From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #767 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, August 31 1999 Volume 03 : Number 767 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OT: Hot Dogs [Melanie ] re: brutal tour schedule ["Tim Deegan" ] Re: OT: Katchoo, was Jesus, was Thornhill [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori] Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fr] Re: Poor Mary Lane [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: Independence Day Question [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead ] Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) [Bridget ] Re: seen at the local Borders... [~jen <~jen@fruhead.com>] Re: Question: [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: Independce Day Question [sugarfly26@aol.com (SugarFly26)] Re: brutal tour schedule [dalevy@aol.com (DALevy)] directions to unsub [ml3264@cnsvax.albany.edu] Re: Question: ["Adam Hartfield" ] Re: Independence Day Question [Groovy Spice ] Re: directions to unsub [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot co] Re: brutal tour schedule [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot c] Re: half OT half Re: Thornhill contraversy waiting to happen [srm9988n@ao] Re: Dave's accordian [truztno1 ] Re: Keswick, DC shows [truztno1 ] subtlety [Bridget ] Re: Independence Day Question [Amanda.K.Potter@Dartmouth.EDU (Amanda K. P] Re: Guess who's now a Philly and DC area Fruhead? [Kate Bunting ] Re: directions to unsub [NovFraggle@aol.com] Re: Keswick, DC shows [Chad Maloney ] Re: Question: [~jen <~jen@fruhead.com>] Re: subtlety [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: Question: [Lawrence P Solomon ] Re: Keswick, DC shows [Groovy Spice ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:57:45 GMT From: Melanie Subject: OT: Hot Dogs Josh Drury wrote: >>"Wait... How many bites did that take you?" "Uh, dunno... Six?" "Fool! We must get out of here before the Hot Dog Council finds out!" "Hey, relax... Just let me wash off this mustard." "NO! YOU'RE ONLY MAKING IT WORSE!!">> LOL....several times. Thanks, Josh, I needed that. melanie "And I'm pissed that I'm not gettin' younger, gettin' pretty, gettin' love, gettin' laid." Moxy Fruvous, Earthquakes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:55:05 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: re: brutal tour schedule Tara said "Sure, it's their chosen profession and they love it, but it's gotta be rough living like that..." Holy psychic connection, Bat Man!! that's *exactly* what i've been thinking lately!!! after listening to Thornhill, i've wanted to scream at them "TAKE SOME TIME OFF!!!" not because i think it sucks (this is definately my favoritest album ever) but because of how it makes me feel. and then thinking about their non-stop touring and how much it must totally suck to be living like that, day in, day out, pretty much year after year... i'm getting motion sickness just thinking about it! if the frumen want my opinion (not likely, but i'm going to give my opinion anyways. : P ), they should take some time off, at *least* a few months, and have some "me" time. work on their song-writing on uninterrupted time, spend some much-needed time with friends, family and other loved ones (:::coughcough::: Mike! :::coughcough:::)... ya know... actually get some sleep! poor Jian looked about to fall right over last week at Harbourfest. *sigh* Maggie "Befriend the puffins... before the puffins attack!" -- Jian ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:21:11 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: OT: Katchoo, was Jesus, was Thornhill Acronym hell strikes again ... serra44 said: >I had a feeling there was an SiP presence in the Fru-community, and vice >versa, Okay, I'm baffled. Wtf is SiP? - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:05:35 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) Trace wailed: >Hey! Not Little Debbie! I love her brownies. You're a bad person >Lori. So you finally caught on to this? :> > >So you don't like Little Debbie brownies.... I must admit, the brownies are good. Highly sweet, but good. Those other ... things ... however ... *Zebra Cakes* and the swiss-rolly things -- eeeeew! They make artificial flavours and colours taste good. :P - -- Lori, who loves Tastykake strawberry krimpets best. Fruit verité -- you can see the little slivers of strawberry in the icing! :9 ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:08:34 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: Poor Mary Lane lisa moore wrote >I believe I once read that Poor Mary Lane was inspired by David Mamet's play >Oleanna. It addressed sexual harassment within a university. The cinematic >version of the play starred William H. Macy from Fargo and was released in >1994. wow, it always suprises me when people write music based on things theyve read...i always asume it's personal, in some way or other. although i guess, one does feel personally attatched to what they read, so, it makes sence. just some comments on the play. it's *interesting* like most of mammet's plays it's different...slightly controversial. it has very few charactors and takes place in only one single room (again, like most of mammet's plays) i enjoyed reading it...although i'm slightly prejeduce towards him (he's a cousin of mine...i dont know the exact distence, but i know he was at my mother's wedding...being a writer myself, i take pride in writing that came out of my family) ok, i just felt like adding...i dont know why. run along, now, there is nothing to see here solem genna ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:14:31 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Independence Day Question Chad, answering chad with his own visual interpretation of ID, said: >A man standing in the middle foreground opening his coat. In my head, >it's a formal coat not a weather coat. I guess they celebrate >Independence Day formally in my head. Look on his face is a half- >sorrow half-wonderment look with his eyes pointed downward. In the >backgroup there's the a wicked storm striking up. Rain is coming >down noticably (which is a lot for a still frame *grin*) and the >trees are all bent out of shape. 2 lovers are scattering for cover, >woman leading man hand in hand. The hot dog stand is unmanned and >sitting there pretty much unaffected by the rain and wind for >some reason or another. Several balloons float in the air like they >had someone holding them while in the sky, children fly away out >of the storm. The rest of background is subtle closed stores and >hints that it is Independence Day. Does this sound like a Rousseau painting to anyone else? Wow. Vivid, surreal, static, timeless -- and achingly evocative of almost-comprehensible spiritual upheaval. - -- Lori **************** Remember, damaged people are dangerous. They know they'll survive. ~~ Anna, in "Damage" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:59:40 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) - --- Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > Trace wailed: > > >Hey! Not Little Debbie! I love her brownies. > You're a bad person > >Lori. > > So you finally caught on to this? :> > > > >So you don't like Little Debbie brownies.... > > I must admit, the brownies are good. Highly > sweet, but good. let's not forget nutty bars!!! imho, they're the _only_ little debbie's that are worth passing my lips... === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "I don't need a compass to tell me which way the wind shines!" ~Mr. Furious, 'Mystery Men' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:23:32 GMT From: ~jen <~jen@fruhead.com> Subject: Re: seen at the local Borders... > (columbia, MD, for anyone interested) also Wayne, NJ. I saw this a couple of weeks ago, but was not resourceful enough to right it down. For the record, one of Wayne's Sam Goody's also had them at heir listening station, with lots of photocopied posters and such, with one of the new promo pics and the "blender with the top off" quote, as well as another one I'd never heard, but again was no resourceful enough to write down ;-P ~jen - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:37:53 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Question: Josh gave us 3 good reasons to believe Jian reads ammf: >1) Occasionally in interviews, he'll bring up something that was discussed in >the >newsgroup, or he'll reference a dispute on stage, ie over misunderstood lyrics; >2) Last year, Jian actually posted to the newsgroup, apologizing for the poor >treatment of fans by the employees of a certain club (the Trocadero in >Philly); actually February '99; >3) Well, this one's a bit less certain, but in an interview less than a month >ago, >he made a tongue in cheek comment about his "15-year-old girlfriend", which >mirrored an earlier troll saying Jian was dating someone much younger than >himself. Josh forgot: 4) chad schrock has the proof scrawled on his Thornhill CD. :) Jian knows who posts, and what they post about. Bottom Line: if you wouldn't want the band knowing you said it -- don't post it here. - -- Lori **************** Oh no I've said too much I haven't said enough ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 18:23:32 GMT From: sugarfly26@aol.com (SugarFly26) Subject: Re: Independce Day Question >A man standing in the middle foreground opening his coat. In my head, >it's a formal coat not a weather coat. yah, i was sort of picturing a trenchcoat or something. - -----> Ln ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 18:27:13 GMT From: dalevy@aol.com (DALevy) Subject: Re: brutal tour schedule >I was amazed to see all of the non-stop gig dates.... >these poor guys! Starting next week they will be on the road continuously Actually, if you look closely it looks like they're holding to their new "three weeks on, one week off" schedule pretty closely. I'm really hoping they do this and that it works out well. I surely don't want them to get tired of touring. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:44:45 GMT From: ml3264@cnsvax.albany.edu Subject: directions to unsub Hi Folks, Does anyone have the directions for unsubscribing that they told you not to delete? I've enjoyed my stay as a lurking fru-head but because of commitments this fall I'm afraid I have to unsubscribe. Thanks Mary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:42:27 -0400 From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: Question: > 4) chad schrock has the proof scrawled on his Thornhill CD. :) Jian knows > who posts, and what they post about. He must have an in with Santa, or something. 'Twas the night before Fruvous...etc. Didn't someone already come up with one of those? I have vague memories of reading such a thing. Jen Ladywench perhaps? - --Adam (with the R in his last name) adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:38:41 GMT From: Groovy Spice Subject: Re: Independence Day Question In article <37CBF10C.88E7B411@fruhead.com>, Chad Maloney wrote: > Several balloons float in the air like they > had someone holding them while in the sky, children fly away out > of the storm. this line is one of the reasons i love this song so much. it's only somewhat relevant to the meaning of the song, but how many times as a kid did i stand there with a balloon string tied around my wrist, so that it wouldn't fly away when i inevitably forgot to hold onto it? and how many times did i lift my arm in the air and dream that i was rising into the air with the balloon? the line "and the children let go their balloons and flew away," is just so perfect. *shiver* peace, ellen **************************************************************** Bound with all the weight of all the words he tried to say Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 19:17:35 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: directions to unsub Mary asked: >Hi Folks, > Does anyone have the directions for >unsubscribing that they told you not to delete? The FAQ has them! URL below. Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~~^~ ^~^~^ ~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~ ^~^ ^~^~^~ ^~^~ ^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 19:19:45 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: brutal tour schedule Doug Levy said: >it looks like they're holding to their new "three >weeks on, one week off" schedule pretty closely. I'm really hoping they do >this >and that it works out well. I surely don't want them to get tired of touring. I'll second that. Especially since it seems all I can manage before utterly collapsing is "one week on, three weeks off". :) - -- Lori ***************** Lonely, baby I'm not lonely, I've got my imaginary friends ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 19:24:07 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: half OT half Re: Thornhill contraversy waiting to happen Mark "Bradfru" joined us: >"Yes, I am new to ammf and IRC, bear with me...." Welcome Mark! Have you seen http://www.fruvous.com yet? Check it out -- soon you'll feel like you've been here and at #moxy for your whole life .... To get quickly up to speed, link to the FAQ page from fruvous.com (or its URL is given below.) Glad to have you on board this runaway train ride! Don't let the twists and turns frighten you -- it's all perfectly safe. Trust me. Ask anyone, they'll tell you. :> Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~~^~ ^~^~^ ~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~ ^~^ ^~^~^~ ^~^~ ^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:05:34 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Re: Dave's accordian Ken Perschke wrote: > > > > dave needs duct tape for his accordian?!?!??! yikes, how old is it, and > what > > does he DO to his poor accordian? > > If I'm not mistaken, this one is only 2 1/2 years old. I recal noticing that > it was different around the beginning of 97. Correct me if I'm wrong! > > Ken and it actually NEEDS duct tape? or is he just making a musical fashion statement? (the new fabric for this fall.... duct tape!!! imagine trying to dress/undress... *ouch*) ~truztno1 (sorry, i can't get over this whole dave's-accordian-is-only-2.5-years-olds-and-it-needs-duct-tape-to-survive thing. *shakes head*) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:10:55 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Re: Keswick, DC shows Chad Maloney wrote: > truztno1 wrote: > questions concerning 9:30 DC and Keswick shows > > 9:30 Club was all ages last time they played there. Incredible show too. > Very very well done. Smoke wasn't too bad where I was upstairs either. > You will come out smelling like smoke, but that's unescapable. do you know what the ticket prices were last year (or will probably be this year) and normally how late it ends? i'm not sure if i'm going, but if i do, i'll probably be having a cousin from the DC area take me, and i don't think she'll be able to stay out that late... > > Also, does anyone know the prices for the keswick (Philadelphia) show > > yet, and if it's located in a relatively safe area? > > The lady on the other end of phone didn't flinch when I gave my > Indiana address. I was so surprised. I think the 2 tickets I > ordered were like $53 or something and I think that includes a > $4 per ticket service charge that I was glad to pay for the > right to see Moxy Fruvous at a sit down venue in Philadelphia. *nod*... i'm understanding it's a really nice theater in a nice neighborhood, and according to their website, "there's no bad seat in the house" or something like that. so would all the ticket prices be the same? thanks for everybody's help! ~truztno1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:58:10 GMT From: Bridget Subject: subtlety wow. bed and breakfast is playing on my CDRom *right* *this* *second*!!! (wink, wink... nudge, nudge...) === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "I don't need a compass to tell me which way the wind shines!" ~Mr. Furious, 'Mystery Men' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:22:42 GMT From: Amanda.K.Potter@Dartmouth.EDU (Amanda K. Potter) Subject: Re: Independence Day Question - --- Lori at fruhead dot com wrote, commentating on Chad's amazing post: Does this sound like a Rousseau painting to anyone else? Wow. Vivid, surreal, static, timeless -- and achingly evocative of almost-comprehensible spiritual upheaval. - --- end of quote --- Yes! I was thinking of Magritte as well. Especially with the floating children... in fact, I have Magritte's Golconde as my wallpaper right now- it's the one with all the floating businessmen, which is sort of how I picture the children in Chad's painting. Thank you Chad for such a beautiful mental image... maybe one of the artists here will use it as inspiration, like k@t did! :o) - -amanda, thinking how cool it would be to match a painting to every Fruvous song... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:58:15 -0400 From: Kate Bunting Subject: Re: Guess who's now a Philly and DC area Fruhead? > >The Philly/Baltimore/DC/Virginia crowd welcomes you with open arms! > Hey, Kate! You skipped right past Delaware!!! *pout* You don't love us. > > ladywench "We're in... Delaware." - Wayne Not true! I love you very much! I just, umm... kind of *forgot* Delaware! Humblest apologies! loves, Kate ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Katherine E. Bunting sailor@wam.umd.edu "Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?" ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:26:14 GMT From: SnarkiFru Subject: Re: Question: Whiskers21 wrote: > Do they actually read this? It wouldn't SUPRISE me, per se, especially after > all the "Jian/Murray-went-up-us-and-talked" tales I've just read, but how can > they possibly find the time?! and Josh responded with: 3) Well, this one's a bit less certain, but in an interview less than a month ago, he made a tongue in cheek comment about his "15-year-old girlfriend", which mirrored an earlier troll saying Jian was dating someone much younger than himself. well, to add my bit 4)on a personal note: Jian commented in Toronto and then again at FRFF on the way I post some of my ammf stuff... how "organized" my comments and thoughts always seemed to be. 4a) well, last week he did call me SnarkiFru... which I only use on ammf... or email... and since I don't email _him_... Oh, and I also know that Jude at least skims because I posted something once awhile back and mentioned her reading, and she emailed me saying of course she read it, so... Ok, that's my bit. later! - --Angie ...there's a difference between knowing the path and wlking the path... - --Morpheus The Matrix ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:50:08 GMT From: NovFraggle@aol.com Subject: Re: directions to unsub Sorry to see a fellow fru-head go...fare thee well : if you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send the following command in email to : unsubscribe Or you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe ammf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:50:22 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Keswick, DC shows truztno1 wrote: > do you know what the ticket prices were last year (or will probably be this > year) and normally how late it ends? i'm not sure if i'm going, but if i do, > i'll probably be having a cousin from the DC area take me, and i don't think > she'll be able to stay out that late... Hmmmm... I don't pay much attention to ticket prices. Sorry. Maybe $12? As for timing, hmmm again... I was meeting Mary, Zard, and Loren at 6:30pm for dinner. Maybe a 9:00 doors, 10:00 Jess Klein, 11:30pm Fruvous? That's again just a guess. I don't remember. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:17:17 GMT From: ~jen <~jen@fruhead.com> Subject: Re: Question: > Bottom Line: if you wouldn't want the band knowing you said it -- don't post Well, there's always the option of *not* introducing yourself by your screen name ;-) ~jen (just one of a million "Jen"s ;-) - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 1999 21:32:30 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: subtlety Bridget said in an understated way: >wow. bed and breakfast is playing on my CDRom >*right* *this* *second*!!! ya know ... I've had it earwormed for several days now ... I wonder why THAT is .... - -- Lori *************** (s)he takes a shot at the big game ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:37:58 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: Question: Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > Bottom Line: if you wouldn't want the band knowing you said it -- don't post > it here. you do, of course, realize the hard time he'll give us all for mentioning a certain song incessantly, right? :) I can picture the scene in Cleveland now... "Lawrence... you FREAK! Give it a rest!" :) - -- Lawrence Solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com 'Til there his own reflection, like newsgroup posters who won't let much rest Now he hikes the Himalays, but he'd rather listen to Bed and Breakfast...... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:27:39 GMT From: Groovy Spice Subject: Re: Keswick, DC shows In article <37CC28BF.86106A86@hotmail.com>, tigger246@hotmail.com wrote: > do you know what the ticket prices were last year (or will probably be > this year) and normally how late it ends? i'm not sure if i'm going, > but if i do, i'll probably be having a cousin from the DC area take me, > and i don't think she'll be able to stay out that late... the 9:30 club has a fairly informative web site, http://www.930.com specifically http://www.930.com/info/facts.html will tell you that on fridays & saturdays, doors open at 9PM and the opening band will go on about 10. their concert calendar is not up to november yet, but i'm guessing tix will be somewhere between $10 and $15. all, of course, assuming that they *do* actually play the 9:30. ;) re: the keswick > so would all the ticket prices be the same? i believe "pit" seats (which look to be the very front 3 rows) were $27 and all gone. the rest were $22. peace, ellen **************************************************************** Bound with all the weight of all the words he tried to say Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. 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