From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #995 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, December 3 1999 Volume 03 : Number 995 Today's Subjects: ----------------- 12/1 review, leopard lady style [serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman)] 12.1.99 NYC review [tmbgirl@my-deja.com] Happy Hannuka! [askinusa@aol.com (Aaron Kirsch)] I have an extra ticket for 12/4/99 clifton park ["Hell Hotel" ] Re: Ottawa Citizen article, Nov. 25, 1999 ["Mike Yoshioka" ] Re: vote! vote! vote! [chad schrock ] Re: More stuff about fishgirls [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead] Re: OT: Pat Buchanan ["Novac" ] More stuff about fishgirls [leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender)] Fruvous and Ehrenreich ["Zainab" ] Re: Gateway down again? [miyax ] Re: "sports" [Josh Drury ] Re: Gateway down again? [daancing_queen@my-deja.com] Re: 12.1.99 NYC review [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com] Re: 12.1.99 review [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Picture Time! Pittsburg Show! [Paul Mischler ] Re: 12.1.99 NYC review [tmbgirl@juno.com] 12.2.99 NYC review [tmbgirl@juno.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 02 Dec 1999 21:52:51 GMT From: serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman) Subject: 12/1 review, leopard lady style Hey all! You already saw the setlist from Jordan's review, so I will only rehash that when it's relevant. Hey to everyone I met last night btw! It all started when I met up w/ Jordan at her dorm, and we walked over to the Westbeth. It was a cold hike, but that's always a bit more bearable with a friend. : ) Sean Altman's set was really fun, and Nominology is real, dammit!!! ; ) It was really fun when Jian came out for Town, and the song sounded great, cheat sheet or no! I can't eat chocolate, so Sean's bribery of Hershy's miniatures didn't work on me. It wasn't necesarry though- I enjoyed his set. ; ) Tory Cassis's set was really good too. I asked him about a strumming pattern in one of his songs after the show, and he was very gracious about my question. (I didn't have a doubt he wouldn't be, but it was still pleasant to find out.) And now, the Fruvous set notes: Dave managed to break a string in the first song. I was impressed. After the song was over, he talked about how he kept hitting his head on the microphone. This led to a banter about how the sound that hitting his head made could actually work in the song. Jian talked about the fortune cookie fortune he got (which escapes me at the moment), and after he read it, about half the audience (including myself ::grin::) shouted out, "IN BED!!!!" Everyone cracked up. Murray read his, and everyone said it again. This was very funny because it was something to the effect of "You have keen powers of observation." Mike picked up on this and said, "You have keen powers of observation...and a papercut." They played Laika. This isn't a note, really, just a comment because this is one of my favorite frusongs. It was a treat. They did this cute Westbeth improv which included audience participation. There was a really funny bit in the beginning, but again it escapes me. Murray started to introduce the Kids song with a "Where Fruvous got their name..." that obviously took the other guys by surprise. It was cute anyway. Cuter still was the Kids Song itself...I'd never seen it live, and Mike and Murray's childish antics had me cracking up. Jian was trying to bully Murray, but it didn't work very well. A very cute song, plain and simple. Minnie the Moocher included bits about the riots in Seattle, the lighting of the Xmas tree (which no doubt made some people late last night), further calling Guliani a fascist, and of course, railing on George W. Tory came out to sing Jockey Full of Burbon. It was cool to see him again...he was dressed very snazzily, a fact I forgot to mention above. I believe Jordan got the rest of it.... At one point someone yelled out for "Pico the Bandit Fish." I thought Jian was going to throw something at that guy. (regardless of gender, anyone who says something like that deserves to be called That Guy.) All in all it was a great show...Can't wait for tonight! (btw, that was my first review...apologies if it wasn't that great) See you there tonight, whoever's going! - -J writing a song called the Ballad of Jill V. Fruhead Ji-Murray person Owner of all the MF albums and all of Ani DiFranco's "She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter Too short to play herself in a movie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:02:39 GMT From: tmbgirl@my-deja.com Subject: 12.1.99 NYC review I tried sending this last night but people are telling me they didn't get it so here goes again, all apologies if this is the second time you're reading this! Ok, i know most of my reviews are extremely long-winded but i'm sleepy - - i have class in a few hours so i'm gonna make this as short and sweet as i possibly can (still doesn't say much). Aside from the fact that it's extremely cold out today, and i'm incredibly sick (aw puddin) - i still decided to trek the mile and a half in the cold to the show. Thankfully Jill agreed to walk from NYU down to the show and kept me great company. Today's Voice had the same Fruvous ad as it has the last few weeks except that there's a big bubble that says "Tonight and Thursday!" plastered over the picture. apparently there's a dismal review of them in there but i must have skipped over that this morning while looking at it - I was busy tryign to tune in FUV (which never worked). When we arrived there were only a few people in (no, not on) line and one of 'em was a TMBG fan come to check out Fruvous. (yay!). Perhaps he was there along with the other tmbg fans that were there to check out opener number one... SEAN ALTMAN: I remember the days when the chick (nancy?) that is in charge of his website used to post to the TMBG mailing list claiming that we'd all love Sean Altman's work.. yaddayadda. I always saw her as posting irrelevant crap to the list and then cheaply plugging sean's site. Anyways, i'd heard a few mp3s of his stuff before the show and thought he sounded like a mix of New Kids On The Block and Andy Partridge (of XTC). Anyways, i was throughly impressed with his set - i'm totally all about his music now (and no, it's not because he gave us all chocolate when he came out!). The highlight of the show was when Jian came out and sang with him for "town." it was pretty funny cuz jian didn't really know all the words and was just kind of following sean's lead. Checked with his cheat sheet a few times. it sounded really groovy tho... TORY CASSIS: Arrived on stage claiming he was "the extremely late Tory Cassis." He looked like Jason Lee (as jill pointed out) a bit which was entermusing. I really like his work. it was very nice. Murray was the guest star for this one and was "funkin" damn well :) FRUVOUS: Well well. apparently the boys all arived on stage in the exact same clothes they wore on monday.... except i guess jian changed his pants. which may i comment - i think this was the very first frushow i was ever at that jian *wasn't* wearing tight pants. anyways... I'm going to post the setlist and stay away from the banter until i listen to a copy of the show... It's not that it's not worth commenting on - just not as *excellent* as it has been in the past. DOWN HORSE LAIKA 1/2 INDY WENCH LAZY (wow, can i just say *yay* - It appeared as tho they were playing this song for someone that had requested it. not sure but if that was the case - right on with the requestage). KIDZ (before this murray started them on the "definition of fruvous" and dave commented something like "i don't know where fruvous comes from and i also don't know what song you plan on introducing here") MINNIE (fiona snapple?) SPLAT JOCKEY (with guest singer Tory Cassis) *note: splat and jockey were switched in the show VIDEO (disco) TUREEN HOLD MPG RIVER CAR SHIT PSYCHO - ----------- Michy - ----------- King Gr - ----------- Lose (with guest singer sean altman - i kept myself entertained during this song thinking they were singing "loose" anyways...) Drink all in all an amazing show. i chatted with a few of the lads après show. It was actually the first time i ever even approached murray for something other than an autograph. conversation with him was nice - Tory Cassis joined in the conversation in a rather crude yet highly entertaining manner "i haven't done that since i was in 7th grade" Mur: "i know your type - you did that last week!". Ji made my night singing a little ditty to me (always proud my name is jordan*grin* sorry...) :) (and to jill and anita... *grin* no comment but i'm sure you know what i'm thinking!)*sigh* to all the fruheads i met (and re-met) - it was a total blast, i hope to see you kids tomorrow night and if not - make sure you e-mail me and say "Hey hey!" I really dig the fact that there really is a "fruhead community" on the east coast. It's so much different than the CO shows (not a bad thing - just different). I really enjoyed it and can only hope for as much entermusement tomorrow! :D take it easy, Special J http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3404/frustuff.html Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: 03 Dec 1999 20:22:30 GMT From: askinusa@aol.com (Aaron Kirsch) Subject: Happy Hannuka! As most of you may know, tonight is the first night of Hannuka and I just wanted to wish all of my Jewish fruheads out there a happy Hannuka. Once Again, Happy Hannuka "Hamburgers are made of the ground up remains of people from Hamburg, right?" - -Calvin and Hobbes ------------------------------ Date: 3 Dec 1999 11:44:40 GMT From: "Hell Hotel" Subject: I have an extra ticket for 12/4/99 clifton park just what the subject says, one of my friends can't get home from geneseo this weekend so I have an extra ticket laying around...If anyone wants it PLEASE just email me and we'll work something out, thanks. - -Eric EricJ@fruhead.com ------------------------------ Date: 03 Dec 1999 12:56:40 GMT From: fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) Subject: Re: 12.2.99 NYC review *whimper* Due to many crisies exploding, I got there late and apparently only missed ONE song!!! I am destined to never hear Sahara again. *sigh* Sahara AND Raja in the same show and I had to be late. *whine* ladywench "Music not danced to is music wasted." - Eileen Ivers, PFF 38 FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . ------------------------------ Date: 3 Dec 1999 00:46:49 GMT From: "Hell Hotel" Subject: extra ticket for 12/4 Clifton Park Hey!! I have an extra ticket here for the show this saturday in clifton park. If anyone wants it please email me for it, the first person to email me gets it for...$15? sound good? we'll work out how i'm gonna get it to you after i find out who gets it(probably outside the venue the night of). Please email me soon, i don't really want to have this ticket sitting around for nothing. thanks - -Eric Jackson EricJ@fruhead.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:28:05 -0800 From: "Mike Yoshioka" Subject: Re: Ottawa Citizen article, Nov. 25, 1999 Hugo Rodrigues wrote in message >"Touring in U.S. pays off for Moxy Fruvous" >By Wes Smiderle *snip* Thanks for writing that whole thing out Hugo. I found the article interesting :) Mike aka Racer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 22:34:54 -0500 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: A question for the american fans out there.... Novac wrote: > "You probably can't understand most of the songs from the early > years???" Hrmph! Using that logic, I'm sure you Canadians > probably can't understand "The Greatest Man in America" or > "Michigan Militia"! Hrmph. > --Novac...Americans have brains, y'know We just rarely use them. - -- chad at radix dot net "You ship is sinking" --My fortune cookie tonight ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:29:28 GMT From: vika@attglobal.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Anyone need a ride to CP from the Boston area? Hello, all, Well, the lovely-buddhist-vegetarian-optician ex-roomie who was gonna go with me to Clifton Park has bailed out: last minute rescheduled final. Anyone need a ride? Holler via e-mail. I'll be going from Norwood, MA (southwest of Boston) sometime on Sat. afternoon, and can pick people up anywhere along I-95 (near Boston) or I-90 (between Boston and exit 4). - -v - -------- Vika Zafrin -------- vika@attglobal.net -------- http://www.brown.edu/Research/Decameron "You never know where you're going 'til you know where you've been." -Will Smith's dad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 05:40:17 GMT From: "Anna!" Subject: Re: Stage names WAS Fruheads unite and..Calm DOWN Tracey Kast wrote: > >For all we know, their names are not really even Murray, Mike, > >Jian, and Dave. (Well, that *is* actually true, but you get my point.) > Okay, so this may display my naivete, but are the lads using stage names? > Not that it really matters; I am just curious. Nah, they don't have stage names :) - -anna- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 23:05:12 -0500 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: WXPN is now Streaming! Ellen wrote: > > peace, > ellen (couldn't just use RealPlayer, *could* they? ;) One thing at a time. I'm thinking that the WMP was/is cheaper than a Real Audio server. (The RA servers are ungodly expensive, at least for commercial and gov't users.) So far, at work, I've been able to listen to XPN on and off for the last week, but the (*@#^%(# WMP keeps dropping the connection. RealAudio would make me happier, then I could listen to XPN on my UNIX box, however they sound pretty good on my laptop. :) - -- chad at radix dot net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 23:09:55 -0500 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: vote! vote! vote! Thanks for posting this Ellen! I've been meaning to for a while now. A suggestion/request to those of you that vote, though. Don't pick sucky albums. Those of us that listen to XPN don't want to listen to sucky albums in the week between Christmas and New Years. Thanks! :) Ellen wrote: > > And while you're all pointing your browsers to www.wxpn.org, > take note! WXPN is now taking votes for its Top 50 of 1999. > Thornhill is a suggested album; you don't even have to type > it in. > > peace, > ellen - -- chad at radix dot net oh the bitter irony of listening to WRNR now. ;) ------------------------------ Date: 03 Dec 1999 03:05:04 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: More stuff about fishgirls Leah alleged: >Disclaimer: > >LORI MADE ME DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I most certainly did *not*. Why, I haven't even seen leah since Monday. I merely suggested that it seemed like a suitable definition, and as I've been having newsreader problems perhaps she should be the one to post it. Still having newsreader probs -- it is alleged that 20 messages from today await me, but I only actually see 4 of them. Go figure. Of course, one of them would be Leah's, just so I can find out that Ding Dong the Fish Is Dead, Mean Old Fish, Fishy Fish ... :) - -- Lori **************** I could really use to lose my Catholic conscience Cause I'm getting sick of feeling guilty all the time ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:37:50 -0500 From: "Novac" Subject: Re: OT: Pat Buchanan Melanie wrote in message news:s8469923.069@redeemer-cincy.org... > > >just checking to see if I have my newsreader setup right. > >why are you reading this anyway? > > Actually, I'm checking on something too and figured no one would read this thread. melanie > Well, knowing that *I* read this NG, you realize that *I* will read this thread, and not only that, I will POST on it, too. Every time! - --Novac ------------------------------ Date: 03 Dec 1999 01:14:47 GMT From: leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender) Subject: More stuff about fishgirls Disclaimer: LORI MADE ME DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay, now that's out of the way... I think that the true definition of "Fishgirl" (fishpeople in general) has been found... It has been found in no place other than my oh so beloved Atlantic City High School. See, the school was built in the middle of the marsh, for some odd reason... And half of the student body acts like they just crawled out of said marsh and into some Tommy Hilfiger. You know, maybe that would explain the funny smell around the pool............. - -Bender (My bio teacher had an evil fish in his tank, but he died and the other fishies ate him... yay! Irrelevant Leah Comment!) - ---------------------------------- There's nothing like cold pseudo-Mexican food on a cold morning... Mmmm, straight from the styrofoam, that's the way... - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:18:53 -0600 From: "Zainab" Subject: Fruvous and Ehrenreich Hello, beautiful fruheads! I went to a lecture tonight by Barbara Ehrenreich. She is a wondeful feminist pacifist, who spoke on her theory about war. After hearing her talk for a delightful hour, it occurred to me that her entire thesis could be summed up in these few lines: We came from monkeys we once were hunted perhaps we recognize that hunted human fate. Perhaps the suburbs are just far too antiseptic, kids need some splatter splatter messin up the place. Really there was much more to it but these lines do kind of encasulate some of her main theses. Zainab ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 18:53:33 -0500 From: miyax Subject: Re: Gateway down again? Excuse me, Veronika? Yeah you forgot the text. It's ok, it happens all the time - -- miyax, the Evil and Sinister Prime Minister of the Silver Millenium (bwa ha ha) _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ For the most Interesting sites on the net, check out the Interesting Link of the Month hq @ http://secondhandwonder.virtualave.net While you're there, check out: *WinAmp Skins - for a change of interface *The American's Guide to Sailor Moon - the title says it all Click on "Return to Main" to access the mini-network. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:32:11 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: "sports" Stephen Noel Spencer wrote: > That's the story! We were there (at the show in Toledo) that night. The boys > were poking fun at the powers-that-be in Toledo who named the sports arena > in their fair city, "Sports Arena." Poking fun at that name? I think it's great! Very to the point... and without that pervasive corporate sponsorship that goes into the name of seemingly every sporting venue these days. Unless it's sponsored by the Sports Corp. or some such company I haven't heard of... Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:55:48 GMT From: daancing_queen@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Gateway down again? Vika politely suggested: > If you need my help in figuring out how to turn off MIME encoding in > your newsreader, please let me know privately. Or maybe it could be added to the FAQ. And something more than just saying "don't post in MIME or HTML" - something more detailed. Because if messages are appearing fine to them, then they might not even know that they are posting in MIME. Or what MIME is (what is MIME anyways?). Same for HTML, they might not even realize that their newsreader is doing that (like Outlook Express which is defaulted to send email in HTML - ugh!) Just a suggestion Sara Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: 03 Dec 1999 18:19:07 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: 12.1.99 NYC review Jordan said someone said: > I >>don't think there's any problem with the newsgroup; it's >>just been quiet today and jordan's first review did in fact >>appear; it just turned up in the thread entitled "10/30 review." > >ok so is that where my 12.2.99 post dissappeared to? or am i supposed to >re-send that one as well? okay, I got Jordan's 12/2/99 review, properly threaded as itself and not mingled in some long-obsolete thread, but I haven't seen the post she quotes above. I'm also missing 20 posts from yesterday that my newsreader says exist by its accounting, but which don't actually show up in the post listing. There is something VERY *VERY* weird going on not only with the mailing gateway, which hasn't sent anything since Monday as far as I can tell, but also with various newsreaders. I call this a Y2Kaput situation. - -- Lori **************** I could really stand to lose my Catholic conscience Because I'm getting sick of feeling guilty all the time ... ------------------------------ Date: 02 Dec 1999 07:29:36 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: 12.1.99 review before I sleep, just wanted to recount the opening comment of tonight's show: zealous audience member: "I love you Jian!!!" Jian: "Well, apparently it's not cool to love me." goodnight. ~jen (with one full frumiles card. yay ;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23"-- Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."--Rent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 23:00:25 -0500 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Picture Time! Pittsburg Show! Hi all! It's your Fru-Friendly Fotographer here, just want you all to know that I have _finally_ gotten around to working on some of the pictures from my recent frutrip :-) I have the pictures from the Pittsburgh show all ready, and in 3 different formats... 1: ALL of the pictures I took, good and bad. 7MB of pictures in a ZIP file. (It comes out to about 12 MB as an attachment) 2: The best pictures I got at their full size. There's 9 of these, and they come out to about 1 MB when e-mailed. 3: The best pictures I got, just in a smaller format. There's 9 pictures, about 500 Kb in a ZIP file. If you're interested in getting them, please send me an e-mail, and tell me which format you'd like! Happy Frutripping all! - -Paul Mischler ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 15:10:47 GMT From: tmbgirl@juno.com Subject: Re: 12.1.99 NYC review >What a pointless post! OK, here's something helpful: I >don't think there's any problem with the newsgroup; it's >just been quiet today and jordan's first review did in fact >appear; it just turned up in the thread entitled "10/30 review." ok so is that where my 12.2.99 post dissappeared to? or am i supposed to re-send that one as well? take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3404/frustuff.html the birthday countdown: 23 days. are you ready Vegas? ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 07:57:00 GMT From: tmbgirl@juno.com Subject: 12.2.99 NYC review HEY HEY! here goes, again... this will be quick simply because it's 2am and i've got divisionals (yes, that's swimming championships for any that don't know me) in about 6 hours. The opening band - NEAR - i think i'd need to hear 'em more before i could start digging their vibe. (mind you - this is coming from someone that likes a total of 4 female singers). Of the two chicks in the band, i liked the frufan's (non-lead singer's) voice better. i think i could have dug the band if it was more of her... mho. Next we had TORY CASSIS again. Tonight's show was almost exactly like last nights and since i already said how much i enjoyed him last night... he shared a story and a most revolting christmas gift that he had bought in teh village. A clear plastic globe (resemblign snow-globes) with flowers that alternately lit up and circled while playing a most revolting tune... it was great. Oh oh - FRUVOUS! here's the setlist. tonight's show lasted about 2h20m and it appeared as if it might have been longer if only Dave hadn't of gotten sick :( SAHARA *less talksie more moxy. no more of this talking inbetween songs - we're just gonna come up here and do 'em 1 2 3 4 *"here's another song from our new album" some guy from the back (yes, this was near teh bar) moans extremely loudly and to that murray says "i hope you just found a hair in your drink" and jian mummbled "or poison" *somewhere in here i swear Jian mentioned fiona snapple again *grin* 1/2 SPLAT INDY SAD BOSS *wow* the dancing just makes it. PISCO *i can only wonder if the "peeeeko" guy from last night was there! VIDEO *disco BOOTY JOCKEY *again with tory cassis singing - except this time he started to sing the wrong verse at one point and quickly noticed his mistake... RAJA MICHY SAUCE HOLD NUITS KING DARLIN' *lou.... DANCE - --------- PSYCHO *same clapping problem we experienced last night... After Jian signaled for us all to stop clapping some people just kept on. I figured they must have been stuck behind pillars *grin* (coem on, it's the only option). - --------- FLY *yay! i was so psyched to hear this song live again! - --------- *note, the third encore was entirley cut b/c dave was "hoarse" instead of what's listed we were treated to If Only You Knew. (no complaints here). AUTHOR CAR MPG Improv that started with murray;s people and then noticing how one of murray's people had ended up in front of dave and to that "where are dave's people?" murray claiming "dave has no people" jian had to remind him how harsh he was being. murray got an evil little grin... hehee. >:) there was the most amazing/entermusing improv - carribean style where they "played every reggae song we know - which is two" it was very nice. The place was waaay more packed tonight than last night and the crowd was much more active, responsive, and in some cases obnoxious. again, great :D this had to be the longest, and best frushow i've been at in awhile. Oh oh - post show fun. Just kind of chilled in one spot (honest that's the way to do it) and slowly but surely was able to say bye to most of you fruheads that i'd met the past few days. i hope to be seeing you all soon! Uhm, other than that - murray and jian were the only ones that really came out to chat. As always, i'm sure i bug them a bunch but come on - i gotta love 'em :D i did get to hear the "get away jordan" song again from jian - very very nice *smirk* which now as i think about it may be a clue as to just how much i really do bug 'em (come on... GET AWAY!) *grin* i'm just playing. it was fun. dave was a sweetie... he'd been upstairs and a few of us crazies had been waiting until well after the show and because all of the bouncers wanted to leave - they asked us who we were waiting for. with that they go up and talk to mike and dave and soon enough dave comes down to chat despite the fact that he was sick (and sounded pretty rough too!) Sooooo... since my NYE will be spent in vegas (no comment) rather than fruvousing... i've been offered quite a few appealing rides/crashspace/etc. offers for frucon this year (oh yeah, you know i said that last year and the year before but honest... it's sounding soooo much more likely this year) that i may see you kids there next. take it easy, Special J (JOrdaN) http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3404/frustuff.html the birthday countdown has begun: 24 days :) are you ready vegas? ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #995 ********************************************