From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #146 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, March 14 2000 Volume 04 : Number 146 Today's Subjects: ----------------- FEEL 10 YEARS YOUNGER - INCREASE SEXUAL POTENCY (191116) ["CaseyJ8943049@] Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School [mmstevens18@cs.comwhatever ] Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School [vika@attglobal.net (Vika Za] Re: [GRAD SCHOOL v. CONCERTS] [Katherine Bunting ] Re: I Have Questions... [Chad Maloney ] Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School [mike96@bluecrow.com (Mike Y] Re: new question on bands.. [Aryn - Marietta Eaton ] Re: AIYE! ny/nj tourdates!! 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Cheers, M ******************************************** i'm callin all the freaks from the freak freak planet i'm a freak magnet -- Violent Femmes "Freak Magnet" ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:08:39 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School Spake Rachel R Beck : >To what extent would the possibility of frequent concerts sway your own >choice of school? It didn't. In the end, much as I loooooooove Fruvous, I would have gone to Alaska if the best program for me were there. However, what *did* sway me was the fact that I didn't want to move too far away from the Boston area. Which limited my choices, and I am damn lucky that the two schools that ended up tying for first choice with me (Brown and NYU) were reasonably close. Money was a consideration as well, so when NYU gave me less of it, considering the difference in the cost of living in Boston as compared to NYC, I just stayed in B-town and now commute to Providence, RI for a second year in a row. There are many, many factors in weighing graduate programs. Fruvous concert frequency in the area should definitely not be one of them. But that's just my opinion. :) Do e-mail me privately if you want to talk further. - -v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:46:26 GMT From: Katherine Bunting Subject: Re: [GRAD SCHOOL v. CONCERTS] This answer may seem to parallel to the one I had for Megan, but for different reasons. In this case, grad school covers a more broad period of time than a one-night event like a prom, so there's a potential for missing more concerts than just the one! However, Grad School can have a profound impact on the course of the rest of your life. Without knowing what field you're in (congrats on acceptance letters, BTW! Always good to know you're going *somewhere!*), from my experience, my choice of grad school directly affected my career opportunities, and indirectly affected the number and type of choices I've been given in a lot of areas. In one sense, I'm not 'quite' in the same situation; my final list of schools I chose from were in Albany, northern New Jersey (not "too" far from Philadelphia shows, New York City shows, etc.), and the Washington, D.C. area. (I'm attending a school in the latter.) While I'm certainly glad to have had reasonably Fru-friendly areas to choose between, when it came down to the line, what the school had to offer, and the quality of the experience was more important. Say you choose a school in a more-Fru-frequented area, but it's not one you particularly care for. While Fruvous may come to the area from time to time, this is good... However, you're spending the other 360 days a year being a graduate student there. That's an awful lot of time to be in a place that isn't doing for you as much as you could 'potentially' be doing somewhere else. Consider also the possible alternatives: is your hometown, or somewhere you would visit regularly on holidays or other visits a Fru-friendly area? Say you go to one of the more Fru-remote schools; Fruvous schedules a concert near to where your folks live; coordinate a quick trip home for a visit (even mid-week), and catch the Fru-show at the same time! Or, from another perspective, even grad schools have Spring Break. Save your pennies, bide your time, and when the calendars come out, find out where they're playing and go see them-- *wherever* they happen to be! It might be a totally-different area from where you'd ordinarily go to see them based on travel and proximity, but you'd get to see some Fru-shows and be away from campus! Maybe that could make up for some shows you'd miss by having gone to school somewhere 'closer.' When I was choosing between grad schools senior year, I was besieged by people telling me, "Where you choose to go to grad school is even more important than where you went as an undergrad." I've found that, give or take, they were mostly-right. I'm sure there are folks out there who would disagree with that, but if your decision to go to grad school is part of a career-based plan, the options they have for you (what professors are there, what they're researching, what people who graduate from there do after graduation) should ultimately be ruling your decisions. I have no doubt your parents would keel over-- so would mine! I mentioned to them that I was considering choosing a grad school to be closer to friends of mine (I'm from the Boston-area; went to college in Ohio-- *very* remote from where my high school friends went!), after having been elsewhere for four years... I thought my Mom was going to throttle me! But when I had a good think about it, they had good reason to keel. While I may not get to see that group of friends as often as I like, going to the school I'm at now is getting me to a place where, when I'm done, I can live where I want to, have a secure income, and have the resources to do the things I want to do. For instance... go to Fruvous concerts! That's more than two-cents'-worth, but it's my honest opinion; if you'd like to talk some more about it, please feel free to send me an email! It's a give-and-take kind of situation, but you have to do what's right for you. All the best, and good luck! - - Kate To what extent would the possibility of frequent concerts sway your own choice of school? - - -Rachel, whose parents would keel over if they knew she were posting such a thing "Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:47:37 -0800 From: Ellen Subject: Re: [GRAD SCHOOL v. CONCERTS] In article <20000313143706.21164.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net>, Katherine Bunting wrote: >When I was choosing between grad schools senior year, I was > besieged by people telling me, "Where you choose to go to grad > school is even more important than where you went as an > undergrad." I've found that, give or take, they were mostly- > right. Heh. I posted almost the same thing Kate did wrt this subject. ;) Not only did I hear the "where you went to college is not nearly as important as where you went to grad school," schpiel, in grad school I also heard the revised version: "where you do your graduate work is not nearly as important as where you do your post-doc." peace, ellen (by-passed the post-doc thing so i don't know if there's another version of it that they tell postdocs...) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:52:04 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: I Have Questions... MoxyOne22@aol.com wrote: > > 1) I know somewhat of the connection between Moxy Fruvous and Barenaked > Ladies. On 'Bucknaked' ('88ish) the Barenaked Ladies recorded both Psycho > Killer and the The Road Runner Song, and I noticed Moxy Fruvous have also > performed both these songs. I was wondering if this is more than a > coincidence, and where abouts one could find the fruvous copy of The Road > Runner Song? 1) Coincidence I'd guess. Most of the time Fruvous does covers of bands they think are incredible and enjoy playing the music as well. Bands like Talking Heads, Elvis Costello, Tom Waits, Stevie Wonder, Cher. No, wait on that last one. Sometimes they play covers because they think it'd be funny. Funny stuff would be things like Road Runner Song and WKRP. Complete speculation, but I think a lot of the covers come from way back when Mike, Jian, and Murray were in a cover band. So when Dave came along and there wasn't a lot of original music to play, I'm sure a lot of the covers from the Chia Pets days popped out. Stuff like WKRP and the Road Runner Song prolly came from busking, where catchy and familiar tunes might get someone's attention. The only time the Road Runner song was played in recent history (this being the last 3 years to me *grin*) was at the Lafayette Brewing Company in Lafayette IN in October of 1998. > 2) I have forever lost my copy of 'wood' and was wondering if someone would > be so kind as to tell me who wrote Nuits de Reve? Buy a new one. Moxy Fruvous wrote Nuits de Reve *grin*. Popular belief thinks Jian wrote Nuits de Reve while in England during the Bargainville tour. Mike translated it to French and it worked well. > 3) I was also wondering which copy of 'Green Eggs and Ham' I have?? The > version I have is nothing like any of the copies listed at fruvous.com. If > anyone knows of other versions floating around and where they originated, > would ya help me out?? Can you be more specific on the version you have? Is it mp3? Is it copied Indie cassestte? Is is some analog tape you got somewhere that you don't remember? The only known officially recorded and released versions of GE&H are on either the Indie cassette or the bargainville sampler. The Indie tape was self produced and sold at shows while Fruvous was indie in Canada. The other officially released version is on the Bargainville sampler tape that they distributed at a couple shows around the Bargainville era in the US. They again recorded it at the Mercury Lounge at one of the shows recorded for Live Noise, but the song wasn't put on to Live Noise probably for legal reasons. More or less, there are two versions of GE&H (though they both change a whole lot when performed). There is a slow version which when performed live starts with Murray and Mike coming out and Mike doing an introduction about Literature then introducing Murray who introduces the main characters Sam-I-Am and Mr. Cheese. The indie cassestte and the bargainville sampler both have this version, but it starts at the intro scat part to the song. Note that I don't own and have never heard the bargainville sampler, so it may be the same version as the indie tape. The fast version or short version or whatever, almost always segues from King of Spain directly into the song. It starts with a rocking bass line and the words start at "Would you, could you in a car" (this skips an intro that is in the longer version too). > 4) Back to the connection with the Barenaked Ladies, I know they sang backup > on If I Had $1,000,000. The other Toronto based duo (and definately another > of my favorite groups) Chris Brown & Kate Fenner (formerly of the Bourbon > Tabernacle Choir) also sang backup on that track. I was wondering if the > connetion between fruvous and Chris & Kate went any further? I know Chris > and have meet him several times, but never asked. I know that the Barnaked fellas and Fruvous know each other. I would guess, like now, back then the Toronto Indie scene all kinda knew each other. Fruvous has always been in the habit of helping other indie bands get some exposure (like during Fruvous & Friends for Choice - a "almost" annual benefit for the OCAC (Ontario Center (?) for Abortion Clinics) and during the past couple years even touring with them. So, I'd guess that they know each other professionally mostly. All that's a guess though. Don't hold me to any of it. I do know that Moxy Fruvous got better seats at the All-star game *Grin* Anyways, these are my opinions of the answers to your questions. Hope they help. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:06:17 GMT From: mike96@bluecrow.com (Mike Yoshioka) Subject: Re: Was Re: Prom or Fruvous, now Grad School On 13 Mar 2000 07:27:33 GMT, mmstevens18@cs.comwhatever (Princess) wrote: > >I like to think that living on the left coast, in a land fruvous doesn't *snip* getting off topic once again, (as I always do) but where abouts on the left coast are you? If you're in the Pacific North Left, please stay tuned for Fru-Head West details :) Mike aka Racer aka RacerMike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:05:39 GMT From: Aryn - Marietta Eaton Subject: Re: new question on bands.. I still have all 4 CD's, not that I've listened to them in years, but I can't quite bring myself to get rid of them yet. I was in Toys R Us right before christmas and they were playing one of The Party's earliest songs on the sound system, that would have made my day when I was 15, now it throughly frightened me. Aryn, who used to have the lyrics to 2 Party songs on written on her convers high tops, now I have one that was signed by the fru lads. - --- Maggie Deegan wrote: > THE PARTY?!? i *loved* the party! i played that > tape so much that i > friggin' broke it! heehee. the only song i > remember is their cover of > the Elvis Costello song "what's so funny (about > peace love and > understandin')." heh... i bet you can't find them > anymore... > > ~Maggie~ > > -- > "I think it's like a different level in there... > kinda trippy." ~ > Vicky R. > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > ===== Aryn - Marietta Eaton Lady Caelfind ni Mullen (called Alanna) Chatalaine and Minister of Children, shire of Innersea Offical Nothrshield Pouncer, CoFounder, House Ferrit Self professed Star Wars, U2, and Moxy Fruvous Fanatic "Dude, Jesus is hot!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:45:59 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: Re: AIYE! ny/nj tourdates!! (Jacey7) wrote: > Friday, April 21 > New York, NY > Irving Plaza cruel cruel fate!! (heh) i find this out the same day that i talk to ryan from the Selzers and find out that they've got a show at arlene's grocery in the city that same night. *sigh* so since i can't see the selzers that night - is there anyone in the NYC area that wants to accompany me down to hoboken, NJ this friday night? [1] They're an amazing "fuzz-pop"/power-pop group that you can check out at mp3.com if interested just email me, or frumessage me :) take it easy, special J! http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/ [1]assuming i'm not in voigin-ya with the JMU fru-crew. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:14:16 -0500 From: Warren Bloom Subject: AUDITION: bass or bari for NYC-based pro vocal band Bass singer that is. Or a baritone, if you've got a low G. See http://www.alteregress.com/auditions.html for full details. (Please do not reply directly to this message.) - -- The rules have changed... Get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BLB606 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:15:32 GMT From: Phil Schwan Subject: Re: AUDITION: bass or bari for NYC-based pro vocal band > Bass singer that is. Or a baritone, if you've got a > low G. Why....why, God, do I have to live in Ohio? I think I'm gonna go cry now. - -Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:11:18 GMT From: SugarFly26@aol.com Subject: Re: is it true? <> Whoo hoo! Wait, before I get too excited, I might still have reason to despair. Can anyone give me further details such as cost, is it all ages, when tickets go on sale and time starting whenever anyone finds out? gracias! - --------> Ln the hopeful:) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:17:13 GMT From: melinda klump Subject: Re: little trickier: Fruvous or Spain? my darling gella, i love you, and i love fruvous. there is nothing that would make me happier than to see both things together as often as humanly possible. however... if you don't go to spain i may have to tie you up and gag you and take you there myself, even if i have to carry you on my back the whole way. leap, gella leap! your lads will still be here when you get back. sincerely, your friend, melinda ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #146 ********************************************