From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #441 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, August 2 2008 Volume 10 : Number 441 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] o.t: Walmart [Ari ] [idealcopy] I want to burn (yet) again [Fergus Kelly ] [idealcopy] Feed the NME [Fergus Kelly ] Re: [idealcopy] Feed the NME [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Feed the NME [MarkBursa@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] o.t: Walmart http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080801/us_nm/walmart_democrats_dc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:36:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] I want to burn (yet) again Mark said: Magazine, apparently, are reforming for some gigs next year. Band comprises Devoto, Abamson, Formula, Doyle. No mention as to who will be playing guitar. Robin Simon clearly could do the JMcG job as he's done it before.... ((( For an old diehard Magazine fan like myself this is great news - though the cynic in me gets a whiff of post-punk revivalist bandwagon, something that surprises me certainly where Devoto is concerned, as he seemed to turn his back on music for years (brief foray with Shelley aside) after Luxuria, and Adamson has had a pretty successful solo career for the last 20 years, soundtrack work etc. From what I can remember of the McGeoch radio documentary, Formula ploughs the soundtrack furrow too. No idea about Doyle. So, will this be an old numbers tour, or will they attempt to put together some new material ? Seems weird to imagine after such a long time out of commission.. ('81/'82 ?) Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:19:01 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] I want to burn (yet) again >>((( For an old diehard Magazine fan like myself this is great news - though the cynic in me gets a whiff of post-punk revivalist bandwagon, something that surprises me certainly where Devoto is concerned, as he seemed to turn his back on music for years (brief foray with Shelley aside) << And brief it was as a live act - four songs at a Mute night at the ICA in 2000, about third on the bill (headliner was a pre-first album Goldfrapp). Most of Pete'n'Howie's set was included as a grainly video on the end of the Buzzkunst album. Other gigs were scheduled (NYC?) but Howie blew them out, leaving Pete to play solo... >>after Luxuria, and Adamson has had a pretty successful solo career for the last 20 years, soundtrack work etc. From what I can remember of the McGeoch radio documentary, Formula ploughs the soundtrack furrow too. << DF's Myspace has some examples of his recent stuff - jazz/funk/soul/reggae (!) vibe. There's a solo album in the works too. >>No idea about Doyle. So, will this be an old numbers tour, or will they attempt to put together some new material ? Seems weird to imagine after such a long time out of commission.. ('81/'82 ?)<< Last gig was the Rockpalast German TV show in late 1980. The final line-up never toured. Devoto toured in 83 with a band including Formula and Robin Simon, with a Magazine-heavy set. Which was the nearest I came to seeing Magazine, so I'm looking forward to these gigs. Howard was in good shape, and every bit as capivatig a front man as ever at the Buzzkunst gig - though that's now 8 years ago! Can't imagine they'll do new struff, and the reunion doesn't seem to stretch beyond two gigs. Given the two creative musicians are both on a jazz tip new material might be (turns to camera) ....nice! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:43:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T bit of fun.......... Worth watching loud Be sure to have the volume on!!!!! 50 years of images in 3 minutes Someone went to a lot of trouble to put this video together. It is well worth the time for a couple minutes of enjoyment. This is a great ... Turn up volume, sit back and enjoy a review of 50 years of history in less than 3 minutes! Thanks to Billy Joel and someone from the University of Chicago with too much time on Google! Just click on the link below. When the song starts it helps to make sure ' Lyrics ' are on in the lower right and on 'fullscreen' at top left. http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yeli23/Flash/Fire.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Feed the NME Mark said: Last gig was the Rockpalast German TV show in late 1980. The final line-up never toured. Devoto toured in 83 with a band including Formula and Robin Simon, with a Magazine-heavy set. Which was the nearest I came to seeing Magazine, so I'm looking forward to these gigs. Howard was in good shape, and every bit as capivatig a front man as ever at the Buzzkunst gig - though that's now 8 years ago! ((( Did you see Devoto at, was it, The Aldwych, in Charing Cross in '83 ? I was there, fresh out of school, first of five summers in London.. a strange line-up with The Smiths and SPK in support ! The former had just releases their first single, Hand In Glove, and no-one gave a shit, they were busy making conversation at the bar... Can't imagine they'll do new struff, and the reunion doesn't seem to stretch beyond two gigs. Given the two creative musicians are both on a jazz tip new material might be (turns to camera) ....nice! ((( Heh heh... nice indeed... strangely, nothing on Adamson's or Formula's Myspace sites about the reunion.. surely though, if they are going to the bother of the reunion, they should do a few more UK dates ? Plenty of Magazine fans to draw out of the woodwork I'm sure. Where did you hear about the gigs Mark ? Mr. Adamson seems like a swell guy - I mailed him a couple of years ago to ask about the availability on CD of his magnificent 1989 EP "The Taming Of The Shrewd" (which I have on vinyl). He wrote back and said 'send us your address and I'll send you a copy !' (to camera..) NICE !! Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:41:41 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Feed the NME >>((( Did you see Devoto at, was it, The Aldwych, in Charing Cross in '83 ? I was there, fresh out of school, first of five summers in London.. a strange line-up with The Smiths and SPK in support ! The former had just releases their first single, Hand In Glove, and no-one gave a shit, they were busy making conversation at the bar...<< No, I saw him at the Hacienda - which hadn't been open long and was very much a live venue at that point - Madchester is a long way off. The Stone Roses were still Goths ;-) I did see the Smiths around that time - supporting The Fall at the Electric Ballroom. Their 7th gig apparently. I'd expected a band called "The Smiths" would be some form of MES joke - instead they were shockingly good, Marr especially cool in his quiff, shades and big semi-acoustic. >>((( Heh heh... nice indeed... strangely, nothing on Adamson's or Formula's Myspace sites about the reunion.. surely though, if they are going to the bother of the reunion, they should do a few more UK dates ? Plenty of Magazine fans to draw out of the woodwork I'm sure.<< Given Howie's notorious reticence I'll be hedging my bets by doing both gigs! I'm still not convinced this will happen.... >>Where did you hear about the gigs Mark ?<< On another mailing list, concerned mainly with matters Fac. >>Mr. Adamson seems like a swell guy - I mailed him a couple of years ago to ask about the availability on CD of his magnificent 1989 EP "The Taming Of The Shrewd" (which I have on vinyl). He wrote back and said 'send us your address and I'll send you a copy !' (to camera..) NICE !!<< Great....;-) Seen Baz play a few times with Nick Cave both in the B'day Party and the very early Bad Seeds (actually they were billed as Nick Cave and the Cavemen!). And I saw JMcG in the Banshees, so in fact the only member of the classic Magazine line-up I've never seen play live is John Doyle. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:06:31 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Feed the NME >>Keeping quiet about seeing Formula with Visage and Martin Jackson with Swing Out Sister are we then, Mark? ; )<< I have in fact seen Swing out Sister, supporting Burt Bachrach at the Royal Albert Hall. Without M Jackson! So there! Did Visage everplay live? Wasn't it just Steve Strange miming to a tape? >>I too saw JMcG in the Banshees, and also with PIL. Also saw Barry Adamson with Iggy Pop. Blimey. These Magazine Chappies get everywhere, don't they?! But how fab is this gonna be if it happens!<< Yes, but only if they get the JMcG replacement right! M ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #441 ********************************