From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #155 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, March 23 2000 Volume 04 : Number 155 Today's Subjects: ----------------- fhdc [Lori Martin ] Re: So, this newbie walks into a newsgroup . . . [vika@attglobal.net (Vik] Re: OT: Guster?...okay, fill me in here... [fruvousgirl@aol.comedy.hour (] Re: problems with fhdc? [krazy924@aol.com (Kristin)] RE: help fishgirls and Ji-heads [shellyus@aol.comnojunk (Shelly S)] FEEL 10 YEARS YOUNGER! IMPROVE SEXUAL POTENCY!! (77826) ["Bill34537371@o] Re: Newbie Alert! [mossy_fruitloops@my-deja.com] Re: Newbie Alert! [mossy_fruitloops@my-deja.com] Re: OT: Guster?...okay, fill me in here... [RedHairBr ] Re: OT: Guster?...okay, fill me in here... [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Mass Transit performs KOS!!! [tmbgirl@my-deja.com] Re: OT Re:(+Rant/Starbucks) [vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin)] Semi-new West Coast Fru [RedHairBr ] Re: problems with fhdc? ["Arbie" ] Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School [=?iso-8859-1?q?kyla?= ] Re: Help Fishgirls and JiHeads! [melinda klump ] RE: Welcome Newbie [shellyus@aol.comnojunk (Shelly S)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:11:45 GMT From: Lori Martin Subject: fhdc Okay, kids, I know I hate it when do-gooders try to tell me how to spend my money .... BUT. As of this afternoon, FHDC is well into the red ink. And given the @1700 Fruheads registered there, that's something I find ridiculous, and a little sad. If everyone sent its hard-working webmaster just a buck or two to defray costs, that would keep it running for a good long time. (like, YEARS.) If you use FHDC -- if you're on the wall a few hours each week (day?!), if you've got pages there, if it's helped you find reduced-rate Fruspace or hitch a ride to a show -- *please* make a donation. It's been a boon (and heaps of fun) to lots of people, and Josh shouldn't have to swallow all the costs involved. /soapbox - -- Lori ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.fruhead.com/users/Lori/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:18:44 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: So, this newbie walks into a newsgroup . . . Spake trehggr99@aol.com (Trehggr99): >It would also be splendiferous if I could have >the FAQ (should such a thing exist) so I won't presnt *too* many annoying >questions. Umm, geez, might as well call me Tre or Deidre (you pick). That's >what most call me, other than "Hey, you, loser!", which I *am* equally fond of. Hiya Tre, welcome to the havoc. The FAQ is posted here on the 1st of every month, and is also housed at: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html (while you're there, check out the whole web site - Fruvous Dot Com, FDC, is generally pretty nifty.) - -v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon." ------------------------------ Date: 17 Mar 2000 08:23:14 GMT From: fruvousgirl@aol.comedy.hour (Angela) Subject: Re: OT: Guster?...okay, fill me in here... >a bad encounter with a >little blonde drunk college freshman OK, I saw Guster at the Paladium in Worcester a few months ago. um, college freshman. they all looked like high school freshmen to me. maybe Im just getting old. the band was definitely great, and the drummer is just amazing to watch. but I totally agree with the fact that the bulk of the audience has no clue about how to behave in public. it was absolutely the worst crowd Ive been in. regardless, I will most likely be at the show in So Hadley. after all, it would be a shame to miss them in my own town. maybe we should have a FruGathering? Angela "and history seems to agree, that I would fight you for me, that us would fight them for we" - GWS "I was out in the field collecting strength for my sheild, and I misplaced what made me real" - Misplaced ------------------------------ Date: 15 Mar 2000 21:25:08 GMT From: krazy924@aol.com (Kristin) Subject: Re: problems with fhdc? Arbie replied to my question: > >Not that I'm a much of a regular around there but I have heard that there >have been some isp problems. Btw FDC is hosted by the same isp so a quick >way to check where the problem is would be to check both. I checked FDC and it worked fine for me. I just checked my web-counter status again, and there have been a few visitors to my site since my last post. I just tried emailing myself at my fruhead acct and it got returned to me. This is very bizarre. Is anyone else having any sort of problems with FHDC? I emailed Josh about it, but I understand that he's busy and prolly hasn't seen my email yet. I usually use aol as my isp, but I just bought a few hours on a local ISP and tried to go to my site or just the main part of FHDC and was denied access again. Hmm. - -Kristin http://fruhead.com/users/akris10/index.html ------------------------------ Date: 19 Mar 2000 00:59:13 GMT From: shellyus@aol.comnojunk (Shelly S) Subject: RE: help fishgirls and Ji-heads Ok, hmmmmm...what about Jian am I attracted to or why is he my lad-of-choice... Quite simply, before I had gone to my first concert, I knew their music and like it but as far as I knew, the names of the band members could have been Manny, Moe, Jack, and Ike.... At my first concert, I found myself focusing on Jian, watching him more than the others(although I WAS watching Murray, too) He just has an energy that attracts/holds your attention. I remember talking with my friend on the way home about him NON-STOP......hence, a Ji-head was born....1/1/99 Now that I have attended more concerts, talked to the lads,etc., I must say my appreciation of/for Jian has grown because of his social consciousness and a great amalgam of things. So there you are!(PS-do I get extra credit for using the word "amalgam"?) Shelly S "I would not eat them in the rain, or even with the KING OF SPAIN!"(me on the FruWall...back in the day...) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:30:53 GMT From: "Bill34537371@online-pro.com" Subject: FEEL 10 YEARS YOUNGER! IMPROVE SEXUAL POTENCY!! (77826) What would you pay to look and feel 10 years younger? Would you be interested in increasing energy levels by 84%? How about Increasing Sexual Potency & Frequency by 75%? Would you like to increase your Muscle Strength by 88% While..... At the same time...... Reducing Body Fat by 82% and Wrinkles by 61%? Of Course you would! Well we have the Amazing HGH Releasor product to help you achieve all of this and more! PLUS~~~~ We have the scientific proof to back it up! Turn Back The Clock and Turn Up the Energy Now! To find out more click NOW!! http://www.1freespace.com/biz/dfsoab/sunrise.html This message is being sent to you in compliance with the proposed Federal legislation for commercial e-mail (S.1618-SECTION 301). "Pursuant to Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618, further transmissions to you by the sender of this e-mail may be stopped at no cost to you. Just click here mailto:uyfa3@asianoffice.com and place REMOVE in the subject ************************* 65749 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:38:16 GMT From: mossy_fruitloops@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Newbie Alert! Jewelee wrote: > Anyway, I thought I should just introduce myself to everyone > (except for Jeni (mossy_fruitloops) since she already knows me and > she's the one that introduced me to the band anyways). I can't wait to > meet and get to know the rest of you guys! From my lurking and what > Jeni says, you all seem like reeeally cool (and some of you are a > little crazy!) people!! Yay! I'm so glad that you have come out of your lurking status! I told you nobody bites on this newsgroup! I hope everyone welcomes you with open arms. :-) I can't wait until we go see Moxy Fruvous in New Jersey! Does anyone have stories to tell of their first Moxy Fruvous concert or any of their cocnerts? Just wondering, just so we'll know what to expect. :-) Talk with you later tater! Jeni Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:37:50 GMT From: mossy_fruitloops@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Newbie Alert! Jewelee wrote: > Anyway, I thought I should just introduce myself to everyone > (except for Jeni (mossy_fruitloops) since she already knows me and > she's the one that introduced me to the band anyways). I can't wait to > meet and get to know the rest of you guys! From my lurking and what > Jeni says, you all seem like reeeally cool (and some of you are a > little crazy!) people!! Yay! I'm so glad that you have come out of your lurking status! I told you nobody bites on this newsgroup! I hope everyone welcomes you with open arms. :-) I can't wait until we go see Moxy Fruvous in New Jersey! Does anyone have stories to tell of their first Moxy Fruvous concert or any of their cocnerts? Just wondering, just so we'll know what to expect. :-) Talk with you later tater! Jeni Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:23:38 -0800 From: RedHairBr Subject: Re: OT: Guster?...okay, fill me in here... In article <38d15c75$0$40648@news.voyager.net>, "^kat^" wrote: >besides, it'd be a tough call between guster & great big sea in >dayton that night, anyway. :) Oooh! GBS!!! One of the few bands I've had the honor of being introduced to by my non-Militia Michigan friend...saw them live at the Ark in Ann Arbor when I went to visit him. Bottom line: They had me clapping and dancing along with their music by the end of the night. Now back to your regularly-scheduled newsgroup postings... * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:40:14 GMT From: mossy_fruitloops@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Newbie Alert! Jewelee wrote: > Anyway, I thought I should just introduce myself to everyone > (except for Jeni (mossy_fruitloops) since she already knows me and > she's the one that introduced me to the band anyways). I can't wait to > meet and get to know the rest of you guys! From my lurking and what > Jeni says, you all seem like reeeally cool (and some of you are a > little crazy!) people!! Yay! I'm so glad that you have come out of your lurking status! I told you nobody bites on this newsgroup! I hope everyone welcomes you with open arms. :-) I can't wait until we go see Moxy Fruvous in New Jersey! Does anyone have stories to tell of their first Moxy Fruvous concert or any of their cocnerts? Just wondering, just so we'll know what to expect. :-) Talk with you later tater! Jeni Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:55:42 GMT From: Lori Martin Subject: [Fwd: problems with fhdc?] Lori Martin wrote: > Arbie oh-so-logically said: > >> Not that I'm a much of a regular around there but I have heard >> that there >> have been some isp problems. Btw FDC is hosted by the same isp so >> a quick >> way to check where the problem is would be to check both. If they >> are both >> down the isp could be assumed to be the problem, if only one is >> down, well, >> a broader range of possibilities exists. (lets see....site >> overload, >> maintenance, site crash, finances, net congestion, your >> isp....blah blah) > > And here I thought it was all *my* fault, for uploading so much so > fast in an attempt to escape the clinging clasping stifling > suffocating tendrils of AOHell's webspace.. Seems like every time I > add a page fhdc crashes right before I get the last couple of files > set up .... > > -- Lori "what, it's NOT all about me?!" > Glitter Fairy/Tattooing Fru > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.fruhead.com/users/Lori/index.html > - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.fruhead.com/users/Lori/index.html ------------------------------ Date: 17 Mar 2000 03:16:22 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: OT: Guster?...okay, fill me in here... >>slap my wrists now and get it over with<< no, no, no-- there will be no violence here. After all, I think its safe to say that if we all bought CDs by *every* band that was praised here, we'd all be in the poor house. But yeah-- go. It's a good time. And besides the fact that they're just really talented and whole bundle of fun, they're going to be hugely popular someday really soon. (I've consulted the Magic 8 Ball this, so its scientifically proven fact). If you're looking for some 'net stuff, go to www.guster.com, and click on links. One of the links there is called "the mezzanine" (which I probably spelled wrong), which has a whole lot of live MP3s. (At least, that's the word on the street. I wouldn't know from personal experience ::kicks computer from 1991:: ) They're also going to be on Craig Kilborne on Monday April 3rd, so you can check 'em out then ;-) have fun! ~jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23"-- Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."--Rent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:21:57 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: Mass Transit performs KOS!!! Hey HEy!!! So here i am in virginia again just visiting with my frufriends and we decided to go check out one of JMU's a capella groups, Exit 245... when we got there, we were surprised to find another group there - from NYU, Mass Transit *grin*. Sadly, I'd never heard of their existence on my own campus (i go to NYU) so it was kind of ironic that i should hear them here for the first time... So anyways, they get up there to sing a few songs and King of Spain was one of them - when there were major cheers from our section the group just kind of laughed at us and smiled. hehee. anyways... I was pretty entermused with the lyric changes (mebbe that's just cause i live there and can appreciate it)... "and now i work at St. Marks pizza" "people lean on my every remark / and now i sell drugs in washington square park" "how i came to be living in manhattan" "the economy is bad and no one plans it / and now i'm jamming with mass transit" allright, well maybe i'm just a bit too excited but the whole experience was just to weird :D check you kids later. take it easy, Special J! http://www.geocities.com/jodapuff/ http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:21:37 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: OT Re:(+Rant/Starbucks) Spake Lori Martin : >-- Lori, who wonders why Vika is no longer the Patron Saint of Caffeine. Er, speaking of college and/or graduate school experiences... Having OD'd a couple times on caffeine (notably the little evil very very tasty chocolate covered espresso beans) and felt REALLY bad, Vika has denounced caffeine as the sole source of sustenance. Still able to appreciate a fine cup of coffee, and UNable to find it anywhere but in Italy and at her place (oh, and that made by Mom), she is waiting to hear if she has the summer teaching job on the other side of the pond, so she can finally enjoy a good cup. :) - -v (there IS a moral to this story, kids... don't OD on the beans whilst pursuing knowledge. It's a crappy feeling which leaves you jittery and helpless.) - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:05:52 -0800 From: RedHairBr Subject: Semi-new West Coast Fru Hellllllllo all... Thought I'd re-intro myself...I came on this board for a short while right after Live Noise was released, and quicky lost any and all free time I had to post or read, so, sadly, stopped paying attention. But, now, I'm back. The name's Dave (the nickname has to do with many things that I won't go into right now...lengthens out to Red Haired Bear), and I live in the L.A. area of California. I just found out today that *sob* the guys played near me last year, and I had NO CLUE...*sigh* However, I am DEFINITELY planning on catching them this year...hopefully at the show in May in San Francisco, but if not then, at another venue. I'm thrilled they're finally touring my area of the U.S. Aaanyhow...just thought I'd say hi...and I'll figger out all the tricks of the Fruvous trade as I go along :) Dave P.S. True blue fan...I DO have all their albums...managed to find Wood and B when I visited a friend of mine in Michigan (but he's not a member of their Militia, darn my luck...) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 2000 20:55:21 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: Re: More help... Fishgirl is a term used to describe those fans (usually a subset of JiHead, but not always... there are quite a few Murray Fishgirls) who go all googly-eyed when they see that member of the band who tickles their fish-like fancy. The name fish-girl is from the fish-like look on their faces when their eyes bug out. There are different levels of fishgirl-ism. The extremety of obnoxiousness (and they're not all obnoxious, I'm talking heavy-duty fishgirl here) can go to someone who just likes the band because they saw a picture of their beloved. One may also be described as a fishgirl if they have a tendency to babble on and on about one member of the band. There are also a few scattered male fishgirls. I find that fishgirl-ism is more in attitude than action. Sometimes talking to someone you would initially describe as a fishgirl, you will find that there is a legitimate reason that they are particularly interested in or have a certain affection for one member of the band... but often its just looks. Another important point: Fishgirl is not always an insult. One may say affectionately to a dear friend after observing them at a concert, "Oh, Jane, you're such a fishgirl!" Well, that's my take on it. And please, remember that labels are evil. Do not be quick to judge anyone. :) "To believe that knowledge is ignorance is noble. To believe that ignorance is knowledge is evil." - -unknown "You'll have to lose your mind before you can come to your senses!" - -Socrates, Way of the Peaceful Warrior Gella ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:46:36 GMT From: "Stephanie Hodges" Subject: Re: fhdc So spake Lori: > If everyone sent its hard-working webmaster just a > buck or two to defray costs, that would keep it running for a good > long time. (like, YEARS.) Oui, j'ai d'accord (Neek is brushing up on her French these days). If that is a solution, to where do we send the money? > If you use FHDC -- if you're on the wall a few hours each week > (day?!), if you've got pages there, if it's helped you find > reduced-rate Fruspace or hitch a ride to a show -- *please* make a > donation. It's been a boon (and heaps of fun) to lots of people, and > Josh shouldn't have to swallow all the costs involved. I know I'm not ready to give up my FHDC webspace. Don't make me switch to Geocities! I'm only one step away from registering for a domain, and that's because I don't really have commercial content at this point. I just hope there's a version of "Neek" that's available as a domain name. Did you know nique.com is a site for adult erotica? Stephanie "Frunique" Hodges http://fruhead.com/users/Frunique Broken picture links fixed as soon as FHDC operates today. "Nothing anyone planned on, 'You-Neek' in all creation." - --singing along to MPG, 2.19.00 :) "She's away and westward bound; Out among the clouds she'll fly." - --Gordon Lightfoot, "Early Morning Rain" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:49:29 -0800 From: "Arbie" Subject: Re: problems with fhdc? - -Kristin asked: >Is anyone else having problems accessing FHDC? It keeps on telling me that I'm >forbidden from viewing it or my webpage. Not that I'm a much of a regular around there but I have heard that there have been some isp problems. Btw FDC is hosted by the same isp so a quick way to check where the problem is would be to check both. If they are both down the isp could be assumed to be the problem, if only one is down, well, a broader range of possibilities exists. (lets see....site overload, maintenance, site crash, finances, net congestion, your isp....blah blah) - -- Arbie "Reply to" address altered to discourage spammers, sorry for the inconvenience. afru@nospamdirect.ca - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A university creative writing class was asked to write a concise essay containing the following elements 1] Religion 2] Royalty 3] Sex 4] Mystery The prize-winning essay read: "My God," said the queen, "I'm pregnant. I wonder who did it?" (*we* know that it was The King of Spain, right? ;-)) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:35:24 GMT From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kyla?= Subject: Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School - --- Princess wrote: > >To what extent would the possibility of frequent concerts sway your > own > >choice of school? > > I like to think that living on the left coast, in a land fruvous > doesn't > frequent often, I get that much more enjoyment out of a show knowing > it will be > a while until I see them again. If I got to see them weekly it might > lose some > of the magic. I agree... i'm only a high school sophomore but out guidance counselors are asking us where we want to go to school and what we want to major in (neither of which I am sure about) but my decision of location of schools is only undecided because i can't decide whether i like left-coast concerts, where there aren't too many people and if you like the band a lot it's really easy to land a seat about 10 feet from the stage, or east-coast concerts, where (according to what i've heard) the concerts are big and it's more like a real concert (with seats for the audience, etc) than just the informal come-and-listen-to-us-entertain-you thing that i am now used to, even if they are less often. anyway, that's my little rant for now. - --kyla ===== AIM: canadan2 ICQ: 37135028 ?:^) marion sez: hi everyone! we miss u cedric! the clarinet is an instrument, the only worse of which is two. - ---ambrose bierce--- (that one's for you, heather!)__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 02:42:05 GMT From: Daniel Fox Subject: Essay about the Gulf War Song Hi guys! I’m writing an essay about the Gulf War Song, comparing it to John Lennon’s “Imagine”. I plan to examine them as an anti-war text vs. a pro-peace text. Since there is no shortage of people here full of bright ideas, I was wondering if I could tap into this newsgroup as a resource. It will be about 1000 words, and its for a 2nd year media course at UWO entitled “Killer Culture”. Its a course about war, and the prof is decidedly left-of-center politically, so I thought it would be a good idea to introduce him to Moxy, and at the same time write about something I know. Others are writing their essays about war texts such as “Slaughterhouse-Five”, “Johnny Got a Gun”, “Full Metal Jacket” and “Platoon”. I’ve never been one to stick to the guidelines, so instead of writing about books or movies, I’m writing about music. If anyone has any suggestions or comments, I'd love to hear idea from the newsgroup. If you contribute in a substantial way to my essay, I will of course give you full credit. :-) I will post a copy of this paper to my website after I get it back. Thanks, Daniel Fox http://publish.uwo.ca/~djfox/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:02:18 GMT From: melinda klump Subject: Re: Help Fishgirls and JiHeads! i'm can't rightly call myself a ji-head, and definitely not a fishgirl, but i think what makes jian easy for us all to relate to (and i've said this all before, so friends forgive me), is that all his emotions and insecurities are right out there on the surface. he can't keep his mouth shut, and even if he could, his face would give it all away. he's an open book, and very obviously human. how can you not feel a sort of kinship to a person like that? i think his ability to be vulnerable in front of us all is also a great part of his success as a performer, and it is admirable as well as endearing. That's probably not the kind of thing you're looking for, but its all i have to offer. :) melinda > From: FruCake1@aol.com > Organization: Cohesive Technology Solutions > Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous > Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:53:06 GMT > To: ammf@fruvous.com > Subject: Help Fishgirls and JiHeads! > > I have a question for all of you. What turns you on about Jian? I'm working > on a "special project" and need this information so please send them to : > FruCake1@aol.com. This isn't restricted to just Jian fans (we all love him), > so come on...... share your stories. I would really, really appreciate it! > > Thank you so much! > > Lisa Bills > ------------------------------ Date: 19 Mar 2000 01:17:26 GMT From: shellyus@aol.comnojunk (Shelly S) Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie I LOVE to talk about my first Früvous concert, because it is such a cool story! My best friend, who had gotten me into their music, "kidnapped " a friend and I amd took us to NYC for the day on 1/1/99 to make up for the fact that he didn't call me on my 30th b-day(BAAAAD BEST FRIEND!)...we did not know where we were going or what we were doing...all he said was that dinner was on him and the rest of the time we'd make up as we went.... So, we got into town and he made us wait at a gourmet shop...he re-joined us and we bopped around.....we made a day of it....bopped into pubs, drank, did silly things, then we had dinner at his FAVORITE restaurant there and decided we'd go elsewher for dessert....getting the MOST out of our day in NYC.....said he knew of a place near NYU.......so, we hop back on the subway & head near the Village...we are walking in the FREEZING COLD(anyone who was there KNOWS what I am talking about!!)to get dessert and walk by The Bottom Line...see the line, big deal...we walk ahead and then my friend Cor(who did the kidnapping)yelled for me to come back & look at something near the back o the line(like a windo sign) and then he pulled out tickets for the show!!!! We had NO IDEA that they were even in town and I'd NEVER seen them!!! It was a special experience for me because HE was the one who got me into their music, that he did it to make up for the birthday thing, and that it was a surprise and a truly selfless gesture and he had a GREAT time surprising me with it. Now we are apart(long story) but remain the best of friends, and whevener I hear or see Früvous, I think of him.... And that is the story of my FIRST Moxy Früvous concert. The End! Shelly S ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #155 ********************************************