From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #388 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, September 20 2000 Volume 04 : Number 388 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Globe and Mail [Queen Lisa ] re: Whatever the hippie angstfest was called before some browser messed it up [gewica@aol.com ] A GREAT PRODUCT TO HELP YOUR MIND--ALL NATURAL [easyminds@theol.unizh.ch] Re: Globe and Mail [Melanie ] Re: re: Whatever the hippie angstfest was called before some browser messed it up [Melanie ] Moxy on Adventures in Radio ["Scott O.Moore" ] Re: Ultimate MP3 Site-New Site of the week [Jure Sah Subject: Globe and Mail Imagine my surprise when, after boarding my bus this morning, i opened my paper to find Jian's wonderful article! What a great start to my academic day. lisa Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 2000 08:50:32 GMT From: gewica@aol.com (GeWiCa) Subject: re: Whatever the hippie angstfest was called before some browser messed it up >> Anyway, I wonder why it is that everybody on the "*yawn* this >is so >> boring" side of this thread is somebody I know, and everybody >on >> the "I'm right 'cause I said so!" side is somebody I've never >even >> heard of. I thought you didn't know Siobhan. I don't know any of you but that won't stop me from expressing my opinions. 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Everyone should be like me, but then so few could actually attain it. melanie ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 2000 10:14:09 EDT From: Amanda.K.Potter@Dartmouth.EDU (Amanda K. Potter) Subject: Re: Globe and Mail - --- Melanie wrote: what article? Can you point us to a website or copy the article to the newsgroup? - --- end of quote --- The article is just a slightly-reworked version of Jian's second column from his website. I can't seem to copy the link here, but if you go to www.globeandmail.com, and search for Ghomeshi, it turns up. I apologize if this has already been posted 14 times... I think there's a backup in the gateway. Anyway, happy reading! Amanda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:35:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Lynne Subject: Article from the globeandmail.com Web Centre - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The Globe and Mail, Monday, September 18, 2000 Canuckism: How to beat the Yanks at their own game By Jian Ghomeshi TORONTO -- Canadian artists should cut the humble act. Enough nobility. Let's trade in some of our innocence for cold Yankee cash. Let's use American ignorance about us to make some real money. As a singer-songwriter in the pop group Moxy Fruvous, I've become no stranger to travelling North America's highways over the past five years. And one thing that I've learned while touring in the United States is that it's high time Canadian entertainers got crass. We need to establish a new nationalism in the cultural realm. But please, nothing too earnest, flag-waving or heartfelt. I'm talking about a much more Machiavellian blueprint. I suggest the exploitation of our vague Canadian identity for our own careerist ends. That's right. Use convenient Canuckism to milk the U.S. market. Oh sure, it's cynical. This is Canada in the new millennium, baby. And I have a very American proposal, if you'll let me explain. Last fall, my bandmates and I made our U.S. network television debut on the Late Night with Conan O'Brien show in New York. This was quite a thrill for an eclectic little group from Toronto. It was a meagre five minutes of American airtime on the far side of midnight but we revelled in the stardom of the moment. We returned home with our swank new Late Night sweatshirts and the satisfaction of having made hundreds of calls to people across Canada from the backstage phone at NBC (the network bookkeepers may just be learning this). Unfortunately, to the apparent dismay of many of my friends, I didn't really have the chance to befriend Mr. O'Brien. Few people seem to realize that the point at which the host walks over to the musical guests and shakes hands on these programs is pretty much the extent of any interaction that occurs. But he did offer some interesting words in the brief minute that we met. As the show went to commercial, Conan joked with us that our group was part of the new "Canadian invasion" of America. It was a fun comment made in the jocular spirit of the moment. But it struck me later that, as seductive as it was to hear the phrase "Canadian invasion" coming out of a prominent American's mouth, I don't know what it means. Conan was likely referring to the growing eminence of Canadian musical artists in the U.S. market (not to mention our success in comedy, film, television, literature and many other cultural areas). But what does the "Canadian invasion" truly mean? It's not as if there's a choreographed plan of attack to export our artists and capture the U.S. market. Moreover, if the famed British invasion of the Sixties was characterized by a certain sound and look, ours doesn't share such uniformity. I've been scrambling to identify the nexus between my group, Celine Dion and Our Lady Peace and I'm having a tough time establishing any commonality (it's certainly not our music or, um, sales figures). The only trait that we all seem to share is that we're Canadian. And come to think of it, that's a great angle to draw attention to us in the claustrophobic American-led entertainment industry. I had a similar thought at a gig at Stanford University in California. A small sect of Canadian students amid the assembled throng cheered my mention of Shreddies from the stage (a delicacy not available in the United States). The majority of Americans in the crowd were beguiled, amused and seemed to want in on the action. Upon meeting with some of the Canadians after the show, I realized that our similarities were entirely superficial. We were bonding over a breakfast cereal, for God's sake. And yet this was enough to make us exotic to the American audience. Look, I'm not dumping on Canada. I'm proud of the remaining vestiges of our universal health-care system, our social-welfare state and the comparative safety of our urban streets. Anyone who's seen my band perform in America knows that we wear our Canuck roots loudly and proudly. But beyond medicare -- and other "sacred trusts" endlessly under attack by our neo-conservative political leaders -- what do Canadians outside of Quebec have before resorting to hockey, beer and vinegar on our french fries to differentiate us from our American counterparts? The sad reality is that I've discovered that Americans aren't very different from us. I know, it's humiliating. I've been on the front lines of demonizing those gun-toting Yanks for years. Yet after touring the continent a few times I've come to the conclusion that lots of Americans remind me of, well, Canadians -- and vice versa. Most of them are good humans. And there are often more divisions across the many regions of Canada than, say, between the people of Toronto and Philadelphia or Edmonton and Seattle. We're just not that different as people. Of course, we don't need to let the Americans know that. Here is my three-pronged prescription for a concerted Canadian cultural advance on America: 1. Get over the inferiority complex: The only time my band has heard the criticism "too Canadian" for American tastes is from Canadian critics. They're wrong, and our career proves it. If R.E.M. can write about their experiences in Athens, Ga., and U2 can sing about Dublin, why can't we write about Oshawa, Ont.? Being Canadian is exactly as sexy as we tell the Americans it is. 2. Use American ignorance about our identity to our advantage: Think about it, if we are vague on what it means to be Canadian, most U.S. citizens have no idea. Tell them we're all erudite scholars, polar-bear hunters or skateboarding punks, if you can use it to your benefit. 3. Pretend we're a distinct society: For many Americans, being Canadian is tantamount to being Norwegian or Algerian. We're foreign animals to be discovered, dissected and celebrated. We don't need to remind them that we live across the river from Detroit. You see, we Canadians aren't always clear on what makes us unique and binds this country together. It doesn't appear to be much. But whatever it is, we can use it to plunder the U.S. market and bring some Yankee dollars home. We can buoy our economy and gain continental respect in the process. How? We just need to pretend that being Canadian is something exotic -- and then snicker while the Americans buy into it. Jian Ghomeshi is a Toronto-based musician, producer and writer who aspires to be considered exotic and Canadian. Arts Argument is a weekly forum on cultural issues. Readers are encouraged to respond to published pieces and to submit their own essays, by mail, e-mail (artsarg@globeandmail.ca). - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright 2000 | The Globe and Mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:22:05 GMT From: "Scott O.Moore" Subject: Moxy on Adventures in Radio Greetings Fruheads, This is a reminder to check out Adventures in Radio, an Internet radio station offering a crazy and eclectic mix of tunes in streaming MP3 for your listening enjoyment. You can find it at http://www.slammedia.com/music/ . The reason I thought you folks might find this station interesting is that I have been a HUGE Moxy fan for years and years, and now that I'm programming Internet radio, I'm taking the opportunity to program a huge amount of their music into the mix. The entire premise of the Adventures in Radio station is that it is a genre-busting megamix of songs that spans a rather wide range of modern music, and included in that megamix are every last one of the Moxy Fruvous albums, up to and including "The C Album." I first saw Moxy in Chicago during their "Bargainville" tour, at the request of a friend from NYC who figured I'd love them. We danced our happy asses off, and a good friend of mine got pulled on stage to be the King of Spain; although he didn't know the words, it was certainly sporting of them to let him dance around on stage the whole song. At the end of the show, they came offstage into the house and sang "Gulf War Song" without microphones, and I was hooked. Listening to Moxy over the years has been an inspiration for me. It's a lot of fun picking Moxy Fruvous songs for the megamix station, and that's why I thought I would mention it here. So far, people are really enjoying Adventures in Radio. We're playing a wide range of modern & old school rock, pop, techno, trip hop, and more: Moxy Fruvous, Tori Amos, Peter Gabriel, PJ Harvey, Radiohead, Massive Attack, Afro Celt Sound System, Lauryn Hill, Parliament/Funkadelic, TMBG, Kruder & Dorfmeister, Miles Davis, Bjork, Erik B. & Rakim, the Orb, UNKLE, Cibo Matto, the Art of Noise, FSOL, Portishead, Woob, Bill Laswell & his thousands of projects, practically the whole Ninja Tunes catalog, and a lot more. Much of it is music you'll probably recognize, but scattered all throughout the mix are a lot of unexpected tracks from some unexpected places. We've also launched Modern Acappella, a station devoted to - as the name so eloquently implies - modern acappella music of all stripes. Every single acappella Moxy track is in rotation on this station; if you've ever wondered how well Moxy's acappella stuff holds up against groups that do nothing but acappella, the answer is... Moxy kicks ass! But so do a lot of these other groups, so if you've never listened to what people are doing with acappella these days, check it out - also available at http://www.slammedia.com/music/ . It's very much been a labor of love to get these stations online. I do hope you enjoy them; give us a listen, and let us know what you think! Thanks muchly, Scotto - -- SLAM Media - http://www.slammedia.com "We may be crazy, but that doesn't mean we're not insane, dammit." Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:05:55 +0200 From: Jure Sah Subject: Re: Ultimate MP3 Site-New Site of the week This is getting unbearable. news:alt.music.m* is getting this rather unrelated(1) message just about every day. * = [Anything] (1) = Not on subject to anything except news:alt.music.mp3. Here is also an entire header that was requested: Path: planja.arnes.si!kanja.arnes.si!news-hub.siol.net!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news2.kpn.net!news.kpn.net!cleanfeed.casema.net!news.casema.net!not-for-mail From: "Patrick van der Ent" Newsgroups: alt.music.modern, alt.music.modern-rock, alt.music.mods, alt.music.moffatts, alt.music.mogwai, alt.music.monaco, alt.music.monkees, alt.music.moody-blues, alt.music.morcheeba, alt.music.morrissey, alt.music.motorhead, alt.music.moxy-fruvous, alt.music.mp3 Subject: Ultimate MP3 Site-New Site of the week Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:23:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C01F52.C3FD2360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Lines: 66 Message-ID: <39c269b3$0$22316@reader3> NNTP-Posting-Host: 7dyn55.dh.casema.net X-Trace: reader3 969042355 22316 212.64.7.55 X-Complaints-To: http://www.casema.net/abuse X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to include a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Server-Date: 15 Sep 2000 18:25:55 GMT Xref: planja.arnes.si alt.music.modern:40 alt.music.modern-rock:10100 alt.music.mods:14699 alt.music.moffatts:27842 alt.music.mogwai:2467 alt.music.monaco:4 alt.music.monkees:49969 alt.music.moody-blues:17593 alt.music.morcheeba:620 alt.music.morrissey:19302 alt.music.motorhead:63 alt.music.moxy-fruvous:44018 alt.music.mp3:142692 Here is the message: > Patrick van der Ent wrote: > > THERE IS A NEW SITE OF THE WEEK > go check it out. > > > * And offcourse there is lots more like > * MP3's > * MP3 charts > * MP3 Startingpage, software. > * Weird site > * And Links to artists official websites. > * Give me your site of the week > > So go have a look. > > > $$$$$$If you want to make some real cash go > to:http://happy.as/amillionaire - -- You have to take things for what they ARE. GTSC4 -- If nobody else wants to do it, why shouldn't we?(TM) Http://www.geocities.com/gtsc4/index.html We're in the United Programers We're also in the United Trackers: Http://www.united-trackers.org ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 2000 23:30:26 GMT From: piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO) Subject: Re: OT: hey NYCers!!! listen up! Another cool NYC happening at the Mercury Lounge is on Friday night... Andrew Bird's playing but I'm plugging the other act, Dolly Varden. They're from Chicago... and they did open for Fruvous once... in St. Louis... many years ago... :):) So check them out and talk to them afterwards, they're very sweet and funny! Tell 'em I said hi! www.dollyvarden.com www.mercuryloungenyc.com for more details! Angel ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 2000 01:21:18 GMT From: mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie) Subject: Re: Moxy on Adventures in Radio I tried this at work, and it really is pretty cool. I usually ignore spams (if this is technically a spam) but I thought I'd give it a shot. So yeah. Try it. "By a stream of running water, I heard you laugh. I closed my eyes for an hour and a half, and tried to make you appear. I swear in the beauty of the setting sun, you were here." ~Moxy Fruvous~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:44:30 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Moxy on Adventures in Radio Spake mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie): >I usually ignore spams (if >this is technically a spam) Not at all -- it's right on topic, and nobody's (in my experience with this radio thing) trying to extort any money. :) - -v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "What comes from within is trustworthy." -- M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:45:14 GMT From: brent_miller@my-deja.com Subject: FruCon4 shirt help needed Hello all, Marianne and I are in the middle of the FruCon4 shirt design. This year, we want to put close-up photos (illustrations) of the lads on the shirt. Unfortunately, to date, we don't have any good close-up photos to use as reference. 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