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alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, January 30 2000 Volume 04 : Number 058



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: Minimal frucontent: Elian and GWS  [Lisa Carpenter <lmlc@sk.sympatico.]
  Re: on topic : questions!                              [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  Re: Jian's necklace                                    [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  Re: Elian and GWS                                      [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  Re: on topic : questions!                              [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  OT: As long as we're talking about death..             [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  Re: more weird talents (OT)                            [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  Re: more weird talents                                 [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  Re: more weird talents                                 [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  Re: You Can't Do that On Moxy Fruvous  ["Crystal Lee Cooper" <calliope136@]
  Re: OT: TMBG and Flapper Culture  [bnljane1@aol.combnl (Resident Movie Cri]
  Re: OT: weird talents                    [spychicr@aol.compoot (Rai-Marie)]
  Re: Elian and GWS                          [cookie <cookie@2cowherder.com>]
  Re: Minimal frucontent: Elian and GWS      [cookie <cookie@2cowherder.com>]
  Re: OT: TMBG and Flapper Culture  [bnljane1@aol.combnl (Resident Movie Cri]
  Re: OT: weird talents                 [Katie Hariman <khariman@uswest.net>]
  Reverse King of Spain!   [Amanda.K.Potter@Dartmouth.EDU (Amanda K. Potter)]
  Re: MP3Exchanger v1.13 New Internet utility. Use to exchange and locate binaries of any file format.  []
  Runes and things            [Katherine Bunting <castalusoria@netscape.net>]
  Re: Runes and things              [serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman)]
  Re: Runes and things                                   [SugarFly26@aol.com]
  nope (OT but relating to ng "history")                 [Raenfaerie@aol.com]
  Re: (OT) Reeds (was)Hanging spoons from noses  [leaben@aol.comBender (Leah]
  Fruvous webring                       [saphiracat83@aol.com (SaphiraCat83)]
  Re: Double Dare  ;)                       [piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO)]
  Re: nope (OT but relating to ng "history")  ["Rodney K. Elin" <ellin@rff.o]
  Re: (OT) Reeds (was)Hanging spoons from noses       [LilacGirl1002@aol.com]
  re: you can't do that onMoxy Fruvous  [Frances Fox <tenzinfox@appleonline.]

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:05:57 GMT
From: Lisa Carpenter <lmlc@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Minimal frucontent: Elian and GWS

cookie wrote:

> I think the only solution is to just split the kid down the middle and
> let each side have half. :-P
>

hey, hey, hey! let's not give these people any more ideas, even if it prob'ly
is the least painful way to deal with the entire situation.

prarieFrü
********************
and these were our words
our words were our songs
these songs are our prayers
these prayers keep me strong
and i still believe.....
********************

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:57:08 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: Re: on topic : questions!

<if just for the fact that the blank rune is not a talisman//or is usually not
used as one. <snip> knowing ji; someone gave it to him and it's either who it 
reminds him of or >

Not knowing Ji, in my case. But I'm tempted to think it's probably who or 
what it reminds him of. Dunno why, just a feeling. I don't get where the 
talisman comment came from though...? 

- ----------->  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:04:58 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jian's necklace

<It's been speculated that this person in some way influenced or is 
remembered whenever Fruvous performs the Drinking Song because during a 
certain few lines Jian
clutches it tightly.>

And perhaps in Fly, or so I've heard?

I think most of us probably have something like that. Our own equivalence of 
Jian's necklace. I know I have more than one thing that's like that.

- ------------>  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:10:24 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: Re: Elian and GWS

Like Cookie, I don't see the big deal in the whole Elian thing. Just before 
we switched classes, I had Spanish and we talked about it a bit during our 
Spanish news part of class. Someone brought in an article (which we have to 
do for Spanish news, otherwise known as noticias) about how the father was 
interviewed to see if he was an involved father and whatnot and it appeared 
that he was considering he knew his son's teachers and grades and interests 
and things. Someone told me they asked the kid what he wanted to do and he 
said go home, but I sorta doubt it because if they did and he said that how 
can there be any controversy whatsoever? Granted he's only 5 and doesn't have 
a lot of power to choose what he wants to do but really. I don't get it. 

- ------------->  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:02:29 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: Re: on topic : questions!

<*********Fate, destiny, kismet, karma. These are all descriptive of the
nature of this rune when it appears***********>

Well, the runes mean different things for different rune families and 
stuff..like for some the blank rune means simply the unknown. And then 
there's the fate, destiny etc. meaning to attach to that one. Usually they go 
along fairly well or are sorta close. I have a rune which is simply an upward 
arrow. (I forget its name. Shame on me.) To some it means motivation, and 
others it's like optimism or something. It depends on the rune's name. I 
don't know. There's so many things that go with runes, it's weird, and I'm 
sure we could get into a whole bunch of discussion about it, but it'd be 
sorta unending and frustrating. ::shrug::

- ------------->  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:13:55 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: OT: As long as we're talking about death..

What about Dr. Suess? Where'd ya hear this one?

- ----------->  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:20:06 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: Re: more weird talents (OT)

<snip story about bending forks/knives/etc>

One time someone stole a spoon from the cafeteria, and passed it to a friend, 
saying it was the friendship spoon. You had to pass it on within 5 minutes I 
think, to a friend that hadn't had it yet. 


- --------------->  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:17:03 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: Re: more weird talents

<butlately my most well, surprising talent is imitating every voice I hear to 
the best of my ability (although not *singing* voices! :))>

Hehe, lately I've been tryna get myself to sound like the guys. And some 
movie people, like the boss in Office Space..That would be grrrreat..

- ----------->  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:15:38 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: Re: more weird talents

<What's really fun in the dining hall is to get a bunch of cans of soda and 
salt
shakers drink half the sodas and put them on their edge (it's a really simple
trick that looks really cool) and balance the salt shakers in the middle of 
the
table and then leave. :) Oooh, we were so evil!!!>

When my mom and I were bored waiting to close up a totally dead restaurant 
late one night we poured salt all along one of the counters and balanced the 
salt and pepper shakers crisscrossed for the day crew to marvel at. :)

- -------------->  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:29:40 GMT
From: "Crystal Lee Cooper" <calliope136@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: You Can't Do that On Moxy Fruvous

yes! when i was younger i had almost the whole movie memorised. i had to buy
another copy of the video last year, after my first copy went all horrible
and fuzzy from being watched too many times. that would have to be one of my
favourite movies.
- ---
Crystal Lee Cooper
*~*~*~*~*~*
DrPyser@tmbgNOSPAM.org (remove the NOSPAM)
http://fly.to/drpyser
*~*~*~*~*~*


Carey Farrell <frodis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:20000130010829.16023.qmail@hotmail.com...
> Ln wrote:
>
> ><and I saw anoher post from someone who thinks David Bowie sucks? >
> >
> >Hey, man. David Bowie rocked in Labyrinth.
>
>
> OK, I'll give him that. Labyrinth is awesome! A few years ago, I saw it
for
> the first time since third grade, and I was blown away when I found out
that
> Terry Jones had written the screenplay, and the guy who plays the Cat on
> "Red Dwarf" was the voice for one of those firey guys.
>
> Bring me the babe,
> Carey
>
> ______________________________________________________
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>

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Date: 30 Jan 2000 06:38:38 GMT
From: bnljane1@aol.combnl (Resident Movie Critic)
Subject: Re: OT: TMBG and Flapper Culture

<<  I clicked
the link and followed it to this article about They Might Be Giants releasing
their new music via MP3.  Here's the link to the article: >>

Angela and I saw TMBG in...Nov? and they mentioned something about their newest
song being released as an MP3, but when I did a search back then, I couldn't
find anything.  Thanks for the link, I'll check it out as soon as I get caught
up in this NG!!!  ha ha  but that will apparently be never--can you guys just
stop posting for a few days so I can finally get caught up??   :-)




Cheryl
Barenaked in Mass
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Date: 30 Jan 2000 07:10:25 GMT
From: spychicr@aol.compoot (Rai-Marie)
Subject: Re: OT: weird talents

   Weird talents? Ooh... Plenty of those... But I'll just state my favorite....
   Bringing it back to the old Nick TV thing, I was watching "Wild 'N' Crazy
Kids" one day and I saw Donny make a shell out of his tounge. From that day on,
I was DETERMINED to be able to do it. And - this is the weird part - I actually
TRAINED my tounge to do that. I was in third grade or so, and I just would play
with my tounge (gross, I know, but true) to hold in that position.
   And now I can do it automatically.
   I can also cross all of my fingers at the same time.
   Peace out!
   --Rai-Marie, who is being quite weird again.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Rai-Marie (SpyChic@fruhead.com)'s a SPONGE MONKEY!!! 
"Okay. There's the 'b' album, and the forthcoming 'c' album, so why's there is
no 'a' album?"
"Because then it would have to be 'an' album."
~My friend Dee and her Dad.

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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:33:23 -0800
From: cookie <cookie@2cowherder.com>
Subject: Re: Elian and GWS

SugarFly26@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Like Cookie, I don't see the big deal in the whole Elian thing. Just before
> we switched classes, I had Spanish and we talked about it a bit during our
> Spanish news part of class. Someone brought in an article (which we have to
> do for Spanish news, otherwise known as noticias) about how the father was
> interviewed to see if he was an involved father and whatnot and it appeared
> that he was considering he knew his son's teachers and grades and interests
> and things. 

This is the kind of crap that bugs me. Whether he previously was
involved in his child's life is irrelevant. He's now legally and
entirely responsible for the upbringing of the kid, whether he likes it
or not--such are the responsiblities of procreation. The only reason why
he should *not* receive custody is if he's unfit as a parent, which it
appears he's not. 

> Someone told me they asked the kid what he wanted to do and he
> said go home, but I sorta doubt it because if they did and he said that how
> can there be any controversy whatsoever? Granted he's only 5 and doesn't have
> a lot of power to choose what he wants to do but really. I don't get it.

This whole thing has gone beyond what the kid wants or needs. I think
it's inevitable that little Elian will be returned to his father. I
really can see no legal way around it. I also think we'll have
difficulty remembering his name in a couple of years. These kind of
humanitarian stories have a tendency to flare pretty hot for a while,
and then burn themselves out. For example, does anyone remember the name
of the 7-year-old girl who tried to be the youngest pilot to fly across
the United States, only to be killed in Wyoming shortly after take-off
in a rainstorm? It was BIG news a couple of years ago, and today, I can
only remember her first name...Jessica. It's terribly sad, isn't it?

Cookie

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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:04:03 -0800
From: cookie <cookie@2cowherder.com>
Subject: Re: Minimal frucontent: Elian and GWS

Darn it! you insist on dragging me on topic, don't you? ;-)

I'm sure they could, if they chose to. 

However, if this topic is so important to you and you feel so strongly
about it, why don't you write one stating your point of view? It doesn't
matter if you've never written a song before. Everyone has to start
somewhere, and passion is a definite motivator that propells people into
the arts fields. Maybe you should give it a try? You may surprise
yourself!

Cookie
Who once again managed to stay pretty much off topic. Sorry.


Katie Hariman wrote:
> 
> I agree with you totally...but could/should MF write a song about all of
> this, maybe slightly similar to GWS? It just bothers me the way people are
> dealing with it, and I for one would LOVE  a song about it, especially an MF
> song!
> 
> Katie, who is wondering why the gateway isn't getting a lot of original posts
> to her mailbox...
> 
> cookie wrote:
> 
> > Warning! Opinionated Cookie about to spout:
> >
> > I seriously think this whole thing is ridiculous. The kid should go back
> > to Cuba like all the other Cuban children who are sent back daily. Why
> > is this situation any different than the others? The child is NOT an
> > orphan, for crying out loud! He belongs with his next of kin.
> >
> > I think this whole thing is more of a family conflict than a political
> > one. However, the people involved are politically connected, and they
> > realize that there are no laws allowing Elian to stay in the US, so
> > they've drug in the media to swing sympathy to their side in an attempt
> > to get around the law. If the great-uncle was so damn concerned about
> > Elian's welfare, why is he dragging an innocent 5 year old boy into a
> > political tug of war instead of letting--no, *insisting*--that the boy
> > return to his only surviving parent and try to re-establish a normal
> > life after the trauma of losing his mother?
> >
> > I think the only solution is to just split the kid down the middle and
> > let each side have half. :-P
> >
> > Cookie

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Date: 30 Jan 2000 08:55:02 GMT
From: bnljane1@aol.combnl (Resident Movie Critic)
Subject: Re: OT: TMBG and Flapper Culture

<< can you guys just
stop posting for a few days so I can finally get caught up??   :-)
 >>


Thought I would reply to my own post and say that as of this moment (1/30/00,
4am) I am finally caught up!!!!!!  Thank you, and I return you to your
regularly scheduled newsgroup.



Cheryl
Barenaked in Mass
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:56:26 +0900
From: Katie Hariman <khariman@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: OT: weird talents

Rai-Marie wrote:

<<I actually TRAINED my tounge to do that. I was in third grade or so, and I just
would play
with my tounge (gross, I know, but true) to hold in that position.>>

Heehee...when I was in 3rd grade one of my best friends could touch her tongue to
her nose and I thought that was SO COOL that I had to do it.  Like you, I would
play with my tongue, but I would stretch it until it touched my nose.  I remember
it hurting, but I guess my 3rd grade self thought that the pain was worth it.
Well, I reaped the fruits of my labor and can now successfully touch my tongue to
my nose. *pats self on back* Anyways, just felt like sharing...

Katie...who seems to be sharing a lot lately...

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:34:03 GMT
From: Amanda.K.Potter@Dartmouth.EDU (Amanda K. Potter)
Subject: Reverse King of Spain!

My mom sent this article to me- I'm telling you I was the King of Ghana???   =) 


It's a bit long, but it's quite hilarious.


Enjoy!


=) Amanda


MAN STUMBLES INTO AFRICAN KINGSHIP


AMSTERDAM, Netherlands- A middle-aged, paunchy, unemployed white man plops down
on the sofa to watch TV with his kids.

  Meet King Togbe Korsi Ferdinand Gakpetor II of Ghana.

  In Holland, the king is Henk Otte, a Dutch construction worker on welfare. In
West Africa, he rules part of the lush Volta Region, home to tens of thousands
of Ewes who rever him as Togbe, or king.

  Otte, 43, is as Dutch as the Dutch come, born and raised in Amsterdam like his
parents. He lives in an Amsterdam housing project with his wife and two
children, and an ordinary life would have suited him just fine.

  But, while visiting the hometown of his Ghanaian-born wife in 1995, he was
identified as the reincarnation of the late chief, his wife's grandfather.

  "My two brothers were there when I was asked to become king," Otte said with a
chuckle. "When I translated for them what had been said, they almost choked with
laughter: 'You, a king? Ha!'"

   Now, when his brothers accompany him to Ghana, Otte is carried by
throne-bearers and surrounded by cheering crowds. Drummers pound and dancers
swirl in a surreal procession that has been shown on several Dutch television
documentaries.

   The region he rules, about 45 miles east of the capital, Accra, comprises
about 40 villages populated by more than 100,000 people. It was leaderless for
almost 17 years until the Dutchman was proclaimed king.

   Although he's considering moving to Ghana, Otte is aware that life as a king
isn't all fun and games. In Mepe, he is prohibited from eating or drinking in
public, he can't shake hands with the thousands of "commoners" who flock to his
side and is always escorted, even to the toilet.

   He will undergo a traditional installment ceremony on the fifth anniversary
of his crowning this August, a ritual that can last for weeks. 

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:37:42 +0100
From: no.sp@m.no.no.no (youtH)
Subject: Re: MP3Exchanger v1.13 New Internet utility. Use to exchange and locate binaries of any file format.

 wrote on 30 Jan 2000 in  alt.music.mods:

>ftp://mp3exchanger.dynip.com/mp3exchanger.exe
>
>By downloading and using, you can:
>
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Providing they are online right? :)

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>to offer. 5) Access the search engine and search all files users,
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I don't get this one, how on earth can you 100% guarantee delivery?

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- -- 
- - youtH [mailto:youthpants@c64.org] <-- drop the pants or it will bounce!
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:19:45 GMT
From: Katherine Bunting <castalusoria@netscape.net>
Subject: Runes and things

And now, to further enter the world of over-interpretation...

Just as pure speculation, I wonder if Jian tugging at the pendant is as much
subconscious as it is conscious?  I mean, it's not like he has a lot of *time*
to do it in a number of other songs, what with both hands on the drumsticks or
the dumbek, or what-have-you.  When I'm being pensive, I'm known to fiddle
with a pendant I wear on a chain, or with one of my rings.  A friend I know is
never without a lock of hair twirled around her finger when she's thinking. 
Could be that the friend who gave it to him isn't so much related to the song
as the pendant is his means-of-being-pensive, and it's during that song, where
he gets the chance?

Jian: if you're reading this...  *Really,* I don't always overspeculate like
this!  <grins>

>from one who used to read runes before graduating to Tarot
>Cards... 

Just for clarification-- I've never used runes.  Not my method; I just prefer
Tarot, is all...  not really a matter of 'graduation.'  Some folks read tea
leaves (I've never seen anything but squidgy bits at the bottom of the
teacup...  but, then again, I've never been too good at seeing shapes in
passing clouds, either!), some do palms...  Kind of a matter of preference, it
seems.  Whether you use the blank rune or not when you cast seems to hinge on
which school of thought you follow.

>(or the Washer at the Ford in my Arthurian Deck)

That's a great deck!

all the best,

- - Kate

"Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?"

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Date: 30 Jan 2000 17:28:13 GMT
From: serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman)
Subject: Re: Runes and things

<<snips the whole tarot/runes bit>>

For Christmas 2 years ago, I got this deck of playing cards that are
specifically for reading. I've tried several different decks, Rider-Waite,
Tarot of the Spirit, and Inner Child Cards, to name a few, and I find I get the
most accurate and true readings out of that deck of hearts, spades, clubs and
diamonds. Just my $.02. 
- -J
writing a song called the Ballad of Jill V. Fruhead
Ji-Murray person
The Leopard Lady
"She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter
Too short to play herself in a movie

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:47:39 GMT
From: SugarFly26@aol.com
Subject: Re: Runes and things

<Just as pure speculation, I wonder if Jian tugging at the pendant is as much
subconscious as it is conscious?>

Yeah, that's what I was wondering only I couldn't really word it. I have a 
necklace that I play with sometimes if I'm thinking (usually sadly) about the 
person who gave it to me, but I didn't even realize I did it till my friend 
asked why I keep fidgeting with it. It's more like automatic than consciously 
realizing oh, play with the necklace. 

- -------->  Ln

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:43:26 GMT
From: Raenfaerie@aol.com
Subject: nope (OT but relating to ng "history")

Okay, so it's been a while since the whole "Paul is Dead - ?" thread.  But I 
was running around about.com and came across a *very* extensive (someone had 
a lot of free time!) disproving of the "paul is dead" hoax.  I remember there 
was a list of evidence posted on the ng at that time - well, the conspiracy 
here is presented as far more vast than even that list.  All who have some 
vague interest and a lot of free time should check it out; it makes for 
humorous reading, particularly if you are somewhat familiar w/ Beatles 
lyrics.  If this address has been posted before, sorry.

 <A 
HREF="http://beatles.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://rmb.simplene
t.com/public/files/faqs/pid.html">About.com : 
http://rmb.simplenet.com/public/files/faqs/pid.html</A> 

happy surfing!
peace,
- -mm-
"Wednesday morning at five o'clock ..."

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Date: 30 Jan 2000 20:26:01 GMT
From: leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender)
Subject: Re: (OT) Reeds (was)Hanging spoons from noses

>********Wooohooooo. Shout out to the other double reed player!!!!***********
>

Hey!  What about me?  I've been playing oboe since...  um....  Thursday!  :)

- -Bender

- ----------------------------------
There are evil nuns from hell running around in my backyard.

- --- Hillary Bender (the evil sister from hell)
- ----------------------------------

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Date: 30 Jan 2000 20:51:51 GMT
From: saphiracat83@aol.com (SaphiraCat83)
Subject: Fruvous webring

I know that FDC has a list of links to other Fruvous sites on the web, but I
was inspired last night to make a web ring.  If anyone is interested in
submitting their site, the page is here:
http://welcome.to/the-fruvous-ring

If the redirection thing isn't activated yet, the link (with the really long
URL) is there.

Alrighty, that's all form me.

- -Saph

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Date: 30 Jan 2000 20:48:04 GMT
From: piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO)
Subject: Re: Double Dare  ;)

>
>Long story as to why, but I actually got a phone call from Marc Summers
>once...
>totally freaked my mother out because I came downstairs shrieking, "You'll
>never guess who just called!!"  ;)  He was totally nice.... very nifty
>moment.
>
Wow, how jealous am I?!!!!!!!  You go girl!!!!
My funniest phone moment- in college radio, I had a phone interview scheduled
with Fred Schneider from the B-52's.  He was calling from the East Coast and
there was a miscommunication as to what time zone he was calling to, so he
called about an hour early.  The unknowing program director answered the line
when it rang, put it on hold, and sped to my desk... "ANGEL!! The guy from the
B-52's is on the phone for you!! And he sounds- JUST- LIKE- THAT!!!"  It was
hilarious :)
Angel

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:18:23 GMT
From: "Rodney K. Elin" <ellin@rff.org>
Subject: Re: nope (OT but relating to ng "history")

I guess I missed the whole Paul is dead thread while I was in the
hospital. but as a somewhat hardcore Beatles fan my alternate choice
for my personalized license plate on my car  in Washington, DC was 
LMW28IF the license plate from the cover of Abbey Road that supposedly
gives clues to Paul's Death and subsequent replacement with a look
alike Paul. Fortunately I got my first choice.On Sun, 30 Jan 2000
18:43:26 GMT, Raenfaerie@aol.com wrote:

>Okay, so it's been a while since the whole "Paul is Dead - ?" thread.  But I 
>was running around about.com and came across a *very* extensive (someone had 
>a lot of free time!) disproving of the "paul is dead" hoax.  I remember there 
>was a list of evidence posted on the ng at that time - well, the conspiracy 
>here is presented as far more vast than even that list.  All who have some 
>vague interest and a lot of free time should check it out; it makes for 
>humorous reading, particularly if you are somewhat familiar w/ Beatles 
>lyrics.  If this address has been posted before, sorry.
>
> <A 
>HREF="http://beatles.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://rmb.simplene
>t.com/public/files/faqs/pid.html">About.com : 
>http://rmb.simplenet.com/public/files/faqs/pid.html</A> 
>
>happy surfing!
>peace,
>-mm-
>"Wednesday morning at five o'clock ..."

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:08:49 GMT
From: LilacGirl1002@aol.com
Subject: Re: (OT) Reeds (was)Hanging spoons from noses

In a message dated 1/30/2000 12:55:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
leaben@aol.comBender writes:

<< 
 Hey!  What about me?  I've been playing oboe since...  um....  Thursday!  :)
 
 -Bender
  >>
************Let me ammend my previous statement.  Wooooooohoooooooo!!!!  
Shout out to ALL of the double reed players.  Even though, if the truth be 
known, I haven't touched an oboe in 2 years, and I'm a drummer at heart. But 
I played oboe for seven years so I know.***********

Betsy

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:06:08 GMT
From: Frances Fox <tenzinfox@appleonline.net>
Subject: re: you can't do that onMoxy Fruvous

 I've tried sending this twice so far, & zippo. so here's the 3rd
attempt!!

Sugarfly wrote:

Suprisingly, I do remember where I was when I learned of Princess
Diana's
fatal car crash (online, actually) and I told my mom and stuff..I
remember we
watched part of the funeral before we left to go somewhere. We caught
Elton
John singing and some other parts. I heard once that there's a place
that
offers the "Diana Tour" where you dine at the Ritz and ride in a black
car
along her crash route until you end up at the hospital where she was
pronounced dead. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so does anyone

else
find that extremely morbid or wrong?

I remember very clearly where I was when told of Princess Di's death:
I'd had a really bad day with my (now)ex-fiance & was putting my shoes
on so we could go out for some food & he told me. I surprised myelf by
immediately bursting into tears! I'm not a Royalist at all, but think I
must have been feeling homesick, & the Royalty bring about a sense of
nostalgia for me (spent many summers as a kid taking exchange students
to Buckingham Palace- and going inside to sign the visitors book & watch

the changing of the guards from the inside!! Now, that was cool! Not
something that many people get to do!). I was stunned at the response
back in theUK, but then again I guess fairy tales charaters are
important for us. (Actually most people really!). I remember going into
the Shelter in NYC where I worked, on the day of the funeral at 5 AM as
certian clients had historical connections to the UK & had asked me to
be there with them: we sat in the tv room with about 30 other clients &
watched & cried- it was an amazingly healing time, especially in helping

them talk about death & loss (a subject very close to their hearts!)

As for the Diana tour, yes it's true. Unfortunately there are plenty of
morbid people around who would do something like that, especially if
it's a money earner,  but I don't know if it's still going. (I just
asked my dad- he says it only started recently but he doesn't have any
details). However, it's also interesting thinking about why people would

pay to be on a tour like that: is it just out of morbid curiosity (which

I think we all have to some extent- death is a fascinating topic), or is

it some sort of spiritual quest?!!

Being Buddhist, I'm very opposed to war & violence of any kind: I just
wish people could find a way to love themselves & be able to stand up to

people who are bullies. I know it's not easy, especially when you are
afraid of the consequences on the rest of your family. I've done a lot
of research with Tibetan refugees (and Tibetans in Tibet)- war &
oppression are an unfortuante part of world history- and will always be,

I think- it's just part of how humans operate. Sometimes I wonder
whether I have a romaticised view of how I want the world to be- but I
really do believe that love is the key. The Gulf War Song has always
resonated with me & sends shivers down my spine when sung live.

Frances, (who's been so busy checking out her new Zen tarot cards that
she hasn'tchanted 'Om Mani Padme Hum' for a while)

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