From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #106 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, February 25 2000 Volume 04 : Number 106 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: A suggestion to the Frucon Committee [Koz ] gateway news server changed [tmbgirl@my-deja.com] Re: Madison [merguez@aol.com (Merguez)] Re: FRUCON WEEKEND (longlong) [gingee@my-deja.com] Tickets on sale now! [FruCake1@aol.com] FRUCON WEEKEND (longlong) [tmbgirl@my-deja.com] Re: DAYTON SETLIST! [Chad Maloney ] Re: Brown Eyed Girl [Maggie Deegan ] Re: Madison [Aryn - Marietta Eaton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:08:52 -0600 From: Koz Subject: Re: A suggestion to the Frucon Committee Oh, come on now. Everyone knows that winter is the best season to do everything. There's sledding, ice skating, skiing (downhill AND cross country), walking through a quiet park in the late evening with big, puffy snowflakes gently falling all around you, snowball fights, snow forts, snow angels, tunnels to be dug under drifts and snow plow leavings, tobaggening, polar bearing, and you simply *MUST* agree that driving on snow is just an absolute *GAS*. {Seriously. Find a big, open lot (with much distance between light poles) and just find out how fun snow can be! <--something I think should actually be a part of driver's ed classes.} And now, add FrüCon to the mix. I thought the weather at FrüCon II was perfect! It only added to the atmosphere of warmth at the Con and at Lee's. Maybe I'm a bit sadistic, but there's something "homey" about freezing your butt off walking somewhere and then walking into a crowd of really friendly people when your cheeks and nose are all red. ... Although...I am originally from Wisconsin... Later, Koz AWC wrote: > ...I love Toronto, but for once it would be nice to have a vacation in > a tropical climate. > Just a selfish suggestion: couldn't we have Frucon IV in Jamaica? Ellen wrote: > In order for it to be truly selfish, you have to ask for it to be > *here.* DGodwin01 wrote: > My suggestion for next years con.. Have it on a cruise ship, ala the > EdHead cruise... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:16:02 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: gateway news server changed > Also, there's a slight possibility that > something you send will be successfully posted at leftbank but never > make it to Exodus, so it won't go back to the list. aw man - so let's say i sent a super-duper long review of frucon to ammf@fruvous.com yesterday afternoon and it still hasn't shown up anywhere... is that my clue to just give up or should i try posting it again? take it easy, Special J http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/frucon.html <--frucon pics http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/art.html <-frusketches Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 2000 16:20:51 GMT From: merguez@aol.com (Merguez) Subject: Re: Madison >Greetings! > See all of you at the Madison show. Also, I'll be playing a few Moxy >tunes on my radio show Saturday afternoon in honor of the concert, so >tune in. > >Keith Rose aka Keeter Man >Host of "Insanity on the Airwaves" >Saturdays 5-6 PM CST >91.1 WLFM Hey Keith - awesome. Gald to hear that someone is playing Moxy Fruvous in WI. The promoter for the show did a terrible job promoting the show here. They've been advertising in the local free-presses (Isthmus, & Onion) but aside from a few flyers (I counted 3 in town) there is nothing promoting them. Almost every day during the folk/international music segments there is a very comprehensive "Folk music calander". They'll mention any show that fits, but you have to notify them. After not hearing Moxy Fruvous mentioned I got sick of it & called the station myself. They were more than happy to add them to the list & were even willing to do free PSAs for the show. Of course since I'm not the promoter I wasn't able to arrange the PSA. WORT does great PSAs for all kinds of shows, but I didn't know it would be so easy for them to do one. How pathetic this promoter didn't even make an effort. What's the point? I guess that's why the Madison music scene plays to the converted. They bring the same tried & true acts over & over & over. I mean how many times can we see Warren Zevon, The Big Wu & The Dark Star Orchestra? Anywho - I took it one step further & made my own Moxy Fruvous show flyers which I've proceeded to plaster around town (I left the name of the promoter off the flyers - those lazy asses don't deserve the mention.) I'm heading out tomorrow morning to put up a bunch more. From the old punk rock days - D.I.Y. Even with the crappy promotion, I think the buzz has started & the show should be great. Madison has good, openminded, receptive audiences. By the way - Moxy was a "pcik of the week" in Isthmus, Onion & the daily newspaper's "Rhythm weekend section". Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Merguez@aol.com "Sur le feu dansant des paires de merguez à ciel ouvert. Harissa, moutarde tout est permis. Me lance le vendeur l'air réjoui" Merguez Sur l'Boulevard ~ par Drôles de Beaux Gars ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:27:19 GMT From: gingee@my-deja.com Subject: Re: FRUCON WEEKEND (longlong) Jordan asked: .. here's my question, did fruvous ever open up for bob dylan? i > seriously gotta know. The cabbie is correct! According to The Globe & Mail, 9/29/1992, Moxy opened for Dylan in August, 1992, at Massey Hall in Toronto. Cheers! gingee Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:13:36 GMT From: FruCake1@aol.com Subject: Tickets on sale now! Hello everyone, I'm not sure if anyone knows this (considering I was the first one to call this morning), but tickets for the 4/19 show at the Grand Opera House went on sale this morning. Call 800-374-7263 or 302-652-5577. The 4/20 tickets at Mays Landing also went on sale. I think they're only being sold on-line for now....there was no phone number on Ticketmaster. Good Luck! Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:43:52 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: FRUCON WEEKEND (longlong) OK, this is my second and most likely final attempt to get this posted... I have this "journal" - but it's not a journal in the traditional sense. I merely keep this book with me so that if i feel so inclined I can sit down and write (or draw but that's another story). Writing is a total release for me and especially "free writing." Where there is no structure - other than what flows into and out of your head and finally onto the paper. What i've found in keeping this book of thoughts, however, is that it offers a lot of insight into my character and what i'm like - sometimes things that i wouldn't have noticed about myself otherwise. I don't suggest to anyone that they wade through this unless they actually are interested (perhaps the JMU crew and people that have met me before, or those that just want to know about our trip to frucon). This chronicles very little fruvous and mostly my adventure but since i have it - i thought i'd share. Because i'm sharing with the NG i decided to go through and add a bit of stuff that exlpains and also pertains to the NG - other than that - it's my head. i realize it's long, forgive me - that's what happens when i start writing. 02.24.2000 - 3:29pm EST I can't tell if I'm sick or not. sick tired or lazy, i suppose. ber now wow! Guess now's as good a time as ever to write about my "trip." Who be trippin? So Toronto. I had it built up to be so much - and it met all my expectations plus some, but in ways I never would have expected. It all started back in December when I met Amy and the frugals from JMU at the fruvous shows in NYC at the westbeth theater. Needless to say, I liked them right away- maybe because they were college kiddies just like myself and they seemed to have their heads on straight about the band (unlike some of the smitten fans around!). Anyways, we all kept in touch via email and such and somehow - they were grooves enough to offer to drive me up to Toronto with 'em for the convention weekend. Wow. I was so souped to hear that they'd be willing to go that much out of their way just to help me out that i couldn't refuse the offer. :D there was absolutely no way that i, a poor college kiddie, could have afforded to fly so it definitely was awesome. So it all really started on Thursday evening, however. I knew that Amy and Co. would be leaving JMU in Harrisonburg, Virginia around 6pm after their classes were over and heading up here to meet me in good ol' NYC. Last i heard it was about a 5 hour drive to the city and of course, i was anxiously awaiting their arrival all evening long. I had so much work to do - but really I was just too preoccupied with my own thoughts to sit down and do any of it. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not the type to get all giddy and excited over something like a concert and such but i think the whole experience that was yet to come - - driving from NYC to Toronto with a group of people I'd barely talked to was definitely going to be interesting. I wandered around the village for a little while on Thursday night just to soak up my surroundings and such - i tend to do that a lot. anyways, i visited with a few friends, said goodbye for the weekend and then finally headed back to my apartment around 10pm to just sit around and wait. yeehaw. I_m not really sure when they buzzed me but I went downstairs and met the crew in my lobby and was totally psyched to see that, Paul, a guy that had IMed me the night before had decided to tag along for the journey despite the fact that he doesn_t even like fruvous. While that may not seem like much, our conversation the night before had spanned from talking about transformer underwear and converse shoes (the general "good ol_ days" as told by a college-age person) to the whole trip and why I thought he should come along. I never really thought that he'd actually do it. So grooves. So there it was Amanda, Amy, Atasi, and Paul. We wandered down to the west village around midnight to see if we could pick up fake IDs for amanda and atasi but the place was closed and there wasn't much else we could do. We crashed in my apartment at around 12:30am when we got back with my alarm set for 4:30am. yeehaw! At which point we got up - i was exhausted - that was the only sleep i'd had in two days. So we pack up the car and the five of us squished ourselves in - Paul driving, Amy shotty, and the three of us remaining in the back. 5am and we were on the road... "So jordan, tell us how to get to the holland tunnel" "the who? ok, just because I live here doesn't mean i know how to get around! I don't have a car!" Eventually we made it there and down onto the jersey turnpike where I got to hear stories from their trip to the city in december for the fruvous shows where Atasi was so tired that she didn't pick up the ticket at the tollbooth so when they were exiting they had to pay the full price instead of the allotted amount *grin* I was already beginning to like how funny the group was. I definitely had nothing to worry about with this crew of people. So here it is, Friday morning and when we made it into Pennsylvania - I crashed. When I woke up somewhere near the Poconos, the rest of the crew (save Paul who was driving) was crashed. So i ask Paul, "Do you like 80's and 90's rap?" and he just gets this cute grin and says "hells yeah - what do you have?" and i pulled out my extra special "Crackberry Juice Mix: Stuck in the 90s" mixtape that i'd put together a few days before. First song: Color Me Badd's "I Wanna Sex You Up" and within seconds after the first "tic-toc you don't stop... ooooh oooh oooh!"s the entire car was booming along down the highway and we were all up and singing along. I knew at this minute that I was going to enjoy my trip with the JMU crew! :D Throughout the entire tape, each song was gleefully met with a "oh hells yeah!" or some similar response. Definitely cool to find that we were grooving to salt n' pepa, mc hammer, NKOTB, biz (we're on a first name basis), eazy- e, 2 live crew, naughty by nature, among a bunch of others together on our way to... a fruvous show? *grin* I think it was at this point that we all started playing the question game - which actually was a nice way for me to relax and meet the rest of my crew and meanwhile open myself up and let them see just what a crackberry (er, crackhead) i am. It was nice to see that my sarcastic nature was reflected and reacted to very well in the rest of the car. So, the trip led us back into NY and we headed through Cortland and Binghamton and all i could think of was my bud Kamme that just transfered down to NYU from SUNY Binghamton and how her bf went to SUNY Cortland. Anyways, I would never have survived at school up there. One of those - "yeehaw! let's get drunk again tonight" schools because there's nothing else to do anywhere nearby... the schools that are all nice for about three weeks (allright, maybe longer!) and then it just gets old real fast. Allright so somewhere around here Amanda took the wheel and YIPES! we were all tweaking. I don't think amanda drove again after that *grin* it wasn't really her fault - we were being chased by the snowstorm the entire trip long and as a result the front windshield was covered almost completely in mud and crap and the wipers were not doing a thing to help. anyways... i think amy was driving by the time we crossed the border and when we got to customs all I can remember was Paul and Amanda leaning out the windows to take pictures of the "Welcome to Ontario" sign. Yay! the picture came out. I was mostly psyched that we drove through Niagara Falls because, despite the fact that we didn't see anything, we all decided that it was always nice to be able to say "yeah, i've been there." Anyways, the trip through ontario was pretty uneventful. We slept some more and when we got into the actual city of Toronto - we were all souped. Again, we couldn't see out the windshield but this time it was due to the fact that the defroster wasn't hipping so we had to roll down all the windows (yes, in the fine snow and all) and since we had the windows down - we thought - how could we make sure that we're scream out "ANNOYING AMERICANS" to the best of our ability? AH! i know! let's boom our music! and that we did. just like on the streets of denver growing up - we boomed down the streets of Toronto - luckily, the trunk was filled with all our clothes and stuff rather than two 12" subs like we had back home but it's all good. it was fun. Friday afternoon, we check into the hotel... at least Amy and I did because we had to let them think that there were only two people staying in the room (oh yeah - cheating the system, gotta love that). Paul, Amanda, and Atasi met us in the room a few minutes later. We all kinda relaxed for a few. Paul was grooves enough to offer to go exchange our money for us and so off he went while we, the chicas, spent some time in the room. Amy decided to make a few phone calls *grin* and then went out to get dinner. We ended up at Hoops bar n grill which was totally cool. Had some yummalicious food and beers and then decided that we'd head up to Lee's. Before we went into the subway station however, Amy and I ran back to the hotel to pick up a letter that Laura (another JMU student) had written. She totally wanted to go to the show but couldn't make it so she wrote a funny letter as a joke to us that said "tell Jian I love him and make sure you get his autograph for me. PS. if he's in a bathing suit get a picture of him" I had read this letter in the car and started laughing so hard that i was crying "when is he just gonna up and be in a bathing suit?" hahaa! it was great... so as a way to be totally evil friends i suggested that, if we get a chance, we should have jian sign the actual letter for her. Ok, so we decided to get to the venue all early because - amanda and atasi still didn't have fake ID's and they still needed to get in. I told them all these stories of when I was back in denver trying to see shows at the bluebird and ogden theaters and how i always used to sneak in back or side doors and then go hide in the bathroom and stuff. Just as a side note - that's actually how i met a lot of my close "famous" friends - if you've ever been around me and heard my stories of all the random punk bands i'm buds with. Anyway, so we decided to get there early and check it out. we headed to the back and, yes, there were two doors but both were definitely shut and locked. The plus side was that there were holes in both of the doors and we could peer in and see the band soundchecking. that was cool but the novelty of it faded away real quick and we all decided to split and think of a new plan to get the girls in. So we head around to the front and join all the fruheads in line. We notice that there are people wandering in and out of the club non-stop so i told amanda and atasi to just walk in totally calm and act like they totally have a destination and purpose in mind and to just head straight for the bathroom and to sit in there until they let the rest of the people in. It worked all good - the only thing we didn't realize was that they were going to have to sit in the bathroom for close to 2 hours. haha! ok, so paul heads down the street to a pub while amy and i stood in line. Paul got back and stood in line with us for a few minutes before he recognized that it was foolish to just stand around in the cold - and he walked into lee_s, sat down at the bar and had a beer. A few minutes later, after we realize that he isn_t getting thrown out or anything, amy and i look at each other - look at all the people around us - and decided it's ridiculous to be outside. So we go and join Paul at the bar and just hung out until they started letting people into the venue. While there we say hi to Jian who kind of curiously asks how we were already in the venue and such. I couldn't really tell if he was annoyed or not but i figured if he had a problem with it he would have been like "get da hail outta heah." (that's ghetto for "please leave"). Paul became "best buds" with the bar tender and his life story is actually really cool. I like that guy. Allright, so we're all just hanging out before the show when the opener comes on - Martina wha? i dunno. Anyways, she says something about how she feels very lonely on stage by herself without her "backup band" and said something along the lines of "I need some dancers or something" just totally playing. Paul being the crazy that he is - offers to come up on stage and dance. Martina lets him and somewhere along the line a chica from the audience (mindy?) offered to dance with paul for the song as well. so there they were dancing to the song and I had to listen to fruheads all around me bitching and whining about "that's not fair to martina" and i just looked at them and thought, "she would have told them no if she really didn't want them on the stage with her." whatever, i think it got people interested in her set and you have to admit that the people stopped talking through that song like they had through the rest of 'em. She finished and during the interim between her set and fruvous' paul hears the giddy teenage girls standing behind us talking about how dave is standing over in the corner so he asks us "Is dave in the band or something?" *grin* we said "Yup" and with that Paul goes over to dave and talks for a good 15 minutes at least. Ok, i was just laughing - what does paul have to say to dave? he didn't even know who he was! *grin* we'd keep looking over and there they were slapping each other on the back, having a grand ol' time - they looked like they were best friends from days of yore! anyways, dave has to split to go get ready and paul comes back to where we're standing and we all just give him this look of "what in the world?!" so Paul explains that he was talking to Dave about how scared he was of "fruheads" and how he didn't really like the band, he was just there to chill and stuff... guess they just had fun looking around at the situation in front of them - i know i did. That done, fruvous takes the stage and well, you all heard the setlist. It was grooves. I liked the show a lot. The energy level seemed to be *less* than that of the last time i had seen them in NYC but maybe i was just hallucinating. (is that enough said?) haha, all you guys reading this review have gotten this far and are like "So, dude, where's the frucontent?" Sorry, I feel really bad - you can stop reading now... or go on... whatever floats your boat... So after the show we see that there's a crowd of giddy females and we figured that somewhere in the middle of it must rest Jian. We waited a little bit for the crowd to disperse but honestly he's like a neon light and the women are like freekin bugs that just can't resist... it's all good in the hood. We all made our way over to him and gave him Laura's letter and Jian had somewhat of the same response as i did "in a bathing suit? what? when? huh?!" it was coo... he signed it with something along the lines of "when do i get to see you in a bikini" hehee. i laughed. so did laura when we gave it back to her. Ok, so we head out of the venue all happy like and have the intentions of taking the subway (which can i just say is so clean and friendly compared to NYC - wow, i was in shock when i got down there first). The guy says "it's 1:46am and the last train is pulling up right now - it leaves at 1:47am... you guys can try to make it" so we ran. and since amanda and i got there first we stood in the doors and held it up (don't you just hate those people?) until the rest of our crew got on. We were all tired but there weren't any seats in the car we hopped into so we all stood up... it was the JMU crew on one side and me on the other. that was fun. then it became the "ethnics" (that's what amanda and atasi tagged themselves throughout the weekend because they felt as though they were like two of maybe five total non- white people they saw at the shows) against us. somehow we found all of this really entermusing. I got to tell them all how up until i was in 6th grade I thought I was black. hehee... they all laughed but i was the only white person in my entire neighborhood and school... i'm digressing tho... So we got half-way back to the hotel but of course we couldnt make the transfer we were supposed to because the subways stopped running (what kind of bull is that?) and so we walked back to the hotel from there. That was really cool. I love toronto :D We got back to the hotel chilled for a bit and then crashed. i was soo sleepy. I woke up about six hours later. I hate sleeping - i think it_s such a waste of time. There are so many other things i could be doing. So i hop in the shower and try my hardest not to wake any of my roommates up. I see that paul's eyes are open so i whisper to him "i'm going down to the lobby to read" and snuck out the door. I sat in the lobby for a bit just watching what was going on. That was interesting. I tried to read my book "the zen teachings of bodhidharma" but i really didn_t get that far... I headed back upstairs around 11am and found that the crew had just woken up. I fall asleep for about an hour while everyone is showering and such and when we were all ready we headed down to mr. sub for lunch. that was highly entermusing cuz i had no clue what the hell was going on. Anyways, we got back to the hotel and amy, atasi, amanda, and I all wandered into the con. we looked around - watched the I Will Hold On video - made some insights into it. watched a king of spain video and then headed in for the "open mic" The JMU crew's bud brett and his friends were going to be covering the Gulf War Song and according to my buds they said that their a capella group covers fruvous songs often and they always sound grooves so i was hyped to see 'em. The open mic surprised me - I had expected to be totally unthrilled and thought i'd only be listening to people butchering otherwise good songs. Needless to say, i was shocked to hear how awesome everyone (ok there were a couple i could have done without hearing - but nothing so bad that i scarred my appreciation for the lads songs!) sounded. The little munchkin boys were awesome :D i was cracking up so much. very nice. My only suggestion for next time would be to let people do stuff that's not necessarily fru-related... but i guess this is all run on a tight schedule and stuff. so who knows. it was cool. The awards were fun and it seemed like everyone was having a good time. We (the crew minus Paul) got in some pics with Jian and Murray... My buds and I opted not to stay for the Q&A session. Oddly enough, I was introduced to Moxy Fruvous when Sarah threw a couple of videos of them performing somewhere on the end of a TMBG bootleg i had traded her for... she also threw in Jaymz Bee and his Royal Jelly Orchestra videos on there too. I just thought that was somewhat ironic. needless to say - i was more thrilled with Fruvous the day i watched that video than Jaymz. he was cool tho. We got back into the con before the Q&A was over so we got to hear a bit of it. I plan on writing a whole post solely about fruheads coming up but in case you decide not to read that i just want to say this here as well (let me go cut a paste...) The topic of public radio was raised and everyone was so supportive of the poor indie, obscure, and otherwise unheard of things. Totally 100% understandable. But the question has to be asked - - just because you're pro-indie, does that mean you *have* to be anti- popular? I felt completely shocked talking to people as they bashed the pop culture in order to be pro-unique and pro-individual stuff. I had no respect for the people i was talking to - how can you even begin to claim you understand the indie artists if you don't understand the pop culture *and* understand the unique differences between the two that distinguish them from each other? if you totally reject the world around you without being aware of what that world really involves ... you have no basis or credibility for making a judgment at all. my 3 cents. it had to be said. Ok, that being done - we anxiously await fruvous_ appearance at the con. That was totally grooves. I'm one of a mere few that considers the b album as my fave (yeah yeah it's detarded to pick one but hey...) so i was super-duper-alice-cooper groovin' to this little performance. Paul, meanwhile, was not too excited and he left partway through to go pub-hopping. Amy, Atasi, and Amanda all got in a pic with Dave and then we jetted out of there. Dinner at the pizza pizza on the corner. I was so crazy - don_t know what got into me. (amy, wanna buy this bag of doritos? only $500 CAN!) Anyways, we were sitting there and watched as fruheads kept passing. Finally I thought to myself - they're all heading to the subway - i'm wondering if doors are earlier tonight than they have been the last few nights. We all head down and take the trek to lee's again and find out that doors aren't until 9pm! what were all you fruheads thinking standing in line for 4 hours? (we heard people complaining that they'd been in the line since 5:30pm). Whatever, we did what we did the night before and went into the bar. This time there was a different bar-tender and she, along with the rest of the lee's staff, didn't like fruheads to say the least. Paul chatted with Martina some more and i can't tell if shew as afraid that he was some mad stalker or something or just generally pleased that she had a major fan. We chilled inside again until fruheads started entering and all was good... we staked out places in front, stage-dave tonight and that was mad-cool. I can talk some more about how people are so anti-tall people but i_m saving that for the fruhead post. sorry. Martina sounded so much better tonight with the drummer - i was groovin a helluva a lot more than the night before. Fruvous comes on. not much to say here other than the whole being spit on story. that was entermusing. thank you mike! ugh! anyways, amy bought dave a beer and set it on the stage with a little note that said something along the lines of "compliments of amy"... unfortunately dave didn't see it. Jian did however - he took a big swig of it somewhere in the middle of the show and amy and i just looked at each other and laughed. Jian managed to step on the little note too :( aw amy! anyways, amy then points the beer out to dave and he smiles. it was all good in the hood except he prolly thot we'd drinkin' the bit of it that was missing, not jian. hahaa! ok... so after the show we got jian back for stealing dave's beer... he sets his beer down on our table as he's signing autographs and i'm like "oh, did ya get me a beer? thanks!" all sarcastic like and totally way more forward than i ever am in real life and he's like "mmm... grumblegrumble... you can have some... grumble" so i took it. then the crew took the rest. i laughed. I had all intentions of buying him another beer (since, yeah, we drank most of it) but i couldn't find him so whatever - we owe jian a beer that's all there is to it. *grin* It's well after the 1:47 subway cut off time (am i laughing at your city? noooo!) so we hail a cab to take us back to the hotel. This guy is so awesome - he asks us where we're from and what we're doing in toronto and when we tell him that we're here for a concert, he says "oh, which one?" and we said "moxy fruvous" to which he's like "oh yeah, i drove those boys home a couple of years ago... well three of 'em... there's more than that in the band, right?" and we're like, "yeah, there's four of 'em" and he's like "yeah they had a show and three of them got in the cab and, there's an indian one in the group, right?" "yeah" "he went off with some girl, but the other three got in and i drove each of them home... one of them made me stop off at a flower store so he could buy flowers for his wife." At this point, i can't tell if he's just making all this stuff up or not but he goes on and tells us all these stories about what they were talking about and... here's my question, did fruvous ever open up for bob dylan? i seriously gotta know. anyways - he goes off and tells us where each of the three of them lived and i'm sure if i was from toronto it would have some significance to me but honestly he'd say stuff like "the beaches" and i'm like... oh. that's nice. *smile and nod* like a blonde haired blue eyed chica. anyways, i laid all the rest of my canadian currency on this guy and we headed up to the hotel and chilled for a bit. got food, chilled some mo', then crashed. we got up pretty damn early, packed our stuff up and headed out on the road again. we're all good driving along and somewhere in the middle of Pennsylvania, after we stopped at a bagel store (ironically, :manhattan bagel:) at which point the crew decides i need to be at the wheel. I tell them that i've never driven an automatic - which is sad but true. in colorado it's all about the standards cuz you get in the mountains and i swear to god it sucks if you can_t downshift... anyways... i digress. I start driving on the condition that i don't have to be in charge of the directions - they had to tell me where to go. they agree. So there i am - i like to drive fast. i think it reflects my entire life - cuz everything i do is mad fast.... i never stop (i already commented about how i think that relates to the fact that i hate sleeping - it just slows ya down)... anyways, i'm zipping down the highway at 110mph and it's all fun. we pull over about an hour and a half later when i look down and see that we're at empty YEEHAW!!! at that point amy takes the wheel and as we pull out of the gas station and get back on the highway amy and i (sitting shotty) pull down the visors because the sun is in our eyes. WHAT? we're definitely going west... and we have been for the past 2 hours. ouch. so we laugh it all off and turn around. We start heading back the way we really want to be going and we realize "hell, we're closer to Harrisonburg, VA than NYC" Paul asks me what time i have classes at tomorrow and i tell him "it's presidents day so NYU doesn't have classes" they all look at me and it's basically agreed that we're going to Virginia, not NYC. "mmm. ok!" and we were off. Howerver, Atasi was asleep for this whole conversation and when she wakes up she's like "where are we?" we tell her and she gets this annoyed "oh my god, we are so much closer to VA than NY!!! this sucks!" We all laugh at her but don_t say anything. pretty soon thereafter i start reading my entry in the car's "trip journal" and reveal the fact to Atasi that i'm going down to VA to chill with them for a lil while she seemed to be pretty psyched. So there we were driving through Maryland, W. Virginia, and we finally get into VA... only to get pulled over. yeehaw. it was 79 in a 65, one mph shy of "reckless driving" i just laughed at the fact that i didn_t get pulled over when i was driving. we shook that one off too and made our way into harrisonburg. but not before we made a quick stop at "Sheetz" for gas and ... shmuffins. oh yeah. i was 100% broke but whatever - i got a shmuffin and was all good in the hood. We pulled into Harrisonburg and i was thoroughly entertained as we drove onto campus and the kiddies in the car new everyone that was wandering around... i just thought of NYU and how it's in NYC and there's no way in hell i could do that. *grin* we chill there and tell all the kiddies about our trip. Monday evening after everybody's classes are over - we all hop into the car again and they drove me back up to NYC. these kids are so super-duper nice. i can_t wait to see 'em all again! oh yeah - and i can't wait to see the band. (can_t forget about that, right?) it's all about the music. It was cool getting to know all these new people that i totally dig, without a doubt! A few years ago, one of my friends was writing this thing about me and said "it's impossible to be around jordan and not be in a good mood. she's just too crazy and once you get around her things go too fast for you to stop and even begin to ponder not being happy." I never really believed her - i only remember that because i was totally hung up on it and confused. Like, there's always those times when i'm not a happy-camper - everyone has to get all bummed out at times, right? i mean, my boyfriend calls me "captain grumpy" every morning when i wake up and laughs at me as i'm slowly but surely the typical "captain sunshine" in a few minutes... but as i think about this weekend... i'm sure that if, had i had a video camera, and could watch myself - i'd see that what paige said was true... even when i try to be angry (like the morning i woke up and got all mad at Paul for snoring too loud the night before and keeping me up) i just start laughing at myself... i can't take things like that too seriously no matter how hard i try. This trip, if for nothing else, made me realize that nothing in the world is so serious that ya gotta get in a bad mood over it. Be it driving 4 hours out of the way or standing in the cold around a bunch of people that are doing nothing but complaining... it's all good in the hood and now i have great stories to share with great people, right? so the question in the first sentence of this: sick, tired, or lazy? probably none of the above - just had too much floating in the depths of my head. take it easy, JordAN (AKA SPECIAL J!) http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/frucon.html <---yummy frucon pics! http://www.geocities.com/tmbgirl.geo/art.html <-fruvous sketches Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:44:11 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: DAYTON SETLIST! lawrence solomon wrote: > > It's their show, not yours. If you want to "stand out," then form your own > band and play a show. But a Fruvous show is *their* time to stand out, not > anyone else's. But in the same way, Fruvous intentionally destroys the fourth wall at shows. That's a double edged sword for the band. It draws the audience in and gets them more involved in the show. It sets up all the emotional ups and downs that the band uses. But it also opens them up for audience comments. The band can't know what the audience is gonna do once the door is opened for "audience participation". They can guess because they've been doing their show for a LONG time. But they don't know. Yes, people cross the line. But the band tempts them to cross the line too. Much more so than any other bands I've seen. If there's someone you see as a heckler, more than likely the band got themselves into it (or the person is insanely drunk). If the band got themselves into it, let them get themselves out of it by playing straight music for a couple songs. The band knows what they are doing. As for Dayton, yeah, they looked a little frustrated at times and brought out a couple comments meant for putting the audience back in it's place. No, it wasn't pointed out that the band doesn't knock the sailor's cocks out of the hecklers mouth when the heckler is doing his job. That's usually my sign that the audience went to far *grin*. - Chad Choice lines from Lafayette: "Well, I'm a Philatelist and I'm frankly pissed off that no one brought their binders of stamps" - Dave Matheson "Man, I'm stoned. Let's get online and do some bidding" - Murray Foster ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:31:22 GMT From: Maggie Deegan Subject: Re: Brown Eyed Girl methinks i have this one.... AIM is frugalmag2 look me up or something... hopefully i'll know how to transfer the file... :) ~Maggie~ - -- "I don't like Elmo. He rubs me the wrong way." ~ Gella Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:36:11 GMT From: Aryn - Marietta Eaton Subject: Re: Madison Look for us, we'll be the grls with the Budgie dog cupcakes! Very Yummy! Aryn - --- Kathleen Cain wrote: > I'm going to be there!! I'm bringing a Fruvirgin > with me. > Kathleen > ===== Aryn - Marietta Eaton Lady Caelfind ni Mullen (called Alanna) Chatalaine and Minister of Children, shire of Innersea Offical Nothrshield Pouncer, CoFounder, House Ferrit Self professed Star Wars, U2, and Moxy Fruvous Fanatic "Dude, Jesus is hot!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V4 #106 ********************************************