From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V5 #331 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, December 9 2001 Volume 05 : Number 331 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: jian and other musician/celebrities/his point ["Chris K @*_*@" Subject: Re: jian and other musician/celebrities/his point lynne wrote: > Jian's a pretty decent person. Chrissie would I be > misinterpretting the use of the word f*ck as anger? Yes, I think you are. :) I think some took what I said a tad[1] bid too seriously. In "my point" since Jian has his, I don't really care or was waiting to hear what he had to say. It never even crossed my mind about Jian since any of this happened. I was waiting more for what my boss had to say since my place of employment (a bank) has thousands and thousands of loans in the boroughs and near ground zero. My first thoughts since September 11th: What do we do when a person calls to tell us the mortgagor has died in the WTC? Will collections be calling them? How do we hold off until they can pay their loans? What do you when your department handles transfers of title due to death and see all these death certificates? Are our co-ops still standing near the WTC? We have 10,000 loans escrowed for hazard insurance that were declared disaster zones. NYC and NJ Cops calling us to say that they were sorry they couldn't get back to us sooner but they were working Ground Zero - and then going on with a story on the phone about the only way they knew they found a person was because a "shoe" was attached to the body. So, yeah, Jian's "point" was the last on my mind. > I'm pretty positive that > Jian has no > desire to alienate his fans. I'm pretty sure that he > thinks their opinions > are up to them. I am pretty sure that he wants fans > who can have a intelligent conversation about the > different views. I hope he doesn't. But sometimes I think he shoots off his mouth and then rubs the fans in the wrong way not knowing what he is doing. I remember a speech he made at FruCon II - some people took offense to it. (and he was rambling so I don't remember what exactly was said, I think I tuned him out.) But I remember feeling like I wanted to walk out of the con. > Keep in mind, as was pointed out to me, that the piece > was written by a > Canadian, in a Canadian paper for a largely Canadain audience. But remember, Jian was born in England and is not Canadian by birth. That shouldn't make any difference, but this NG gets picky with little details so I felt I should mention that. ;) > (Not just > for fruvous or jian fans) Maybe I'm too optimistic > but would it be such a > bad thing if the canadians ho might have only one view of > us Americans > read that a fellow Canadian saw a different picture? Donna, the english teacher, made a point about the typo. I won't bring attention to it. =) > I like him, I support him, I like to read what he > writes... I'm not asking anyone else to. And that was a nice post, Lynne. :) It was handled so much nicer than "Fuck you!" at the end. Lynne gets a Christmas cookie. :) Christine. [1] That would be the word "tad" not "Chad" or "chad" for those of you who were reading this while tired. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V5 #331 ********************************************