From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #835 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, September 21 1999 Volume 03 : Number 835 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Food for thought on Tapers [Ellen ] Re: Question about banter (kind of long) [Tamra ] Re: Tory Cassis [cricket5@hotmail.com] Re: Food for thought on Tapers [Nate DeRose ] Re: Food for thought on Tapers [coondog42@my-deja.com] Re: Food for thought on Tapers [Ellen ] 2nd Conan song? [Tamra ] Re: Question about banter (kind of long) [Chad Maloney ] Re: Question about banter (was Comments on Detroit 9/17) [LSan497884@aol.] *itinerary* [moxy@passport.ca (Moxy Fruvous)] Re: *itinerary* ["Winnie da Fru aka Sara" ] Re: Question about banter (was Comments on Detroit 9/17) ["Winnie da Fru ] Re: *itinerary* [Lawrence P Solomon ] second Conan song ["Tim Deegan" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:47:07 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: Food for thought on Tapers this doesn't help the current taping situation with fruvous much, but as added food for thought, bands like phish and the grateful dead who have official policies on taping (i.e that they allow it, period) actually set aside a taper area at each show. it's usually just behind the soundboard. this is a great idea, IMO, because if you care about your view then you know not to sit behind the tapers. and if you want to yell and scream, you (hopefully) know not to sit near the tapers. etc etc. it helps a lot to have a defined taper area. that way, the tapers have a right to their space and others have a right not to be around tapers if they don't want to. if fruvous would come out publically in support of taping, things like this would be easier to manage. at the moment, it's a little too randomly arranged. tapers have no spot that is guaranteed to be theirs, where they can get good sound, and nontapers have no guarantee that a taper will not be set up right in front of where they are sitting. both of these things *could* be arranged with a little forethought. i'm sure one of the taper folk here will correct me if i'm wrong, but everything i hear about fruvous's policy on taping is kind of ambiguous. they allow it, they don't really seem to support it, though. on the surface they don't seem to mind it, but they do make snide remarks about it occasionally. it'd be nice if they'd make up their minds once and for all. i understand that they might be unsure what effect taping will have on their ability to sell tix, albums, etc. but surely there's someone out there more knowledgeable than me who could set them straight. it sure didn't hurt the dead; they were one of the top-grossing touring acts year after year. it sure hasn't hurt phish. ditto dave matthews. anyway, just some more thoughts to chew on. peace, ellen ******************************************************************* Everything anybody ever believed will be disproved next week Friday. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:19:43 GMT From: Tamra Subject: Re: Question about banter (kind of long) A.J. chimes in with: >To summarize: Shit is worse than an orgasm. Anyone disagree? :) And I say: Context, people! Context!!!! I've known some good shit, man. %} tamra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:32:56 GMT From: cricket5@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Tory Cassis In article <19990920111442.06666.00000096@ng-ch1.aol.com>, nasust@aol.com (NasusT) wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry for posting off-topic, but I wanted to let any Buffalo area folks know > that if you are looking for a copy of Tory Cassis' CD, and don't want to drive > to Canada, New World Records (498 Elmwood Ave) has 5 copies in stock. I highly > recommend it! > > If someone out of town would like me to buy them a copy and send it, let me > know. I'd be glad to do it. > Wow, Susan, what a great offer :) Folks can also pick it up online at Canadian CD stores such as absound.com I second Susan's recommendation. It's a great CD. Those of you planning on going to the Western Canadian Fruvous shows are in for a real treat, as Tory will be the opening act :) - --Mary www.marykrause.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:26:24 -0400 From: Nate DeRose Subject: Re: Food for thought on Tapers In regards to a taper section..... I agree that when you have a band such as the dead, phish, etc who have tons of tapers, a taper section is a great idea! However, they're playing huge venues.... statiums, open fields, etc.... whereas fruvous is playing mainly small clubs. When you go to try and make a fruvous taper's section, you'd kinda be roping off a 5' X 5' square.... :) There aren't tons of tapers... and having to deal with getting that place roped off, explaining to the venue, etc... is just an added headache. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE having a designated spot to go to at each show.... I just don't think it's feasible considering the size of Fruvous' shows..... (Perhaps once they're playing stadiums.... :) ) Cheers, nate Ellen wrote: > > this doesn't help the current taping situation with fruvous much, but as > added food for thought, bands like phish and the grateful dead who have > official policies on taping (i.e that they allow it, period) actually set > aside a taper area at each show. it's usually just behind the soundboard. > this is a great idea, IMO, because if you care about your view then you > know not to sit behind the tapers. and if you want to yell and scream, > you (hopefully) know not to sit near the tapers. etc etc. > > it helps a lot to have a defined taper area. that way, the tapers have a > right to their space and others have a right not to be around tapers if > they don't want to. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:30:15 GMT From: coondog42@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Food for thought on Tapers That's an excellent thought, and personally it would be great if I didn't have to show up 2 hours before show, to be near the front of the line to get a good spot. But, on the other hand, Phish and the Dead play hugh venues, where the sound board is always in the middle of the venue (I'm still beefing about the Magic Bag) and in venues where there are assigned seats, very few (and none that I've been to) Fruvous shows have assigned seats, it's all GA. Oh well... another $.02 :) - -Mark....... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:51:19 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: Food for thought on Tapers In article <7s889l$fu8$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, coondog42@my-deja.com wrote: > But, on the other hand, Phish and the Dead play hugh venues, where the > sound board is always in the middle of the venue (I'm still beefing > about the Magic Bag) and in venues where there are assigned seats, very > few (and none that I've been to) Fruvous shows have assigned seats, > it's all GA. i wasn't around to see any dead shows at smaller venues (i wasn't even born yet, actually ;) but i saw phish when they were still playing clubs smaller than some of the places fruvous is playing now. the drill was the same, although there weren't specific tapers tickets. the venue designated where the taping section was, and anyone bringing in taping gear was directed to the tapers' section. which, btw, doesn't have to be behind the soundboard; that was just an example. it actually works better when the venue is GA, because that way, the tapers don't neccessarily have to be all the way in the back, and wherever the tapers are, no one *has* to be behind them if they don't want to. i often do hang around behind the tapers at phish shows because (1) i'm sometimes meeting someone there (2) it's often less crowded, and (3) unlike at fruvous shows, i don't much care what's happening on stage. ;) peace, ellen (promoting good taper-nontaper relations everywhere) ********************************************* This isn't who it would be if it wasn't who it is... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:03:51 GMT From: Tamra Subject: 2nd Conan song? Hi all - I'm in a chatty mood today and on my 1.5 hr commute to work this AM (in the rain...) I had ample time to ponder this question: We heard publicly that the lads will do Splatter, Splatter (SS) on Conan, what do you think song two will be? Assuming the record companies don't insist/dictate IWHO for purely promotional reasons (single release, etc), what do you think *the lads* choice will be? Obviously, stating that I feel chatty today means I'm going to lay my hypothesis on you, so you've been warned... Ahem. OK, so correct me if I'm wrong, but here, finally, is their first, big shining moment on American, national TV. They have two songs with which to snag & hold the attention span of the typical Conan viewer, which, *I assume* is age 18-40, m&f,...and intrigue said veiwer enough to make them: a) run out and purchase Thornhill & other MF CD's b) talk about this kewl, Canadian band they saw on Conan to absolutely everyone they know c) flock to concerts Order is important, but we'll get to that later =) SS is a given, so what do they do for an encore (assuming SS is first)? Should it be vintage Fruvous (aka KoS, Authors, Greatest Man) or purely new (Thornhill)? Serious or light? Latte or DeCaf???? Hmmmmmmmm...... I say go for new. As much as I like IWHO, (with orphaned backing vocals reunited, please!), I think they should go for *beyond* formulaic ballads or romantic appeal...thats only half the audience. I would love to see them do Earthquakes... Both SS and Earthq's include more unusual instrumentation, i.e. accordion & banjo and, lyrically, would speak more (i think) to the average Conanian (new word, not a typo). Vocals on both are complex and more unique than standard, pop harmony. My two fav songs on Thornhill are Independnce Day and If Only You Knew, but I'd rather see the lads do something that will capture the audience and broaden their appeal to the unenlightened... Order? I would put SS first, for attention grabbing purposes and blow them away (the viewers!) with Earthquakes, 2nd. JMHO, but hopefully the rest of you will comment...gosh, an on topic thread here! tamra, who has been double-dog dared to log onto irc but is worried that she will wreak havoc....soon says I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:53:44 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Question about banter (kind of long) truztno1 wrote: [major snippage of way too gratuitously quotes that needed to be snipped out] > ok, thanks, that was what I was talking about. When I meant that my parents > wouldn't like it, I meant something along the line of "we want to see nude > people having orgasms at the show" rather than ordinary, everyday curses such as > s***, f***, etc. At all-ages shows, the band makes a conscious attempt to not yell out of fuck at each opportunity. The word is a part of their vocabulary and they use it when they deem it appropriate. As good, responsible performers, they do their best to modify their vocabulary to the audience. As much as we give make it out to sound like the entire contents of Mike Ford's on stage words are "Fuckin' here's another fucking song - You Fuckin' Will Go to the Fuckin' Moon" it's not like that at all. They use profanity about 90% of the time as exclamations or chiding name calling (like "Free again you fucker" from Live Noise or the Oscar thing). I've seen shows with no profanity and I've seen shows laden with profanity. None of it to me was even borderline offensive in the idea of what they were saying. And, to set the record straight on the Chicago thing, I was there. It started with Jian mumbling through "if you are new to Moxy Fruvous" which Murray took as "nude to Moxy Fruvous" which kicked off into talking about rewards for coming to the show nude. If you come to the show all the way from home naked, you get $2 off. But you have to make sure that a bouncer sees you. You can't just walk in and go home. If you just take off your clothes there in the venue, that's $1 off. Either way, you have to come in the venue naked. Dave started to key off the "come in the venue" part, but dropped it (probably thinking that the dirty joke was ok in his head and borderline at the show). Jian goaded him into staying with his joke and he did it uncomfortably and half-assedly. The joke never really came out and the subject was dropped pretty quickly. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:02:34 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Question about banter (was Comments on Detroit 9/17) Lawrence P Solomon wrote: > > The Toolman wrote: > > >The words by themselves, unless specifically intended to hurt (like derogatory > > >terms for specific groups of people) are totally harmless. > > > > Until a kindergardener says 'F***ing Nap Time Again??' > > and how is that harmful? Pardon me while I get sugarly metaphorical. Note that I'm not a child anymore. I'm also not a parent, though I do look forward to experience a whole lot. To me, Lawrence, that is very harmful. A child born into the world is a block of sculptures clay made in the form a beautiful little ugle cuddly mob of baby. It's a clean slate and parenting is the process of making this grow into a nice beautiful adult statue. And to make this process even harder, as time passes, more and more clay is added to the sculture whether the sculptor wants it or not. Each day, a blotch or two extra get added on and need to be worked into the end resulting sculpture. The sculptor doesn't ask for this, but when it comes down to it, the sculptor's pride and joy is this sculpture and tomorrow, when the artist who kindly blotched on that extra clay is gone, the sculptor is going to be back massaging and molding the scultpure, including this extra blotch. Eventually the sculture takes life of its own and has its own beauty and the sculptor doesn't work as much. The clay starts to harden and the hands of the sculptor don't mold as well. But what is there when this hardening starts is the work of the sculptor that has spent the last 10 or 12 years on this project and loves it to no end. Pardon me again while I rip apart my own flowery metaphoricism. Kids are born open to everything around them. What they grow up to be, at least from my belief - I have no idea what popular science believes on this - that the kind of adult a child becomes is directly related to the values and beliefs imparted on them from their parents. Societal "openmindedness" is very hot, especially among our group here. While that openmindedness is great for older people that can handle it, for younger people who are more malleable, it could be a persona-defining instance. And it's these instances that a parent would like to have control over because when it comes down to the end of the day and the kid is going to bed, the parents are the ones hugging, kissing, and patting to sleep. Now, don't get me wrong reading what I'm not saying here. If a parent wants to teach their child about cussing and sex and politics when they are 5, more power to them. I don't disagree with it at all. But if a parent wants to invite the whole block over for a rousing romp in the sack in front of them to teach them about foreplay, um... no. The bottom line here to me (I like bottom lines lately for some reason - I think because my manager at work knows to ignore me until I say here's the bottom line.) that if a child idolizes Jian Ghomeshi and hears him saying "fuck" left and right and because of that starts saying "fuck" left and right, that's bad in my opinion. Gosh, you'd think it's Monday or something with all this typing by me. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 21 Sep 1999 09:30:33 PDT From: etxcsr@yahoo.com Subject: The largest music selection around. 4050 Largest music selection with all types of music http://hits.getto.net/ cquoksvucwtzqxblrvhwhqmufxpxsbhuknywdmxssobimbkvbclsogcscmikedywugrspfgfbl ------------------------------ Date: 21 Sep 1999 16:02:49 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Question about banter (was Comments on Detroit 9/17) I think it's important to always have open lines of communication with your kids on everything and anything ... I like to feel I always have with Dana and because of that she can ask me anything (and often does) ... I have to realize she hears everything even when I think she's not listening ... had a mixtape of the Rhino Poptopia CDs on awhile back and thought she was paying no attention until the middle of "Good Girls Don't" when a voice pops up from the back seat and says, "Mommy, why is she sitting on his face???" On the other hand, she is the language police (fines me a dollar for every F and S bomb) ... QL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:46:01 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Food for thought on Tapers Ellen wrote: > i'm sure one > of the taper folk here will correct me if i'm wrong, but everything i > hear about fruvous's policy on taping is kind of ambiguous. they allow > it, they don't really seem to support it, though. on the surface they > don't seem to mind it, but they do make snide remarks about it > occasionally. it'd be nice if they'd make up their minds once and for > all. Ellen, that's exactly right in my eyes. My take in things is exactly like you said there and to me, this is why if you want to get into taping Fruvous for one show or for many, get in contact with people who tape now and talk with them about it. If we are going to continue to have problems like this, maybe we need to have the band put their foot down and live with where it ends up standing. I'm gonna guess taping makes them uncomfortable in the same way a camera flash makes them uncomfortable or a red light on a video camera makes them uncomfortable. It takes them out of the context of putting on a spur of the moment show. A camera flash makes them think about what they were doing at the time to make someone want a picture because it'll be around forever. I'm sure seeing mic stands is discomforting when they can see them from the stage because they know whatever they do tonight can be heard tomorrow or the next day now. With Fruvous, it probably even gets down to individual people whom they know tape shows. > i understand that they might be unsure what effect taping will have > on their ability to sell tix, albums, etc. but surely there's someone > out there more knowledgeable than me who could set them straight. it > sure didn't hurt the dead; they were one of the top-grossing touring acts > year after year. it sure hasn't hurt phish. ditto dave matthews. If Fruvous wanted to become a jamband like that, yeah, they need to be a bit more formal about it. But for those bands, touring is their life. Fruvous is still on the fence to me. Touring is the bands life right now because it has to be. If Fruvous could be the next Grateful Dead, I'd have wonderful stories to tell my children (after teaching them to swear and steal others lunch money of course) about the early days. And then of course all the "I miss Jian" all over the place after he dies... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:22:08 GMT From: LSan497884@aol.com Subject: Re: Question about banter (was Comments on Detroit 9/17) In a message dated 9/21/99 12:34:11 AM Central Daylight Time, srm9988n@aol.comicrelief writes: > What he says among his friends, otoh, is his -- and their -- business. He > has > a strong sense of what we find acceptable, but I can't run every sphere of > his > life, and I don't think it's advisable that I try. Different communities > have > different standards, and I can accept that the standards of ten-year-old > boys > are not the ones I'd look for in my own chosen community -- but they wouldn' > t > choose me or my standards either. :) I was getting tired of this thread and fully intended (after this message) to just skip over the rest of them. However, I got sucked in by Lori's comments. The above paragraph really defines how I handled the "language problem" when my son became old enough to start using words I found offensive. I realized that I can't control how he talks to his friends away from me, but I could request that he have some respect for me in my presence (and around other people whose respect he desired to have). I told him essentially that when he was with his friends I couldn't hold him to my standards and that I understood that sometimes in order to feel comfortable with them he might want to use some of the words I find offensive. Context. I also didn't want him to feel uncomfortable with his friends in the right place and time. Now in the process of doing this, he and his friends would sometimes use words I don't particularly like within my hearing, but they weren't directed at me and I understood they were just part of the conversation. Yes, I cringe inwardly sometimes, but it's my problem, not theirs, as long as they continue to use appropriate language in other contexts. I should add here that I'm not talking about a 10-year-old. When Joe was that age some words were just forbidden until he was old enough to make the distinction between wanting to use them to be "naughty" and knowing when in might be appropriate. Use of offensive - to me - language became an issue when he was 12 or 13 if I remember. Joe's now 21 and does use some of that language around me, but I've also grown up since he was 13! While my mother couldn't bear to hear some of his language now (and he won't use it around her), she also applies different meanings to the words. It's so correct to say that much of the offensiveness of language is in the perception of the listener. The same can be said of the perception of the reader, especially when we look at e-mail in this day and age. So much of face-to-to face communication includes body language, facial expression, etc, which is absent when we read something written. If we know the person well enough, we can superimpose the tone of voice, etc, but in the case of a newsgroup like this, we usually don't have that advantage (except for some of you who know each other well). Thus, the term "flaming" has arisen to describe some communication. I'm waxing on longer than I expected, but just one more comment. One of the things that has made the changes in the use of language so interesting is the mass media, specifically movies. The example I use most often for this is "Good Will Hunting." I thought this was an excellent film, but I had to get beyond the words. My mother would have walked out (probably wouldn't have been in the theater in the first place!) but the message of the movie was so important that I wanted to recommend it to everyone. I took my 12 or13-year old daughter to it besides the fact that it was R rated (for language and some sexual references) and I don't regret it. I was able to talk with her about the language, and didn't worry about the sexual language. If she didn't ask, she either didn't get it or already knew but was willing to let it fly. (In fact, if a movie is R-rated for language, I may rent it for us to watch together. She hears the language everywhere anyway--I can't protect her from that. She's also now older.) What I'm saying is agreeing with those of you who believe that the business of language and its usage is part of the business of raising our children. When they're little we have some control, but as they grow up, we can only guide and teach. Our language today is constantly shifting, and some words that are now a common part of the vernacular were once forbidden words. The word "fuck" (which is one that makes me uncomfortable) was rarely used in my childhood community (meaning among my friends and adults within my hearing), but is now everywhere. I can foresee it going the way of "damn" and "shit" and "sucks" within the next few years, if it hasn't already. Once the word becomes so common it loses it effect, it won't be a "naughty" word anymore. I'm sure something will come along (or is coming along as we speak!) to replace it. That's all folks!! *Lois (Fogeyfru--and doesn't that name explain some of the above!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:38:01 -0500 From: moxy@passport.ca (Moxy Fruvous) Subject: *itinerary* Hello folks! It's been a couple of weeks since I've posted an updated itinerary, so here you go! Tues Sept 21 Minneapolis, MN Fine Line Thurs Sept 23 Winnipeg, MB West End Cultural Centre Fri Sept 24 Pinawa, MB Pinawa Community Centre Sat Sept 25 Saskatoon, SK Louis Pub Mon Sept 27 Regina, SK The State Wed Sept 29 Calgary, AB Liberty Lounge, Mt Royal College Fri Oct 1 Edmonton, AB Sidetrack Cafe Sat Oct 2 Edmonton, AB Sidetrack Cafe Wed Oct 6 Kelowna, BC Okanagan University College Thurs Oct 7 Vancouver, BC Richards on Richards Fri Oct 8 Victoria, BC Legends Tues Oct 12 New York, NY Late Night with Conan O'Brien - TV Mon Oct 18 Seattle, WA Tractor Tavern Tues Oct 19 Portland, OR Aladdin Theater Thurs Oct 21 Santa Cruz, CA Palookaville Fri Oct 22 Palo Alto, CA Stanford Coffeehouse, Stanford University Sat Oct 23 San Francisco, CA West Coast Live - Radio Sat Oct 23 San Francisco, CA The Great American Music Hall Tues Oct 26 Los Angeles, CA The Troubador Fri Oct 29 Boulder, CO Fox Theater Sat Oct 30 Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre Tues Nov 2 Ames, IA Maintenance Shop Wed Nov 3 St Louis, MO The Side Door Fri Nov 5 Champaign-Urbana, IL Canopy Club Sat Nov 6 Cincinnati, OH Bogart's Sun Nov 7 Charleston, WV Live From The Mountain Stage Wed Nov 17 Pittsburgh, PA Graffiti's Fri Nov 19 Philadelphia, PA Keswick Theater Sun Sept 21 Boston, MA Somerville Theater Wed Nov 24 Rochester, NY venue tba Thurs Nov 25 Montreal, QC The Cabaret Fri Nov 26 Ottawa, ON Zaphod II Sat Nov 27 Ottawa, ON Zaphod II Wed Dec 1 New York, NY Bowery Ballroom Fri Dec 3 Amherst, MA Amherst College Sat Dec 4 Albany, NY Northern Lights Fri Dec 31 Buffalo, NY The Tralf Sat Jan 1 Buffalo, NY The Tralf Let me know if you have any questions! Jude Judith Coombe Management Assistant, Moxy Fruvous 416-368-5599 moxy@passport.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:33:04 GMT From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" Subject: Re: *itinerary* >Wed Nov 24 Rochester, NY venue tba Have the southern Ontario crew mentioned enough times yet that we're very upset about this? Kingston misses the Fru! :( Sara, no longer in Kingston, but still speaking up for them ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:38:15 GMT From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" Subject: Re: Question about banter (was Comments on Detroit 9/17) >she hears everything even when I think she's not listening ... had a >mixtape of >the Rhino Poptopia CDs on awhile back and thought she was paying no >attention >until the middle of "Good Girls Don't" when a voice pops up from the back >seat >and says, "Mommy, why is she sitting on his face???" That reminds me of when I was a camp counsellor and hearing kids behind me in the bus singing "Shut up and sleep with me, come on why don't you sleep with me?", Spice Girls songs with some questionable lyrics or Oasis songs filled with drug references ("where were you when we were getting high?"). It's very surreal to listen to kids singing these songs and having no idea what they are actually singing about (or maybe they do, and I'm being naive!) Of course, I was seven and dancing to "Like a Virgin" - I had no idea what it was about, I just liked the music. Sara ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:11:35 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: *itinerary* Moxy Fruvous wrote: > Fri Nov 19 Philadelphia, PA Keswick Theater > Sun Sept 21 Boston, MA Somerville Theater eek! no more DC? (I need it for the budgie pin! :) The 9:30 Club's website still lists nothing for the 20th, but it does list shows for the 19th and 21st, so I'd assume it's not booked that night... (as much as I'd rather see them at the Birchmere or something...) - -- Lawrence Solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left blank. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:25:19 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: second Conan song as a frequent viewer of Conan (well, i will watch if i don't have to get up four hours after it ends. *g*), let me say that musical guests are usually only allowed to play one song. i know that it sucks, but it's true. unless Conan has undergone some major changes that i'm not aware of... which brings me to something that i've been meaning to say. my personal belief is that fruvous should play SNL. they'd get to do *two* songs and possibly be incorporated into a sketch, and we all know how funny they can be, so this would work out extremely well. does anyone else second my opinion? maybe we should get a petition of sorts going... hmmm.... Maggie, being happy that October first is inching its way here ever so slowly... ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #835 ********************************************