From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V6 #143 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, June 14 2002 Volume 06 : Number 143 Today's Subjects: ----------------- "Insanity on the Airwaves" - 6/3/2002 [Keith Rose ] Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... ["@*_*@ Chris K" ] Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... [Ross Hendry ] Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... ["Todd Evans" ] Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... ["Todd Evans" ] Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... ["Todd Evans" ] Are you a smoker? You can quit now! ["Live Smoke Free" ] Re: Meeting notice ["Chris K @*_*@" ] Cash for Trash!!! Recycle your home/office used and empty cartridges for cash [UsedBuyer ] Re: Meeting notice ["Jill MoonPoet69" ] OT - GBS [fruwench@aol.com (ladywench)] Re: OT: Eddie From Ohio + Kennedys [lori martin ] re: Your $65.00 Genuine Sapphire Reward! ["Jewelry Reward" ] theory of who broke FHDC [Shellyus@aol.com] FHDC baaack!! [Shellyus@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 11:39:53 -0500 From: Keith Rose Subject: "Insanity on the Airwaves" - 6/3/2002 Greetings and Salutations! This week's special topics is songs and comedy about sports. We will also have a large block of your requests! If you'd like to request something ahead of time, please email your request! Otherwise, you can make a request during the show via AOL Instant Messenger (KeeterMan27) or on EFnet in #dementia or #weird-al. NBC-YA! BYE! Keeter Man Host of "Insanity on the Airwaves" Mondays @ 9 PM Eastern Time Dementia Radio - http://radio.thelandofdementia.com:8035 http://www.subtrivial.com/insanity/ - -- Keith Rose, Sir Not Appearing In This Film KeeterMan on EFNet IRC AOL IM: KeeterMan27 ICQ: 7767635 KeeterMan@subtrivial.com Low Brass Player At Large Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia - Gamma Zeta Chapter "Buy a new Game Boy For the fun and the fashion...Just for the passion!" -- Moxy Fr|vous, "Stuck In The 90's" - -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! - -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 02:57:56 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... Todd Evans wrote: > My guess is that there have been no Fruvous releases during the hiatus > because the money simply isn't there. Does anyone know if Fruvous still has > a record deal? I know they put out "C" by themselves, but that kind of > release takes $$$, and maybe without any touring revenue the money just > isn't there. I don't think they have a "record deal" in the traditional sense anyway. When we approached True North about sponsoring something at Frucon 5 they said that they weren't really interested because Fruvous' only connection to them was Thornhill and that was totally over. If they wanted to release a new album, I imagine an outfit like True North would still be interested in working with them, but it seems like they have no specific "deal". As far as why haven't they released a collection of outtakes or live material? Come on! This is Moxy Fruvous we are talking about. There is no WAY they would ever do that. Every track on everything they have ever put out was totally scrutinized by the four of them, and they each get a veto. Do you really think they are suddenly going to go and put out something that they passed on the first time? And why would they put out another live album, when the first one didn't sell well and there are tons of high quality show boots circulating out there? The fact is, that their old material is stale. If there is going to be any more Fruvous touring, or recording, it isn't going to happen until they have some new stuff to play. That much I'm sure of. > Does anybody else besides myself think that by now there should have been > some kind of announcement from the band, their management or their web site > about what their plans might be? As for why they haven't made some kind of announcement, my guess would be that they don't have anything to say. Clearly there is no imminent tour or album, because if there were they would be announcing that. OTOH, they haven't totally broken up either because I would think they would also announce that. Basically they are still on hiatus and doing other stuff, and they will remain that way until they decide to do something as Moxy Fruvous again. I don't understand what else anyone would want of them. Do they have to keep making announcements saying "still on hiatus?" That makes no sense to me. I know it is frustrating to be in limbo, but really that isn't THEIR problem is it? > How about a minor redesign of the web > site? The web site wasn't even redesigned when "C" came out, and the design > of that CD was wonderful. Not True! The web site used the "C" cover art for quite some time during the "C" period, but after a while Chris put the picture back to the one up there now, because obviously it would be silly to have it say "C" forever. Oh and remember, the band doesn't DO fruvous.com. That is Chris' baby. He hasn't been doing much more than maintaining it lately, that is true, but then he probably has better things to do. If you want him to redesign it, you will have to write him directly and convince him why he should spend the energy. A.J. - -- Since 9/11 it is apparently unpatriotic to level even humorous criticism at our fearless "leader". All my sources of good Bushisms have dried up. Humor: Yet another victim of terror. :( Email:aj@locicero.org ICQ: 13117113 AIM: locicero For some of the best Long Distance and Calling Card rates around visit http://www.ld.net/?sensible. Cheap rates and *I* get a commission! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 15:20:41 -0400 From: "@*_*@ Chris K" Subject: Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... Todd Evans wrote: > I think this is an excellent question. I too have wondered why no one seems > to be concerned that Fruvous is squandering the tremendous amount of > momentum gained in the few years preceding the hiatus. I don't think they are squandering it. Haven't you heard that Jian has a show on CBC Newsworld, Murray has another project/Band (the Lesters) that play in Toronto, Mike is teaching and Dave released his own CD? That's not squandering time. > My guess is that there have been no Fruvous releases during the hiatus > because the money simply isn't there. Does anyone know if Fruvous still has > a record deal? I know they put out "C" by themselves, but that kind of > release takes $$$, and maybe without any touring revenue the money just > isn't there. How much did they spend to put out the Indie tape and then got it back? I'm sure they got the money back since the CD was manufactured in Canada and sold for $15/american a piece in the US during the May - September 2000 tour dates. It's still sold on maplemusic.com. (where it's cheaper now in US funds than it was in 2000) http://www.maplemusic.com/artists/mox/disc.asp Maybe there aren't any releases during the hiatus because they wanted a "break." Hence the meaning of hiatus. > Does anybody else besides myself think that by now there should have been > some kind of announcement from the band, their management or their web site > about what their plans might be? How about a minor redesign of the web > site? The web site wasn't even redesigned when "C" came out, and the design > of that CD was wonderful. There are announcements on the web page to what is going on. They made a song "Huge on the Luge" at Christmas time that was available on mp3 to download and the fruhead songs are being released about once a month from the old fruhead card awards (1996-97 tour). The site redesign would have to be taken up with the site webmaster, Chris O (the page isn't run by Fruvous' management). I'm sure the site hasn't been redesigned because that takes loads of time to do (making a new graphic, changing the front page etc.) and he might not have the time to do it. I don't blame him - I can't even keep up with my pages and updating them. I still have fruvous photos from 1998 to scan. (yup Drea, I'll do it soon! I promise! *g*) The CD design was nice, but some of us didn't think that the contents of it was worth $15 for the disc. That is the least of the played Fruvous CDs I own since buying it in May 2000 - 3 times tops. Christine. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 11:22:46 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... Todd Evans wrote: > I feel like I read once in early 2001 they were still rehearsing, but since > then I can't seem to find that article. Maybe I dreamed it. : ) Or maybe > they were rehearsing for the Frucon IV show. In early 2001 that is exactly what they were doing. They would have certainly rehearsed prior to the Opera House show. As of this last February, however they were still meeting. That doesn't mean that anything is imminent obviously, but it does mean that there still is an entity called Moxy Fruvous. For now, that is all we know. > At least I got a spirited discussion going, huh? : ) Amen to that! I think if anyone sounds defensive, it is just an attempt to get someone to argue with them so that we will have more discussion! :) A.J. - -- Since 9/11 it is apparently unpatriotic to level even humorous criticism at our fearless "leader". All my sources of good Bushisms have dried up. Humor: Yet another victim of terror. :( Email:aj@locicero.org ICQ: 13117113 AIM: locicero For some of the best Long Distance and Calling Card rates around visit http://www.ld.net/?sensible. Cheap rates and *I* get a commission! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 14:12:44 +0100 From: Ross Hendry Subject: Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 13:53:04 +0100, StarflashJ wrote: > > Not to be a downer........... but are we sure that Fruvous is even going > to be coming back? I think they're great and I will keep waiting but > fans lose interest this way...... it feels like it's been a long time > since we've heard anything from them as a group. > > Just wondering > Jen > I don't you're being a downer, just looking at the situation logically. The lads presumably took a break because they were fed up with the current situation and wanted to try other things. Now that they've dipped their toes into other areas why would they want to go back to something that had ended up wearing them down? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see them re-emerge, better than ever but I suspect it'll take a while. Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 16:53:54 GMT From: "Todd Evans" Subject: Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... Oops - my bad. I didn't realize that the web-site DID use the "C" art for a time in 2000. I discovered the band in January 2001, so I didn't know that. Todd "Todd Evans" wrote in message news:s%jK8.226$Ct6.213@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net... > Brent, > > I think this is an excellent question. I too have wondered why no one seems > to be concerned that Fruvous is squandering the tremendous amount of > momentum gained in the few years preceding the hiatus. > > My guess is that there have been no Fruvous releases during the hiatus > because the money simply isn't there. Does anyone know if Fruvous still has > a record deal? I know they put out "C" by themselves, but that kind of > release takes $$$, and maybe without any touring revenue the money just > isn't there. > > Does anybody else besides myself think that by now there should have been > some kind of announcement from the band, their management or their web site > about what their plans might be? How about a minor redesign of the web > site? The web site wasn't even redesigned when "C" came out, and the design > of that CD was wonderful. > > Any thoughts? > Todd > > > "Brent Miller" wrote in message > news:a2558049.0206011122.277ec396@posting.google.com... > > My question is... > > "Why doesn't Fruvous put out a record during the hiatus?" > > > > I'm not talking about going into the studio and producing something > > new-that would defeat the purpose of a hiatus. I'm talking about > > remastering existing material for release. I would guess that that > > would take minimal involvement by the band AND it would keep Moxy > > Fruvous on the radio and sustain interest in the band during this long > > break. > > > > I've got to think that a second live record would be the easiest thing > > to do, followed by alternate/unused versions of songs, possibly an all > > the Fruhead record or even live covers. Surely the vault must be full > > of high quality live recording and out takes. > > > > Of course, this comes from the perspective of a working stiff-no work, > > no money. But I would be up for a 2 year vacation if anyone's offering > > to support me. > > > > Brent > > > > ______________ > > Brent Miller > > zone5@attbi.com > > http://home.attbi.com/~zone5/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:57:42 GMT From: "Todd Evans" Subject: Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... > and note that the original post said nothing about squandering time. however, > Todd does make a good point with that - they have built up a large fan base > and a lot of energy and enthusiasm surrounding their live show, especially > within the three years leading up to the hiatus. Thank you, Lawrence, for understanding what I meant. I meant no disrespect to the band (or the fruvous.com folks) with my original post, and there's no need for anyone to get defensive. I just think it's time they threw us a bone. I realize that a couple of the lads have made mention in various interviews in the early part of 2001 that the band would eventually re-group, but it's been a long time since we've heard anything like that. And we haven't heard from Mike Ford at all. > I also saw, in an interview > with one of them, I think, that they are still getting together regularly - if > for no other reason than to just keep themselves from getting too far > detatched from things so when/if they do come back, they'll be able to pick up > much more quickly, rather than having to completely relearn everything they > spent 8 years developing and refining. I feel like I read once in early 2001 they were still rehearsing, but since then I can't seem to find that article. Maybe I dreamed it. : ) Or maybe they were rehearsing for the Frucon IV show. At least I got a spirited discussion going, huh? : ) Todd "lawrence solomon" wrote in message news:3CFABD96.1EA98AC2@fruhead.com... > **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** > > "@*_*@ Chris K" wrote: > > > > I think this is an excellent question. I too have wondered why no one seems > > > to be concerned that Fruvous is squandering the tremendous amount of > > > momentum gained in the few years preceding the hiatus. > > > > I don't think they are squandering it. Haven't you heard that Jian has a show on > > CBC Newsworld, Murray has another project/Band (the Lesters) that play in > > Toronto, Mike is teaching and Dave released his own CD? That's not squandering > > time. > > and note that the original post said nothing about squandering time. however, > Todd does make a good point with that - they have built up a large fan base > and a lot of energy and enthusiasm surrounding their live show, especially > within the three years leading up to the hiatus. > > > Maybe there aren't any releases during the hiatus because they wanted a "break." > > Hence the meaning of hiatus. > > well, it depends on who you ask. I've heard it referred to as both a general > "hiatus" and specifically as a "touring hiatus." I also saw, in an interview > with one of them, I think, that they are still getting together regularly - if > for no other reason than to just keep themselves from getting too far > detatched from things so when/if they do come back, they'll be able to pick up > much more quickly, rather than having to completely relearn everything they > spent 8 years developing and refining. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > http://www.usenet.com > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:48:23 GMT From: "Todd Evans" Subject: Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... > As of this last February, however they > were still meeting. That doesn't mean that anything is imminent obviously, but > it does mean that there still is an entity called Moxy Fruvous. For now, that > is all we know. Cool. That's all I needed to hear. : ) Todd "A.J. LoCicero" wrote in message news:3CFB5187.EA6A0BB5@locicero.org... Todd Evans wrote: > I feel like I read once in early 2001 they were still rehearsing, but since > then I can't seem to find that article. Maybe I dreamed it. : ) Or maybe > they were rehearsing for the Frucon IV show. In early 2001 that is exactly what they were doing. They would have certainly rehearsed prior to the Opera House show. As of this last February, however they were still meeting. That doesn't mean that anything is imminent obviously, but it does mean that there still is an entity called Moxy Fruvous. For now, that is all we know. > At least I got a spirited discussion going, huh? : ) Amen to that! 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FredL. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:44:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Lynne Subject: article link Was: Re: Why doesn't Fruvous... http://www.jianghomeshi.com/jian_natlpost_011902.html someone else asked for the link to the article I talked about.... in case you're curious! :) - -lynne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:01:05 -0400 From: "Lisa Mejias / Dame Music" Subject: Murray and Dave Hello y'all, Just a bit of Fruvous news. Murray will be playing bass with Martina on CBC's Music Works. Not sure when it airs, but check the site for more information (http://ottawa.cbc.ca/musicworks/). Dave will be opening for the Supers on Friday, July 12 at Hugh's Room (Dundas and Bloor) in Toronto. Time for a road trip..don't you think? ;) ROCK ON! 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Powered by: emailstimulator.com ( http://www.emailstimulator.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 15:59:52 EDT From: Shellyus@aol.com Subject: theory of who broke FHDC well...in the past, we blamed norg and lawrence. or a combination of the two... mebbe it was we miserable bitches that did it, lor. anyone have a purple hardhat layin around? shell {who is -clearly- posting just to amuse herself and lori} ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 17:23:29 EDT From: Shellyus@aol.com Subject: FHDC baaack!! ok...so FHDC is back up and running{at leats when i just tried again it was} and both norg's AND lawrence's names are on the recent users list..... hrrmmmmm...who do we blame? shell the infamous vice president miserable bitches, inc camp fruvous chapter ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V6 #143 ********************************************