From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #763 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, August 30 1999 Volume 03 : Number 763 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [Interp] It's Too Cold [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fr] Re: CD Holders ["Jerry Levine/ Madd Hatter" ] Re: Song List- Le phoque en Alaska [hKath ] Dave needs a new banjo was Re: Maggie's Harbourfront review [Lawrence P S] Re: Eaton's [Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) [Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.que] Re: OT: BNL/GBS [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (my friend goo)] the harbourfront MPG incident [Taryn Chase ] carey finds another fruvous lookalike [acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78)] Re: Maggie's Harbourfront review [Groovy Spice ] Re: Song List- Le phoque en Alaska [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fru] Re: Song List- Le phoque en Alaska [pingouin1@my-deja.com] Dave was at edgefest! ["The Marvelous Myla Fantastik" ] Re: the harbourfront MPG incident [Chad Maloney ] Re: the harbourfront MPG incident ["Winnie da Fru aka Sara" ] Re: Dave's accordian- was Maggie's Harbourfront review [truztno1 ] Re: Mostly OT:Mike Wood; FR*SL*T extrodinaire [Melanie "You're such a lucky bastard > I hope I didn't scare you > We did not do nothing to you > Leave you alone > Leave you alone" those words, because there seems to be two people talking (one who says i, the other chimes in and talks as "we"). it leads me to believe that they were OTHER opressive forces. these are a "flashback" of his childhood. they are in the background of his thoughts, and thus the background of the song. >"Lonely at nightfall > Bad dreams of rag dolls > When the bough breaks > The earth shakes > No one hears at all" also in the background, thus also in the back of his mind. the ragdoll acts as a simbol of childhood. bad dreams...bad thoughts of his childhood. his childhood was shattered painfully, his whole world destroyed...and he had no one to turn to...no one to hear him at all. flash to present day: "You're the last of a breed and it's begining to stink" the man laments the fact that he has no children...he wants children, but sees himself as an unfit father, and doesnt want to put his children through that. finds it unbareable. "So you take to the clouds with your bible and drink" he drowns his sorrows in alcohol. and hides his badness behind a screan of religion. .more than likely the bible was imposed on him by his parents. the bible outlines right and wrong for him, but does it weakly. his parents were religious, yet, they hurt him. he holds the bible sacred, but he sees it as a flimsy excuse...just as the alcohol isnt the most effective meathod. > The proclimation was made, the proclamation was felt There's a new notch in your belt" like chad said...a beating...one of many that he gave to his wife Very carefully you've protected your house Now there's no getting out" he wanted to do the best for her. believed that he was helping her in the only way he new how. his beatings "protected her" now he realizes what he's done. and also realizes he doesnt know how to stop. "It's too cold It's too late It's too far" he is helpless...he cant stop it. it's too cold-the world. cold and indifferent. too late-it's been happening to long...it's happened already. it's too far-to far developed...to far along to change. the thoughts in his head get a bit warbled. he feels physically cold...he feels excuses. (i dont know if that made much sence to most of you, but i cant really put that feeling into wrds...it's one ive felt. said "i'm too tiard, too cold, i want to go home"...on a hot summer in midday in my own bedroom...i was FEELING the metaphor...it's very odd...i cant explain) "There's a lovely house on a lovely street There's a burning star but it's giving no heat To the sting that was felt on the back of your hand Now someone's lost command Very secretly you've infected your house Now there's no getting out" ah...the suberban beauties. so much can happen behind a lovely picket fence and smoking chimney. more than likely the world doesnt see whats going on in that house. theyve got the happy family thing going. but...it's all a front. all the abuse is a secret. no one knows. "infected your house" he gave them the burden of abuse that he had himself...sigh...he's given them the same burdens he had, passing it on like a desease. that's my interp. your milage may varie solem genna ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 1999 18:45:36 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) Veronica said: >Jos Louis, disgusting? Sure, yet infinitely better than >Twinkies, or the myriad of other disgusting packaged *things* I saw in a >PA gas station recently... people *eat* those things?! "People" may, but I sure as heck don't. (Little Debbies = the ultimate nuclear rations, imo.) Give me Tastykake or give me home baked, sez I. Nothing else deserves the name "snack cake". - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:55:02 -0500 From: "Jerry Levine/ Madd Hatter" Subject: Re: CD Holders Hey, mine does fine...you just have to make sure you put the cds in correctly. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:42:47 -0400 From: "Ken Perschke" Subject: Re: Maggie's Harbourfront review > ok, that does it. I'm definitely starting the "Dave needs new musical > equipment" fund. > > With only $5 from each member of Fruhead Dot Com (a small amount, don't you > think?) we can raise over $3000, which is enough for a new pickup for the > banjo *and* a nice new > non-duct-taped-together-won't-be-duct-taped-together-for-a-long-time-because - -it's-brand-new-unless-Dave-abuses-the-hell-out-of-his-accordions > accordion. > > And if FHDC keeps getting bigger, we might even have enough to buy him a whole > new banjo... :) > -- Unfortunately, I think the banjo problem is more than the pickup... It's probably the pickup + amp + distortion (notice the hum only occurs during MM) + soundboard... How about we just pool money and get him a really good noise suppresser? :) Side note: why would you want to replace the banjo when it has that really cool painted head?!?! Ken, the banjo fanatic ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:25:00 GMT From: hKath Subject: Re: Song List- Le phoque en Alaska In article <7qeg4k$1r3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, pingouin1@my-deja.com wrote: > Hi > > Reviewing the song list at Fruvous.com i noticed 3 entries for Le > Phoque en Alaska (including an english version). As the original is > probably my favorite non-fru song, can anybody enlighten me as to the > version from MF? Is it availabel anywhere?? > > Thanks > > JF Hi there JF, Unfortunately, there is no official recording of this song anywhere (lord knows all of us would like to be able to listen to it over and over and over ;). The boys occasionally play it while in the province of Québec (or near it, like in Ottawa) or even just for a special event, I suppose. However, some of our adamant Fruvous tapers most probably have a copy (or two or three) of the boys doing this song, so I'd inquire. Sprechen sie Fransösich, JF? Do you speak le Françâs? hKath - -- "A handful of Jergen's doesn't count as experience." - Goats Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:54:29 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Dave needs a new banjo was Re: Maggie's Harbourfront review Ken Perschke wrote: > Unfortunately, I think the banjo problem is more than the pickup... It's > probably the pickup + amp + distortion (notice the hum only occurs during > MM) + soundboard... How about we just pool money and get him a really good > noise suppresser? :) that could work, too, and it's cheaper. :) But I'm pretty sure there's also a problem with the pickup - as in, sometimes it doesn't do its job at all.... plus the buzz can be prevented by using a humbucking pickup, but I don't know if they make those for banjos... > Side note: why would you want to replace the banjo when it has that really > cool painted head?!?! well, because, sadly, I think that's causing part of the problem. Part of what gives a banjo its rather unique timbre is the head, and I don't know that having paint on that would *not* change the sound. Someone (I forget who) theorized that when they took the banjo apart to paint it, something got put back wrong, or not put back at all, and that that's contributing to the sound problems, too. Also, Dave, if you're reading this, or if someone is reading this to you, maybe when you get a new banjo you could auction the old one off at Frucon or something? :) - -- Lawrence Solomon * http://www.fruhead.com/users/zaph * zaph@fruhead.com "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left blank. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 1999 19:20:52 GMT From: Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Eaton's LOL!! And the first time I saw you post, I thought "Now, why would she use a department store as a nickname?!" :) :) Veronica (still depressed about the demise of Eaton's... I loved that store. It put food in my cupboards and shoes on my feet - my mother worked (works?) in the shoe department!) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 1999 19:16:11 GMT From: Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) Wow... to me they looked much more like door stops, or those neat Fisher Price plastic food items that I played with as a child than something someone would pay good money for and then willingly eat. Amazing... but I've never eaten Little Debbie - don't think we have them here... :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 1999 19:13:49 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (my friend goo) Subject: Re: OT: BNL/GBS >>Also, concerning BNL, I only own Stunt at this point, and I've heard >>many, many people say here that they consider it the band's worst >>album. I personally think that it's not such a bad album in itself, >>but I would also like to hear which album, then, you think is the >>best. stunt's good, but it's my least favourite bnl ...i rarely ever listen to it. i don't even listen to bnl as much as i used to, but when i do, most of the time it's either _gordon_ or _maybe you should drive_. bnl actually used to be my favourite band, pretty much, until i started focusing my energy on.. well... other bands. sarah linnellgirl@tmbg.org http://members.aol.com/limezinger "...i tend to believe her, just because i know that all men are liars." ~ john flansburgh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:47:59 GMT From: Taryn Chase Subject: the harbourfront MPG incident now, i don't claim to know anything about guitars--but i think the little MPG starting mishap had to do with dave forgetting to put the capo on over the appropriate frets... thus, he was in a different key, although the fingerings would be the same--which is why he didn't notice til he *heard* it, and instead tried to blame it on poor murray. (actually, i heard dave was thinking of changing the name of the song to "my poor murray" but... oh nevermind.) but am i right about the wonders of capo transposition? can any guitar players out there back me up about/explain this handy-dandy accessory? ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 1999 19:56:10 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: carey finds another fruvous lookalike Last night was my last night working at Cracker Barrel before I go back to school, and who should come in but a Jian lookalike? He had short and monochromatic hair, but still. Of course I was such a wreck (if you've ever tried to eat at a CB on a Sunday, you'll understand why) that I ended up tripping all over myself in the middle of the dining room and scattering menus and silverware all over the place. It was even worse, because I knew as soon as I saw him come in that I was going to do something stupid like that. But oh, well, it was amusing. I just had to share that with you guys, cos I figured someone would appreciate it. Carey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:45:07 GMT From: Groovy Spice Subject: Re: Maggie's Harbourfront review In article <37CAC9DE.7202E462@tmbg.org>, zaph@tmbg.org wrote: > ok, that does it. I'm definitely starting the "Dave needs new musical > equipment" fund. i thought that was why we ummm.. bought fruvous albums.. and t-shirts. and concert tickets. and so on. ;) peace, ellen **************************************************************** Bound with all the weight of all the words he tried to say Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 1999 20:25:28 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Song List- Le phoque en Alaska Penguin One, after exclaiming over our patented amm-f joie de vivre and bonhomie, and all-around helpfulness, said: >Oui je speak le franglais! Se habla spanglish too? :) Now that he/she has posted three times, I think he/she deserves a Welcome. So: Hi Pin! (Can we call you Pin?) If you've just found amm-f, check out the FAQ (URL below, in my .sig) and cruise by http://www.fruvous.com for more information on all things fru. Then stick around! You're right, we're a friendly newsgroup! Utter lunatics, but friendly -- and we like Alaskan seals a great deal. :) (I assume you've got copies of other versions of La Complainte du Phoque en Alaska, by Hart-Rouge for instance.) Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~~^~ ^~^~^ ~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~ ^~^ ^~^~^~ ^~^~ ^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:04:57 GMT From: pingouin1@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Song List- Le phoque en Alaska In article <37CA92A1.952D39CA@umich.edu>, Joe Navratil wrote: > pingouin1@my-deja.com wrote: > > > can anybody enlighten me as to the > > version from MF? Is it availabel anywhere?? > > The original is not available on a recording that Fruvous has released. > However, using the handy-dandy search engine that's *now on the front > page* of FDC(!) (okay, so it's been there a while, but it's still > really cool :-) ), I discovered that Fruvous has played it at at least > these shows: 8/12/94, 8/21/96, 5/28/97, 5/24/98, 6/6/98, 10/31/98. > > Now, knowing it was played at these shows, if *I* were interested in a > copy of that song, my next step would be to head over to FHDC and check > out the 'Find Tape Traders' section, especially people who are listed as > "newbie friendly." But that's just me. > > -Joe > Wow this is the friendliest NG i have ever encountered! I will be back! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:28:06 GMT From: "The Marvelous Myla Fantastik" Subject: Dave was at edgefest! So, I went to edgefest yesterday. Yeah. I've been to concerts before, and I've never seen so many people smokin' up. You don't believe in the effects of second hand smoking? How about toking? Jeezus, it was like they all decided to gather behind ME and then blow the smoke at my head. (trust me, this ties into the story) After suffering that, I might mention that it was very hot in the crowds and i hadn't eaten all day so I wasn't in the right state of mind. I'd also been kicked in the head a few times from crowd surfers and mosh pits. Then, out of the corner of my eye, I saw Dave. Well, not Dave, but someone who looked EXACTLY like him!!! If he were younger and still bald :) So I called "Hi Dave!!!" to him. None of my fruhead friends were there with me so they just thought I was screwed up. Here's the crazy part: He turned and pointed, then said to his friend "How'd she know my name?" but he had a really deep voice, so I knew it wasn't REALLY him. I laughed and ran away. Just think of how crazy it would have been if it really was our lil' Dave :) Well, how crazy *I* would have been!! - -Myla Beer: it's just not christmas till you've passed out over the arm of the couch ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:03:18 GMT From: pingouin1@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Song List- Le phoque en Alaska In article <7qei9b$3f1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, hKath wrote: > In article <7qeg4k$1r3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > pingouin1@my-deja.com wrote: > > Hi > > > > Reviewing the song list at Fruvous.com i noticed 3 entries for Le > > Phoque en Alaska (including an english version). As the original is > > probably my favorite non-fru song, can anybody enlighten me as to the > > version from MF? Is it availabel anywhere?? > > > > Thanks > > > > JF > > Hi there JF, > > Unfortunately, there is no official recording of this song anywhere > (lord knows all of us would like to be able to listen to it over and > over and over ;). The boys occasionally play it while in the province > of Québec (or near it, like in Ottawa) or even just for a special > event, I suppose. However, some of our adamant Fruvous tapers most > probably have a copy (or two or three) of the boys doing this song, so > I'd inquire. > > Sprechen sie Fransösich, JF? Do you speak le Françâs? > > hKath > > -- > "A handful of Jergen's doesn't count as experience." > - Goats > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > Oui je speak le franglais! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:37:14 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: [Interp] It's Too Cold Chad Maloney wrote: OK, got mine beat. WTG, Chad! Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:55:05 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: the harbourfront MPG incident Taryn Chase wrote: > > but am i right about the wonders of capo transposition? can any guitar > players out there back me up about/explain this handy-dandy accessory? Yeah. The Capo just transposes the whole song up or down. It's useful to put something into a more comfortable range, but it still might change the sound of the song as a whole because some chords are just cool. Fingerings all stay the same. The capo is like moving the open notes around. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:43:02 GMT From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" Subject: Re: the harbourfront MPG incident Taryn asked the knowledgable people of the world, but I replied instead: >but am i right about the wonders of capo transposition? can any guitar >players out there back me up about/explain this handy-dandy accessory? okay, I *used* to play guitar (for 5 or 6 years), but haven't touched it in over a year, so my knowledge is a little rusty. But I would say yes, that makes sense to me. You can also can keys through tuning, but that would have been done by the magical off-stage people (Tobey?). So since it was Dave's fault that he wasn't in key, then the capo thing makes sense. Sara ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:40:10 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Jos Louis (was Re: Hate Letter) Veronica J Gruneberg wrote: > Besides, I'm not a huge fan > of "nuclear rations" either. (My family's nickname for pacakged snack > cakes, based on our theory that those suckers would be the only food > substance to survive a nuclear fallout. We live near Pickering. We live > near Darlington. We have a fully stocked cupboard! ;) Yup, that kinda food is notorious for the preservatives that render them nigh-invulnerable. If you look at the expiration date, it clearly reads "You should live so long". Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 1999 20:57:06 GMT From: jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure) Subject: Re: the harbourfront MPG incident Taryn Chase (Taryn_Chase@zd.com) wrote: : : now, i don't claim to know anything about guitars--but i think the little : MPG starting mishap had to do with dave forgetting to put the capo on over : the appropriate frets... thus, he was in a different key, although the : fingerings would be the same--which is why he didn't notice til he *heard* : it, and instead tried to blame it on poor murray. (actually, i heard dave : was thinking of changing the name of the song to "my poor murray" but... oh : nevermind.) Did he really? I find that rather amusing becasue Mike did the same thing during MPG with the electric guitar at the last Milwaukee show. He didn't notice until the first big chord (after the first verse) when a good chunk of the audience cringed. :) jordan - -- Fnord is the music in rap music. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:31:54 -0400 From: "Ken Perschke" Subject: Re: the harbourfront MPG incident > > but am i right about the wonders of capo transposition? can any guitar > players out there back me up about/explain this handy-dandy accessory? > Now I wasn't there, but this sounds like what happened. I have seen it happen once or twice, when someone isn't paying attention, they miss by a fret or two while the other guitar is correct. It makes for an, um, interesting sound. :) Explanation: the capo is a handy little accessory that allows you to play the same scales/chords and be in a different key. Example: You want to play a song in B (Get In the Car), but you decide that B is not at all a nice key to play in. So you put a capo on the second fret and play chords forms in the key of A (a much nicer key), which turn come out being B as you have raised everything a whole step. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:12:55 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Re: Dave's accordian- was Maggie's Harbourfront review Ken Perschke wrote: > we can raise over $3000, which is enough for a new pickup for the > > banjo *and* a nice new > non-duct-taped-together-won't-be-duct-taped-together-for-a-long-time-because > -it's-brand-new-unless-Dave-abuses-the-hell-out-of-his-accordions > > accordion. dave needs duct tape for his accordian?!?!??! yikes, how old is it, and what does he DO to his poor accordian? ~truztno1 (whose last 'most-beat-up-insturment-viewing' involved a very large tuba, a very large dent, and a very angry band instructor) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:16:33 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Re: OT: BNL/GBS Jennifer Schlosser wrote: > If your favorite songs are the ones GBS wrote, you're probably better off > getting "Turn," their newest album, as it has the highest percentage of > GBS-written stuff. Plus it's a great album. The other albums are great as > well, but they have more traditional songs on them. Ok, thanks, I'll keep that in mind! Do you know whether it'll be released in the US anytime soon? > > Also, concerning BNL, I only own Stunt at this point, and I've heard > > many, many people say here that they consider it the band's worst > > album. > BNL info that i had to snip 'cause my news server/newsreader sucks... > > Of course, I would also recommend that you buy *all* of GBS's and BNL's CDs > right now. You hit on two of my three favorite bands. :) > > Jennifer. eh... my CD budget is a bit limited right now, but who knows, I may eventually get to that point ; )... thanks to everybody's VERY useful advice, i think it's decided... i'm off to get Gordon and Play/Turn! ~truztno1 (who, with luck, may be a big GBS/BNL fan by the end of the week) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:58:21 GMT From: Melanie Subject: Re: Mostly OT:Mike Wood; FR*SL*T extrodinaire Vika said: >Mike Wood is a VERY nice >human being, and cute, too. ;) He's just easy to pick on. Hm, OK. I guess I just haven't been around Frudom long enough. So is the very cute Mike Wood interested in seducing any female Fruheads over the age of 35? Hmmm? (though perhaps I won't insert a *wink* here.) melanie ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #763 ********************************************