From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #823 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, September 17 1999 Volume 03 : Number 823 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: I have a college pal... [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead do] Re: For those of you in FUV listening area ... (long) [milobloom@nospam.h] Re: Earthquakes, etc. [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: Earthquakes, etc. [Carol Krupka ] Re: I have a college pal... ["Novac" ] Re: Bootlegs for download ["andi andrzejewski" ] Re: Thornhill review in Pulse! magazine [vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Earthquakes, etc. [Lawrence P Solomon ] Re: I have a college pal... [Chad Maloney ] Re: Mike's People (was Re: Gord's Gold) [Chad Maloney ] Re: home made paraphanalia? [gingee@my-deja.com] Re: Mike's People (was Re: Gord's Gold) [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] more Frvous in school ["Tim Deegan" ] thank yous and updates... [tmbgirl@juno.com] Re: home made paraphanalia? [Lawrence P Solomon ] Looks like good news ... [hakmusic@juno.com] Re: thank yous and updates... [Raenfaerie@aol.com] >>MOXY FRUVOUS at Zaphod 2, Ottawa, Canada<< [bw049@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (] Re: Review in Pulse! magazine ["Carey Farrell" ] Jian's eyes [saphiracat@birdlover.com] Re: ["Carey Farrell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Sep 1999 13:53:14 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: I have a college pal... Mattt thought deeply and said: >> "So contrary to the desparate sign, most patrons >> always "please rewind!" >> And the clerks don't mind, they're very kind, the only >> stickler has resigned" >> >I think this has something to do with clerks winding up >patrons and spinning them out the door where they >desparately stick to a sign on the road. Resigned with the >fact that they're very kind,they mind their own business. I think the stickler signed one of the patrons before he/she spun said patron out the door and onto the roadsign. Hence "has re-signed". Get enough keen intellects together and eventually It all comes clear, doesn't it? - -- Lori **************** not just fictional device ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:42:42 GMT From: milobloom@nospam.hotmail.com (Milo) Subject: Re: For those of you in FUV listening area ... (long) I have been listening to FUV for about 6 Years now. They are definetly Fruvous Friendly. They have been in the studios and they sponcer their apeariances. I have heard them on fuv every now and then. I have heard they have been playing IWHO alot. I cant get the station in at work (To many tall buildings I think) But I am sure they do. Milo Bloom On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:01:32 GMT, Raenfaerie@aol.com wrote: >I had a slight correspondence with the folks at WFUV (90.7 FM) which I'll >repost here, since it's not cruelly long. I went to their website >(http://www.wfuv.org/index.htm) and filled out a "theme suggestion form" as >"anything Moxy Früvous," made mention of IWHO single, etc. They responded: > ><< Hey there!!! Thanks for your e-mail. Moxy Fruvous is on our playlist, in >heavy >rotation, in fact!!!! Best, Jill Sternheimer >> > >to which I responded, quite snarkily indeed : > ><< Oh, that's teriffic! Thank you for your quick response. I'm still >confused as to what host/show plays Früvous the most - indeed, at all, since >I listened all day on "indie day" as well as "canada day" and heard no >Früvous. But thank you a bunch! :) -mm- >> > >They had little to say to that, except: > ><< Hey there! All of the deejays play them. I can't tell you a certain time >or deejay to listen to to hear Moxy Fruvous. Oh well! That's what you get >with a big and diverse play list!!!!!! Take care. >> > >Sure ... >Six, count 'em, six exclamation points. geez. To say the least, I shall >continue to hopefully listen. at least, until I fall into a state of >despondency (definition: utter hopelessness; a vocabulary word!) If any FUV >listeners have snagged a Früsong and can prove me wrong, I stand corrected. >-mm- ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 1999 13:40:33 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Earthquakes, etc. tamra said: >>Look at the moon that the light of the sun makes. > >Am I the only one who hears: Look at the moon that the >light of the sun *bakes*???? yes, you are. :) But there *is* a cynicism, or at least a perceptual skew, in these lyrics telling us to "look" at things that aren't really there, or aren't what they seem. You can't look at the wind; only the effects of the wind. You can't look at earthquakes, just their effects, unless you're looking at a seismology chart which isn't at all the same thing really. As for looking at the moon that the light of the sun makes, well the sunlight doesn't make the moon at all - -- the sunlight just enables us to see it. So what's the point? How our perceptions differ from the natural world, from what's objectively *real*? Maybe. I dunno. What I do know is that I'm in a very weird mood. - -- Lori, looking at the clouds. Really. Not their effects. Just the clouds. And I guess the sun "makes" them too. ********************** I'll hold the truth if you must lie I'll hold out choice 'til you know what to do ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:13:40 -0500 From: Carol Krupka Subject: Re: Earthquakes, etc. Really? I think the light of the sun "bakes" or "makes" is logical. I mean, the moon does appear to give off light because it reflects sunlight that's being shed on it. (you couldn't even SEE the moon unless sunlight BAKED it, therefore MAKING the moon, in our eyes) Personally, I prefer to hear "bakes" because it's...:)more poetical:). On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 Raenfaerie@aol.com wrote: > Actually, I'm *certain* that it's "Look that the moon and the light of the > sun, mates." More logical, yet ... this is just another "drop in the bucket" > towards alt.music.moxy.frudegreen, eh? > -mm- > finally, a grammatically correct, and appropriately placed "eh" > > > Am I the only one who hears: Look at the moon that the > > light of the sun *bakes*???? > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:38:49 -0400 From: "Novac" Subject: Re: I have a college pal... Ellen wrote in message news:7rtdoq$5u3$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > you're giving *alanis morrisette* as an example of what music should be? > ;) It was the first artist that immediately came to my mind that doesn't consistently use rhyming. Pick another--there are many out there. - --Novac...I'm not the doctor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:45:19 GMT From: "andi andrzejewski" Subject: Re: Bootlegs for download Ellen, You certainly spoke for me! thanks,andi - -- On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:01:12 Ellen wrote: >i wasn't actually referring to you, but to the guys selling the bootlegs. >for the record, shows that are taped with the permission of the band are >NOT BOOTLEGS. which is what i meant when i said we're generally not >interested in them. as in, we want nothing to do with them ( and i sure >*hope* i speak for others here when i say that). > >peace, >ellen >************************************************************** >It's not the colors that matter, but that we all fade away > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:50:05 GMT From: vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Thornhill review in Pulse! magazine cc@broadwing.nospam.com (CC) said: >It's funny. I just bought Thornhill, and I miss the "Cutesiness". I think >the album sounds "over prodduced". You can't really hear the harmonies as >well. Funny. The guys themselves have said repeatedly that the reason Don Dixon was "good for them" was that he made them be a bit less perfectionist. Just pointing that out, not wanting to start yet another debate on the topic, - -v - ----- Vika Zafrin ----- vika@fruhead.com ----- "I am writing this an hour later and there is still a small demon in my stomach scratching to get out. And it's small and green and nasty. It murdered the antacid I gave it, and laughed." -Laura Lemay, re: wasabi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:55:15 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: Earthquakes, etc. Tamra wrote: > > ShadoeMe and others have referenced: > > >Look at the moon that the light of the sun makes. > > Am I the only one who hears: Look at the moon that the > light of the sun *bakes*???? no you're not. I hear it that way more in the live version, too. But "bakes" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I think it's just that way they're saying "makes" is kind of slurred. And 'm' and 'b' are formed extremely similarly. - -- Lawrence Solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left blank. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:14:54 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: I have a college pal... Ellen wrote: > > In article <7rrttb$5cn2$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>, > "Novac" wrote: > > > The primary point of music is *definitely* not to rhyme (see Alanis M), > > you're giving *alanis morrisette* as an example of what music should be? Yeah. Isn't that ironic[1]? - Chad [1] Ellen, how could you miss that? *GRIN* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:09:47 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Mike's People (was Re: Gord's Gold) Raenfaerie@aol.com wrote: > Is it just me, or there a considerable vacuum of mikepersons is früdom? "Hi. I'm Mike Ford. I'd like to thank you all for voting in the "our favorite Fruvous" poll. I came in third. Thank you. At least I wasn't last." - Mike Ford (paraphrased from some show or another) - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:40:32 GMT From: gingee@my-deja.com Subject: Re: home made paraphanalia? shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) wrote: > i recently was approached with the idea of making fru-related iron-on > teeshirts. > genna > PS. so i think it's just gonna be a budgie dog and the band name. Hi, genna! Speaking from my personal experience, some knowledge of copyright infringement, and just the common sense of knowing that it's not right to use any images or artwork produced by the band themselves for this sort of thing - I believe it is okay to use your *own* original artwork for t-shirts or whatever that you intend for your personal use only. It would be unethical to produce such items for sale - which would, of course, compete with the band's own merchandise. If you were to use the budgie dog or lift images off cds or other sources, you would probably be violating the bands legal rights to their art. Here's my personal experience - My NJ license plate says "FRUVOUS". I made 9 t-shirts with a photo of the license on it and numbered them as limited editions are numbered (i.e., 1/9 through 9/9). Four of the shirts where worn by me and three friends at the OC, NJ, show in August, and numbers 1/9 through 4/9 I gave to each of the guys - they all seemed genuinely thrilled. And I was thrilled a couple days later when Dave came on stage in Annapolis, MD, at the Ram's Head wearing his. I still owe Tobey one (he's gonna have to wait till the Keswick show), but other than that I will not be making any more of these (despite people asking if they were for sale and where they could get one). So I suggest you let your own creativity shine through and develop something unique for yourself. And then when you are in a solvent enough position, buy yourself a "real" Moxy Fruvous t-shirt (my personal favor to wear is the "Definition T") - 'cause they're cool and a good way to support our favorite band. Cheers! gingee Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 1999 15:03:31 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Mike's People (was Re: Gord's Gold) Let me weigh in here (this was a much earlier, well, not thread, it didn't get that far, just another one of my rambling observations) ... I am a MikePerson. I find all four guys have really special qualities but after the Rams Head and two Borders in-stores I came out of the closet and proudly proclaimed myself a MikePerson. Queen Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:45:58 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: more Frvous in school resurrecting an old thread, here we go... i decided to keep track of Früvous-related stuff in my ap euro class [i will spare you all the crap i have to say about this teacher who's *never* taught an honors course before, let alone an ap course and how i'm going to have to actually read my encyclopedia of a text book just to have a glimmer of hope to get at least a 3 on the ap test in may... but like i said, i'll spare you from that. i digress...]. in our first set of notes, she said that the system of rivers in europe FOSTERs INterDEPENDENCE or something blahblahblah. i just noticed the Murray reference. *g* ah well. more Früvous... in my ap spanish class (geeze, why am i taking a bunch of hard courses my senior year? someone please remind me?) we're going to be reading and discussing Gabriel Garcia Marquez in depth. yay! posiblement vamos a leer Amor en el Tiempo de Colera (i can't think of that word off the top of my head, sorry) en español... interesante, no? okay, i'll shut up... the sooner i finish at the computer, the sooner i can take a nap... ah the joys of sickness... :) my 31 days of no-moxy-music is quickly (yeah right) coming to a close... 13 more days til i can once again indulge in my habit... :) yay! Maggie "You gotta burn to shine" -- Ben Lee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:01:37 GMT From: tmbgirl@juno.com Subject: thank yous and updates... Hey HEy kiddies! first off, I'd like to thank each and everyone of you that ever suggested the band "ash" to me in those "what else are you listening to" threads. Last night i trekked it a mile and a half in what were expected to be 50mph winds and rain just to catch Ash and one of my favorite bands, Self, in a show. Anyways, to my surprise i found out that there was a canadian band opening for them... and of course the band was totally rockin. So here i go plugging a band that i know nothing about other than the fact that i saw them live once. anyways, the guys in the band were super-duper-alice-cooper nice (and as an added bonus they all can dress really well) and hey, the lead singer has my name! :) I talked to them for a bit and found out that they're about to be heading out on tour with Sloan so ya know --- if any of those shows ever come out your way --- definately check it out! O Other than that, I will not be at the Colorado Frushows in october. :( Unfortunately, I just don't have the money to be flying back home muchless the time off of work and school. My posse however, will most definately be there... full of denver pride --- so feel free to go up and say hola to 'em. I will however, definately be at the Bowery Ballroom show on December 1st. I know it's way in advance but if any of you are planning on meeting up before the show (or if you want to) get in touch! :P take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:57:03 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: home made paraphanalia? ShadoeMe wrote: > i recently was approached with the idea of making fru-related iron-on > teeshirts. i have a bunch of old shirts that i dont relally wear anymore, and > i dont have any fru-wear (limited finance of my own and a mother who thinks > that sporting a band's name puts you into the "fanatic" catagorie, and doesnt > like the thought of me being a fanatic...even though i am). a friend of mine > decided she was going to make us all fru-shirts. and i thought that that was a > splendid idea. but i want to know what the band thinks about this. i'm *not* > planning on selling them or any such thing. just wearing them (and maybe > lending them to newbie fru-friends). is there any policy against this? as far as I know, there are certain things that are ok and certain others that are very much not ok. Fan shirts are fine, (like if we all made newsgroup shirts, or something) but you might want to be a little careful making something that might actually give the impression of representing the band itself, rather than the fans of the band. There was an incident a few years (ok, many years) ago involving a fan-produced TMBG shirt which contained a cartoon version of their song "Spider" and was really very creative. They were selling them at cost, and distributed flyers at shows about how to get them. Jamie Kitman (their manager at the time) wrote to the people saying that John and John thought the idea was cool, but that if they weren't getting royalties, the shirts couldn't be printed. In other words, if you *just* wear them, but don't make wide distributions of them (even if you sold them purely at cost) you should be ok. To put it another way, one or two isolated shirts are ok, but if the same design starts showing up in a lot of places, it's going to look like a copyright infringement or *something*. Even if it's not. - -- Lawrence Solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left blank. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:31:46 GMT From: hakmusic@juno.com Subject: Looks like good news ... This was posted by Anne Saunders to the Dar Williams list. there seems to be a little something new in there that wasn't in previous decriptions of the CD. It could be something we would all like a lot. : ) Harry ********* OTHER BIG NEWS - FRFF's first compilation CD is due for release October 19 on the Signature Sounds label. SS hopes to have it for sale in 2 weeks at the Boston Folk Festival. You can preorder a copy from them by calling 800 694-5354 immediately. Info and web ordering will be avialable shortly at www.Signature-Sounds.com. The CD includes material recorded at the 95, 96, 97 and 99 fests. The CD features 13 artists; The Nields, Patty Larkin, Vance Gilbert, Moxy Fruvous, Dar Williams, The Kennedys, Viva Quetzal, Wild Asparagus, Richard Shindell, June Rich featuring Vanida Gail, Peter Mulvey, Kim & Reggis Harris with Magpie and of course, Greg Brown. ********** Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:04:00 GMT From: Raenfaerie@aol.com Subject: Re: thank yous and updates... Agreet, it's a *little* early but ... are there any plans? - -mm- "something i never would have known" > I will however, definately be at the Bowery Ballroom show on December > 1st. I know it's way in advance but if any of you are planning on > meeting up before the show (or if you want to) get in touch! :P ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 1999 17:24:07 GMT From: bw049@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eugene Haslam) Subject: >>MOXY FRUVOUS at Zaphod 2, Ottawa, Canada<< ****************************************************************************** Eugene's Party Central presents Canada's best-loved, folk, jazz, acappella, comedic, satirical rockers ****************** * MOXY FRUVOUS * ****************** + TORY CASSIS Friday AND Saturday, November 26 AND 27/ 99 (Doors 8pm) Age 19+. Proper Government photo i.d. required. ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX 2 (http://www.zaphodbeeblebrox.com) 363 Bank Street, Ottawa, Canada. Advance tickets $12: from Ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.ca) (613) 755-1111 or, without surcharges, from CENTRAL GROOVE, 369 Bank Street. (http://www.fruvous.com) First spotted by a CBC radio executive while busking in Toronto, MOXY FRUVOUS has gone on to release 6 full-length albums, the most recent being "Thornhill". The four lads descended on THE TRAGICALLY HIP's Bathhouse Studio near Kingston, Ontario, and over four weeks experienced a collective flashback that resulted in an album with all the hallmarks of their formative years, with a few modern flourishes thrown in. Produced by Don Dixon (R.E.M., MATTHEW SWEET, THE SMITHEREENS), the challenge as he saw it was to make them sound not like four solo artists, but like a band with four lead vocalists. The new album is released in Canada on True North/ Universal and in the U.S. on Razor & Tie/ BMG. The lads appeared recently on "Open Mike" with MIKE BULLARD and are scheduled to appear on THE CONAN O'BRIEN SHOW on Tuesday, October 12. They played THE GUINNESS FLEADH this summer, which took them to Boston, New York, Chicago and San Francisco, playing with the likes of VAN MORRISON and ELVIS COSTELLO. This current tour sees them playing the length and breadth of the U.S.A. and they return to Canada to play two nights at Zaphod 2. Many of their American fans have already snapped up tickets for this show as it falls on their Thanksgiving weekend. So expect to see "fruheads" from all over the U.S. and Canada at this special two-night engagement. Come for the music, stay for the fun! ****************************************************************************** - -- ****************************************************************************** CHECK OUT OUR WEB SITE: http://www.zaphodbeeblebrox.com ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX 1, 27 York Street, Ottawa, CANADA. K1N 5S7 (613)562-1010 ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX 2, 363 Bank Street, Ottawa, CANADA. K2P 1Y2 (613)594-3355 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:07:08 GMT From: "Carey Farrell" Subject: Re: Review in Pulse! magazine >>"Never put salt in your eyes"--Kevin, realizing this the hard way >>(Kids >>in the Hall) > > >"....A-A-A-A-Always put salt in your eyes..." > >"AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!" > Argh,just rub it in my face (or eyes,as the case may be) that I never get to see KitH anymore. Or Newsradio. I want my daily triple dose of Dave Foley! Wishing for a TV, or at least a vacation, Carey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:48:29 GMT From: saphiracat@birdlover.com Subject: Jian's eyes If anyone has a good pic of Jian's eyes, could you please e-mail me (SaphiraCat@hotmail.com)? I have good pics of Mike's, Dave's, and Murray's eyes, but I can't seem to find any of Jian's. I looked thorugh FDC, and found some possibilities, but if anyone can help, I'd be most appreciative. It's for a graphic I'm making. Thanks! - -Saph "Sometimes you're the windsheild, sometimes you're the bug." -Unknown "Why do we have to think? why can't we just sit here and go BLBLBLBLBLB wth our lips for a bit?" -Arthur Dent "There is no great genius without a mixture of madness." -Aristotle - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:02:58 GMT From: "Carey Farrell" Subject: Re: >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:18:53 -0400 >From: dopeytoo >Subject: Re: Review in Pulse! magazine > >NovFraggle@aol.com wrote: > > > > > "Never put salt in your eyes"--Kevin, realizing this the hard way (Kids >in > > the Hall) > > >"....A-A-A-A-Always put salt in your eyes..." > >"AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!" > >------------------------------ > >Date: 16 Sep 1999 21:38:02 GMT >From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) >Subject: home made paraphanalia? > >i recently was approached with the idea of making fru-related iron-on >teeshirts. i have a bunch of old shirts that i dont relally wear anymore, >and >i dont have any fru-wear (limited finance of my own and a mother who thinks >that sporting a band's name puts you into the "fanatic" catagorie, and >doesnt >like the thought of me being a fanatic...even though i am). a friend of >mine >decided she was going to make us all fru-shirts. and i thought that that >was a >splendid idea. but i want to know what the band thinks about this. i'm >*not* >planning on selling them or any such thing. just wearing them (and maybe >lending them to newbie fru-friends). is there any policy against this? >thanks >solem >genna >PS. we almost decided to make 4 tee-shirts (one for each of my fruhead >friends >who came w/ me to SSS) one with each of the lads on it. but we couldnt >agree >who would get whom. and the idea kinda freaked one of the girls ("could >you >imagine getting up on stage and seeing someone wearing your face???"). so >i >think it's just gonna be a budgie dog and the band name. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:08:52 GMT >From: SugarFly26@aol.com >Subject: Re: I have a college pal... > >somebody wrote: > ><< Novac wrote: > > > The quote, again: > > "So contrary to the desparate sign, most patrons always "please >rewind!" > > And the clerks don't mind, they're very kind, the only stickler has > > resigned" > > > > It could mean: So contrary to the desparate sign [of "be kind, >rewind"], > > most patrons always [recieve the admonishing message of] 'please >rewind!'" > > This interpretation would also straighten up confusion with the >following > > line, which notes that the clerks don't mind the patron's failing at > > rewinding. Even if the sign DID say "Don't rewind", the following line >would > > then be saying that the clerks, if UNkind, would mind that the patrons >broke > > the 'law' and rewound. > > Thus, it's saying that: Most patrons always fail to rewind (who wants >to?) > > contrary to that sign, and the clerks (or sign) screams at them "please > > rewind!", but they still don't charge the fee because they're kind. > > I'm sure I've confused everyone who isn't following this thread. >Mission > > accomplished. > > --Novac >> > > >Wow, I had to read that like 8 times very slowly before I (think) I got it. >Except, I still don't get it cuz I still keep thinking of it like so, >contrary to the desparate sign, most patrons always 'please rewind'. as in >they do rewind. Ah, nevermind. I probably will never get it, if there's >really anything to get. :) > >- ----------------> Ln > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:31:58 GMT >From: "Jennifer Schlosser" >Subject: Re: Douglas Adams takes over the world! > >someone said: > >Zaphod Beeblebrox 2 > >and then katy said: > > does that mean there's *another* bar named zaphod beeblebrox? > >There are two. Zaphod Beeblebrox and Zaphod Beeblebrox 2. Both in Ottawa. >Yay for Ottawa. :) > >Jennifer. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:29:55 GMT >From: SugarFly26@aol.com >Subject: Re: Earthquakes, etc. > >Ellen wrote: > ><< i hear no hate > in any of the lyrics-- no emotion at all, really. i guess Indifference... > >> > >Yes, and I'm not trying to push my point on anyone, but in my experience >indifference and no emotion can be more effective and drive someone crazier >than yelling or being really angry sometimes. Like have you ever heard >someone say or thought yourself "It would have been a little easier to take >if he hadn't said it so calmly, if he'd yelled..." I know I have. Eh. But >not >always. > >- -------------> Ln > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:34:41 GMT >From: SugarFly26@aol.com >Subject: Re: I have a college pal... > >Lizzie insightfully wrote: > ><< Possibly what it's saying is "most patrons rewind, but the clerks don't > mind [if the patrons rewind or not, at least now that] the only stickler > has resigned"? Does that make sense? > > love > Lizzie, home from school because of the hurricane (and I live in > Philly!) >> > > >Yes it does make sense. I'm gonna think that unless I hear something else I >think works. They might cancel school in little ole Ware Mass for the >hurricane and heavy winds and rain we're supposed to get through the >weekend...that would mean no school for me tomorrow. Hope... :) > > >- --------> Ln > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:19:30 GMT >From: SugarFly26@aol.com >Subject: Re: I have a college pal... > >Lori said: > ><< is when Jian's college pal in the final line > isn't Roger but Raja. >> > >Oh. I've always been interpreting the song as in the college pal and Roger >are completely different people, that the college pal is sending this >person >to see Roger. For example if your friend Sue says "Just ask for Tommy" >she's >not talking about herself. Or the way people sometimes reccomend their >dentist or something, "Go see Mr. X, he's a great dentist, tell him I sent >you." I never really thought of it as Roger saying to go see him (Roger) >when he was working someday or something. Wow...interesting the things you >can get thinking about here. > > >- ----------------> Ln > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:19:51 -0500 >From: Chad Maloney >Subject: Re: OT: tory cassis in general > >Josh Drury wrote: > > > > So, I guess at least some of you have heard him play, especially in the > > Toronto area. Can anyone tell me what we can expect when he opens for >the > > Fru in western Canada? > >Tory is very good. Tory with his band is even better! I don't know >which you'll see, but either is worth it. He's a very competent >songwriter and has an incredible voice. The times I've seen him >live it's been him and his guitar and he's captivated the room. He >did a couple Tom Waits covers and many tunes from his band done up >for solo. > >His first album was released in August on True North and it's >very very good, especially the strong start it has. I highly >recommend it. > > - Chad > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:40:03 GMT >From: SugarFly26@aol.com >Subject: YEAH to Re: Earthquakes, etc. > >josh wrote: > ><< Yes and No. The beauty of it is that it's pure evil! It's like it's >saying > "I don't care about you, in your face", without even caring enough to get >in > your face! I mean, if you write someone a hate letter, at least you > acknowledge feelings for them. In this song, it's sort of a "I CAN live > with or without you", so the ex is made to feel inconsequential, their > existence making no difference at all. Can your standard hate letter be >so > demeaning? Nuh-uh. > > Evil! > > Josh Drury > Winnipeg >> > > >Exactly how I wanted to say it, plus some. :) > >- ------------> Ln > >------------------------------ > >Date: 16 Sep 1999 22:50:52 GMT >From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) >Subject: Re: Chameleon Club > > >Last night, I saw Great Big Sea in Lancaster, PA at a place called the > >Chameleon Club. It is a really cool club. Decorated like Lee's Palace >but > >with a stars and motion theme instead of the goth style of Lee. It has a > >balcony, and a cool 2nd floor bar called Milliways. > >OOOOHH, a Hitchhikers Guide reference. For those of you who don't get it, >Milliways is the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. That settles it, >Moxy >has to play there! >Feanole aka DrWhoFru > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:19:41 -0400 >From: "Novac" >Subject: Re: I have a college pal... > > >rythym (i *know* how to > > spell "rythym and that looks wrong somehow. oh well, it's early). > > >Well, now it's 7PM, and it's "rhythm" :) >- --Novac > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:22:42 -0400 >From: "Novac" >Subject: Re: I have a college pal... > > > >... But that just doesn't fit with the rest... > > > > it rhymes, people!!!! :) > >The primary point of music is *definitely* not to rhyme (see Alanis M), but >to communicate some sort of idea. Oh, and a catchy rhythm helps. And >rhyming. >- --Novac > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:26:58 -0400 >From: "Novac" >Subject: Re: I have a college pal... > > > >Possibly what it's saying is "most patrons rewind, but the clerks don't > > >mind [if the patrons rewind or not, at least now that] the only >stickler > > >has resigned"? Does that make sense? > > > > You've perfectly communicated the sense of how I interpret those lines. >I'm > > right there with ya. You've also explained it more clearly than I >would've. > >I think everyone tends to agree with that, but this quote above fails to >include the confusing addition of "Contrary to the desperate sign". It also >omits "always" and "And", and adds "but". :P > >- --Novac > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:34:32 -0400 >From: "Novac" >Subject: Re: I have a college pal... > > > Wow, I had to read that like 8 times very slowly before I (think) I got >it. > > Except, I still don't get it cuz I still keep thinking of it like so, > > contrary to the desparate sign, most patrons always 'please rewind'. as >in > > they do rewind. Ah, nevermind. I probably will never get it, if there's > > really anything to get. :) > >Most people who know me realize that this is my mission. >Also, do you realize that we've got enough posts to start >alt.music.moxy-fruvous.pleaserewind ? I'm sure some of the NG readers WISH >this thread had its own separate NG :) > >- --Novac > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:32:58 -0400 >From: "Novac" >Subject: Re: I have a college pal... > > > Oh. I've always been interpreting the song as in the college pal and >Roger > > are completely different people, that the college pal is sending this >person > > to see Roger. > >This can really go either way: > >(1) Roger is a friend of Mr. X. Mr X also has another college friend--Jian. >Mr X informs Jian about the special Bargainville deal. Jian tells us that >he >has a college friend who says we can pay one price for two--just ask for >Roger at VB. > >(2) Roger, a college friend of Jian's, works at Video Bargainville. Roger >has told Jian about the deal. Jian tells us that he has a college friend >who >says we can pay one price for two--just ask for Roger at VB. > >Thus [putting on my logic proffesor voice] the line neither necessitates >nor >negates the notion that Roger works at Video Bargainville. > >- --Novac > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:31:27 GMT >From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" >Subject: Re: For the Mike Bullard show attendees > >Irene desperately apologized: > > >My God, I’ve turned into one of them, one of those people who can > >blather on sans probleme in a chat room, but when placed in a crowd of > >strangers can hardly say a word. Shit. My behaviour was utterly shameful > >this evening, and I am heartily embarrassed by it. I want to apologize > >to anyone I hung around with at the Mike Bullard show for being so rude. > >Next time I’ll come armed with my cure for cowardice: caffeine! Then > >you’ll wish I was a mute ;) > >No worries Irene, I'm sure you've noticed that I'm shy as anything too, so >I >can understand the difficulties (of course, I too can blather on and on >when >I'm typing...evil computers that bring out the extravert in us introverts). >It usually takes me a while to warm up to people (as Fiona pointed out >after >I cracked an evil comment: "either you're getting more comfortable around >us >or we're starting to corrupt you" - it's definately the former!). > >That being said, Mike Bullard was awesome...well, actually Mike Bullard is >annoying and obnoxious (IMHO - I'm sure someone out there likes him since >his show is on so often!). But the Fruv being on it was cool and it was >fun >to go to a taping. And I think Fruvous appreciated all the support. >Bullard and the producers said that we had been the best audience that week >(I don't know if they were truthful or just buttering us up) and wanted to >know what they had done differently to make us so enthusiastic. D'uh!!! >It >was an audience of Fruheads!!!!!! > >Oh and for those who didn't see it: they sang Splatter Splatter (and I >attempted to dance in my seat remembering not to sing out loud!!). And >Jian >and Murray were *very* briefly interviewed. > >It was great to get to know some of the fruheads a bit better - Chrissy, it >was great to meet you (I can't believe you came from Buffalo!), hKath & >MC...thanks for inviting me along, sorry I couldn't stay later, >Fiona...thanks for getting us the tickets, and everyone else, it was a >blast, hope to see you again soon! :) > >Sara > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >------------------------------ > >End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #820 >******************************************** > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #823 ********************************************