From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #768 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, September 1 1999 Volume 03 : Number 768 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hitchikers at the Folk Fest [ndk107@psu.edu (Nate Kushner)] Re: OT: Katchoo, was Jesus, was Thornhill [murmbeetle@my-deja.com] Re: OT: Katchoo, was Jesus, was Thornhill [murmbeetle@my-deja.com] Re: Independence Day Question [murmbeetle@my-deja.com] Re: Sheet Music ["Kate Leahy" ] Re: Guess who's now a Philly and DC area Fruhead? ["Jerry Levine/ Madd Ha] Re: OT: Plastique Bertam (actually Plastic Bertrand) [Tim Cain ] Re: Question: [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: OT: Plastique Bertam (actually Plastic Bertrand) [bbwminors@aol.com (] Re: Independence Day Question [trace@fruhead.com (Trace)] Re: Delaware is nice, really! [trace@fruhead.com (Trace)] No Keswick for me. :( [Melanie Natoli ] NOW Magazine this week [Fiona ] Re: KESWICK -- call the box office not Ticketmaster! [chad schrock ] Re: Another Thornhill Review ["Gramcracker" ] Beachfest, Sept. 6 ["Gramcracker" ] Re: Question: [chad schrock ] weirdness ["Tim Deegan" ] Re: Mostly OT:Mike Wood; FR*SL*T extrodinaire [CheesemonkeyGem ] Fruvous overdose ["Tim Deegan" ] Re: KESWICK -- call the box office not Ticketmaster! [Lawrence P Solomon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:17:33 GMT From: ndk107@psu.edu (Nate Kushner) Subject: Re: Hitchikers at the Folk Fest I realize I'm only a lurker, but boy them fruvouses is a bunch of swell guys. They wrote and drew budgie dogs all over my hat. And so did Chris Smither, my very favorite blues singer. It's my 1999 Philly Folk Festival Chris Smither Moxy Fruvous hat. I hadn't seen them since that free show in ottawa last may, and it was the first time I saw them do Minnie the Moocher. Good stuff. Ok, that's all I have to say. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:19:41 GMT From: murmbeetle@my-deja.com Subject: Re: OT: Katchoo, was Jesus, was Thornhill In article , happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) wrote: > Shall we now begin the competition of who's gotten their letters and > photos published in SiP? I for one am envious, but then I've never > actually tried writing to Terry, *yet*. Nice job on the hat, BTW. > Congrats. zowie. Say something mean & people start NOTICING YOUR LETTERS IN SiP!!! yeah I was totally zonked after seeing that he printed that. (BTW: it was the first letter I ever sent him either. Y'oughta try it (it is unbelievable to me still, tho, that he gets so little mail as to print that)) Up the SiP people, BTW! I wouldn't be surprised if there were more on this ng..... Murm Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:19:45 GMT From: murmbeetle@my-deja.com Subject: Re: OT: Katchoo, was Jesus, was Thornhill In article , happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) wrote: > Shall we now begin the competition of who's gotten their letters and > photos published in SiP? I for one am envious, but then I've never > actually tried writing to Terry, *yet*. Nice job on the hat, BTW. > Congrats. zowie. Say something mean & people start NOTICING YOUR LETTERS IN SiP!!! yeah I was totally zonked after seeing that he printed that. (BTW: it was the first letter I ever sent him either. Y'oughta try it (it is unbelievable to me still, tho, that he gets so little mail as to print that)) Up the SiP people, BTW! I wouldn't be surprised if there were more on this ng..... Murm Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:07:55 GMT From: murmbeetle@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Independence Day Question In article <7qh7ff$1re$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Groovy Spice wrote: > this line is one of the reasons i love this song so much. it's only > somewhat relevant to the meaning of the song, but how many times as a kid > did i stand there with a balloon string tied around my wrist, so that it > wouldn't fly away when i inevitably forgot to hold onto it? and how many > times did i lift my arm in the air and dream that i was rising into the > air with the balloon? > > the line "and the children let go their balloons and flew away," is just > so perfect. *shiver* In my head it sort of goes with the whole theme of relationships after they're broken off; the children let go their magical floaty things and find out they(the balloons)'ve actually been holding them down. Doesn't go exactly with the relationship described in the song, but, to me it fits.(along with being a powerful mental image, of course.) Murm "Life sucks. One suck to each leg."--Shaul Friedman Ben-Shalom Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:45:46 -0400 From: "Kate Leahy" Subject: Re: Sheet Music Okay, well fine Chad. Ruin my hopes :P. I'm not really in it for the musical notation . . . more for the artwork that I'm sure will be there :). ~~Kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@fruhead.com *********************************** "It's a long long road It's a big big world We are wise wise women We are giggling girls . . . " - --Ani DiFranco *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:51:04 -0500 From: "Jerry Levine/ Madd Hatter" Subject: Re: Guess who's now a Philly and DC area Fruhead? No, it's just becasue Delaware is useless as a state, besides as a separator between NJ and Maryland. ;-) - -- - ---------------------------------------------------- Jerry S. Levine In a mad world only the mad are sane. - Akira Kurosawa maddhatter@nospam.earthling.net jlevine.damnthespam@wam.umd.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:00:37 GMT From: Tim Cain Subject: Re: OT: Plastique Bertam (actually Plastic Bertrand) From allmusic.com, a site I encourage everyone to bookmark: >> Plastic Bertrand was the alias of New Wave prankster Roger Jouret, a native of Belgium who appropriated the sound and style of the New Wave movement in order to give it a gently satirical poke in the ribs, while scoring several European hits in the process. Jouret began his musical career as a drummer for the Belgian punk trio Hubble Bubble, which recorded one unsuccessful album. When Jouret met producer/songwriter Lou Deprijck, the two struck up a recording partnership; Jouret emphasized his pretty-boy looks and punkish fashion sense. Their first effort, "Ca Plane Pour Moi" ("This Life's For Me"), is widely regarded as a New Wave classic for its gleefully deranged stupidity, with Jouret singing French nonsense lyrics in a cartoonish voice over basic three-chord rock & roll complete with saxophones and a falsetto vocal hook straight out of the Beach Boys or Four Seasons. The song was a smash in Europe and became a cult favorite in America; Plastic Bertrand continued to release records in Europe, including a U.K. hit remake of the Small Faces' "Sha-La-La-La-Lee." Bertrand experimented with seemingly every new wave fashion, including spacy electronics, disco, bubblegum pop, reggae, and spoken-word raps, all with the same naggingly entertaining stupidity. He remained popular on the European continent and in Canada for several years, where audiences were more attuned to his largely French lyrics, but the novelty eventually wore off, and nothing was heard from Bertrand after 1982. Plastic Bertrand released several albums, all of which are difficult to find; a greatest-hits collection is also floating around. -- Steve Huey, All-Music Guide<< Now, when Gruppo Sportivo comes up on this group, I'll REALLY be impressed. - --tc (unofficial ammf threadkiller, who still is known to drive Mrs. Cain nuts with a late-night spinning of "Cai Plane Pour Moi.") === "It's just goes to show you, it takes all kinds, except for 'little people' and radiologists." -- Jim Thielman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:43:21 -0400 From: Frances Meale Subject: Re: random French music question Plastique was/is a French Canadian singer (blonde hair, blue eyes) and his most popular hit was "Stop ou encore" (Quebecois rap, the early years) and a new wavey-type song entitled "La Planete". Very kooky. Hmm, I think he was/is Canadian... I remember hearing his music when growing up in Montreal. Let me know if you need the lyrics to "Stop"; unfortunately, it cannot be erased from memory. - -Frances Acaia78 wrote: > Just wondering if anyone here has ever heard of a group possibly called > Plastique Bertram? They're a French band who sing (sang?) goofy '50s-60s > pop-type songs, and my French teacher in HS used to play them for us sometimes. > That's actually all I know about them, so I was wondering if any of you knew > more. > > Carey, with a big ugly bruise after the Jian lookalike fiasco last night ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 23:32:20 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Question: ~jen said: >Well, there's always the option of *not* introducing yourself by your >screen name ;-) > >~jen (just one of a million "Jen"s ;-) aha. but we know who you are .... :P (and I'll bet so does the band. Even if you''ve never talked to them. They see all, know all ... the amazing Frulads!) Myself, I don't understand the lure of anonymity for posting purposes. I mean, unless you're a troll, what's the point of saying something if you're not willing to attribute it to yourself? But then again, I've never posted to a truly psychotic newsgroup ... - -- Lori ********************* cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. ~~ Ambrose Bierce ------------------------------ Date: 01 Sep 1999 00:25:39 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: OT: Plastique Bertam (actually Plastic Bertrand) I still want to know what "the king of the divan" is. I'm such a nap-lover I'm convinced I'm Queen of the Divan. QL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:47:19 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: Independence Day Question On 31 Aug 1999 17:14:31 GMT, srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) wrote: >Does this sound like a Rousseau painting to anyone else? Wow. Vivid, surreal, >static, timeless -- and achingly evocative of almost-comprehensible spiritual >upheaval. I was actually thinking the imagery in ID was more Dali-esque, with odd things standing out in relief, and doing visually strange things that they shouldn't be doing. The images seem so lurid to me, especially the hot dog stand.... - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com AMM-F: You must be this insane to ride ----- - -Veronica J Gruneberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:53:59 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: Delaware is nice, really! On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:51:04 -0500, "Jerry Levine/ Madd Hatter" wrote: >No, it's just becasue Delaware is useless as a state, besides as a separator >between NJ and Maryland. ;-) Whoa! I will gladly take on those evil, snarky Baltimorians.. but I'm staying out of any Delaware arguments. Besides, they don't sales tax you to death in the First State. We're keeping it! - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com AMM-F: You must be this insane to ride ----- - -Veronica J Gruneberg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 00:12:46 GMT From: Melanie Natoli Subject: No Keswick for me. :( Greetings fellow fruheads. I was so excited about going to the concert at keswick, I called and bought my tickets today, only to find out I can't make it. I had band rehersal tonight, and it just happens that our big concert for the semester is that friday night. :( This now means I have 3 tickets to get rid off. I'm not sure exactly where they are, but I know they are around the 12th row. The total price was $79.50. If anyone is interested in the tickets please email me. I really need to get rid of them. :( I'll mail them out to you as soon as I get them. Thanks. --Melanie === ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is sweet when.... buying fish food is fun. MeLaNiE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:32:44 -0400 From: Fiona Subject: NOW Magazine this week It's been brought to my attention that this article isn't on now.com, so I exercised my typing muscles to bring it to you all. U.S. fans lift Moxy Früvous by Kim Hughes [Caption underneath the Thornhill promo pic: Moxy Früvous's David Matheson (left), Jian Ghomeshi, Murray Foster and Mike Ford have serious misgivings about having their new record sold at Wal-Mart.] Like most groups that've been kicking around for the better part of a decade, Toronto agit-prop quartet Moxy Früvous have endured moments of dizzying popularity and crushing indifference, sometimes at once. They've handled both with grace, retrenching when the backlash began, then tirelessly touring America and building a loyal fan base one folk festival at a time. Sellout gigs in Milwaukee and Cleveland may not boost their cred among the Queen Street elite, but here's the interesting bit, Moxy Früvous -- Jian Ghomeshi, Murray Foster, Mike Ford and David Matheson -- may yet have the last laugh. Like they say, hang around long enough, and sooner or later you're bound to be in style. "We've had a harder time in our own hometown than anywhere else in the world, and that's a fact," singer and multi-instrumentalist Ghomeshi offers over morning coffee prior to the release of his band's latest CD, Thornhill, out now. "But I feel like we're coming full circle. All we've ever wanted for people to judge us objectively. You don't *have* to like us. Just listen to the record. "With critics we seem to be the damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't band. When we're doing the lighter, satirical stuff, the reaction is always 'Oh, they're a novelty.' When we do heavier stuff, when the satire is a little deeper, the reaction is 'What happened? They used to be funny.' Music is so subjective and 20 different people will say 19 different things." While it's true that their star at home hasn't exactly risen since their early-90's peak, the band is a big fucking deal to a vastly networked, proactive group of fans throughout the U.S. These are fans who think nothing of driving to Toronto from Vermont or New Hampshire to attend the annual Moxy Früvous convention (yes, really), where said "Früheads" pay for the privilege of sitting cross-legged on the floor and firing complex questions at the guy who designed one album cover and the engineer who recorded another. Sounds weird. And it kinda is, judging by the glassy-eyed enthusiasm of the Früheads who converged on a downtown hotel last February for the latest Deadhead-like exchange. But don't take our word for it -- go to www.früvous.com (sic) and peruse the enormous Web site where one can collect more information about the group than anyone probably needs. "Früheadism is... very... bizarre," Ghomeshi says. "I've called them hippies and geeks before, but tongue-in-cheek. There are smart people, too. But the things is, we've built this fan base that is so about Moxy Früvous as an eclectic project that continues to change and evolve rather than being about one song or one video. In America, we're known as this really grassroots, working band that does really alternative stuff. And I think we've built it up in such a way that we'll always have a career." So where does all this bring us in 99? To Thornhill, produced by Don Dixon (Smithereens, among others) and stacked with the things that Früheads everywhere debate ad nauseum -- dark humour, satire, strong harmonies, folksy songs shot through with melodic pop. "Dixon mitigated our need for perfectionism," Ghomeshi says. "He helped us be sloppier. And it worked" They're intensely proud of Thornhill, and want people to hear it. But there's controversy brewing already. Wal-Mart has called. On the one hand, distribution through the American chain could boot Früvous sales, which would ultimately afford them more creative options. On the other, Wal-Mart is a corporate giant that swallows whole the business districts of small towns. And it only stocks titles it finds acceptable. The conundrum is not lost on the band. "We live in an era when the best young golfer in the world is only seen under a cap with a Nike swoosh on it," Ghomeshi says. "We have Lenny Kravitz brought to you by Tommy Hilfiger. That shocks me." "At the same time, we've made decisions of conscience in our career that no one will ever know about, like refusing a full-page ad for a vodka company in your magazine." So Wal-Mart *is* stocking Thornhill? "Yes," Ghomeshi sighs. "I would rather people buy us at a mom-and-pop shop. But think of it this way. If Wal-Mart started stocking Noam Chomsky, which they won't, then maybe people who shop there would read him. "One way you can undo the homogenization of culture is to buy a Früvous record at a Wal-Mart instead of Celine Dion. It's a tenuous argument," he laughs, "but it is one." - -- "i wake up with robbie, and get dressed with the guys.. if you sig that, you're dead :P" - Drea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:46:13 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: KESWICK -- call the box office not Ticketmaster! Lawrence P Solomon wrote: > Hmmm, there are seats... which means there is most likely quiet... > which means a mostly appreciative audience... which means WOOD! :) Lawrence, Lawrence, Lawrence.... They only do incredible shows like that in Annapolis. You were there. You know that. :) > Howabout Poor Mary Lane, Bed and Breakfast, and Sad Today > this time? :) Now, *that* would be a really cool thing. - -- chad at radix dot net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:40:04 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: OT: CD Holders Groovy Spice wrote: > jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) wrote: > > > I bought one of those Case Logic sleeve holder things today, > > but am hesitant to use it, since one friend has told me that > > it scratched her CDs up. > i've had that problem, too. [1] i don't trust the kind of CD case > with sleeves anymore. you can get one that has a plastic mount > for each CD, just like what's in the CD's jewel case. these are > much better, IMO. You two both know that the shiny side goes down, right? :) > [1] of course, some of the CDs that have developed "scratches" > only skip on my car CD player, so maybe it's just hypersensitive. > entirely possible, but either way i have to listen to skips. I got a CD in Germany that was like that. On my home CD player one of the tracks would skip all over the place. On my discman, sometimes it would skip, sometimes it wouldn't. In the CDROM drive in my computer at work it played perfectly. - -- chad at radix dot net I'm gonna get it for this one..... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:45:46 -0400 From: "Gramcracker" Subject: Re: Another Thornhill Review melanie sez: > Your general overview sums up Thornhill for me as well. And I see >this in Earthquakes, too. I keep thinking of the words, "Don't worry >about what you're to eat, or what you are to wear. Consider the lilies of >the field." This first verse is so irreverently reverent--it's great! And I >love a song that reverent and base at the same time. And to top it off, I >can't sit still when I listen to it. At the moment, it's my favorite track from >Thornhill. Earthquakes is definately my new favorite song - It just totally sums up how i feel about life most of the time. It's got some absolutely great lines (the future looks like distant thunder...) and i just can't hear it enough. It's such a good song for me, too. Look at these tiny things bothering me. smoochies, meghan (who hasn't stopped listening to earthquakes and independence (or is it independance?) day since she got Thornhill) - ---- The future looks like distant thunder 'cause I'm never sure that I'll get paid. And I'm pissed that I'm not gettin' younger, gettin' pretty, gettin' love, gettin' laid. - ----- Meghan Gramcracker is: ICQ# 17903747 http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/4448 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:07:57 -0400 From: "Gramcracker" Subject: Beachfest, Sept. 6 is there an official word on what time fruvous is playing at beachfest? I have to make travel plans :) smoochies, meghan - ---- ICQ# 17903747 http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/4448 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:16:19 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: Question: Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > Josh forgot: > > 4) chad schrock has the proof scrawled on his Thornhill CD. :) > Jian knows who posts, and what they post about. Oh yeah. There is that too..... :P To be known not as short-but-maybe-medium-chad, but by having-the- proof-scrawled-on-my-Thornhill-CD-chad. I don't know if I like that. And Trace started it. - -- chad at radix dot net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:18:21 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: weirdness i've noticed that i haven't been getting some messages lately... i know this b/c i partially have no idea where some of the subject lines are coming from, and also b/c the posts i *remember* typing up aren't appearing. hmm... i think the computer faeries don't like me. : P doesn't that just suck. *g* Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 03:34:10 GMT From: CheesemonkeyGem Subject: Re: Mostly OT:Mike Wood; FR*SL*T extrodinaire Vika said: >Mike Wood is a VERY nice >human being, and cute, too. ;) He's just easy to >pick on. melanie questioned: >Hm, OK. I guess I just haven't been around Frudom >long enough. So is >the very cute Mike Wood interested in seducing any >female Fruheads over >the age of 35? Hmmm? my guess would be most likely! run, dont walk from this fruslut! - -jen === __________________________________________________________ If at first you don't succeed... skydiving is not for you. __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:03:19 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > Trace wailed: > >So you don't like Little Debbie brownies.... > I must admit, the brownies are good. Highly sweet, but good. Yeah, but they are boy-brownies. Yick. > Those other ... things ... however ... *Zebra Cakes* > and the swiss-rolly things -- eeeeew! HEY!!!! What do you have against the Zebra Cakes? Those are one of purest forms of congealed sugar known to people in the areas that Little Debbie is sold in. Aside from Peeps. /chad thinks back to when he used to eat those things a lot. /chad thinks that the ingested Zebra Cakes might explain a few things. /chad decides not to go there. > They make artificial flavours and colours taste > good. :P That's why they are artificial. Sheash. :P - -- chad at radix dot net "Wish You A Good Health" - my fortune from my dinner last night. How lame. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:38:22 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: Fruvous overdose i've decided that i've overdosed on Fruvous. it's taken me over a year and a half, but it's finally happened. *sigh* depressing, eh? i have officially sworn off listening to my cds and tapes. the only time i'll hear it is if it's on the radio (heehee... i started today and heard both 1/2 As Much *and* Get in the Car. ah the joys of BER). but that doesn't mean i won't be by here and FHDC. :) anyhoo... to ensure my success, i bought three brand new cds. i got Breathing Tornados by Ben Lee (fan*tab*ulous!), ummm... the SNMNMNM cd (another *very*very*very* good album!), and this one by this one band that i can't remember but i listened to it b/c i recognized the symbol for the coalition of independent music thingy that i had seen somewhere on FDC. it's good though. if anyone's interested, i could find out for you. : ) well, wish me luck! Maggie ***I'm gonna figure out a new quote soon***Don't miss the puffins too much!*** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:33:24 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: KESWICK -- call the box office not Ticketmaster! chad schrock wrote: > Lawrence, Lawrence, Lawrence.... They only do incredible shows > like that in Annapolis. You were there. You know that. :) Annapolis, Philadelphia....... same difference... :) > Now, *that* would be a really cool thing. I really wish my dream from the other day would continue so I can find out what happens... they played the first 8 songs from Wood, and after It's Too Cold, Mike and Dave switched places and instruments and then they all just stood there silent for like... at least 5 minutes, and then I woke up, so I never found out if they played Bed and Breakfast or not... - -- Lawrence Solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left blank. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #768 ********************************************