From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #310 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, July 26 2000 Volume 04 : Number 310 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 7-25- [jjrrutgers@aol.com (JJRRutgers)] Lyrics: Talking Falcon Ridge Tent Pole Blues [scoper ] Re: FRFF afterthoughts [Ellen ] Re: Top 5 Fruvous Songs [spychicr@aol.compoot (RAI-- Random Access Insani] gonna have a heapin' bowl of FrankenFood (Time magazine poll) [Lori Mart] Re: gonna have a heapin' bowl of FrankenFood (Time magazine poll) [Ellen ] Re: What Phrase [Ellen ] Fruvous Quotes ["Daancing Queen" ] Re: general favorite song quotes [Taylor Nelson ] Re: FRFF afterthoughts [Anna! ] Re: FRFF afterthoughts [Maggie ] Re: FRFF afterthoughts [trace@fruhead.com (Trace)] Semi OT: GBS (was: What Phrase) ["Daancing Queen" ] Re: Semi OT: GBS (was: What Phrase) [kyla ] Re: What Phrase [lawrence solomon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Jul 2000 17:37:25 GMT From: jjrrutgers@aol.com (JJRRutgers) Subject: Re: 7-25- The Dylan song Fordy did was "Lenny Bruce", which Dylan wrote for the movie of the same name. Lenny Bruce was a comedian back in the 50s and 60s who was ahead of his time by using profanity in his act at a time that it was taboo. I don't know the name of the Dylan song Daveo did though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:11:25 -0700 From: scoper Subject: Lyrics: Talking Falcon Ridge Tent Pole Blues Here are the lyrics to part 2 of the Killer Tents saga as performed at the "Songs of Woody Guthrie" workshop Falcon Ridge Folk Festival July 22, 2000 Talking Falcon Ridge Tent Pole Blues Now it wasn't too very long ago That folks was wandering to and fro Every summer weekend, answering the call A phonomenon known as the folk festival Wearing toe rings Tie Dyed Shirts And "Bring Back Dan Bern" buttons Slatherin' on the sunblock Running thru the fields Trying to get a glimpse of David Howard of The Nields Picking up a bus at the Contra Dance tent Rollin' up a hooley watching Iris Dement Places like Newport Here at Hillsdale Or even some guys Appel Farm in New Jersey Now if you didn't like hotels, or sleeping in the car There was always an accomodation quite above par Good for the kiddies, good for the lovers Folks trying to get Vance Gilbert under covers Talking about tents Real economical-like Wake up all sticky and sweaty in the morning Well history tells us that all changed The year the tents went all deranged Like some crazy film of Terry Gilliam's They're chewing up anyone named Dar Williams Tents turned evil Went on a rampage Ate lots of folks, but left that Mox-i-Fruv-i-ous feller Well the tents and Fruvous teamed up so well They created a faux-folks viewing cartel But they got real cranky playing high stakes games Some Fruvous tents started calling each other names Like Dorkapella Zipper Mouth And Bags of Mostly Water Well that love affair had lost it's smile Soon they were going at it Gladitor style To figure out who'd win doesn't take McGuyver It's on next week's version of Survivor Fruvous and the tents going head to head Dukin it out till one side's dead Fruvous beating their chests with pride But the tents got Marty Sexton on their side Big sideburns Piercing yodel Four deaf Canadians (not that no one could tell) Well a terrible bloodbath you know ensued And the tents consumed the entire Fruvous brood Sexton applying the barbecue dressing For what turned out to be a Hillsdale blessing Ahh, the tale turns around Like the latest Harry Potter or Welcome Back Cotter You see the moral of the story, we might say Is the tents were the good guys at the end of the day True, eating people may cause a sensation But it's a good way to regulate the festival population On a new Falcon Ridge millenium what the tents would ingest Were some posers that poisoned the fest A few Ani fans, John Gorka's kid The tents swallowed them whole, like an arachnid Finally got rid of that geriatric Spiderman Along with Meg Griffin And all that radio riffin So the next time you pass by a tent this year Clap your hands, stomp your feat Or just stand and cheer Make some noise, have a drink, raise a little hell Like you've just heard a third encore from Richard Shindell Lick the tarp, pull the zipper, massage that back pole Show the tent your excitement Go in the tent whole But before you get in there too deep always remember.. One way or another, it'll put you to sleep - ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:40:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Lynne Subject: Re: What Phrase Music is so much a part of my life, that every different event could have it's own lyric, that I notice... and replay.... Recently, I like: "Tell me how did we, ever let the situation get this far, maybe we should just try to hide the things we feel inside, things I know we can't deny." ~Jennifer Lopez - -lynne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:37:30 -0700 From: Ellen Subject: Re: FRFF afterthoughts Rachel R Beck wrote: >During the Woody Guthrie workshop, Fruvous did a sequel to > "Killer Tents" to the tune of Guthrie's "Talking Dust Bowl > Blues" this workshop was one of my favorite parts of FRFF this year. loud praise to whoever thought of it. i didn't go to as many workshops this year as i did last year; not as many interested me, i guess. it's tough to find a balance; last year there were main stage sets that i regretted missing. this year, i realize there were workshops i should have caught. i might be alone in feeling this way, but i was a little disappointed in fruvous's Tents Part 2 being part of the woody guthrie workshop. it was a bit of a letdown to me that fruvous chose to focus on their own humor instead of paying respect to guthrie in a *guthrie tribute* workshop (why agree to do a tribute workshop if you only want to do your own stuff?). the tent song would have fit in perfectly in the Tall Tales workshop, where they did Boss and Kids (2 songs that were both done on workshop stages last year anyway) instead. in retrospect, they did kind of the same thing last year, doing Boss and Killer Tents in the Non-Mushy Love Songs workshop. but that wasn't a tribute to anyone. promoting your own agenda in a tribute workshop is just kind of cheesy, IMO. i'm glad that they got a chance to do a second song, at which point they did a really nice rendition of Reuben James. until that point, i was feeling like it was the Killer Egos that were coming over the hill. i know this is a little harsh, but really. moxy fruvous is not infallible, and i think they let their image do a little too much of the talking in this case. peace, ellen - ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jul 2000 19:18:09 GMT From: spychicr@aol.compoot (RAI-- Random Access Insanity) Subject: Re: Top 5 Fruvous Songs After thinking about it (I was kinda rushed for a quote earlier, my friend was trying to get me to do something for her), I have changed my mind for my Favourite Früvous Phrase. It just came to me in a stroke of duh-ness earlier today. Anyway, I've decided that it is "The geezer with the beard and all the angels". I just love how Früvous slips in little things like that that are subtle but, when you think about them, make you crack up. Another example of this is "When you're played out as the world turns, you don't need soaps to clean your mind" and another is "whole loaf love." And all of these phrases are in what COULD be considered as relatively serious songs. Just another thing that makes me love Früvous more. --Rai --And the other computer's up and running! ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~* ~ This realization came to me: I am a teenybopper at heart. Dang. ::goes back to listening to her new Hanson CD in shame:: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:34:48 -0400 From: Lori Martin Subject: gonna have a heapin' bowl of FrankenFood (Time magazine poll) A newslist forward that's actually on topic, sorta-kinda. > >Time Magazine is holding an online poll on your views on GM Food. > > >Please vote at > >http://www.time.com/time/daily/poll/0,2637,foodpoll2,00.html and > >pass > >on this information - -- Lori Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html Moxy Früvous House Party pictures/reviews: http://members.aol.com/faeriefru/houseparty.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:58:30 -0700 From: Ellen Subject: Re: gonna have a heapin' bowl of FrankenFood (Time magazine poll) Lori Martin wrote: >Time Magazine is holding an online poll on your views on GM Food. ha. if you vote, you'll discover that the vast majority of the people who have voted thus far are either Very Concerned, or don't give a damn. this is a subject near and dear to my heart. if i ever have the patience to wait around after a show until the band appears, i would *love* to hear what inspired this tune. peace, ellen - ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:21:49 -0700 From: Ellen Subject: Re: What Phrase bwahahaha. someone was silly enough to ask for favorite lyric phrases in the presence of a BIG LYRICS GEEK like me. and not even limiting it to one band! how silly. i'll be nice. i'll only give some of my favorite lines. Requesting some enlightenment... (Dave Matthews Band, Dancing Nancies) Your tongue is twisted with words half spoken and thoughts unclear (GD, Box of Rain) Fare thee well now, let your life proceed by its own design. Nothing to tell now, let the words be yours, I'm done with mine (GD, Cassidy) Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world the heart has its beaches, its homeland and thoughts of its own. Wake now, discover that you are the song that the morning brings, But the heart has its seasons, its evenings and songs of its own. (GD, Eyes of the World) (actually, the whole damn song.) If you get confused, listen to the music play. (GD, Franklins Tower) I was blind all the time I was learning to see. (GD, Help on the Way!) Some folks would be happy just to have one dream come true But everything you gather is just more that you can lose. (Jerry Garcia Band, Mission in the Rain) Lady finger, dipped in moonlight, writing "What for?" across the morning sky. Sunlight splatters, dawn with answer, darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye. (GD, St. Stephen) Well, I ain't always right but I have never been wrong. Seldom turns out the way it does in a song. Once in a while you get shown the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right. (GD, Scarlet Begonias) Inspiration, move me brightly. Light the song with sense and color; hold away despair (GD, Terrapin Station) Full of hope, full of grace, is the human face. /// By and by again, the morning sun will rise But the darkness never goes from some men's eyes. /// The future's here, we are it, we are on our own. /// So the kids they dance, they shake their bones While the politicians are throwing stones Singing ashes ashes, all fall down. (GD, Throwing Stones) (yeah i really like that song) And every time I try to pick it up Like falling sand As fast as I pick it up It runs away through my clutching hands (the Cure, A Letter to Elise) Maybe I will never be All the things that I want to be (Oasis, Live Forever) Thought I'd something more to say. (Pink Floyd, Time) I want to be good Is that not enough (Squeeze, Another Nail for My Heart) I look around for the friends that I used to turn to to pull me through Looking into their eyes, I see them running too (Jackson Browne, Running on Empty) How many times can a man turn his head, Pretending he just doesn't see? (Bob Dylan, Blowing in the Wind) May you build a ladder to the stars And climb on every rung (BD, Forever Young) None of them along the line know what any of it is worth. (BD, All Along the Watchtower) She said a good day Ain't got no rain She said a bad day's when I lie in bed And think of things that might have been (Paul Simon, Slip Sliding Away) Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery None but ourselves can free our minds (Bob Marley, Redemption Song) The world is one big cosmic joke Played on me, I hear (Dan Bern, Hannibal) Too many rapids keep us sweeping along Too many captains keep on steering us wrong (Rush, Second Nature) When I leave I don't know what I'm hoping to find When I leave I don't know what I'm leaving behind (Rush, The Analog Kid) Making arrows out of pointed words (Rush, Different Strings) We are islands to each other, Building hopeful bridges On a troubled sea. (Rush, Entre Nous) there. a mini-tour through the lyrics archive of my brain. oh, and my favorite Fruvous lines are probably: the one from Misplaced that everyone else likes. it just winds perfectly around the music. Airborne with nothing to land on (MPG) Can't really call that a loss or a win (TDS) peace, ellen - ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:11:17 EDT From: "Daancing Queen" Subject: Fruvous Quotes "So long, little Pikachu" ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:24:44 -0700 From: Taylor Nelson Subject: Re: general favorite song quotes Cameron Ross wrote: > > I don't usually point out little flaws like this, > but.... it's ben harper! so I gotta correct it, cause > he's good :) Not to nitpick back, but I'm pretty sure it *is* Ben Lee (little Aussie kid...cute guy). The song is "Burn to Shine" from the CD _Breathing Tornadoes_ I mean, if you've got a Ben Harper song with the same line, send it to me....I'd be pretty impressed. - -Taylor (of the Tacky Hawaiian Shirt) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:55:39 -0700 (PDT) From: kyla Subject: Re: What Phrase (Was: Top 5 Fruvous Songs) "Wouldn't it be great if the band just never ended?" -Consequence Free, GBS "You're my favourite cowboy song/ echoed aching at sunset/ sung together 'round a fire on the plains." -One Hundred Names, the Nields "I've flown over the cuckoo's nest and I never ever coming back." - -Crazy, BNL - --Kyla ===== Science has yet to prove the existence of randomness. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:28:45 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: FRFF afterthoughts In article <0ca7e9ea.8c89e67e@usw-ex0106-045.remarq.com>, Ellen wrote: > it was a bit of a letdown to me that fruvous chose to focus on > their own humor instead of paying respect to guthrie in a > *guthrie tribute* workshop (why agree to do a tribute workshop if you > only want to do your own stuff?). from what i was told, it was supposedly fitting because it was in woody guthrie *style* ... which i just don't buy. the song was funny, and cute, and well done, and trust me, i liked it. just not right there. - -anna- Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:55:20 -0700 From: Maggie Subject: Re: FRFF afterthoughts i can see your point Ellen, as far as i know it wasn't a tribute to moxy fruvous. at least tho, they did their song in guthrie style... at least that's what i gathered. i honestly have no familiarity with his music at all. um, i can't remember what the point to my post was, i think it was something about noticing a rising ego amongst the entire band as well. :) ~Maggie~ still a faithful frühead "Fr˙fffffc - ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:34:47 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: FRFF afterthoughts On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:37:30 -0700, Ellen wrote: >i might be alone in feeling this way, but i was a little >disappointed in fruvous's Tents Part 2 being part of the woody >guthrie workshop. > >it was a bit of a letdown to me that fruvous chose to focus on >their own humor instead of paying respect to guthrie in a >*guthrie >tribute* workshop (why agree to do a tribute workshop if you only >want to do your own stuff?). Some of us talked about this after the workshop. My feeling is that [a.] if immitation is the highest form of flattery, and the guys filked a Guthrie tune, then the whole thing is is no big deal and kinda makes sense. [b.] Irreverence, cleverness, and satire are among Fruvous' strengths; they played to them. [C.] I can't speak from experience since I'm not a performer, but I understand that it is not uncommon for festivals to simply assign artists to do workshops. I don't know if that is how FRFF works, but I can imagine Fruvous getting word that they'll be doing the Guthrie workshop and the Gospel Wake Up Hour. :-) lol - -- Trace trace at fruhead dot com Maybe we're just looking at a funhouse mirror and loving our reflections ~MPG~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:34:30 EDT From: "Daancing Queen" Subject: Semi OT: GBS (was: What Phrase) >From: kyla >"Wouldn't it be great if the band just never ended?" -Consequence Free, >GBS For the sake of conversation, I'm going to debate this as a good quote. :) Yes, it is very cool - and I like it, it works in it's spot in the song. It's a good line, it's a cool song. BUT....at the same time, it really really bugs me. It's too contrived (is that the right word? sounds good to me). It's like the band put it in because it's the type of line that will get a audience to cheer wildly (which is achieves quite well). I always feel so "fake" when I follow along so sheeplike. IMHO, it's cool when a line in a song achieves a meaning or new appreciation that people will cheer for or even show a different form of appreciation - for example, I think it's cool when in TDS the audience breaks from the sway to open the window and play some nintendo - I bet it's a pretty cool effect for the band to watch from the stage - I know newcomers to shows find it neat. But that's something that's evolved. GBS on the otherhand could pretty much guarentee that people would cheer for that line (who would want GBS to end) - it just feels like manipulation to me. (those two examples are probably in no way related, I tried - but I couldn't come up with a direct relation where people have started to ritually cheer at a particular line in a Fruvous song) But that's just one opinion. Sara ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:45:21 -0400 From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: FRFF afterthoughts > i guess. it's tough to find a balance; last year there were main > stage sets that i regretted missing. this year, i realize there > were workshops i should have caught. I'll agree with you that it's hard to find a balance. My attitude this year was that I already knew the music of my favorite bands, so I should see new people on the main stage. I felt a tinge of regret in that decision each time I heard the Nields wailing away, or the crowd laughing at Fruvous. But hearing Ann Rabson, and Pamela Means, and Jeff Lang, and Barachois (!!) was great, so overall I'm happy with what I did. > i might be alone in feeling this way, but i was a little > disappointed in fruvous's Tents Part 2 being part of the woody > guthrie workshop. You're not alone in that. > i know this is a little harsh, but really. moxy fruvous is not > infallible, and i think they let their image do a little too much > of the talking in this case. I got the impression they were trying too hard to be the "wild and zany Canadians" that they were played up to be. - --Adam adamh@javanet.com 85% content-free ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: kyla Subject: Re: Semi OT: GBS (was: What Phrase) - --- Daancing Queen wrote: > >"Wouldn't it be great if the band just never ended?" -Consequence > Free, > >GBS > > For the sake of conversation, I'm going to debate this as a good > quote. :) > > Yes, it is very cool - and I like it, it works in it's spot in the > song. > It's a good line, it's a cool song. > > BUT....at the same time, it really really bugs me. It's too > contrived (is > that the right word? sounds good to me). It's like the band put it > in > because it's the type of line that will get a audience to cheer > wildly > (which is achieves quite well). I always feel so "fake" when I > follow along > so sheeplike. I see what you mean, but to me it's actually completely different; I'm in marching band and all season long, we just don't want it to end, and it's a "I'm having fun, what do you mean we have to get on the bus and go home" kinda thing. I actually have never seen GBS in concert (although I would love to) so I don't know if that's what is happening with the line. It just makes me feel smiley. - --Kyla ===== Science has yet to prove the existence of randomness. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:21:26 -0400 From: lawrence solomon Subject: Re: What Phrase Josh Harriman wrote: > > Fruheads - > I'll chime in here because I think that one of my favorite songs > hasn't gotten enough attention recently. That song is, of course, Sad > Today. I think that it has some of the best lyrics, and would love for > them to play it more often. I especially like the opening: > > Sad today > Sad today > Even coffee can't make it go away ... I think we should all talk about Sad Today a lot, even just say the title, "Sad Today," like we did Bed and Breakfast and Love Set Fire, and maybe Sad Today will come back eventually, too. :) or we could subtly put lyrics from Sad Today in our .signature files, and maybe they'll notice that we sure quote Sad Today a lot. - -- lawrence solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "I murdered my friends, but I made amends, and that is why I'm free today." -Moxy Früvous ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #310 ********************************************