From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #136 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, March 6 2000 Volume 04 : Number 136 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Guilty Pleasures [cookie ] Re: Guilty Pleasures [cookie ] Re: U of MD people [Katherine Bunting ] Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll [LilacGirl1002@aol.com] Re: U of MD people [address@bottom-of-post.com (Eric)] Stuff Tim wants to know [Tim Cain ] Frucon3 Open Mic MP3s are up ["Jason A.Reiser" ] Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll ["Adam Hartfield" ] Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll [merguez@aol.com (Merguez)] Re: Stuff Tim wants to know ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re : Brian's question [Andi Andrzejewski ] Re: Allentown info [frulady@my-deja.com] Re: Frucon3 MP3s [tmbgirl@my-deja.com] Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll ["^kat^" Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Daancing Queen wrote: > I must have a different version of Help - I see no Yesterday anywhere on my > record. My listing is side 1: Help, the Night Before, You've Got to Hide > You Love Away, I Need You. Side 2: Another Girl, Ticket to Ride, You're > Going to Lose that Girl. > > Just being nitpicky. Side Two of Cookie's (possibly British?) version of "HELP!": Act Naturally It's Only Love You Like Me Too Much Tell Me What You See I've Just Seen a Face Yesterday Dizzy Miss Lizzy OK, two of the songs weren't actually written by the Beatles, but I still stand by my previous statement. It ain't their best stuff by a LONG shot. ;-) Cookie (Looking at the back cover of the album) Boy, those Beatle boys were cute, weren't they? ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:03:35 -0800 From: cookie Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures "A.J. LoCicero" wrote: > SaphiraCat83 wrote: > > > I've heard the Beatles are one of the greatest musicians in the world, but > > according to my Dad, they were only a flash in the pan compared to the Rolling > > Stones. > Ha! The all-time personality-defining question: Beatles or Stones? It's been my observation that people usually fall into either one or the other category. I'm a Beatles gal, myself, although I do enjoy the Stones. > One other thing I wanted to say on the subject of bands that don't write > all their own music: > > How may songs did Frank Sinatra write? I was thinking along these same lines last night during my little rant, but opted out of starting yet another topic tirade. Thanks for the segue! Why is it we give songwriters more reverence than vocalists or musicians? Since when is the performance of the piece less important than the piece itself? I mean, couldn't the greatest song in the world sound absolutely horrific in the hands of an incompetent musician? I think I've personally butchered enough Mozart in my life to attest to that fact. Therefore, wouldn't it follow that music that is written to appeal to the young American masses be performed by people who also appeal to the young American masses? We're now in the age of video, and that means physicality is as much of a factor in a pop singer's appeal as their actual talent. Actually--now that I think about it--pop stars throughout the ages have ALL been sex symbols--including Frank Sinatra, the Stones, AND the Beatles. Brian Epstein understood this, and that's why he "cleaned up" the Beatles prior to marketing them because he knew he couldn't sell them to the masses as they were--regardless of how good of songwriters they were. As my father said to me years ago (way before MTV) as we were watching an old program that featured Kate Smith, he said, "You know, it makes me sad to think that if Kate Smith was just starting out today, she wouldn't be able to get a recording contract. Since she started in radio, the only thing that mattered was her voice. Due to the invention of TV, recording artists now have to be attractive as well as talented. It's sad to think that the world could have been cheated out of her gifts just because of her looks." My pop's a wise man, and he was right. Just ask Alison Moyet. Anyhoo, I want to thank you all for agreeing with me. I'm pretty used to sticking my foot in my mouth here, and it's nice to know that for once I didn't! :-) Cookie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 22:39:03 GMT From: Katherine Bunting Subject: Re: U of MD people Hiya. I do. But I'm a grad student, so it doesn't totally count. As a second-year Master's student, I'm only taking one class on-campus, so I'm only even there on Monday nights. However, if you were lucky, you took Intro. to Criminal Justice in SPring of last year, and I taught your class! If you take it now, you'll get... someone else. =) There are other UMCP folks around, though-- speak up! I've seen 'em! - - Kate. Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:48:31 -0800 From: "Christopher von Rinteln" Subject: U of MD people? Sorry for the OT stuff, but out of curiosity....does anyone here go to the University of Maryland? College Park, I mean. I'm sure *somebody* does. - - -- Chris "Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 23:10:41 GMT From: LilacGirl1002@aol.com Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll In a message dated 3/5/2000 11:34:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, srm9988n@aol.comicrelief writes: << Gordon Nash wrote: > I'm >> interested how may recordings does everyone own? I was just listening to >the >> Texaco Opera show and someone on it has 15,000 recordings 5000 vinyl and >> 10,000 CDs. >> ********Oh. My. God. That is like my dream. As of 3/5/00 I have 98 CDs and probably about 20 or 30 tapes. About 20 of the CDs though are BNL full length, singles, bootlegs and stuff like that so... But Spring Break is coming up and the opportunity for Betsy to work and make some money is coming up so the CD count should go up, not expontientially, but up nevertheless. My mom makes me feel bad about buying CDs so they are kind of my guilty vice. I will buy like 3 or 4 at a time and then won't buy some for awhile and then go and splurge again. Betsy "Moxy Fruvous-- more important than water." Eica ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 23:32:52 GMT From: address@bottom-of-post.com (Eric) Subject: Re: U of MD people In article <20000305222945.13188.qmail@ww187.netaddress.usa.net>, Katherine Bunting wrote: >There are other UMCP folks around, though-- speak up! I've seen 'em! Well, I live in Rockville. I applied to UMCP hoping to get into Honors--no, actually *expecting* to get into honors. But apparently I'm not good enough for the program, despite being in the IB Program, being a National Merit Scholarship Finalist, and being in charge of 3 different extracurricular activities and involved in at least two others. They offered me Scholars, which, from what I hear, sucks. So, as much as I would like to say that I am hoping to go to UMCP, unfortunately I no longer am. - --Eric - -- lightman "at" his.com http://www.his.com/lightman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 23:51:03 GMT From: Tim Cain Subject: Stuff Tim wants to know OK, I'm finally down off the Chicago/Madison high, and preparing to see both Jars of Clay and Plumb as I have a CCM week. But I need some Fruvous info/help: 1. I keep discerning hints at a cutback in touring this year. What's that mean? Does anybody have anything definitive, or can you point me to posts I've missed? What is the story on touring plans for the rest of the year? 2. Anybody heard anything about the C album? When they played "Disco Bargainville" Friday in Chicago, Jian said something along the lines of "That will be on the C album," prompting cheers from our corner of the room, and then he added, "to be released in 2005." 3. Has "Grudge" been played since the 1999 Toronto February shows? I don't remember seeing it on a setlist, but considering how often my pants zipper is down, I'm against trusting my memory about most things. Thanks for any help anybody can give. - --tc tcain1@webmart.net; http://www.webmart.net/~tcain1 "Thank God I lived to see the Super Bowl halftime show!" -- David Letterman, 2/21/2000 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 2000 15:20:36 -0800 From: "Jason A.Reiser" Subject: Frucon3 Open Mic MP3s are up If any of the Open Mic performers would prefer that their song not be available in this manner, please let me know and I'll remove it immediately. Otherwise, download and enjoy. You guys were all fantastic! The Q&A session will be available as a RealAudio stream shortly. http://www.bargainville.org/ - - Jason jreiser@ecoutez.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 01:06:38 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll > Fruheads come on all stripes. I'm sure some have a large number of CDs and > other have Früvous make up a large portion of their collection. I'm interested > how may recordings does everyone own? I was just listening to the Texaco Opera > show and someone on it has 15,000 recordings 5000 vinyl and 10,000 CDs. > Feanole aka DrWhoFru I have approximately 550 CDs; for a download that'll take forever, see http://www.javanet.com/~adamh/adamcd.htm. It's about 900K. My vinyl collection is growing slowly but steadily as I comb through thrift shops and used music stores. Just yesterday I got two records on the Command label - one of Doc Sererinsen's big band, and the other of Latin accordion music..I'm listening to that right now and it's pretty good! I also picked up two Mercury Living Presence records which I've not had the chance to listen to yet. - --Adam adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: 06 Mar 2000 01:27:15 GMT From: spin0za1@aol.commmm (Spin0za1) Subject: Re: OT: gelatin / agar >Explorabook Yes! And it had a picture of Einstein... I don't remember a cow, though... "To believe that knowledge is ignorance is noble. To believe that ignorance is knowledge is evil." - -unknown "You'll have to lose your mind before you can come to your senses!" - -Socrates, Way of the Peaceful Warrior Gella ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 02:52:45 GMT From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kyla?= Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll > Gordon Nash wrote: > how may recordings does everyone own? i personally own 71 cds and 13 tapes, counting the ones i have stolen from my dad. he has a really big collection of cds, tapes, and a whole wall in the garage of records, which he is tapes for us. my siblings say i have too many cds... oh well. i can't live without my cds. - --kyla ===== AIM: canadan2 ICQ: 37135028 ?:^) marion sez: hi everyone! we miss u cedric! if i said you were crazy, would you have to fight me? - -moxy früvous, gulf war song __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 03:10:28 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasures Mike Wood wrote: > > > One other thing I wanted to say on the subject of bands that don't write > > all their own music: > > > > How may songs did Frank Sinatra write? > > nineteen. > > or, was that supposed to be rhetorical? :} It was, but I don't mind because I was wondering about that actually. > - Mike "do *I* know what a rhetorical QUESTION is???" Wood Hey, It is from people like you, Mike, that I learn many of my best obscure and useless facts. :) A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: 06 Mar 2000 03:27:50 GMT From: merguez@aol.com (Merguez) Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll oh 900 cds 1000 albums few hundred tapes Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Merguez@aol.com "Sur le feu dansant des paires de merguez à ciel ouvert. Harissa, moutarde tout est permis. Me lance le vendeur l'air réjoui" Merguez Sur l'Boulevard ~ par Drôles de Beaux Gars ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 03:30:07 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Stuff Tim wants to know Tim Cain wrote: > But I need some Fruvous info/help: > > 1. I keep discerning hints at a cutback in touring this year. What's that > mean? Does anybody have anything definitive, or can you point me to posts > I've missed? What is the story on touring plans for the rest of the year? Well they've said they would be taking it easier this year. However, Look at the tour Schedule so far: There are currently 19 dates played/planned between Jan 1 and June 1. Last year there were 24 between those 2 dates. There could easily be 5 more shows booked in that time, so for the first half of the year they seem to be doing about the same. I think the summer tour should be substantial, since they've talked about doing a lot of festivals. It may well be that the fall tour this year will be smaller, or not. but since it isn't booked yet it is hard to tell. > 2. Anybody heard anything about the C album? When they played "Disco > Bargainville" Friday in Chicago, Jian said something along the lines of > "That will be on the C album," prompting cheers from our corner of the > room, and then he added, "to be released in 2005." I've gotten the impression that the C album is "in the pipeline." I've also been told that they are very close to having the individual songs from the Fruhead card finally finished. :) > 3. Has "Grudge" been played since the 1999 Toronto February shows? I don't > remember seeing it on a setlist, but considering how often my pants zipper > is down, I'm against trusting my memory about most things. So far as I know, Grudge was dropped from all setlists after it was nixed from the Thornhill lineup. Doing a search on FDC yeilds 2/19/99 as the last entry, so I'd say yeah, that is probably the last one. A.J. - -- _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 03:54:23 GMT From: Andi Andrzejewski Subject: Re : Brian's question Brian asked: There are other languages with little modifying symbols (Hungarian has a couple, right?) that I don't know a lot about. Anyone care enough to take it from here? Polish does also. As do Tibetan, Punjabi, Bengali, Icelandic, Swedish, Finnish, Irish. andi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 03:37:03 GMT From: frulady@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Allentown info > Waitasecond.... so, this show is going on? > OK. Inside Info here. Yes the show is going on, No it not just students, it is everyone. This information came straight from one of the people who arranged the concert. It is seperate from the Bryn Mawr concert. It is definitely open to the public. Hope to see lots of you there. mla Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 03:25:20 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Frucon3 MP3s In article <89uq44$2vnp@drn.newsguy.com>, Jason A. Reiser wrote: > http://www.bargainville.org/ for anyone that uses imesh (http://www.imseh.com) i'm sharing mp3s of all of the songs that fruvous played during the weekend as well if any of you are interested in that... (sorry, i'd used napster except that NYU banned it :( *sigh*) my nickname "tmbgirl" or my imesh #219213 check ya kiddies later :) take it easy, JOrdaN http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/art.html http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:45:38 -0500 From: "^kat^" Subject: Re: How large is your CD collection? A Poll > > Gordon Nash wrote: > > how may recordings does everyone own? ok, i'll bite. *looks behind her* erm. 4 records. that's easy. the 'rents have lots in the basement, but they don't really count... 300 tapes? i need to reorganize them b/c i've run out of room. perils of establishing oneself as a trader of concerts on analog media. *grin* and cds? *heh* that's growing exponentially by the day. now, i think i'm up to... 350, closing in on 400. it's hard to gauge, again, because about 1/3 of them are sitting in stacks all around my room here. again, this is including recorded shows & whatnot, too. nowhere near the 15,000 of the chap on the texaco opera show, but certainly not a shabby showing. can't understand how my upstairs suitemate can subsist on fewer than 20 cds... *shudder* i'd hate to have to choose only 20 of these. they're all so good. :) ^kat^ "no one is really beautiful-- they're all just mediocre men of the hour" http://fly.to/the.midway.after.dark ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #136 ********************************************