ]There are many more... ] ] ]As far as TT, I really got on board with Coming Up Close. While it doesn't ]approach her solo work, I remember being blown away by What about Love, ]Will She just fall down, and the title track. I was very pleased with ]telescope as it paired 2 great singer/songwriters together. ] ]Terry ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000128211729.98130.qmail@hotmail.com] From: "Mark Wright" [yuma77@hotmail.com] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:17:29 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Michael - I like Martinis and Bikinis about the same actually. The Turning was the last of her Leslie Phillips albums but was re-released a couple of years ago with a new name & cover. Its got terrific, intense songs. More religious undercurrent than later albums but not of an offputting sort. It's the album where she met T-Bone Burnett. Mark Other faves Neil Young - Tonight's the Night Los Lobos - Kiko Fairport Convention - Heyday Marti Jones - Live at Spirit Square Mary-Chapin Carpenter - State of the Heart ]From: "Bachman, Michael" [Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com] ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] ]Subject: RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:50:06 -0500 ] ]Mark, ] ] Do you perfer The Turning to Sam's Martinis and Bikinis? I don't ]have The Turning, but I have Martinis and Bikinis and Cruel ]Inventions. ] ]Michael ] ]-----Original Message----- ]From: Mark Wright [mailto:yuma77@hotmail.com] ]Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:07 PM ]To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ] ] ]Love - Forever Changes ]Dream Syndicate - The Day Before Wine & Roses ]Byrds - Notorious Byrd Brothers ]Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams ]Sam Phillips - The Turning ]Linton Kwesi Johnson - Forces of Victory ]Mark Heard - Satelite Sky ] ] ] ]From: "Terry Ingalls" [tingalls@coastalnet.com] ] ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ] ]To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] ] ]Subject: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ] ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:26:06 -0500 ] ] ] ]Regarding keeper CDs: ] ] ] ]Aimee Mann - IWS, Whatever ] ]All Beatles ] ]The first 5 Elvis Costello CDs ] ]1st 3 Graham Parker CDs ] ]Nearly all of Dylan's 60s recordings, 70s Blood on the Tracks, 80s ]Infidels ] ] ]and Oh Mercy ] ]Richard Thompson - Rumour and Sigh ] ]Tori Amos 1st 3 Cds ] ]Many Kate Bush ] ]Early Marti Jones ] ]World Party - Goodbye Jumbo and Bang ] ] ] ] ] ]There are many more... ] ] ] ] ] ]As far as TT, I really got on board with Coming Up Close. While it ]doesn't ] ]approach her solo work, I remember being blown away by What about Love, ] ]Will She just fall down, and the title track. I was very pleased with ] ]telescope as it paired 2 great singer/songwriters together. ] ] ] ]Terry ] ] ] ]______________________________________________________ ]Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [010c01bf69d7$9549f380$020c0b0a@cravetechnology.com] From: "Howard Semones" [soanim8ed@rmi.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:34:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0105_01BF699C.D95675C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01BF699C.D95675C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael and Mark, Being a big Sam Phillips fan myself, I'd have to say that "The = Indescribable Wow" to be my favorite album. It was her first secular = collection and she really seem to be free of all the problems she had = while recording as Leslie. It's very emotional. Although I do love = "Cruel Intentions" and enjoy "The Turning" and "Martinis & Bikinis". I = also agree about "Omnipop", very sporadic although I do love, 'Faster = Pussycat To The Library'. It's nice to hear from some Sam fans. Howard /////////////////////////////////////////////// If life isn't a cartoon, then why am I so animated? http://www.rmi.net/~soanim8ed/webpen.htm \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Wright=20 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu=20 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:17 PM Subject: RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Michael - I like Martinis and Bikinis about the same actually. The = Turning=20 was the last of her Leslie Phillips albums but was re-released a = couple of=20 years ago with a new name & cover. Its got terrific, intense songs. = More=20 religious undercurrent than later albums but not of an offputting = sort. It's=20 the album where she met T-Bone Burnett. Mark Other faves Neil Young - Tonight's the Night Los Lobos - Kiko Fairport Convention - Heyday Marti Jones - Live at Spirit Square Mary-Chapin Carpenter - State of the Heart ]From: "Bachman, Michael" [Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com] ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] ]Subject: RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:50:06 -0500 ] ]Mark, ] ] Do you perfer The Turning to Sam's Martinis and Bikinis? I don't ]have The Turning, but I have Martinis and Bikinis and Cruel ]Inventions. ] ]Michael ] ]-----Original Message----- ]From: Mark Wright [mailto:yuma77@hotmail.com] ]Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:07 PM ]To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ] ] ]Love - Forever Changes ]Dream Syndicate - The Day Before Wine & Roses ]Byrds - Notorious Byrd Brothers ]Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams ]Sam Phillips - The Turning ]Linton Kwesi Johnson - Forces of Victory ]Mark Heard - Satelite Sky ] ] ] ]From: "Terry Ingalls" [tingalls@coastalnet.com] ] ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ] ]To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] ] ]Subject: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ] ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:26:06 -0500 ] ] ] ]Regarding keeper CDs: ] ] ] ]Aimee Mann - IWS, Whatever ] ]All Beatles ] ]The first 5 Elvis Costello CDs ] ]1st 3 Graham Parker CDs ] ]Nearly all of Dylan's 60s recordings, 70s Blood on the Tracks, 80s=20 ]Infidels ] ] ]and Oh Mercy ] ]Richard Thompson - Rumour and Sigh ] ]Tori Amos 1st 3 Cds ] ]Many Kate Bush ] ]Early Marti Jones ] ]World Party - Goodbye Jumbo and Bang ] ] ] ] ] ]There are many more... ] ] ] ] ] ]As far as TT, I really got on board with Coming Up Close. While it=20 ]doesn't ] ]approach her solo work, I remember being blown away by What about = Love, ] ]Will She just fall down, and the title track. I was very pleased = with ] ]telescope as it paired 2 great singer/songwriters together. ] ] ] ]Terry ] ] ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-Id: [4.2.2.20000128164047.00ac9320@pop.mindspring.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:42:07 -0500 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Deb [indigo@mindspring.com] Subject: Re: Aimee Live! from Sundance tonight Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:05 PM 1/27/00 , you wrote: ]Aimee and others are doing a live webcast from Sundance tonight on www.vh1.com ]at 7:30 eastern time. If you missed this, it has been archived at the site. -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: "Cameron Smith" [cam@extraneous.demon.co.uk] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: RE: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:18:29 -0800 Message-ID: [LPBBKDMBMNBJKEGFKPAJMEECCCAA.cam@extraneous.demon.co.uk] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Seems to be a bit to think about... Aimee or TT or both? It's hard to say but I'd agree with whoever said that "Coming Up Close" paved the way for what was to follow. Being in the UK, we never got "Voices Carry" and all the 80's video-era cliché baggage that goes with it, so my experience started with Q Magazine's gushing review of "Welcome Home" in '86, and I got sucked in there and then. EDN got great reviews and I was drawn particularly to "Telescope" and "Why Must I?" among others but the real revelation came with a sleepless night in early '93 when I spotted somebody on MTV Europe who looked like Aimee, sounded like Aimee, and indeed was the very same, and the video was for a song called "I Should've Known" that I hadn't previously been aware of. I was so happy she was still going; I was even happier that the material sounded so much more assured than it had in the past. A couple of weeks later, Q Magazine whetted my appetite with a cover CD featuring "4th of July" and I couldn't get my hands on "Whatever" fast enough. It's been an obsessive thing since then, but the seeds were sown many years earlier. I always liked her as a writer, but as a band, I don't think 'Til Tuesday did her songs any great favours. Keeper CDs? All Aimee's stuff Crowded House - Temple Of Low Men & Together Alone October Project - October Project & Falling Farther In Francis Dunnery - Tall Blonde Helicopter (I bought it on the same day as IWS in Oct. '95 and it's always been mentally linked to it for no particularly good reason) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Maria McKee - Life Is Sweet Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen (or Two Wheels Good, as it's known outside the UK) Squeeze - Play XTC - Skylarking & Apple Venus vol.1 Dead Can Dance - Toward The Within Ani Difranco - Not A Pretty Girl ... and it's early days yet, but maybe Fiona Apple - When The Pawn... which I haven't stopped playing for weeks And here ends my questionable use of a Friday evening. Time to exploit what's left of the social life, methinks. Laters Cameron Smith ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-Id: [l03110703b4b7c6c3c381@[138.202.40.156]] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:23:03 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold [bachtold@beta.usfca.edu] Subject: Re: Aimee in the new Rolling Stone! ] but then the fact that Aimee did a flawless impression of ]Ethel Merman at the end of "No Myth" Tuesday night doesn't mean that an ]accurate comparison is the best. i was there - it was an incredibly spiritual/sychronistic moment for me when aimee channeled Ethel. i, too, have a fondness for ethel mermen imitation. but in this alter ego, i am known to my special friends, as "bethel vermin." beth Beth Bachtold USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 Writer/Contributor, Ink Blot Magazine http://www.inkblotmagazine.com "There's always room for pie!" ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Message-ID: [dc.104f9f8.25c378d5@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:57:25 EST Subject: The "keepers" thread To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do so hate to be a crank, but this "keepers" thread threatens to tip the whole balance of the list dangerously OT. I've seen many a list before this one degenerate into "desert island discs" threads and unfortunately drive folks with less time on their hands away. Seems like there's way more than enough Aimee stuff going on right now without each of the hundreds of people on the list chiming in with their 50 favorite records of all time. Just my two cents before I start having to hit the delete button more regularly. ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000128231936.5100.qmail@hotmail.com] From: "John Boyd" [accutron2000@hotmail.com] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Aimee Mann Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:19:36 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sorry for the lame Subject - I'm just not that creative... I really enjoy reading this list - its great. Id like to thank all the people who welcomed me last week when I posted for my first time. I was kind of surprised when all these unfamiliar names appeared in my inbox. Very nice people. Ive heard the song Susan on mp3 and it sounds kind of ...um... familiar. Where is that song from ? Can you buy it some where - I dont think so but maybe. Can someone please forward me a link to that track as I lost mine and would like to give it some people. Thanks allot. And - How many people are on this list ? Id guess maybe 2000 but I really dont know. Thanks again. Word out, JFB ]From there to hear ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: "Steven E. Alter" [shteevea@earthlink.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: RE: The "keepers" thread Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:36:16 -0800 Message-ID: [LNBBLFHDDFKNPDAEGBKNGEDMCBAA.shteevea@earthlink.net] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh please, do we only have to talk about Aimee and nothing but Aimee all the time? I would hope that this list brings together people of diverse interests and backgrounds who SHARE a passionate interest in Ms. Mann, and because -- not in spite -- of that, I like hearing what other folks are listening to, passionate about, etc. I understand your concern, but let's not get too precious about it. That's what a delete button is for, after all, isn't it? Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:57 PM To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: The "keepers" thread I do so hate to be a crank, but this "keepers" thread threatens to tip the whole balance of the list dangerously OT. I've seen many a list before this one degenerate into "desert island discs" threads and unfortunately drive folks with less time on their hands away. Seems like there's way more than enough Aimee stuff going on right now without each of the hundreds of people on the list chiming in with their 50 favorite records of all time. Just my two cents before I start having to hit the delete button more regularly. ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Zabadak900@aol.com Message-ID: [c7.15d3c03.25c38307@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:40:55 EST Subject: Re: The "keepers" thread To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh puleeeeze, git ovah it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DID type threads serve to build "family" on fan lists. Lord knows that I've seen lists ripped apart by contention. However a "Fave-Rave" topic is hardly death-knell material. PS. to whomever listed "early Marti Jones": Bless You. she's one of the very few performers who've brought tears to my eyes when I saw her at the Bottom Line in NYC way too many years ago ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [2C61C8FFB164D311B0D500902786F104E62AC7@SAGAN] From: Dominic Mah [Dominic@askjeeves.com] To: "'mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu'" [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: RE: The "keepers" thread Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:54:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I concur. Although I think people should keep in mind that the primary advantage of this list is its ability to facilitate "discussion," and perhaps some of the keepers thread posts do look like those lists that Entertainment Weekly makes ad nauseum. We could "talk" about a great many other things, such as- -Steven, are you by change related to Prof. Robert Alter at UC Berkeley? His son is a good friend of mine. -When will more tour dates be announced? -Who's read "Ghost World?" (the graphic novel that Aimee gushingly referred to at the Bimbo's show the other night) ] -----Original Message----- ] From: Steven E. Alter [SMTP:shteevea@earthlink.net] ] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:36 PM ] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ] Subject: RE: The "keepers" thread ] ] Oh please, do we only have to talk about Aimee and nothing but Aimee all ] the ] time? ] ] I would hope that this list brings together people of diverse interests ] and ] backgrounds who SHARE a passionate interest in Ms. Mann, and because -- ] not ] in spite -- of that, I like hearing what other folks are listening to, ] passionate about, etc. ] ] I understand your concern, but let's not get too precious about it. ] That's ] what a delete button is for, after all, isn't it? ] ] Steve ] ] -----Original Message----- ] From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ] [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of ] MnnyMoNHak@aol.com ] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:57 PM ] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ] Subject: The "keepers" thread ] ] ] I do so hate to be a crank, but this "keepers" thread threatens to tip the ] whole balance of the list dangerously OT. I've seen many a list before ] this ] one degenerate into "desert island discs" threads and unfortunately drive ] folks with less time on their hands away. Seems like there's way more than ] enough Aimee stuff going on right now without each of the hundreds of ] people ] on the list chiming in with their 50 favorite records of all time. Just my ] two cents before I start having to hit the delete button more regularly. ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: ElizaS33@aol.com Message-ID: [64.579437.25c38545@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:50:29 EST Subject: RE: The "keepers" thread To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ]]I understand your concern, but let's not get too precious about it. That's what a delete button is for, after all, isn't it?[[ Butting in here... ;-) Indeed, that is what the delete button is for, and for huge long-term Aimee fans that's great. BUT I just unsubscribed from seven other mailing lists on Wednesday - for artists I quite like - because there was so much traffic about other bands the list seemed to like, etc. that it just wasn't worth the time or energy to hit the damn delete button anymore. With much of the world just finding out that Aimee Mann exists, the concern that people will come here to learn something, lose interests in people's record collections, and move on is quite valid at this point. If anyone who's about to fall into that category is reading this, you might want to subscribe to the read-only newsletter through aimeemann.com rather than giving up entirely. Speaking for myself rather than the public good, I don't mind off-topic threads at all, but in the case of favorite-CD threads like this one, more info would be great. A list of a bunch of records somebody likes doesn't really do me much good, but if the person speaks a bit about *why* they like it, maybe I'll be inspired to go out and buy it. Just a gentle suggestion... Elizabeth ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: ElizaS33@aol.com Message-ID: [31.8301b2.25c3860a@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:53:46 EST Subject: More tour dates! (well, kinda...) To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dominic asked: --When will more tour dates be announced? Which reminded me, the message on Largo's machine today said Aimee and Michael will be back there in March. Sorry for the multiple posts - I forgot about that crucial piece of information! Elizabeth ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: GaryLBSP@aol.com Message-ID: [38.1723d4d.25c3875b@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:59:23 EST Subject: Re: The "keepers" thread To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/28/00 3:42:06 PM, Zabadak900@aol.com writes: [[ Oh puleeeeze, git ovah it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DID type threads serve to build "family" on fan lists. Lord knows that I've seen lists ripped apart by contention. However a "Fave-Rave" topic is hardly death-knell material. ]] Agreed! I love to have albums and artists recommended by those with similar taste -- one of the best perks of fan lists. I would much rather go off on this tangent than debate the Magnolia frogs for the THOUSANDTH time... ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-Id: [l03110704b4b7e0294950@[138.202.40.182]] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:10:12 -0800 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu From: Beth Bachtold [bachtold@beta.usfca.edu] Subject: RE: The "keepers" thread ]i have started Ghost World, and as she said it is "un-F**ing ]believable."the song is a beautiful addition. bb I concur. Although I think people should keep in mind that the primary ]advantage of this list is its ability to facilitate "discussion," and ]perhaps some of the keepers thread posts do look like those lists that ]Entertainment Weekly makes ad nauseum. ] ]We could "talk" about a great many other things, such as- ] ]-Steven, are you by change related to Prof. Robert Alter at UC Berkeley? His ]son is a good friend of mine. ] ]-When will more tour dates be announced? ] ]-Who's read "Ghost World?" (the graphic novel that Aimee gushingly referred ]to at the Bimbo's show the other night) ] ]] -----Original Message----- ]] From: Steven E. Alter [SMTP:shteevea@earthlink.net] ]] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 3:36 PM ]] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]] Subject: RE: The "keepers" thread ]] ]] Oh please, do we only have to talk about Aimee and nothing but Aimee all ]] the ]] time? ]] ]] I would hope that this list brings together people of diverse interests ]] and ]] backgrounds who SHARE a passionate interest in Ms. Mann, and because -- ]] not ]] in spite -- of that, I like hearing what other folks are listening to, ]] passionate about, etc. ]] ]] I understand your concern, but let's not get too precious about it. ]] That's ]] what a delete button is for, after all, isn't it? ]] ]] Steve ]] ]] -----Original Message----- ]] From: owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]] [mailto:owner-mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu]On Behalf Of ]] MnnyMoNHak@aol.com ]] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:57 PM ]] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]] Subject: The "keepers" thread ]] ]] ]] I do so hate to be a crank, but this "keepers" thread threatens to tip the ]] whole balance of the list dangerously OT. I've seen many a list before ]] this ]] one degenerate into "desert island discs" threads and unfortunately drive ]] folks with less time on their hands away. Seems like there's way more than ]] enough Aimee stuff going on right now without each of the hundreds of ]] people ]] on the list chiming in with their 50 favorite records of all time. Just my ]] two cents before I start having to hit the delete button more regularly. Beth Bachtold USF/CCAC Joint Degree Program/USF Cooperative BFA Program 415-703-9504 fax: 415-703-9509 Writer/Contributor, Ink Blot Magazine http://www.inkblotmagazine.com "There's always room for pie!" ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Message-ID: [79.f52bca.25c38a0f@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:10:55 EST Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/28/2000 2:30:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, cam@extraneous.demon.co.uk writes: [[ I spotted somebody on MTV Europe who looked like Aimee, sounded like Aimee, and indeed was the very same, and the video was for a song called "I Should've Known" ]] Does anyone know where you can get this video? Or, for that matter, any other Aimee videos? Steve ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Message-ID: [bb.c66262.25c38fa1@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:34:41 EST Subject: Aimee Mann Stock To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it may have been a terrible day for the stock market today, but Aimee Mann was up 2 1/2! Steve ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: LoopyJF@cs.com Message-ID: [b3.a77474.25c39036@cs.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:37:10 EST Subject: Re: Aimee Mann Stock To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great day for me too. I bought Aimee stock yesterday. Loopy ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000129011757.11512.qmail@web3506.mail.yahoo.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: Miz Phair [mannphan@yahoo.com] Subject: Re: The "keepers" thread To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know I'm prolonging response to this, but I'd just like to say that if not for Aimee Mann posts on the Liz Phair list (and as fellow listees can attest there have been A LOT lately to other listees' fellow regret), I wouldn't have given Aimee another go. I appreciate hearing what others like so I can try out their music. If they like who I like already, it's a better head start than just going by Rolling Stone et al. paige- NP: Pavement (Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain) - another OT recommendation I'm trying out ... and liking. ===== My radio station: [A HREF="http://beta.launch.com/music/launchcast/friend?u=9187086"] [IMGSRC="http://beta.launch.com/music/launchcast/images/share.gif"] [BR] Aimee's radio station: http://radio.sonicnet.com/stations/station-29.asp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Message-ID: [50.dddfac.25c39f2c@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:41:00 EST Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I love all of Sam's albums too, don't have the Turning, but someone from the Sam list is sending me a comp of her Leslie days, which will include some of the stuff from the Turning. I have 4 Leslie tracks from some one else and there....interesting. Quite diffrent, not bad but some of it's pretty cheesy. Omnipop took me awhile to warm up to but now I love it as I say. it's her most expermential album and quite contrasty after martini's and Bikini's. Andrea ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: MnnyMoNHak@aol.com Message-ID: [e0.9cebe3.25c3a00c@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:44:44 EST Subject: Re: The "keepers" thread To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [[I know I'm prolonging response to this, but I'd just like to say that if not for Aimee Mann posts on the Liz Phair list (and as fellow listees can attest there have been A LOT lately to other listees' fellow regret), I wouldn't have given Aimee another go. I appreciate hearing what others like so I can try out their music. If they like who I like already, it's a better head start than just going by Rolling Stone et al. paige-]] Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against using this forum to write, "If you like Aimee, you might dig the new Liz Phair or Shelby Lynne or Anne-Sophie von Otter album" or whatever. Turning each other onto obscure new releases is a good--nay, grand--thing. I just don't get wasting the bandwidth and each other's time to reiterate that the Beatles and Stones made some of the best albums of all time and other such "High Fidelity"-esque listmaking. (Thank you, Elizabeth S, for getting what I'm trying to say and restating it more charitably.) ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000129014637.7728.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:46:37 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Benning [musosf@yahoo.com] Subject: B#2 track sequence and comments on new songs To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I picked up a copy of the full-length B#2 CD at the SF concert this past Tuesday, and it contained a couple of surprises. First of all, the "Susan" vs. "I Can See It Now" debate is solved: on the disc, the track is named "Susan" (although aimeemann.com still lists the track as "I Can See It Now".) Also, I was surprised to find the track sequence to be different than what's listed on aimeemann.com. Here's the actual track list: How Am I Different Nothing is Good Enough Red Vines The Fall of the World's Own Optimist Satellite Deathly Ghost World Calling It Quits Driving Sideways Just Like Anyone Susan It Takes All Kinds You Do I actually like this sequence better, because it preserves the order of the first five tracks from the preview disc. I didn't realize how accustomed I'd become to that order until I began listening to the full-length disc and realized I was anticipating the beginning of each next song after one had ended. Of the three tracks not previously contained on the preview disc or on Magnolia, my favorite so far is Ghost World. I really enjoyed this one when Aimee performed it live, and it bears repeated listenings. It's an uptempo track that to me wouldn't sound out of place on Everything's Different Now. The choruses are typical Aimee brilliance: the lyrics are pure teenage angst, while the melody beautifully rises and falls along with the protagonist's hopes. I enjoy this song so much that I went out and bought Daniel Clowes' "Ghost World", which was Aimee's original inspiration. I've never before bought a graphic novel, but I read this one last night and really enjoyed it. It was funny, moving and best of all, authentic. And Aimee's song perfectly captures its essence. My second favorite of the three new songs is Susan. I very much enjoy the lyrical approach Aimee has taken with this one. Most "name" songs are either all about the person named (as in Aimee's "Mr. Harris" or Costello/McCartney's "Veronica") or about the singer's relationship to the person named (Aimee's "Ray" or Costello's "Alison"). But in this case, Aimee twists these conventions. The lyrics are about a failed relationship with a third party, yet Aimee manages to convey what an important confidant Susan is to the singer. She does this in subtle ways: by using the nickname "Suzy" in the second verse and by referring to how well Susan had assessed the situation beforehand. Add to this a buoyant uptempo groove and a nice guitar lick, and you have another gem of an Aimee song. I'm also glad the final name is Susan and not I Can See It Now. The latter seems more like a "typical" Aimee title (a la I Could Hurt You Now, No One Is Watching You Now, You're With Stupid Now), while the former emphasizes the unique lyrical approach by creating expectations that the lyrics are about Susan when actually they are not. It Takes All Kinds hasn't yet excited me as much as the other two, but perhaps it will grow on me. It's a mellow song that in my opinion is outshone by other ballads such as Deathly, Satellite and You Do (not to mention Wise Up and Save Me, but those aren't on the album). I do like the way the lyric about listening to Bacharach literally evokes the musical Bacharach references in the arrangement. Listening to this made me more sensitive to the Bacharach-like flourishes in other songs such as Satellite. While I can imagine this song being used as an album closer, I'm glad that You Do holds that spot instead as I enjoy You Do much more. Anyway, that's what three days of repeated listenings have produced. To everyone attending the ten remaining shows: have fun and please post details to the list! I can't wait to hear about what new twists/guests show up as the tour progresses. - Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [20000129015517.10274.qmail@hotmail.com] From: "Mark Wright" [yuma77@hotmail.com] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:55:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed There are four Leslie albums altogether. Turning is the only one worth bothering about, except maybe to see how far she's come. Mark ]From: AWeiss4338@aol.com ]Reply-To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu ]Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo ]Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:41:00 EST ] ]I love all of Sam's albums too, don't have the Turning, but someone from ]the ]Sam list is sending me a comp of her Leslie days, which will include some ]of ]the stuff from the Turning. I have 4 Leslie tracks from some one else and ]there....interesting. Quite diffrent, not bad but some of it's pretty ]cheesy. ]Omnipop took me awhile to warm up to but now I love it as I say. it's her ]most expermential album and quite contrasty after martini's and Bikini's. ]Andrea ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Salt5@aol.com Message-ID: [d9.8a5ffb.25c3a349@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:58:33 EST Subject: "Artists Who Are Too Lame or Obscure to Have Their Own List" List? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu CC: Salt5@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please refer to Off Topic posts as OT in the headline. Better yet, start another list. Many fans are waiting eagerly for additional Aimee tour dates and it's not fair to make them wade through your thoughts on other artists and topics. If you think (as at least one person seemed to) that a mailing list devoted only to Aimee Mann is inappropriate or limiting in some way, please feel free to find a venue which suits your own interests and passions. Think I'm being cranky? I suggest that you go into your email archives and add up the recent posts from this list. Then add up the off-topic spam entries and compare the total with the number of entries that discussed anything at all connected with Aimee and her music. By my rough count, Aimee is running dead last in this inventory of her own list. What's wrong with this picture? ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [00b001bf69fd$d84b0220$23fb5ad1@a] From: "Chris Beckwith" [beckwith@ime.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: Re: The "keepers" thread Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:09:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Elizabeth [ElizaS33@aol.com] wrote: | I just unsubscribed from seven other mailing lists on Wednesday - for artists I quite like - because there was so | much traffic about other bands the list seemed to like, etc. that it just wasn't worth the time or energy to hit the | damn delete button anymore. I think *every* list goes through periods when there are a lot of off-topic posts. These are generally therapeutic--when there's not a lot going on with an artist they keep people involved and the list active. What I generally recommend is for those who don't care for digressions from the subject at hand to scan the archives periodically for content more connected to their needs. That said, this *is* an odd time to be veering off-topic! :) | in the case of favorite-CD threads like this one, more info would be great. There *has* been by and large a certain lack of specificity about the "desert island discs" thread, hasn't there? Perhaps restricting oneself to a disc at a time (as I did with the Shelby Lynne disc, thus starting an off-topic thread of my own--DOH!:) would be helpful. In my mind I sort of justified discussing Shelby because her Conan appearance was imminent and I wanted to let folks who might be open to it to get a chance to catch it. For the most part, though, I try to restrict off-topic content to my signature. And in my never-ending quest to submit *something* relevant, I played the Magnolia stk today for a friend and long-time Aimee fann and sold him on it. Take care, Chris ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: LoopyJF@cs.com Message-ID: [96.6d9772.25c3a702@cs.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:14:26 EST Subject: Re: "Artists Who Are Too Lame or Obscure to Have Their Own List" List? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree 100%. I have been a Aimee Fan since the first Til Tuesday lp, and I was thrilled to find mannlist a few weeks ago when I got my computer, But every day I go through between 20 and 30 emails from mannlist with only half or less being about Aimee. Having "if you like Aimee you might like (---?---)" is one thing, but pages and pages of info and related news on Non-Aimee artists is another. Please Please Please Everyone put OT in the subject line if you want to discuss non- Aimee Issues, so The True Aimee Fans can save some time. ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Message-ID: [4d.119d6e4.25c3a702@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:14:26 EST Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes Mark I know about the early Sam stuff, she has come a long way. A very long way. I like some OT discussions more than others. I was kind of board by the Frogs discussion but I do like the DID one. Always intersting those threads, even if the albums are overtly familur. Always cool to see someone name an album and go, "hey they like that one cool, so do I." Besides the tour is just starting ab\nd stuff like this is just a lull. When the tour really get's going we'll have lot's to post on the 'Largo On The Road,' 'Largostock,' Largo Faire,' ok I'll stop :). Andrea ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:16:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G." [zazbo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu] To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Aimee Mann Message-ID: [Pine.GSO.4.21.0001282016050.10389-100000@piglet.cc.utexas.edu] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, John Boyd wrote: ] And - How many people are on this list ? Id guess maybe 2000 but I really ] dont know. **450, as of Friday evening. ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Message-ID: [7b.f68622.25c3c025@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:01:41 EST Subject: Re: keeper CDs / TT vs. Solo To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As the one who originally asked the question about Keeper CDs, let me clarify something. I never intended this thing to veer off to a discussion of what CDs one would take to a desert island. What prompted the question was that the Aimee solo CDs are, in my opinion, rare in that they contain NO weak tracks- EVERY song can stand on its own. Perhaps I am a bit more discriminating than others, but I just do not think that there are that many CDs that fit this category. I mean, how many CDs are there where, when you hear one song, you KNOW what the next cut will be? How many are there where you know EVERY song? As I said in my original post, Beatle albums and a few others qualify (Aimee included). There is a difference between saying I love this or that CD and saying that EVERY song on a CD is great. There are many "favorite" CDs that also include weak tracks. I think that most everyone that is an Aimee fan has come to realize that her solo efforts have been nothing short of sensational, and the point of the question was to find out what kind of company Aimee deserves to be included in. That being said, I would like to thank everyone that takes part in the makeup of the Mannlist. I've been a part of this thing for just a few weeks and the information contained in here about Aimee is amazing. I've only been an Aimee fan for about 5 years and before I got a computer (2 years ago) and found the Mannlist (recently) I was dying for Aimee information. Having seen the Aimee/Michael concert in SF this week, I look forward to hearing about their shows as the tour proceeds. Steve ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [38926E27.10824A0D@the-spa.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:35:58 -0500 From: Joe [bokomaru42@the-spa.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: The "keepers" thread Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey folks, I have to respectfully agree with those who use this list not only for Aimee news and schmooze but also to try to help and be helped by others to avoid spending cash on CD's (of sub-Aimee quality) that they do not like. One person made a good distinction also between just listing faves and giving some clues as to why a certain record is great in order to provide a more reliable barometer for each other. That being said, here's a clue as to my biases before I submit yet another top ten list of my favorite cd's of the 1990's. My criteria, which Aimee Mann meets so fully, are: Great Melodies, great harmonies, melodic guitar playing without droning mechanical solos ad nauseum, lyrics befitting my advanced age of 36, some JANGLE in the preferably Fender guitars, and more generally , music that is in the rather distinct Power Pop tradition ushered in by great bands like Big Star. Now if you still trust me, check these great discs out..... 1. Frosting On The Beater-Posies (For Marijuana enthusiasts out there try blaring the last track on this disc after a puffy if your Bass speakers can handle the surge) 2. SF American Music Club (keep the suicide hotline number handy for the dark poetry of Mark Eitzel) 3. I'm With Stupid-Aimee Mann (No tip necessary) 4. Great Divide-Semisonic (their latest pales in comparison) 5. Exile In Guyville 6. Girlfriend-Matthew Sweet 7. Puzzle-DaDa (most underrated band ever except for Hmmmmm guess who) 8. Yeah, It's that Easy (not quite Power POp) 9. Bettie Serveert-Bettie Serveert 10. Bandwagonesque-Teenage Fanclub (These guys must have a million listens in on Alex Chilton & Big Star) have a good weekend everyone Joe Oliverio Awaiting the Feb 12th show in Boston MnnyMoNHak@aol.com wrote: ] [[I know I'm prolonging response to this, but I'd just ] like to say that if not for Aimee Mann posts on the ] Liz Phair list (and as fellow listees can attest there ] have been A LOT lately to other listees' fellow ] regret), I wouldn't have given Aimee another go. ] ] I appreciate hearing what others like so I can try out ] their music. If they like who I like already, it's a ] better head start than just going by Rolling Stone et ] al. ] ] paige-]] ] ] Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against using this forum to write, "If you ] like Aimee, you might dig the new Liz Phair or Shelby Lynne or Anne-Sophie ] von Otter album" or whatever. Turning each other onto obscure new releases is ] a good--nay, grand--thing. I just don't get wasting the bandwidth and each ] other's time to reiterate that the Beatles and Stones made some of the best ] albums of all time and other such "High Fidelity"-esque listmaking. (Thank ] you, Elizabeth S, for getting what I'm trying to say and restating it more ] charitably.) ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 From: Brwnshoe@aol.com Message-ID: [32.8888e5.25c3c6fe@aol.com] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:30:54 EST Subject: Aimee Videos? To: mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/28/2000 2:30:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, cam@extraneous.demon.co.uk writes: [[ I spotted somebody on MTV Europe who looked like Aimee, sounded like Aimee, and indeed was the very same, and the video was for a song called "I Should've Known" ]] Does anyone know where you can this video? Steve ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:46:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Keeper CDs From: Spencer Lewis [skilroy@earthlink.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Message-ID: [B4B7DAE7.13B5%skilroy@earthlink.net] Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Jeff Buckley - Grace Michael Penn - Free for All Bettie Seveert - Palomine Jen Trynin - Gun Shy Trigger Happy Throwing Muses - University Aimee - IWS sl ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688 Message-ID: [001401bf6a16$96916900$61654f0c@5qf2q] From: "Sean O'Brien" [seanobrn@worldnet.att.net] To: [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Subject: Re: S.F. 1/25 set list Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:06:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PLease e-mail setlist ----- Original Message ----- From: Achilles Gaubert [achilles@dm.net] To: Aimee Mann Mail List [mannlist@lists.cc.utexas.edu] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:46 AM Subject: S.F. 1/25 set list ] If you'd like the set list for the Jan 25 S.F. show @ Bimbo's, send me ] an email and I'll get it to you this afternoon (PST). ] ] Achilles Gaubert ] ] ----__ListProc__NextPart____MANNLIST__digest_688--