From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #215 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, May 10 2000 Volume 04 : Number 215 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: a thank-you note [Maggie Deegan ] Re: MBLABOA [sisterpuff@my-deja.com] Re: Cool Band Alert!! ["Novac" ] Re: MBLABOA [Donna Hunt ] Lowest of the Low (OT) [dgodwin01@aol.com (DGodwin01)] OT: Re: Videos [Donna Hunt ] Re: geneseo ["Gramcracker" ] (Mostly OT) Dealing with people (warning: angry and irrational) [spin0za1] Re: (Mostly OT) Dealing with people (warning: angry and irrational) [serr] Re: Cool Band Alert!! [bradbourne@my-deja.com] Re: Toads Place Review 5/7/00 [Chad Maloney ] Re: geneseo [Marie-Claude Danis ] Re: Setlists (was Re: Toads Place Review 5/7/00) [Marie-Claude Danis ] Re: Toads Place Review 5/7/00 [Marie-Claude Danis ] Re: (Mostly OT) Dealing with people (warning: angry and irrational) [Magg] Re: XPN Announcement... [Melanie ] Re: Americanism again [loudsioux@aol.com (Loud Sioux)] Re: MBLABOA ["Lauren Seyler" ] Brittany vs Jian- A Battle of Authors ["Lauren Seyler" Subject: Re: a thank-you note Minda i woulda signed your card if i could have!! *big huggles* happy birthday sweetie!!! - -- ~Maggie~ "The Hawaiian alphabet has 22 letters, 6 of which are K." ~ Taylor Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 02:03:52 GMT From: sisterpuff@my-deja.com Subject: Re: MBLABOA so, we read Handmaid's Tale in my religion in lit class fall semester this past year and i enjoyed the book...even though i was completely oblivious during the lecture, but that's a different story... plus, Garcia-Marquez (or however you spell her name...sorry, i'm a bad speller when it comes to names...you should see the way I used to spell Jian when i first heard of the band...) is pretty cool...and, of course, the suggestion of Love in the Time of Cholera will definitley follow with that name... amy Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:59:41 -0400 From: "Novac" Subject: Re: Cool Band Alert!! wrote in message > I happened > to go to The Barking Spider Tavern last night, and got to see a really > great band called Well, another wonderful band that frequents the Barking Spider is Maggi, Pierce and E.J. [They'll be in Syracuse July 19th, tentatively, but I'm pretty sure they will, since one show will be an in-store Borders show!]. They're wonderful. They travel around quite a bit, see them if you get the chance! - --Novac ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:06:55 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: MBLABOA Rachel R Beck wrote: > Among other things, we'll be reading a Margaret Atwood book > (Handmaid's Tale). I was wondering if anybody wants to put in a word for > his or her favorite work by any of the others mentioned in "Authors." I'll throw in my two cents because I can. Doris Lessing's "The Golden Notebook" is an incredible book that I think everyone should read... although it's huge. Immense. There's *so* much in it. I loved it, but it was *work* to get through it. And I really loved her "Love, Again"--which is an entirely different kind of work. I recommend that as well. And if you *will* teach Mario Puzo, how can it not be "The Godfather?" :) ciao, donna ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 2000 04:26:10 GMT From: dgodwin01@aol.com (DGodwin01) Subject: Lowest of the Low (OT) With the mention of Lowest of the Low.. I Think it should be mentioned that the lead singer of Lowest of the Low is playing at Darien Lake the day after (Sun 5-21) Fruvous plays there. Ron Hawkins his his name... Daniel When Cows Laugh, Does Milk Come Out Their Noses? If At First You Don't Succeed... Don't Try Bungee Jumping. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:53:06 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: OT: Re: Videos Bridget wrote: > -"Are you playing MST3K with my soap?!?!?!?" > ~Donna the GH junkie, 5/3/00 Ahem. 1.) I am *not* a junkie. I simply like things in my life that are actually more dramatic than my real life. 2.) You *were* playing MST3K! You were! That's all. An entirely useless post brought to you by donna's clique of being up way to late. ciao, donna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:31:39 -0400 From: "Gramcracker" Subject: Re: geneseo "Teresa Bonvino" queried: > does anyone happen to know what the setlist was for the geneseo 4/29 > show? Murray's setlist: NOW TOQUE CAREFUL HEAT B.J. SAD LAZY ASS STUCK PISCO INDY BOOTY KING SPLAT HOLD MPG AUTH CAR BOY VID - ----- MICH - ----- CHER DRINK smoochies, meghan - -- - ---- "The future looks like distant thunder 'cause I'm never sure that I'll get paid. And I'm pissed that I'm not gettin' younger, gettin' pretty, gettin' love, gettin' laid." -Moxy Früvous, "Earthquakes" - ----- meghan@fruhead.com ICQ# 17903747 Meghan's Fruvous Pictures: http://www.buffnet.net/~cgrammer/fruvous ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 2000 07:25:05 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: (Mostly OT) Dealing with people (warning: angry and irrational) I've been sort of staying away from school a lot lately.When I do go, I leave immediately afterwards, usually with my boyfriend, and go home. And I talk to you people. And I've been going to a lot of concerts lately. To a large extent I've stopped dealing with me heroin addict friends. I've been dealing with fruheads instead and usually it;s much much better and less stressful. Yesterday, one of my aforementioned heroin addict friends was kicked out of her house. She called my boyfriend to help her move all of her stuff. He called me because there was too much for him to carry alone. Yesterday my boyfriend and I moved 6 large suitcases from her house in Queens to my house in Brooklyn on the subway. This is with tendonitis in both legs. Today she called my boyfriend and said that her mom realized that she was stupid and that she was back at home... and that she needed us to bring back all of her stuff. Usually I'm very happy amongst fruheads because I've had so much worse stuff with my school friends what with institutionalizations and overdoses and suicide attempts and combinations thereof... and it's like sometimes I'm happy that usually our worst problems (community-wise, not individually... I'm not going to pretend that our lives are all great) have to do with things like ripped setlists and cutting lines... other times, like now, I just feel like screaming JESUS H CHRIST, WHAT THE FUCK? I'M COMING HERE TO GET AWAY FROM ALL THE SHIT OF REAL PROBLEMS AND I RUN INTO SHIT ABOUT STUPID THINGS! WHAT THE FUCK IS SO DAMNED IMPORTANT ABOUT WHO GETS THE PAPER OR WHO DOES OR DOESN'T DRIVE WITH WHO OR WHO'S DATING WHO... GET OVER IT!!! And I know I'm being hypocritical because I get really upset about the petty stuff too... but I'm really upset right now about a lot of stuff and I need very badly to vent. I'm sorry. kill me now? "To believe that knowledge is ignorance is noble. To believe that ignorance is knowledge is evil." - -unknown "You'll have to lose your mind before you can come to your senses!" - -Socrates, Way of the Peaceful Warrior Gella ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 2000 11:22:34 GMT From: serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman) Subject: Re: (Mostly OT) Dealing with people (warning: angry and irrational) *passes a big hug, a Vt Teddybear, and a box of chocolate to Gella* Gella, AMEN, SISTER!!!! People are people. But we all kinda have to live with each other up in here (it's an image, go with it), so it'd be better if we were all a little kinder. Doesn't matter who did what to who, apologies always help. I can think of one situation a few months back that was apologized for, and now all the parties are friends. Making amends is a *good thing*. It gives you karma points and a warm and fuzzy feeling. So lay off each other, eh? - -J writing a song called the Ballad of Jill V. Fruhead Ji-Murray person The Leopard Lady "She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter Too short to play herself in a movie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:52:36 GMT From: bradbourne@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Cool Band Alert!! I've seen MPE a few times that they have come to Cleveland. I also saw them in Harrisburg when the opened for Fruvous... which is how I found out about them... - -Mark In article <8fan1h$1fj6$1@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Novac" wrote: > > > wrote in message > > I happened > > to go to The Barking Spider Tavern last night, and got to see a really > > great band called > > Well, another wonderful band that frequents the Barking Spider is Maggi, > Pierce and E.J. [They'll be in Syracuse July 19th, tentatively, but I'm > pretty sure they will, since one show will be an in-store Borders show!]. > They're wonderful. They travel around quite a bit, see them if you get the > chance! > --Novac > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:00:39 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Toads Place Review 5/7/00 Gella (Spin0za1) wrote: > > No, I'm not really crying, I just really REALLY hate these things > from the very beginning to the very end. They drive me to do insane > things like write letters to Murray... and actually SEND them... just to > remind myself that he and the rest of them still exist. :( Yeah. I wrote letters to Bear Bear myself. Like this: To: Bear Bear (c/o Moxy Fruvous) From: Me Yo! 'sup BB? You be havin' da rollin' da time wit' da gang, yo! Miggin' wid da mack an' all dat, yo! I'se come ta bring da nizzews uv our bud Loren. I knizzow dat I hazzn't been good wit' da writin' an all dat, but ah needz yah BB to be wit' me in spirit in mah hizzard lizzife, boy! Anyways, dewd, you'se needz ta know what dis bizzatch was be doing in dis plizzace nizzear Philly-town. It be imperitive ta yer knizzowledge quizzotient, bizzoy! Aw yeah! Dig dis, dis bizzatch be standing behind me and my budz (twas Loren and da one da only Mary-girl and mixmasta Resier and da phat gear). She be chillin' wit' her boy-crew out back there and we be sittin' mindin' our own bizzisness. We got our lady Loren up on da stair so she cud sees da show, ya know, boy? Yeah. Yeah. We gots da girl up in the there on the stair and all dat real early like so none udder can bump her down to floor, yo! So dig dis, dis bizzatch behind lady Loren wuz just breakin' up! She and her bizzoy were trizzying ta take da stair what rightfully belonged ta our girly-girl Loren and we ain't none gonna stand for dat, yo. And dig dis, she wants to go. She says ta Loren, our Loren who gots da backup ta whack dat bizzatch right out da town, she says ta Loren "You wanna go? You wanna go?" Well, lady Loren knizzows she got the love behind her and she ain't got no fears of bizzatchs encrouching up on our rightful space and all dat. She stand up tall and dat chick she backs down real quick I bet. If we'sa gotten outside da story had been real different, yo! Rumble!!! Aw yeah! So, dig BB, you jess needz ta know 'bout dat cuz it made me feel sad dat folks be actin' so bad, 'specially to da chickie Loren, ya know? So whens you sees Loren next, you needz ta tell her "yo, I got yer back, chickie!" and all dat and when we gets ta gether, we'se gonna kick it somethin' fierce, don't ya know it. Cheers BB. Take care and stay dry! Chad Now, you are saying what is the moral of this story? Well, the moral is be careful whom your write letter to. You never know when alleys and urine may mix. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:16:53 GMT From: Marie-Claude Danis Subject: Re: geneseo > Murray's setlist: > > NOW > TOQUE CAREFUL > HEAT > B.J. > SAD > LAZY > ASS > STUCK > PISCO > INDY > BOOTY > KING > SPLAT > HOLD > MPG > AUTH > CAR > BOY > VID > ----- > MICH > ----- > CHER > DRINK Heh. Way to be concise, Mur. (and TOQUE CAREFUL -- hee!) mcee, trivial once again. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:39:21 GMT From: Marie-Claude Danis Subject: Re: Setlists (was Re: Toads Place Review 5/7/00) > - Chad (who remembers back to the days people > would slither for set lists and others > would watch them, be happy they got it, > and laugh at their slithering) Oh, I'll laugh at yer slithering, boy. (Sorry. Miss you :) mcee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:32:43 GMT From: Marie-Claude Danis Subject: Re: set lists Maggie Deegan wrote: > > well, i'm gonna try to make this mean-spirited little flame war about > setlists into something a little bit positive. > > the first time i ever thought about getting a setlist was a few weeks > ago at fredonia. i figured it'd be easy since no one seemed to care > about 'em [1] so i moseyed up to the stage barrier and asked the cute > security boy to snag me a setlist. he said no, and i whined a little > bit, hoping that by some freak accident of nature he'd think me cute > and would change his mind. didn't happen. ah well. > > it's paper. :) Such troubles for mere paper! However, I have to admit that it can be nice memorabilia from a concert you loved. The setlist story of all setlist stories: Maybe some of you remember the Ottawa Folk Fest incident in August '98. First off, Fruvous fans were accused of "moshing" (they were most definitely *not*) and the festival officials decided to create a "no dancing" rule to following shows, basically accusing Fruheads of having been unruly punks. To add to that, when someone tried to take the setlist from the stage, the MC, idiot-boy Chopper McKinnon, brutally stomped his foot down on her hand, not even interrupting what he was saying. That weekend was amazing all in all, but those few incidents definitely gave bad press to Fruvous. My best bud/hausmate Katherine Maheux wrote a great article about that and it got published in the Ottawa Citizen (the major paper there). Unfortunately I can't find the link at this time. I'll look for it... mcee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:36:52 GMT From: Marie-Claude Danis Subject: Re: Toads Place Review 5/7/00 Chad, you are the New Richard :) mcee, putting the jack-knife back in her backpocket, whistling innocently. Chad Maloney wrote: > > Gella (Spin0za1) wrote: > > > > No, I'm not really crying, I just really REALLY hate these things > > from the very beginning to the very end. They drive me to do insane > > things like write letters to Murray... and actually SEND them... just to > > remind myself that he and the rest of them still exist. :( > > Yeah. I wrote letters to Bear Bear myself. Like this: > > To: Bear Bear (c/o Moxy Fruvous) > From: Me > > Yo! 'sup BB? You be havin' da rollin' da time wit' da gang, yo! Miggin' > wid da mack an' all dat, yo! I'se come ta bring da nizzews uv our bud > Loren. I knizzow dat I hazzn't been good wit' da writin' an all dat, > but ah needz yah BB to be wit' me in spirit in mah hizzard lizzife, boy! > > Anyways, dewd, you'se needz ta know what dis bizzatch was be doing in > dis plizzace nizzear Philly-town. It be imperitive ta yer knizzowledge > quizzotient, bizzoy! Aw yeah! Dig dis, dis bizzatch be standing behind > me and my budz (twas Loren and da one da only Mary-girl and > mixmasta Resier and da phat gear). She be chillin' wit' her boy-crew out > back there and we be sittin' mindin' our own bizzisness. We got our > lady Loren up on da stair so she cud sees da show, ya know, boy? > Yeah. Yeah. We gots da girl up in the there on the stair and all > dat real early like so none udder can bump her down to floor, yo! > > So dig dis, dis bizzatch behind lady Loren wuz just breakin' up! > She and her bizzoy were trizzying ta take da stair what rightfully > belonged ta our girly-girl Loren and we ain't none gonna stand for > dat, yo. And dig dis, she wants to go. She says ta Loren, our Loren > who gots da backup ta whack dat bizzatch right out da town, she says > ta Loren "You wanna go? You wanna go?" Well, lady Loren knizzows she > got the love behind her and she ain't got no fears of bizzatchs > encrouching up on our rightful space and all dat. She stand up tall > and dat chick she backs down real quick I bet. If we'sa gotten > outside da story had been real different, yo! Rumble!!! Aw yeah! > > So, dig BB, you jess needz ta know 'bout dat cuz it made me feel > sad dat folks be actin' so bad, 'specially to da chickie Loren, ya > know? So whens you sees Loren next, you needz ta tell her "yo, > I got yer back, chickie!" and all dat and when we gets ta gether, > we'se gonna kick it somethin' fierce, don't ya know it. > > Cheers BB. Take care and stay dry! > Chad > > Now, you are saying what is the moral of this story? Well, the moral > is be careful whom your write letter to. You never know when alleys > and urine may mix. > > - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:42:32 GMT From: Maggie Deegan Subject: Re: (Mostly OT) Dealing with people (warning: angry and irrational) Gella i would never wanna kill you and/or hurt you in anyway. this includes you dealing with emotional hurt too. **BIG HUGE HUGS** - -- ~Maggie~ "The Hawaiian alphabet has 22 letters, 6 of which are K." ~ Taylor Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:44:02 -0400 From: Melanie Subject: Re: XPN Announcement... >>> >The money gets donated to XPN, a non-profit radio station that you really should check out if you haven't already. This is part of XPNs summer fundraiser. So not only can you get the frulads to play a little party at your place, you get a warm fuzzy feeling *and* a deduction on your taxes.<< Unfortunately, the tax part is not true. The IRS considers that you are getting something of value for your "contribution," and therefore the value of that item is not tax deductible. Even if you pay over what the auctioned item is valued at, the IRS has determined that the value of an auctioned item is whatever someone is willing to pay for it at the auction. I used to be in fundraising, so I know this. However, that's no reason not to participate. melanie ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 2000 18:50:29 GMT From: loudsioux@aol.com (Loud Sioux) Subject: Re: Americanism again As a former educational professional, I apologize to you on behalf of all of the teachers, principals and administrators who have failed you so successfully. First of all, you’re "reading between the lines" skills seem to be much better developed than your actual reading skills. I never said "anything" about teaching any "average" student or "teaching down" to anyone, and I must confess that I hated "artsy-craftsy" projects for many years because I am the result of the same demented school system as you are and totally missed the point of them for far too long a time. But, first, a word about what I *did* say. There is a great deal of difference between "teaching to a test" and teaching a subject matter well and thoroughly, so that students can not only pass standardized tests, (and school districts can get their cut of the tax pie) but so that students can pass the more important test called *LIFE*. We all gain a certain amount of "self-esteem" or just ammunition to ward off the fear of failure and inadequacy, form getting those A's and getting admitted to those honors courses and thumbing our noses at those "average" kids that are holding us brilliant, special students back. I've been there, and was as much of an academic whore as the next nerd, but I've also been in the other two places, the "average" student that nobody paid attention to or ever expected much of and the downright loser, the "Charlie Brown - failure face" of the class, actually the whole school for a time (what successful failure!). And so I can truly attest to the fact that negative experiences early in life do leave permanent scars, ones that force you to always second guess yourself even when you are getting the A's and the awards and recognition. No, this doesn't mean touchie-feelie, meaningless ed. practices should be resorted to. Sooner or later, the lack of substance to one's self esteem will surely collapse under its own weight. But why should students who aren't, for whatever reason, able or willing to perform at a certain level of speed and accuracy have to wait for Jr. or Sr. High to be given a comfortable level of learning expectations. And even then, it comes at the price of a less than stellar label, which doesn't really benefit anyone, not even the super students who need to build their self image on the shattered remains of others or the lazy teacher who can say, "What can you expect, they aren't honors students? I did my best." The ideal situation is not to teach to the "average" student, because honestly, that changes form day to day and surely forms week to week, but we all prefer labels and pigeon holing people. The ideal way is to teach each student up to the level he/she is capable of and then encouraging them to stretch even further. Unfortunately, the average public school in the US is uniquely unsuited to do this. We segregate arbitrarily by age and usually don't acknowledge that even bright students develop at different rates in different subject areas and this rate varies over time. Yes, there are ways this can be done, but it requires lots of hard work form everyone concerned, a certain amount of faith in the professional teaching staff that you hire so that you (the administrators and school board, etc.) don't feel the need to give virtually meaningless standardized tests to assert their authority and keep tabs on the progress of a profession in which most of them rarely have any practical experience . Teaching to the test actually tends to water down curriculums, tends to encourage actual subtle (and not so subtle, at times) forms of cheating and "fudging". After all, people's pay checks and jobs are on the line, and they know that you can't get blood out of a stone or make a student who has struggled for 4 or 5 or more years in an educational system that has failed him/her to suddenly respond to some new gizmo or program or incentive that the school district has invested big bucks in. But then they have invested big bucks and want to prove that the gizmo, etc. really does work, so they find the appropriate scape goats - lazy students and incompetent teachers. Oh, BTW, the problem with artsy-craftsy stuff is that we always look it as art work, you know stuff to hang in the halls and on the bulletin boards and the end result is the goal, which goes along with the test score mentality. The artsy-craftsy stuff could all just as well be chucked when completed, or ever before completed, depending on the concepts it is supposed to be teaching. Possibly it shouldn't ever be shown to the teacher (there's a concept to knock your socks off, I bet :-)) and certainly shouldn't be treated the same as an art project that was meant for display. The point is to learn concepts through working with them in 3D space, which gives a whole other "dimension" to learning. [Try teaching electronics or mechanics or even surgery without this component, and see where you get. Yet, we deny this very real element to "elementary" age children. =-O (Once I get going like this, I'd better quit.) *Cheer form the assembled masses* Well, I think I've ranted on enough, or probably too much! It' s a complex issue and one that people tend to want to pay much less attention and everything else to than is needed. Hope you find fulfillment in yourself as much as possible, and the one upmanship and need for teacher validation should gradually retreat, like a bad dream.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:03:07 EDT From: "Lauren Seyler" Subject: Re: MBLABOA I tried reading "Love in the Time of Cholera", but it went so slowly I never got past the first chapter. I wonder if Jian thinks playing chess is sexy because of that book... Lauren Seyler ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:23:59 EDT From: "Lauren Seyler" Subject: Brittany vs Jian- A Battle of Authors While changing the birdcage liner yesterday, I came across a two-week-old article in the "Generation: Next" section of our local paper- a section that can best be described as a cross between Seventeen magazine and TV Guide. Anyway, the article said that Brittany Spears' book (which she wrote with help from her mom), "Brittany Spears' Heart-to-Heart", is coming out May 9. This little tidbit of vital information (*gag, retch*) raised some interesting questions to my mind, such as, "What the hell could Brittany Spears possibly write a book about?" and "How many people are actually going to buy this book?" However, the fact that I had read an article about Starbuck's by Jian only moments before made me wonder: "Why is it that an airhead like Brittany Spears can write an actual book, when the writing talents of a guy like Jian are often over-looked?" Of course, we all know the answer to this one. Brittany Spears is a popular, world-famous, over-glorified teen idol, whereas Jian actually has talent. Unfortunately, among most non-Fruheads, he's pretty much unknown. My fellow classmates see the picture of me that I had taken with him at the ACCC show on 4/20, and they say, "Oh, who's that?" And I go through the whole schmeel of who he is, and what band he's from, for about the 50th time, because if I just say, "That's Jian Ghomeshi," they look at me like I'm from another planet (although most people already think I am). Then again, I could just say, "Oh, that's my boy friend Jian," and they'd probably believe me. People have told me that we make a cute couple (and one girl even thought he was my dad- scary!), but that's beside the point. To steal a well-known phrase, here's my point: Any idiot can write a book, as long as enough people know who that idiot is. Wow. All that ranting over one sentence. Now all I need is a stand-up drum kit and a cowboy hat... Lauren Seyler P.S. With much credit given to my best friend, fellow Fruhead (I converted her!), and partner in crime, Allison Heneghan, here's another thought raised by Brittany's book: "Sure, Brittany Spears can write a book, but how many of her fans can actually read it?" Thanks, Al. You rock. :-) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:03:10 -0500 From: "Eugene & Stephanie Miller" Subject: Please take a listen While you are reading your e-mail/news please take a listen. http://www.mp3.com/theerm Thanks Erm ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 2000 20:46:18 GMT From: spychicr@aol.compoot (Rai-Marie) Subject: Re: OT: The Northern Ontario Rant << Sorry to disappoint you dear, but all those jokes were made before FruCon II when I mentioned I was bringing a couple dozen persians down from Thunder Bay with me :) I think I've heard all of 'em between pre- con and during the Con *lol*>> I was still a Frü-virgin as of FruCon II... or just been de-fruvirginized... Maybe this is a good thing? --Rai, who lost yet another game of chess today! I think I hold a record. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Rai is also known as the CANADIAN POSER! Fighter for liberty, justice, and the right to use a "u" in the word colour. I like pink. But only if it's a manly pink. A "Butch, the prom queen" pink. ~Gotta love the Lizard ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #215 ********************************************