From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #153 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, March 23 2000 Volume 04 : Number 153 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School [Maggie Deegan ] Re: I Have Questions... [mmstevens18@cs.comwhatever (Princess)] OT: Re: first album, etc. [Rachel R Beck ] Re: new question on bands.. [Aryn - Marietta Eaton ] Re: little trickier: Fruvous or Spain? [vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School [vika@attglobal.net (Vika Za] Re: Other Bands [MC ] Re: [GRAD SCHOOL v. CONCERTS] [Ellen ] Re: fhdc [Frances Meale ] Fru-Head West [mike96@bluecrow.com (Mike Yoshioka)] little trickier: Fruvous or Spain? [spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1)] I Have Questions... [MoxyOne22@aol.com] Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School [Ellen Subject: Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School In article <38cd48a4.954490501@news.bluecrow.com>, mike96@bluecrow.com (Mike Yoshioka) wrote: > On 13 Mar 2000 07:27:33 GMT, mmstevens18@cs.comwhatever (Princess) > wrote: > > > > >I like to think that living on the left coast, in a land fruvous doesn't > > *snip* > > getting off topic once again, (as I always do) but where abouts on the > left coast are you? If you're in the Pacific North Left, please stay > tuned for Fru-Head West details :) > lol please ignore my stupidity. i meant *east* coast. *sigh* i have had far too little sleep lately... heeheehee... ~Maggie~ > - -- "I think it's like a different level in there... kinda trippy." ~ Vicky R. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:13:02 GMT From: frustar Subject: Re: Moxy Fruvous World TONITE! Ah, Moxy Fruvous World... Very interesting show. Unfortunately I am unable to tape the show for you since I will be working until 10 pm. But I will keep a look out and see if they will be repeating it again... Since I already taped the show last month on Bravo last month. ttyl anna EricJ wrote: > If anyone plans on taping this let me know...I'd love to get a copy if > you're willing to make me one. Thanks. > > -Eric Jackson > > > Okay, there must be a problem with the gateway or something again, I > > posted this on Sunday, but it seems to have gone missing, so I'll post > > directly using deja. Hopefully the world will get out there. > > > > Anyway, Bravo (Canadian verision) is replying "Moxy Fruvous World" > > tonight (Tuesday the 14th) at 8:30 EST. So everyone set your VCRs, sit > > back and enjoy. > > > > I've never seen it, so I'm looking forward to it... :) > > > > The website is http://www.bravo.ca, if you want more info (not that > > there is much more, but whatever). > > > > Sara ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 2000 07:04:20 GMT From: mmstevens18@cs.comwhatever (Princess) Subject: Re: I Have Questions... >Complete speculation, but I think a lot of the covers come from way >back when Mike, Jian, and Murray were in a cover band. So when Dave >came along and there wasn't a lot of original music to play, I'm >sure a lot of the covers from the Chia Pets days popped out. Stuff like >WKRP and the Road Runner Song prolly came from busking, where catchy >and familiar tunes might get someone's attention. OK, I need some help on the whole "Chia Pets" thing. Cover tunes are my passion. I've got a tape of cover tunes called "Freedom of Choice" which contains a cover of "Don't You Want Me Baby" by Chia Pet.2 girls sing the song, and there is no mention of a Mike, Murray, or Jian in the band list in the liner notes. Is there more than one band called Chia Pet out there? Is it a rotating cast of characters? I suppose the world won't end if I don't learn the answers, but now I'm intrigued, so if someone knows I'd sure be thankful. Cheers, M ******************************************** i'm callin all the freaks from the freak freak planet i'm a freak magnet -- Violent Femmes "Freak Magnet" ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 03:31:02 GMT From: Rachel R Beck Subject: OT: Re: first album, etc. First vinyl: I think the first I ever owned was the Sesame Street album with the Pointer Sisters singing "Yes We Can Can," but the first album I actively coveted was my best friend's 45 (!) of Cyndi Lauper's "She is So Unusual." Most recent vinyl: Purple Rain First cassette: This was either a Disney version of Peter and the Wolf or Fraggle Rock. I still love and listen to my Fraggle tape. Dance your cares away! Most recent cassette: Boiled in Lead, "From the Ladle to the Grave" (I think) First CD: I didn't have access to a CD player until late in high school, so this was a much more recent acquisition--the Bartok Concerto for Orchestra. Most recent CD: Danny Michel's current disc (can't remember the name right now; hasn't arrived yet) First concert: John Denver in Minneapolis. My mom took me. I was four years old and I was _crushed_ (to the point of wailing) that the security wouldn't let me go get JD's autograph. Most recent concert: Fruvous in Toronto, Saturday, Feb. 19 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:05:39 GMT From: Aryn - Marietta Eaton Subject: Re: new question on bands.. I still have all 4 CD's, not that I've listened to them in years, but I can't quite bring myself to get rid of them yet. I was in Toys R Us right before christmas and they were playing one of The Party's earliest songs on the sound system, that would have made my day when I was 15, now it throughly frightened me. Aryn, who used to have the lyrics to 2 Party songs on written on her convers high tops, now I have one that was signed by the fru lads. - --- Maggie Deegan wrote: > THE PARTY?!? i *loved* the party! i played that > tape so much that i > friggin' broke it! heehee. the only song i > remember is their cover of > the Elvis Costello song "what's so funny (about > peace love and > understandin')." heh... i bet you can't find them > anymore... > > ~Maggie~ > > -- > "I think it's like a different level in there... > kinda trippy." ~ > Vicky R. > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > ===== Aryn - Marietta Eaton Lady Caelfind ni Mullen (called Alanna) Chatalaine and Minister of Children, shire of Innersea Offical Nothrshield Pouncer, CoFounder, House Ferrit Self professed Star Wars, U2, and Moxy Fruvous Fanatic "Dude, Jesus is hot!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:12:05 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: little trickier: Fruvous or Spain? Spain. Oh, you want a reason? :) (N.B.: I could write a book on this. I'll spare you.) Being abroad, especially (forgive me) for an American, whose idea of close-abroad contains only two countries (as opposed to a European, who can visit 3 in a weekend in his/her car), is an un-substitute-able experience. There will be other chances to go to Spain? Perhaps, depends on the unexpected turns your life will undoubtedly take in the next 5-10 years. Don't miss this opportunity, or any opportunity to travel abroad, when it presents itself to you. (Also, being younger rather than older, you'd be more likely to want to spend as little money as absolutely possible, and thus jump through hoops, stay in youth hostels which usually have an upper age limit, meet amazing people and go waaaaay off the beaten touristy path.) Go to Spain, if you don't want to force me to write you a personal book on why you should. ;) - -v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:08:39 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School Spake Rachel R Beck : >To what extent would the possibility of frequent concerts sway your own >choice of school? It didn't. In the end, much as I loooooooove Fruvous, I would have gone to Alaska if the best program for me were there. However, what *did* sway me was the fact that I didn't want to move too far away from the Boston area. Which limited my choices, and I am damn lucky that the two schools that ended up tying for first choice with me (Brown and NYU) were reasonably close. Money was a consideration as well, so when NYU gave me less of it, considering the difference in the cost of living in Boston as compared to NYC, I just stayed in B-town and now commute to Providence, RI for a second year in a row. There are many, many factors in weighing graduate programs. Fruvous concert frequency in the area should definitely not be one of them. But that's just my opinion. :) Do e-mail me privately if you want to talk further. - -v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:28:19 GMT From: MC Subject: Re: Other Bands Hey, I saw that you like Blinker the Star...you might be interested toknow that the band is doing a chat tomorrow night, Wednesday February 15 at 6 pm. It's gonna be on www.amuznet.com . cheers. n article <89f4h6$pcm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, tmbgirl@my-deja.com wrote: > > > (Princess) wrote: > > So, what other bands/artists are y'all into? > > Ash > Beck > Blinker The Star > Bran van 3000 > Candy Butchers > Citizen King > Color Me Badd > Nick Drake > Eddie From Ohio > Judith Edelman *yay* > Mike Errico > Lincoln > Chris Lowe > Marcy Playground > Erin mckeown > mindgoflip.com > mr t experience > nerf herder > plastilina mosh > push stars > self > michael shelley *yay* > soul coughing > run dmc > violent femmes > zogbog bean *yay* > > check 'em out, check 'em totally out! > > take it easy, JordAN > http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/frucon.html <-frucon pics > http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/art.html <-frusketches > *GASP* NO TMBG? > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:47:37 -0800 From: Ellen Subject: Re: [GRAD SCHOOL v. CONCERTS] In article <20000313143706.21164.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net>, Katherine Bunting wrote: >When I was choosing between grad schools senior year, I was > besieged by people telling me, "Where you choose to go to grad > school is even more important than where you went as an > undergrad." I've found that, give or take, they were mostly- > right. Heh. I posted almost the same thing Kate did wrt this subject. ;) Not only did I hear the "where you went to college is not nearly as important as where you went to grad school," schpiel, in grad school I also heard the revised version: "where you do your graduate work is not nearly as important as where you do your post-doc." peace, ellen (by-passed the post-doc thing so i don't know if there's another version of it that they tell postdocs...) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:40:29 GMT From: Frances Meale Subject: Re: fhdc Lori: Thanks for the info. I didn't think you appeared snotty at all. A while back, I did wish to make a contribution, but since there was not a deficit at that time, there was no need to make a contribution. I too just emailed the Webmaster (Josh?) and inquired about contributing. I haven't heard anything yet. So if you're out there Webmaster, drop me a line. Regards, Frances Lori Martin wrote: > Melanie wrote: > > > Lori, after I joined FHDC, I tried at least twice to make a contribution > > and got no response. I stopped trying, figuring that nothing was > > needed. Tell me how and I'd be happy to contribute > > This is the second such tale I've heard. I do know that fhdc states that > donations are only accepted when there's a shortage not a surplus. Other > than that -- Josh? > > BTW, I didn't mean to sound snotty with my previous message -- I just saw a > deficit of over $100 and got rather alarmed. (Uh, I *value* this site, and > I think a lot of us do. :) ) > > -- Lori > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.fruhead.com/users/Lori/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:29:40 GMT From: mike96@bluecrow.com (Mike Yoshioka) Subject: Fru-Head West Okie, it's been talked about (by me) , rumoured (by me) and everyone is waiting for it (well, I am) and here's the not even close to final information! : Fru-Head West: It's going to be a general get together at my place. Come, have fun, meet other Fru-Heads, and uhm, try not to get into any trouble. Right now we're thinking end of April, wildBill is going to be out of country, and norg has ooooother plans (*hint* we're not good enough ;) ) I live in Aldergrove , British Columbia , my address says Abbotsford, but it's Aldergrove really. Basically it's just north of Bellingham WA , and sandwiched in between Abbotsford and Langley. I've got a big screen TV with DVD, a hot tub, a pool table, a big backyard, and a playstation. Oh, and my neighbours are separated by trees ;) Hopefully we'll be able to get Hester and Tanya to liven up mikesbathtub.com (no that site is not real :P, and if it is, it's not mine!) So, if anyone is interested. (Please tell me you're interested, I need to feel the love 8) ) E-mail me @ mike96@bluecrow.com or racer@hockeymail.com and let me know when a good time would be for you. Mike aka Racer aka RacerMike PS There's a ton of crash space, please feel free to sleep on the couches and floors :) PPS Hopefully everyone will have enough fun that we can start doing it every 4 to 6 weeks. Fruvous might not come to play here but for once in a blue moon, but we can still get together :) ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 2000 03:52:42 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: little trickier: Fruvous or Spain? Okay... here's the deal. I've gotten into all 4 colleges I applied to. Yes, 4. Yes, they were all safety schools. Don't be proud of me. One of them, SUNY Purchase offers a semester abroad program for freshman year. So, I might have an oppurtunity to go to Burgos, Spain for at least half a year. God knows I would LOVE to go far FAR away from just about everything in my life right now... except for two things: A guy named Jason and Moxy Fruvous. Now the Jason problem is reduced a bit: he grew up in Spain and has been looking for an excuse to go back for years. He'd visit probably at least once a month. I don't know how, but I know him and he'll pull it off. As for Fruvous, well, it's a little trickier. Okay, here's where you say she's nuts! It's 5 months in Spain! I only see Fruvous once every 5 months if I'm lucky anyway! What is her deal? Well, my deal is that I look forward to the next Fruvous concert as if it were my next meal. Right now I get to eat once every month or two. (figuratively, of course) When I don't see the lads I miss them. I mean I really REALLY miss them to a rediculous extent. By the time a month passes without the lads I collect bunches of letters I write to them with no intention of sending them. Every page of my journal contains the word Fruvous at least 7 times. When I'm not writing I'm reliving concerts and moments after concerts with a hug from Murray or kind words from Jian, a thank you to or from Dave or a strange look from Mike. This might be because I dislike the life I'm living now. Maybe it would be different in Spain. Maybe I should just get over it and get used to not seeing them every month. In fact, I'm sure I should because this has got to be unhealthy... I mean... did you read what I just wrote? It's crazy! But the thing is that here I live in New York City, a pretty good location, FruShow-wise. Purchase campus is 20 minutes away so it's not too different. Spain is far far away and right now I have this choice. I don't know how any of this would affect my life otherwise. I'm living an experiment and I have no hypothesis for the outcome. There will be other chances to go to Spain, there will be other FruShows. Other bands. Things in my life other than music. (though likely not much) I honestly don't know what to do. What do any of you think? "To believe that knowledge is ignorance is noble. To believe that ignorance is knowledge is evil." - -unknown "You'll have to lose your mind before you can come to your senses!" - -Socrates, Way of the Peaceful Warrior Gella ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:07:17 GMT From: MoxyOne22@aol.com Subject: I Have Questions... Hello all. I've never posted here before, and being a member of several fan-based mailing lists, I fully understand and respect everyone's dedication and knowledge of everything Fruvous. Being a fan for only about a year now, I have a few questions (which I hope don't sound too stupid) I was hoping some of you could answer for me: 1) I know somewhat of the connection between Moxy Fruvous and Barenaked Ladies. On 'Bucknaked' ('88ish) the Barenaked Ladies recorded both Psycho Killer and the The Road Runner Song, and I noticed Moxy Fruvous have also performed both these songs. I was wondering if this is more than a coincidence, and where abouts one could find the fruvous copy of The Road Runner Song? 2) I have forever lost my copy of 'wood' and was wondering if someone would be so kind as to tell me who wrote Nuits de Reve? 3) I was also wondering which copy of 'Green Eggs and Ham' I have?? The version I have is nothing like any of the copies listed at fruvous.com. If anyone knows of other versions floating around and where they originated, would ya help me out?? 4) Back to the connection with the Barenaked Ladies, I know they sang backup on If I Had $1,000,000. The other Toronto based duo (and definately another of my favorite groups) Chris Brown & Kate Fenner (formerly of the Bourbon Tabernacle Choir) also sang backup on that track. I was wondering if the connetion between fruvous and Chris & Kate went any further? I know Chris and have meet him several times, but never asked. Please e-mail me back personally if you could help me out at all here. I would greatly appreciate it, being a fruvous-newbie and all. Thanks... Kelley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:42:00 -0800 From: Ellen Subject: Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School Hoo boy. Not this again. In article <20000312.215715.-282189.2.whollyword@juno.com>, Rachel R Beck wrote: >To what extent would the possibility of frequent concerts sway > your own choice of school? It wouldn't, and no, it shouldn't. Please, people, it's great that you love fruvous and all that, but letting something like a favorite band's tour schedule have any sway over where you get your education is foolish. Think of it this way: if you end up in a place with the best graduate program for you that is fruvous-scarce, you will get the education you need and somehow you'll make sure you get to a couple of shows every year anyway. You might even find 8 other bands there that you like as well. If you end up in a place with lots of fruvous shows but the wrong program, you'll be happy those 5 or 10 times a year that fruvous comes to your area. And miserable the rest of the time. Oh, and it might just affect your chances of having the career you want, too. Just a minor point. Please take your education seriously. Don't ever let a decision like where to go to college or grad school rest on where one band plays. Don't even factor it in. Lest you think I am advising against considering *anything* about how you'll spend your free time in grad school, do think about the bigger picture. Don't go someplace in the frozen north if you hate cold weather, unless you know the program is going to be wonderful enough to make up for it. Do lean towards places with a really good local music scene if seeing bands is very important to you (just don't lean towards anything based on ONE band). Do consider things like city dwelling vs. outdoorsy pursuits; cosmopolitan vs. small-town. And in all of these cases, consider these things as they should be: i.e. if the program is really what I want, can I live with the rest? Because really, you won't have anywhere near as much free time as you'd like, and while it's important to consider all these things, the one that's going to have the most profound effect on your happiness is going to be the school you chose. Believe me; I know. ;) peace, ellen * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:48:52 -0500 From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: little trickier: Fruvous or Spain? Spin0za1 wrote: > By the time a month passes without the lads I collect > bunches of letters I write to them with no intention of sending them. Every > page of my journal contains the word Fruvous at least 7 times. When I'm not > writing I'm reliving concerts and moments after concerts with a hug from Murray > or kind words from Jian, a thank you to or from Dave or a strange look from > Mike. This might be because I dislike the life I'm living now. Maybe it would > be different in Spain. Maybe I should just get over it and get used to not > seeing them every month. In fact, I'm sure I should because this has got to be > unhealthy... I mean... did you read what I just wrote? It's crazy! Heh Gella, You are definitely obsessed. (I mean that in the kindest possible way). Going to Spain very possibly would help you moderate that obsession. Reason one to go. Most fans go through an obsessive phase. Not all equally acute, but obsessive nevertheless. Given time your obsession will probably settle down to more reasonable levels. That fact is yet another reason why you should go to Spain. It may seem like this is a tough choice now, but in 10 years I guarantee you, if you don't go to Spain, you will be giving yourself the hugest Kick In The Ass(tm) that you can imagine. > There will be other chances to go to Spain, there > will be other FruShows. Other bands. Things in my life other than music. > (though likely not much) The last 3, absolutely. The first one... Not necessarily. Hopefully, but you'd be surprised how much harder it is to go later in life. > I honestly don't know what to do. What do any of you > think? This is a no brainer, Gella. Go to Spain. Go for as long as you can. (I studied abroad for only one semester because I didn't think I wanted to be away from my friends for longer. Big Mistake. Do a year if at all possible.) Going abroad is SUCH a growth experience. You just cannot duplicate the effects ANY other way. If you think Fruvous has been important in your life, just wait and see what Spain will do to you! Clear enough? :) A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:46:26 GMT From: Katherine Bunting Subject: Re: [GRAD SCHOOL v. CONCERTS] This answer may seem to parallel to the one I had for Megan, but for different reasons. In this case, grad school covers a more broad period of time than a one-night event like a prom, so there's a potential for missing more concerts than just the one! However, Grad School can have a profound impact on the course of the rest of your life. Without knowing what field you're in (congrats on acceptance letters, BTW! Always good to know you're going *somewhere!*), from my experience, my choice of grad school directly affected my career opportunities, and indirectly affected the number and type of choices I've been given in a lot of areas. In one sense, I'm not 'quite' in the same situation; my final list of schools I chose from were in Albany, northern New Jersey (not "too" far from Philadelphia shows, New York City shows, etc.), and the Washington, D.C. area. (I'm attending a school in the latter.) While I'm certainly glad to have had reasonably Fru-friendly areas to choose between, when it came down to the line, what the school had to offer, and the quality of the experience was more important. Say you choose a school in a more-Fru-frequented area, but it's not one you particularly care for. While Fruvous may come to the area from time to time, this is good... However, you're spending the other 360 days a year being a graduate student there. That's an awful lot of time to be in a place that isn't doing for you as much as you could 'potentially' be doing somewhere else. Consider also the possible alternatives: is your hometown, or somewhere you would visit regularly on holidays or other visits a Fru-friendly area? Say you go to one of the more Fru-remote schools; Fruvous schedules a concert near to where your folks live; coordinate a quick trip home for a visit (even mid-week), and catch the Fru-show at the same time! Or, from another perspective, even grad schools have Spring Break. Save your pennies, bide your time, and when the calendars come out, find out where they're playing and go see them-- *wherever* they happen to be! It might be a totally-different area from where you'd ordinarily go to see them based on travel and proximity, but you'd get to see some Fru-shows and be away from campus! Maybe that could make up for some shows you'd miss by having gone to school somewhere 'closer.' When I was choosing between grad schools senior year, I was besieged by people telling me, "Where you choose to go to grad school is even more important than where you went as an undergrad." I've found that, give or take, they were mostly-right. I'm sure there are folks out there who would disagree with that, but if your decision to go to grad school is part of a career-based plan, the options they have for you (what professors are there, what they're researching, what people who graduate from there do after graduation) should ultimately be ruling your decisions. I have no doubt your parents would keel over-- so would mine! I mentioned to them that I was considering choosing a grad school to be closer to friends of mine (I'm from the Boston-area; went to college in Ohio-- *very* remote from where my high school friends went!), after having been elsewhere for four years... I thought my Mom was going to throttle me! But when I had a good think about it, they had good reason to keel. While I may not get to see that group of friends as often as I like, going to the school I'm at now is getting me to a place where, when I'm done, I can live where I want to, have a secure income, and have the resources to do the things I want to do. For instance... go to Fruvous concerts! That's more than two-cents'-worth, but it's my honest opinion; if you'd like to talk some more about it, please feel free to send me an email! It's a give-and-take kind of situation, but you have to do what's right for you. All the best, and good luck! - - Kate To what extent would the possibility of frequent concerts sway your own choice of school? - - -Rachel, whose parents would keel over if they knew she were posting such a thing "Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #153 ********************************************