From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #191 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, April 21 2000 Volume 04 : Number 191 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: :::whimpers::: [spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1)] Mays Landing thoughts [mbp8@cornell.edu (Mike Puterbaugh)] Mays Landing . . . ["Kate Leahy" ] Re: C album HELP!!! [Anna! ] OT: Fun Album Titles ["Novac" ] Re: OT: Fun Album Titles [serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman)] OT: Veterans of the semester system [Rachel R Beck ] Re: OT: Fun Album Titles ["maryanne naylor" ] whimper at the Ji-Spot [FruCake1@aol.com] Re: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle [vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: OT: Fun Album Titles [Ellen Gersh ] Re: :::whimpers::: [trehggr99@aol.com (Trehggr99)] Re: Mays Landing show ["Prop Builder" ] Re: OT: Fun Album Titles [spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1)] Re: OT: Fun Album Titles [Marie-Claude Danis ] Re: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle [trehggr99@aol.com (Trehggr99)] Re: Fun Album Titles ["fruomfffan@xoommail.com" ] RE: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle ["Vokes, Laurie" ] Re: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Mays Landing show [Chad Maloney ] Re: Mays Landing show ["Kate Leahy" ] Americanism again (was: Mays Landing show) ["Prop Builder" ] Re: Americanism again (was: Mays Landing show) ["A.J. LoCicero" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Apr 2000 04:26:07 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: Re: :::whimpers::: >melinda told me good stuff about the new cut... Melinda, I trust you with my life in a car to Toronto, I'll trust you on this. :) "To believe that knowledge is ignorance is noble. To believe that ignorance is knowledge is evil." - -unknown "You'll have to lose your mind before you can come to your senses!" - -Socrates, Way of the Peaceful Warrior Gella ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 2000 04:48:01 GMT From: mbp8@cornell.edu (Mike Puterbaugh) Subject: Mays Landing thoughts Cost of ticket: $19.50 Parking at train station: $2.50 Round-trip train ticket: $5.50 Tolls for traversing 180 miles of NJ Parkway: $3.50 Tank of gas: $13.50 (why is everything .50?) Getting to see the guys perform "Gulf War Song" in person, without amplification: PRICELESS My third Frushow and the best one yet. I thought having the audience in seats brought down the energy level a little, but the band was ON. I'd gush more but I have to get to sleep so I can go to work tomorrow and leave in time to see them again at Irving Plaza. Yours Fruly, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:17:02 -0400 From: "Kate Leahy" Subject: Mays Landing . . . Hi everyone. It's Kate. I haven't posted a review in a while 'cause . . . well, 'cause I haven't seen a show in a while :). Anyway, tonight was just lovely, though Dad and I got a little lost and ended up missing Sarah Harmer. As to the music, I know they've been opening with "Down From Above" quite a bit, but I don't know if I like it. "Gulf War Song" was certainly a treat :). Altogether, I thought the show was really great, especially Murray's foray into the world of improvisational drumming. This also marks the third show at which they've spoken extensively about Alexander Haig. I may just be a little sensitive to it as I just found out that his brother Frank is not only a Jesuit priest but a professor at my school :). At any rate, as I look at the tour schedule, this may very well have been my last Früvous show for a long, long time as I'll be heading off to Belgium in the fall and the tour schedule just doesn't seem to like my own. So thanks for a million memories, guys . . . I'll see you on the other side :). - --Kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu "You don't know me but I'm famous . . ." - --Jump, Little Children ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:56:58 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: C album HELP!!! In article <8dnqhr$ko9$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, "Sam-I-Am" wrote: > You've heard it? Could you share the track list with us?? MC is under a strict code of silence ... if she shares anymore information, I've been told to kill her ;) - -anna- http://elements.dreamhost.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:10:00 -0400 From: "Novac" Subject: OT: Fun Album Titles I was just wondering about some fun album titles out there. Here are three of my favorites from the near past: Garage D'Or [Cracker] Hooray for Boobies [Bloodhound Gang] Title of Record [Filter] Anyone else have some to offer up? - --Novac ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 2000 11:06:12 GMT From: serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman) Subject: Re: OT: Fun Album Titles >Garage D'Or [Cracker] >Hooray for Boobies [Bloodhound Gang] >Title of Record [Filter] > >Anyone else have some to offer up? When I put out an album, its title will be: Another Chick with a Guitar and Something to Say [Jill V. Friedman] - -J writing a song called the Ballad of Jill V. Fruhead Ji-Murray person The Leopard Lady "She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter Too short to play herself in a movie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:08:09 GMT From: Rachel R Beck Subject: OT: Veterans of the semester system I've decided to go to University of Iowa for next year, and pretty soon I need to turn in a syllabus for the general ed literature course I'm teaching. I went to a school that had ten-week terms, so I can't really use my intro lit classes as a blueprint for how much work to give. (I did an off-campus program that was on a semester system and everybody thought I was really driven and efficient until thirteenth week rolled around and I started whining about when I could go home.) Those of you who are at colleges on the semester system, what do you remember from your intro lit courses? How much reading did you do per class? Thanks, folks! - -Rachel ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:13:12 GMT From: "maryanne naylor" Subject: Re: OT: Fun Album Titles >I was just wondering about some fun album titles out there. Here are three >of my favorites from the near past: > > >Anyone else have some to offer up? >--Novac > How about the new Nield album? If you lived here you'd be home by now ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:50:39 GMT From: FruCake1@aol.com Subject: whimper at the Ji-Spot I just wanted to post the "purpose" of the Ji-Spot. It's a fan interactive site where "anything Jian" should be aired!! Jian "supposedly" doesn't read the newsgroup anymore so I'm sure he would love to hear all your comments, praise, show reviews, etc via gojian.com. I don't want to "take business" away from the newsgroup. But there are 3 others band members, Tobey and Cal that we can rant and rave about here. :) (By the way, "anything Dave" goes to mypoorgeneration.com. Cheap plug. I just had to do it!) Thanks alot!! Remember ANYTHING JIAN goes to the Ji-Spot via gojian.com. Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:29:25 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle Spake "Novac" : >Tonight at work [Borders], I popped in a copy of Van Morrison's Skiffle >Sessions (his latest). I was listening along, enjoying the CD more than I >had expected, when suddenly I almost pooped my pants, because he's right >there on this CD, singing "Goodnight, Irene"! I listened to it several >times, just to enjoy it in its entirety. Hey, is this the version of it tha Van Morrison did with Greg Brown? They've been playing it, off and on, at WERS (88.9 FM, Boston, the Emerson College radio station, they play Fruvous as well). I've actually called in to request it. It's amazing. 0v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "Are you done [with your assignment]?" "Yes! We learned how to lie in Italian!" -a conversation I had with one of my students ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:12:37 GMT From: Ellen Gersh Subject: Re: OT: Fun Album Titles >>Garage D'Or [Cracker] >>Hooray for Boobies [Bloodhound Gang] >>Title of Record [Filter] >> >>Anyone else have some to offer up? > Another Chick with a Guitar and Something to Say [Jill V. Friedman] Contractual Obligation Album (Monty Python) - -=ellen=- - -- "you may suffer from exhaust but none of that energy is ever really lost" ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 2000 14:21:12 GMT From: trehggr99@aol.com (Trehggr99) Subject: Re: :::whimpers::: >Don't mind Dee. She needs help. ::pats:: > --Rai > --Shoe. Plbth! :::bites Rai::: I cannot be comforted so easily. The way I see it, Jian's hair is just not a variable. It's just always going to be there. But suddenly it's not and everything's just a leeeeetle bit off. :::sighs::: I think the new look is cool, but I miss the hair. Maybe it'll grow back. But, no matter what, he's still our cool drummer guy! >Rai is also known as the CANADIAN POSER! Fighter for liberty, justice, and >the >right to use a "u" in the word colour. What about favourite? Tre -- "My computer. MINE!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:44:22 GMT From: "Prop Builder" Subject: Re: Mays Landing show Lawrence Solomon's comments seem to nail this concert pretty well, but I feel that I must add mine, instead of just lurking... Even though I couldn't sell my extra tickets, this was a fantastic show, including the part where I got mugged (on camera even) for wearing a Flyer's jersey. Fantastic songs, comments, and crowd mood, although the talking from some people that have been to Fruvous concerts (and grown jaded!?) may have cut down on the enjoyment levels of first timers. (I would have preferred to hear the Republicans' intro to King of Spain, as I have noticed that it is never done quite the same in any live show.) Went drinking at Donnelley's (very empty on Thursday night/Friday morning) afterward with Jian and a few of my friends, where he proceeded to entertain us further, although I suspect that he was entertained as much by us. (Hopefully I will be able to post the picture of all of us in front of Lucy the Elephant.) Jian talked on Canadianism and Americanism, in which he gently shamed us (making us laugh at ourselves in the process, or at least one of our number specifically) on the general world-cultural illiteracy level of Americans as a whole. However, this did not mar the evening at all. In general, he seems to be a very down-to-earth person in person, and his on-stage charisma is just as strong when he is off-stage. One question for all of you: As a rule, most Canadians can tell you the names of our political leader, but can you identify the Canadian Prime Minister, without doing any research? (And no, Lisa, it is not Margaret Thatcher...) - -Bill, the Prop Builder ====ORIGINAL MESSAGE==== >lawrence solomon wrote in message news:01bfab59$1082a660$0288d8ab@default... > wow, wow, wow. This one definitely ranks among the best Fruvous shows I've > seen. They were more than just "on" tonight... they seemed to nail > *everything*. quick setlist, then comments... > > down from above > horseshoes > half as much > heatseeker boy > sad girl > lazy boy > pisco bandito > boo time > splatter^2 > I love my boss (off-mic) > authors > get in the car > your new boyfriend > fly > nuits de reve > king of spain > michigan militia > johnny saucep'n > dancing queen > ------------- > disco b'ville > ------------- > organ grinder (!!!) > gulf war song > > I'm really glad to hear Down from Above making it into more sets... and I > do prefer hearing it in a venue like that (400 seats or so, very small) > than say, Lee's Palace... > > some great improvs tonight... there was a plastic slide on stage and they > did an improv about a female heckler sliding down into Murray's arms... and > others... great stuff, I just never remember any of it. > > there were also some giant letter blocks on the stage, and the biggest one > in the middle had a "C" on it, so they commented that that was the theme > for the evening, and launched into Heatseeker Boy, which is wonderful. > > they're apparently going to be making a video for Sad Girl... > > They were being filmed the entire time, and at times, they would > deliberately play to the camera or make the cameraman's job difficult (like > in Boss by leaving the stage) > > The Fly->Nuits combo is absolutely great. it works, because the mood > doesn't get lost. Nuits->King, on the other hand... well, I guess they > have to break the chain somewhere. :) > > They revived the "republicans" intro to King of Spain, but due to excessive > heckling skipped over the "Is it....?" part and went right into Mike's > intro. > > Organ Grinder was great to hear (wow, they played about half of Wood > tonight). haven't heard this one in a while, and it sounded great, and > everyone was up dancing and stomping their feet and clapping along for it. > lots of fun. > > and hearing the Gulf War Song for a second night in a row... wow. I > thought the harmonies sounded a lot better tonight than last night, and I > think the smaller room made the effect even better... a great ending. > > I was kind of surprised at the lack of much Thornhill stuff (only 3 songs) > but it's good to see that they're really varying the sets... (about half > the set was different from Wednesday) > > halfway through yet another insane frutrip...... > lawrence (oooh, no sig, even, since I'm on the road :) > > ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 2000 15:01:09 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: Re: OT: Fun Album Titles Cal Bum. :) "To believe that knowledge is ignorance is noble. To believe that ignorance is knowledge is evil." - -unknown "You'll have to lose your mind before you can come to your senses!" - -Socrates, Way of the Peaceful Warrior Gella ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:03:46 GMT From: Marie-Claude Danis Subject: Re: OT: Fun Album Titles Novac wrote: > > I was just wondering about some fun album titles out there. Here are three > of my favorites from the near past: > > Garage D'Or [Cracker] > Hooray for Boobies [Bloodhound Gang] > Title of Record [Filter] > > Anyone else have some to offer up? > --Novac Neil Finn's "Try Whistling This" MC ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 2000 15:35:08 GMT From: trehggr99@aol.com (Trehggr99) Subject: Re: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle Hmm. That's odd. I've been told that there's a Jimmy Buffet song called, "Goodnight, Irene" or something very similar. I'll have to ask Alyson about it ... Tre -- "It's. Too. Early." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:58:58 GMT From: "fruomfffan@xoommail.com" Subject: Re: Fun Album Titles "Novac" wrote in message news:8dorea$3ch6$1@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com... > > I was just wondering about some fun album titles out there. Here are three > of my favorites from the near past: > > Garage D'Or [Cracker] > Hooray for Boobies [Bloodhound Gang] > Title of Record [Filter] Celebrity Traffic Jam (Captain Tractor) - -- Cara Kozack It's a reference to a _______ that you've never even heard of by\in a ______ that you probably don't even like. fruomffan@xoommail.com http://fly.to/cjkk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:37:07 GMT From: "Vokes, Laurie" Subject: RE: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle I don't know about Jimmy Buffet, but Jimmy Buffett did cover Goodnight, Irene on Late Night Gumbo. :) Laurie "Have a very fruitful day" - Buffett - -----Original Message----- From: trehggr99@aol.com [mailto:trehggr99@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 10:35 AM To: ammf@fruvous.com Subject: Re: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle Hmm. That's odd. I've been told that there's a Jimmy Buffet song called, "Goodnight, Irene" or something very similar. I'll have to ask Alyson about it ... Tre -- "It's. Too. Early." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:07:21 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Goodnight, Irene Skiffle Novac wrote: > > This has probably already been mentioned here, but forgive me, as there was > a period of non-NG time for me... > > Tonight at work [Borders], I popped in a copy of Van Morrison's Skiffle > Sessions (his latest). I was listening along, enjoying the CD more than I > had expected, when suddenly I almost pooped my pants, because he's right > there on this CD, singing "Goodnight, Irene"! I listened to it several > times, just to enjoy it in its entirety. Why is that surprising? Goodnight Irene is an old and vastly covered folksong. It was supposedly written by Leadbelly, but who knows what his sources may have been? Elements of it may be much older. A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | ICQ: 13117113 \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com AIM / AOL: locicero ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:54:18 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Mays Landing show Prop Builder wrote: > One question for all of you: As a rule, most Canadians can tell you the > names of our political leader, but can you identify the Canadian Prime > Minister, without doing any research? (And no, Lisa, it is not Margaret > Thatcher...) Jean Cretien (spelling optional). So, yeah, I can. But I also like to listen to NPR. Isn't Maggie Thatcher dead yet? *grin* I also know theme songs to too many 80's disney cartoons. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:51:14 -0400 From: "Kate Leahy" Subject: Re: Mays Landing show >One question for all of you: As a rule, most Canadians can tell you the >names of our political leader, but can you identify the Canadian Prime >Minister, without doing any research? (And no, Lisa, it is not Margaret >Thatcher...) That would be Jean Chretien, running for another term despite what appears to be monolithic opposition. Don't let Jian fool you . . . he has a degree in this stuff :). He's a smart guy, but it doesn't come from absolutely nowhere :). - --Kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu "You don't know me but I'm famous . . ." - --Jump, Little Children ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:04:55 GMT From: "Prop Builder" Subject: Americanism again (was: Mays Landing show) > > One question for all of you: As a rule, most Canadians can tell you the > > names of our political leader, but can you identify the Canadian Prime > > Minister, without doing any research? (And no, Lisa, it is not Margaret > > Thatcher...) > Well I dunno about anyone else but I have no problem remembering Jean > Chretien as our PM. Well after the total fool he made of himself in the > middle east its kind of difficult to forget! Sorry Cara, my question referred to the previous paragraph's statement on American cultural illiteracy. You have supported Jian's statement that Canadians of course know this things, but the question was sort of directed toward Americans, that is to say, U.S. citizens... See the question again, as I should have posted it the first time, to clear any ambiguities... Once again I am guilty of Americanism, in assumed that people reading this would only be American. Man, Jian was right... "One question for all of you: As a rule, most Canadians can tell Americans the names of our political leader, but can Americans identify the Canadian Prime Minister, without doing any research?" - -Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:13:00 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Cincy countdown Lethario22@aol.com wrote: > > Hello all. This is my first post, and I would like to say that I am not > counting down the days like some others, but I am looking forward to it very > much. I will be there with a group of about 15 friends that I have turned > into Fruheads. We all love the band and cannot wait to see them. I even drug > 2 of them to Toronto this year for FruCon 3 and their performance at Lee's > Palace on Sat night. I am new to this, so please respond with informative > ideas on stuff to say and acceptable behavior on this service. Hi Brian, Welcome. I guess the best thing you can do to get both information and standards is to read the AMMF FAQ which you can find on Fruvous.com and which is also posted here monthly. (search Deja.com, it will be there.) Begun by Colleen Campbell and now continued by Chad "Mahony" Maloney The FAQ has grown into quite a comprehensive body of fruvous knowledge. Each and every one of us should read it before we ask fru-related info questions, because many of the answers are there in detail. Again, welcome to the asylum. A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | ICQ: 13117113 \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com AIM / AOL: locicero ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:23:40 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Americanism again (was: Mays Landing show) Prop Builder wrote: > > Well I dunno about anyone else but I have no problem remembering Jean > > Chretien as our PM. Well after the total fool he made of himself in the > > middle east its kind of difficult to forget! > > Sorry Cara, my question referred to the previous paragraph's statement on > American cultural illiteracy. You have supported Jian's statement that > Canadians of course know this things, but the question was sort of directed > toward Americans, that is to say, U.S. citizens... Um, Bill, I think she realized your intent. Therein lies the humo(u)r in her response! > "One question for all of you: As a rule, most Canadians can tell Americans > the > names of our political leader, but can Americans identify the Canadian Prime > Minister, without doing any research?" I'd hazard a guess that most nearly all of the posters here could, but then these are fruheads. The general US population would have some trouble with the question, certainly, but then I've found that many Canadians don't know all that much about commonly known (here) US historical facts. So it goes both ways. Remember also that While most Canadians get our TV, Relatively few Americans get theirs, so the information flow south is not equal to that going north. Jian does have a bit of a point with this, but it is not nearly so profound as one might at first think. Remember, while Americans are ignorant slobs, Canadians are spineless US lackeys with a HUGE inferiority complex. :) A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | ICQ: 13117113 \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com AIM / AOL: locicero ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:13:17 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: whimper at the Ji-Spot FruCake1@aol.com wrote: > I just wanted to post the "purpose" of the Ji-Spot. > > It's a fan interactive site where "anything Jian" should be aired!! Jian > "supposedly" doesn't read the newsgroup anymore so I'm sure he would love to > hear all your comments, praise, show reviews, etc via gojian.com. Thanks > alot!! Remember ANYTHING JIAN goes to the Ji-Spot via gojian.com. In other words, folks, whenever you have the need to emote and scream: JIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GoJian.com is the place for you. *grin* So, Lisa, are you going to start an official message-board for the "Great Hair Debate?" ciao, donna ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #191 ********************************************