From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #345 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, August 10 2000 Volume 04 : Number 345 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Evil Jian Dreams [fruomffan@diganet.com (Cara Kozack)] Re: Solo release [Robert Brunell ] Re: OT: philly folk [Ellen ] Question about CBS Sunday Morning [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: I love my job!!! [spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1)] Re: Question about CBS Sunday Morning [FruCake1@aol.com] Re: Solo release [FruCake1@aol.com] Re: Canadians are smarter (slightly off-topic) ["Sigrid, the only FruSmur] Re: I love my job!!! [pepper7433@my-deja.com] Recording industry suit [Super Dave ] Re: Solo release [Chad Maloney ] Re: CBS Sunday Morning review ["Timothy P.McMackin" ] Re: Sunday Morning! [affannat@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Kelly D Affannato)] Heatseeker Boy ["Randall Prince" ] Re: Recording industry suit [Paul Mischler : > > >Ellen wrote: >> chad@radix.net wrote: >> >> >I got the same letters when I started to let my hair grow >> >out[1]! >> >> > Should I be on the lookout for any of them down here? >> >> y'know, chad, i wasn't going to mention this, but a few weeks >> ago, someone in a seersucker suit wearing a really fake-looking >> wig rang my doorbell and asked me for directions to annapolis. >> i didn't think anything about it at the time, but... > >eek! I'm being stalked by Dave-o? >good thing I've been cat-sitting and not at home of late! >I'll have to be on the lookout and see if anyone else has come >south for a stalking. I wasn't going to say anything but a few days ago I got an unmarked package containing a match, a calculator, and a seismograph. The scary think was it was cross adressed to 2361 other people all across the world...should we be scared? - -- Cara Kozack It's a reference to a _____ that you've never even heard of by\in\on a _____ that you probably don't even like! fruomffan@diganet.com www.crosswinds.net/~fruomffan ICQ: 56416421 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 08:32:01 -0400 From: Robert Brunell Subject: Re: Solo release I'm excited about Dave's solo release and I'm looking forward to listening to it. However, there are a few questions which nobody has asked yet, so I'll ask them: - Is this material Dave didn't want to share with the band? - Is this material the band wasn't interested in? - Does this have any implications for the continued existance of Moxy Fruvous? An excited and nervous Frufan, Robert FruCake1@aol.com wrote: > Hello everyone, > If you haven't been to MPG.com lately you probably don't know that Dave will > be coming out with a solo CD this fall. I'll be adding soundbites once I get > the CD from Dave, but for now just think about how many copies you're going > to buy. ;) > > I guess Dave and Jian (managing Martina) are going to be quite busy during > the hiatus. Good for them!! > > Spread the word!! > Lisa Bills > http://www.mypoorgeneration.com > http://www.gojian.com/ji-spot ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 06:47:59 -0700 From: Ellen Subject: Re: OT: philly folk bodaceah@aol.com (Bodaceah) wrote: >mainstages are as follows. >FRIDAY: Bacon Brothers, Craobh Rua, Harmonia, Patty Larkin, > Oscar Lopez, Katrina & Nerissa Nields, Sharon Bram & Friends > SATURDAY: Eric Bibb, John Gorka, Inti Illimani, Moving Cloud, > Nickel Creek, Utah Phillips >SUNDAY: Mike Gross, Eddie From Ohio, Entrain, John Hammond, Mad > Pudding, Saw Doctors, Rosalie Sorrels does it say that that's the order they'll go on? the website says that they're not listed in any particular order. that was the info i was looking for. peace, ellen - ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 2000 14:00:35 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Question about CBS Sunday Morning In one scene, Dave is wearing this awesome seersucker suit that he wore at the Birchmere (at least, Fruprincess Dana said he was) ... she wanted to know if that clip was taped at the show we were at, or did he wear said suit at another show? I realize this is way out there in terms of relevance but we were wondering ... QL and FPD ------------------------------ Date: 08 Aug 2000 17:55:29 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: Re: I love my job!!! Ask Lori. She knows all. (beer) je touche le requin dans le tourbillon mechanique au l'aquarium immense moment de frisson doux et ridicule - -Mike Ford (hehe) Gella ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:58:50 EDT From: FruCake1@aol.com Subject: Re: Question about CBS Sunday Morning In a message dated 8/9/00 10:43:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bbwminors@aol.com writes: << In one scene, Dave is wearing this awesome seersucker suit that he wore at the Birchmere (at least, Fruprincess Dana said he was) ... she wanted to know if that clip was taped at the show we were at, or did he wear said suit at another show? I realize this is way out there in terms of relevance but we were wondering ... >> That was the Irving Plaza show (the day after the Mays Landing one.) Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:57:28 EDT From: FruCake1@aol.com Subject: Re: Solo release Robert.Brunell@bms.com writes and I'll *try* to answer them: << - Is this material Dave didn't want to share with the band?>> I don't think it's a matter of Dave "holding out" on the band. Once you hear it you'll see for yourself. << - Is this material the band wasn't interested in?>> That I don't know. Dave is an artist and isn't a true artist constantly creating? << - Does this have any implications for the continued existance of Moxy Fruvous?> Remember that they do have breaks throughout the year. Actually, that's when Dave performed Sarah Slean's "Habit" this past January in Toronto. I'm sure this didn't help much, but hopefully it lessened your worries a bit. :P I personally am VERY excited about this. He's going to kick some major ass!!! Lisa Bills -spreading the word!! :) http://www.mypoorgeneration.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:09:25 EDT From: "Sigrid, the only FruSmurf" Subject: Re: Canadians are smarter (slightly off-topic) I *knew* I knew the name from somewhere, but I couldn't figure out from where. Thanks Nafs. BTW, nice email addy. Sigrid - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Nafs To: ammf@fruvous.com Subject: Re: Canadians are smarter (slightly off-topic) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:48:03 -0400 Cameron Ross wrote: > "Which of the following is not a Pokemon" > a) pikachu > b) squirtle > c) jiggypuff > d) frodo > > the person used a lifeline to call an english teacher, > and ended up having to walk. Wait wait wait... an ENGLISH TEACHER didn't know that Frodo is from the Lord of the Rings sequence? What *do* they teach children nowadays? Nafs - -------- "There are no secret videos." Murray 31-10-98 http://frucon.tripod.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:06:37 GMT From: pepper7433@my-deja.com Subject: Re: I love my job!!! That sounds pretty standard. One of the funniest riders I ever read was Graham Parker's solo rider where it requests: "1 bottle dry white wine (pref French or Italian) on ice 1 bottle dry (brut) champagne on ice (or 2 bottles of dry white wine if champagne too expensive--i.e. if ticket sales are crap)" Who says all musicians have huge egos? Pepper In article , Lynne wrote: > It's all int he rider... local beer, usually..hummus... turkey, > water..it's cute- how healthy they are..ok, maybe beer isn't *that* > healthy... > -Lynne > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: 08 Aug 2000 01:52:37 GMT > From: MoxyOne22 > To: ammf@fruvous.com > Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous > Subject: I love my job!!! > > We just signed the contract with 'Grape Jam' at work... My assignment (if I > choose to except it) is to provide the performers with some accommodations > backstage. Since this includes Fruvous, I was wondering what they may > appreciate waiting for them... > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:29:36 -0500 From: Super Dave Subject: Recording industry suit Someone's finally suing the record companies! It's about time. http://www.msnbc.com/news/443392.asp?bt=nm&btu=http://www.msnbc.com/tools/newstools/d/news_menu.asp&cp1=1 (This is a long link, so be sure to copy all of it) David - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We must love each other or die." --W. H. Auden "When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." --Mahatma Gandhi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:24:43 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Solo release Robert Brunell wrote: > > I'm excited about Dave's solo release and I'm looking forward to listening to > it. However, there are a few questions which nobody has asked yet, so I'll ask > them: > > - Is this material Dave didn't want to share with the band? Dave is an incredible musician. I'm sure he has more composition in his bones than the group that is Moxy Fruvous can stand (that goes for Fordy also). > - Is this material the band wasn't interested in? *shrug*. I'd guess not. But who knows. > - Does this have any implications for the continued existance of > Moxy Fruvous? I think your guess is as good as anyone elses here. But to me, a solo album will let Dave express himself the way he wants, and if his role in Moxy Fruvous is reflected even slightly in that, then I can't wait. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 19:51:49 GMT From: "Timothy P.McMackin" Subject: Re: CBS Sunday Morning review I suspected this. They have an apparently professional-quality video, but choose to give it to their big fans instead of sell it at $30 a pop. Aggressive "skimming" marketing strategy or respect for fans? You decide. Tim In article <398DA7E8.607E5089@backstreetboys.com>, Nafs wrote: > "Timothy P. McMackin" wrote: > > > And is there anywhere we can buy the videos of King, Authors, and Hold > > On that they showed? I confess I was unaware of their existence. > > Can't seem to find them for sale online, and of course FDC would have > > something about them if they were available. If it's not available, > > time to put out a DVD or VHS album, guys! > > Way way back, many centuries ago.. um. yeah. Anyway, when the original > Fruhead card was around, one of the prizes was a collection of Fruvous > videos (some of which included Get in the Car, some of which did not > depending on the timing). That's the closest they've come to selling > them. > However, the videos all get shown at FruCon - this past year they looped > on a TV set up just for those who hadn't seen them. > > FYI the videos include KOS, Authors, Stuck in the '90s, Down from Above, > Fly, Get in the Car, IWHO and Sad Girl. > > Nafs > > ------ > "There are no secret videos." Murray 31-10-98 > http://frucon.tripod.com > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:25:56 EDT From: CLeast18@aol.com Subject: Re: CBS Sunday Morning (and something else) Speaking of the CBS show, I'm just wondering about the ones who taped the it, how many times have you watched it? Just being curious! ~Michala ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:10:02 EDT From: FruCake1@aol.com Subject: Re: Solo release In a message dated 8/9/00 3:43:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Chad@fruvous.com writes: << I think your guess is as good as anyone elses here. But to me, a solo album will let Dave express himself the way he wants, and if his role in Moxy Fruvous is reflected even slightly in that, then I can't wait. >> I couldn't have said it better myself. Right on!! :D Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:02:31 GMT From: lupin@REMOVETHISbitey.net (Adam Prestin) Subject: Re: Solo release Robert.Brunell@bms.com (Robert Brunell) wrote in <39914F40.4C86B9CE@bms.com>: >I'm excited about Dave's solo release and I'm looking forward to >listening to it. However, there are a few questions which nobody has >asked yet, so I'll ask them: > > - Is this material Dave didn't want to share with the band? > - Is this material the band wasn't interested in? > - Does this have any implications for the continued existance of Moxy > Fruvous? > >An excited and nervous Frufan, >Robert > >FruCake1@aol.com wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> If you haven't been to MPG.com lately you probably don't know that >> Dave will be coming out with a solo CD this fall. I'll be adding >> soundbites once I get the CD from Dave, but for now just think about >> how many copies you're going to buy. ;) >> >> I guess Dave and Jian (managing Martina) are going to be quite busy >> during the hiatus. Good for them!! >> >> Spread the word!! >> Lisa Bills >> http://www.mypoorgeneration.com >> http://www.gojian.com/ji-spot People worry too much. in the three bands i'm listening to right now the most, aside from fruvous, two have performers who have done solo work. Ben folds of BFF, and pretty much everyone in phish. Trey did a solo tour (as has Dave matthews, albeit with another guitarist), and a few members of phish are in other groups. - -adam ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 2000 21:43:47 GMT From: saphiracat83@aol.com-remove- (SaphiraCat83) Subject: Re: CBS Sunday Morning (and something else) >Speaking of the CBS show, I'm just wondering about the ones who taped the it, > >how many times have you watched it? Just being curious! Um...only once. I wanted to go back and look for a couple people (i.e. my family and friends) but haven't gotten around to it yet. Wait...they have a professional quality video? Of the Fruvous thing? Who are they not offering it to? That's just wrong. - -Saph (Still not quite caught up on everything) *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* "If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands." - --Dirk Gently http://www.geocities.com/saphiracat *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 2000 21:15:56 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: CBS's response This is the e-mail I got from CBS: Thank you so much for writing to us. We're glad that you enjoyed the segment. (I enjoyed the segment, too, though I can't say that I've been to 27 of their concerts...) I've passed a copy of your email along to Rita Braver (the correspondent who interviewed Fruvous for the piece), as well as our executive producer. We work really hard here, and hearing compliments from the viewers is really gratifying. Please don't hesitate to write to us again if you have further comments about the show, or if we can be of assistance to you in any way. Thanks again for your kind words about the Moxy Fruvous piece, and thanks for watching the show. Sunday Morning >>> 08/06/00 08:55am >>> I just wanted to thank you for the segment on Moxy Fr�vous. Too often I've seen reporters reviewers and journalists just gloss over Fr�vous, comment briefly on the zanyness and completely miss the point. I thought your segment captured the essence of Fr�vous and Fr�Heads beautifully. Incidentally, I have been going to Fr�vous shows since August of '99 and have seen 27 live performances. I was at the Irving Plaza show you covered... sitting in the rain from noon till the doors opened at 8 or 9... I don't remember. Gella A.K.A. FruJuggla je touche le requin dans le tourbillon mechanique au l'aquarium immense moment de frisson doux et ridicule - -Mike Ford (hehe) Gella ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:02:51 -0400 From: Nafs Subject: Re: CBS Sunday Morning review "Timothy P. McMackin" wrote: > > I suspected this. They have an apparently professional-quality video, > but choose to give it to their big fans instead of sell it at $30 a > pop. Aggressive "skimming" marketing strategy or respect for fans? It was simply a collection of their music videos to date, not any sort of continuous video. Until I saw the collection at FruCon I, I had seen KoS and Stuck in the 90s so many times on Much Music it would make your head hurt, seen parts of Get in the Car... and that's it. Every single one of the videos is in the Much Music or MuchMore Music library and it's not Fr�vous' fault that Much became unenthusiastic about playing them. (Ok except for Down from Above. That's just disturbing) MuchMore Music has put both IWHO and Sad Girl into light/medium rotation. If you ask around there are Fr�heads who got the collection (it was the 15-show prize I think. A lot of people got it) and Canadian Fr�heads who have the last two on tape. Fiona "There are no secret videos" Murray 31-10-98 http://frucon.tripod.com - we're looking for new committee members! ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 2000 22:48:25 GMT From: affannat@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Kelly D Affannato) Subject: Re: Sunday Morning! Sigh! I just got an e-mail from Pat (gingee) telling me that not only had the CBS show aired, but that I had actually gotten some screen time! AARGH! I guess that's what I get for being incommunicado. - --->Kelly (Silver) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:00:55 GMT From: "Randall Prince" Subject: Heatseeker Boy Anyone here been working on the guitar tabs for Heatseeker Boy? I've been messing around but it's slow and I just started playing. Anyhelp anyone? Randy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:00:36 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Re: Recording industry suit Actually, this isn't the first lawsuit in this matter. This lawsuit is brought about by a coalition of 28 states Attorney Generals in response to a practice that prevents stores from selling CD's at a lower-than-agreed about price. This lawsuit falls on the heels of a no-fault settlement in federal court over the same issue. The Big Five (Time Warner's Warner Brother's Music Group, Sony Music Entertainment, Segram Co's. Universal music group, BMG, and EMI Group) are being sued over a practice called "Minimum Advertised Pricing". "Minimum Advertsied Pricing" is a practice which was _designed_ to help out smaller music stores. It works something like this: A store cannot advertise a particular CD at a price lower than X dollars, or the store faces losing it's advertising subsidy from the record companies. This was done so that huge stores could not set up "Loss Leaders", or CD's priced lower than cost to attract customers into the store who can then purchase other items like CD players, or other electronics equipment. Smaller stores, not having other products to sell, would not be able to compete in this kind of a market. The federal agreement (signed in may), the big five agreed to stop the MAP policy for 7 years. The FTC had been seeking $480 Million in damages. Of course, as you probably are all aware, the termination of the MAP policy has not decreased CD prices at all. In fact, they have risen since May. Just thought you might like to be aware of some of the crap that goes on behind the scenes in the music industry. - -Paul Mischler Remove the obvious portions in my e-mail address to reply. Super Dave wrote: > Someone's finally suing the record companies! It's about time. > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/443392.asp?bt=nm&btu=http://www.msnbc.com/tools/newstools/d/news_menu.asp&cp1=1 > ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #345 ********************************************