From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #750 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, August 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 750 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Independence Day Question [Chad Maloney ] Re: Independence Day Question ["Winnie da Fru aka Sara" ] Re: Thornhill reflections revisited... [trace@fruhead.com (Trace)] Re: BNL & MF [Geenius at Wrok ] re: Thornhill reflections revisited... [Bridget ] Re: BNL & MF [trace@fruhead.com (Trace)] Re: My Impressions on Thornhill [Tom Fazzio ] Re: New Frudegreen [truztno1 ] Re: BNL & MF [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Kind of OT: subject lines [truztno1 ] Re: Independence Day Question [Josh Drury ] Re: Thornhill reflections revisited... [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: BNL & MF ["Adam Hartfield" ] Re: Independence Day Question [LSan497884@aol.com] MUSIC ITEMS FS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [slink43809@aol.com (Slink43809)] OT: priceline.com (this is not spam) [Bridget ] Dissing the anti-Beatles [auerworld@followme.com] Re: OT: Not Dogs (was: Independence Day Question) [Donna Hunt Subject: Re: Independence Day Question Vika Zafrin wrote: > > Joe Navratil said: > > > "And the people came around on Independence Day > > And the children let go their balloons and flew away." > > > >It's supposed to be a celebration, a party, but everything's backwards. > >The children are flying away instead of the balloons. This can also be > > Are you sure it's not "...let go their balloons *that* flew away"? > That's how I've been hearing it. I always hear it as "and the children let go their balloons then flew away" which has the same meaning as what Joe said to me. And I definitely agree with Joe's reversal interp of the line. Maybe you aren't such a greedy bastard after all, Joe ;p - Chad (who only pushes the Joe's a greedy bastard joke because some people thought he was serious about it *smile*) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:37:26 GMT From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" Subject: Re: Independence Day Question Wow, look at the discussion that I've stated! Hee hee! But thanks for all your input...it made so much more sense after hearing everyone else's opinions, and helped to make my own ideas more concrete (I was never very good at analyzing books in high school english). Keep discussing away, it's great to read everybody's different ideas! Sara ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:33:10 GMT From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" Subject: Another Thornhill Frudegreen Okay, the orignal lyric in Splatter Splatter is: "Kids in their PJs Big bowl of nachos" But what I hear when I listen to the song (and still hear even though I know the correct lyrics) is: "Consider BJ's Big bowl of nachos" My initial reaction was: hey, that's really cool that BJ makes a guest appearence in another song. Hmmm....it made sense to me at least. :p Sara ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:13:53 GMT From: saphiracat@birdlover.com Subject: Re: yet another new frudegreen ---- you wrote: > My brother and I were listening to MBLABOA in the car today, and he asked me, > "Why is he leaving on the light for Mel Brooks?" > > Carey > (whose mother saw Fruvous pics for the first time today and was very surprised > at how "clean-cut" they -- especially Mike -- looked) > I guess Frudegreen means misheard Fruvous lyrics so here's my little contribution. When I first heard Morphee, I thought the first line was "Lingerie" instead of "Longue journée". Of course I didn't know why they were talking about underwear, so I figured it had to be wrong. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:07:46 -0400 From: Michele Subject: Call to Action - Air Time on Boston Area Radio Hey everyone in the Boston Area! I just talked to the radio station The River 92.5 (WXRV) and they are turned on to "Splatter Splatter". (They seem to like playing this one better than "I Will Hold On", which seems to be the accepted single off of Thornhill - right?). Keep requesting it! The request line is (800) 352 9250. This radio station seems to be open to new music during their "Free Form Lunch" weekdays from noon - 1pm. "Splatter Splatter" was just played! Yea!!!!! Let's get Moxy Fruvous more air play in Boston. - Michele ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 17:36:30 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Independence Day Question ellen said: >only if they sell tofu pups. ;) seriously, are they any good? I was eyeing them in the grocery store the other night, wondering if non-meat hot dogs were an oxymoron ... (One of my annoying maternal anecdotes: me to preschool-Andrew, explaining why a meal of hot dog AND cheese AND an egg wasn't a good idea: "You need something in there besides animal protein. Cheese is milk, and eggs come from chickens, and a hot dog is meat ... " To which A sensibly replied: "hot dogs are NOT meat!" ) >wow, you read a lot more into that than i did. Says the woman who successfully deconstructed Fly and MPG? Yikes, now I *know* I'm deep into this literary-criticism mood. Maybe I oughta go read something instead of sitting here chattering. :) Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~~^~ ^~^~^ ~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~ ^~^ ^~^~^~ ^~^~ ^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 17:56:35 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: re: Thornhill reflections revisited... Angie said: >Its a strange thing to travel all over following a band... but you know... >when i'm a wrinkly old great-grandmother i'll be able to sit back in my >rocking chair and tell them youngin's about my crazy youthful years. I'm not planning on being wrinkly. As a matter of fact, I sincerely hope I'm still pursuing this sort of insanity if/when my progeny's progeny has progeny of their own. But for the record -- is it really the band that we follow all over (ie, what *I'd* call veering into obsession, YMMV) so much as that the band is really a focal point for the kind of escapism we'd no doubt need another outlet for in their absence? I think in my case it's become the latter -- much as I adore them and look forward to their shows, I Frütrip for the whole atmosphere, which includes seeing new places, meeting new people, and having a blast of an evening or a weekend or a mini-vacation. I love it. I love Früvous. And I know I'd never have had a wonderful time in such locales as Utica and Hoboken were it not for this band. But much of that good time has more to do with the relationships I've struck up through being a fan of this band, than with the band or the music itself. Wonderful and friendly and enchanting as the guys are, cathartic as I find their live shows to be, for me it doesn't revolve around them so much as some of the dear, lovely people I've met through being a fan. That's what I truly treasure about this experience, online and off. I guess I'm a Frühead-head, eh? :) - -- Lori ****************** I'll hold my ground when people stop and stare ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 18:28:47 GMT From: bnljax@aol.com (BnlJax) Subject: Re: BNL & MF >"Moxy does this...only >they do it better..." Well, thats a matter of opinion..isnt it? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:28:41 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: Independence Day Question - --- Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > ellen said: > > >only if they sell tofu pups. ;) > > seriously, are they any good? I was eyeing > them in the grocery store the other > night, wondering if non-meat hot dogs were an > oxymoron ... some brands are not bad. however, my fellow vegetarian friend jo's family has dubbed them 'eraser dogs'... === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "Canada should be at the end of this street." ~Eddie from Ohio, 'Fifth of July' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:20:55 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: Thornhill reflections revisited... On 26 Aug 1999 17:56:35 GMT, srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) wrote: >But much of that good time has more to do with the relationships I've struck up >through being a fan of this band, than with the band or the music itself. >Wonderful and friendly and enchanting as the guys are, cathartic as I find >their live shows to be, for me it doesn't revolve around them so much as some >of the dear, lovely people I've met through being a fan. That's what I truly >treasure about this experience, online and off. I agree Lori. As much as I love their music, their live shows, and their engaging personalities, the whole Fruvous experience has been magnified by sharing it with all the wonderful people I've met and become friends with as a result of Fruvous. Many of my best Fruhead memories concern interaction with the *people* I share those memories with. I love this community and the feeling that no matter where I travel to, I am among friends. I simply can't quantify that feeling, but I'm grateful to Fruvous for promoting it. > >I guess I'm a Frühead-head, eh? :) Ok, serious stuff is out of the way, now I get to play. I'm all for coining new terms, but I move to strike the term "Fruhead-head" from our collective consciousness. You go too far with this one Lori. I *really* didn't need that visual, and have been traumatized by it. :-) - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com AMM-F: You must be this insane to ride ----- - -Veronica J Gruneberg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:04:46 -0400 From: Geenius at Wrok Subject: Re: BNL & MF On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Kristy Thompson wrote: > I just saw BNL on the 22nd for the first time. They were booked in our > largest sports arena I can't find exact numbers but it was huge. It was a > great show but I still kept thinking the whole time. "Moxy does this...only > they do it better..." In fairness to BNL, who really are a great band, I think they get a lot of energy from being close to the audience. I've seen them three times: once at a club, once in a music theater with seats right up to the stage and once in a music theater with a big orchestra pit space between seats and stage. Every show was good, but every time they seemed just a teensy bit less into it. If you're the kind of band who really thrive on audience contact and interaction, playing large-venue shows must be really tough. While I'd never begrudge Früvous the kind of large-scale success that BNL are having, I can sense the same enjoyment of close contact with their audiences, and I wonder whether playing to music-theater or (God forbid) stadium crowds wouldn't leave them thinking that something essential was missing. Wouldn't it be nice if you could sell a million copies yet never have to play to more than 300 people at a time? - -- "I wish EVERY day could be a shearing festival!" -- The 10 Commandments =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Keith Ammann is geenius@albany.net "I notice you have a cloud of doom. Live with honor, endure with grace I must admit it makes you seem www.albany.net/~geenius * Lun Yu 2:24 dangerous and sexy." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:26:48 GMT From: Bridget Subject: re: Thornhill reflections revisited... - --- Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > > But for the record -- is it really the band > that we follow all over (ie, what > *I'd* call veering into obsession, YMMV) so > much as that the band is really a > focal point for the kind of escapism we'd no > doubt need another outlet for in > their absence? I think in my case it's become > the latter -- much as I adore > them and look forward to their shows, I Frütrip > for the whole atmosphere, which > includes seeing new places, meeting new people, > and having a blast of an > evening or a weekend or a mini-vacation. lori, i can't tell you how fervently i agree with you. i can still remember telling my mom last december that i was going to syracuse... hearing silence from the other end of the phone... and then her reaction: "_syracuse_?!?!?!?"... "_why_ syracuse?!?!?". unfortunately, the 'because i've never been there' excuse didn't get too far, so i had to admit that i was going to see a band. which _was_ true at the time, as it was my first "real" frutrip... but in the months since, i am more apt to frutrip to see the band, yes, but even moreso to see the people i've met along the way. btw, joe, when i said the other day that i was going to michigan to see _you_ and that fruvous was just a nice distraction... i wasn't completely kidding, ya know! > But much of that good time has more to do with > the relationships I've struck up > through being a fan of this band, than with the > band or the music itself. > Wonderful and friendly and enchanting as the > guys are, cathartic as I find > their live shows to be, for me it doesn't > revolve around them so much as some > of the dear, lovely people I've met through > being a fan. That's what I truly > treasure about this experience, online and off. amen! i can't stress enough how wonderful i think all of you are! in my frutrips i have met some of the most endearing people... and i hope the trend continues for years to come.. (o; > I guess I'm a Frühead-head, eh? :) hee hee... forget the "murray's people"... we should become the first official "fruhead's people"... *g* === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "Canada should be at the end of this street." ~Eddie from Ohio, 'Fifth of July' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:26:16 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: BNL & MF On 26 Aug 1999 18:28:47 GMT, bnljax@aol.com (BnlJax) wrote: >>"Moxy does this...only >>they do it better..." > >Well, thats a matter of opinion..isnt it? Yep, and that's a fact. :-) - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com AMM-F: You must be this insane to ride ----- - -Veronica J Gruneberg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 02:31:36 -0400 From: Tom Fazzio Subject: Re: My Impressions on Thornhill > >did > >anyone else notice that Independence Day is spelled > >wrong on the back cover? > > Very odd ... it's not misspelled on the American version. thank god you posted this, because I sat here for 5 minutes looking at FDC and at my album to figure out what was spelt wrong... later, tom. PS - now back at school, away from my parents, and loving it *hic*! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:41:07 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Re: New Frudegreen Josh Drury wrote: > Before I bothered reading the lyrics, I always thought the line in "Present > Tense Tureen" was "Like a cat a Christmas..." It made sense to me, because I > have a cat and if you've seen how much fun they can have with all that > discarded wrapping paper, you'd understand too. It's all fun and games until > they start coughing up tinsel. aaacck! ditto! and i wouldn't have known that it was "kid at x-mas" until you metioned it and i hurried over to FDC.... (ok, ok, i know how you folks *really* dislike "me-too" posts, but I just couldn't resist... my posting fingers couldn't help themselves.... sorry if i've pissed anyone off!) ~truztno1 _________________________________ Say what you mean...Mean what you say Don't let words get in your way **SoVoSo~Say** ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 18:33:04 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: BNL & MF A BNL fan trolled onto our board to say <<"Moxy does this...only they do it better..." Well, thats a matter of opinion..isnt it?>> Which of course isn't even worth responding to, since as far as I know, almost everything posted on this board is "a matter of opinion, isn't it"? That's kinda the point of these boards ... However, I had wanted to respond to that comment myself ... I don't think I actually posted this when it happened but only mentioned it to another NG member in a private e-mail. Now I think it's time to share another Dana-ism if you can stand it ... A friend had made me a BNL mixtape which we were listening to while we were driving from Maryland to Ohio (lotsa time to listen to new stuff on the endless I-80) ... Dana's comment on BNL was: "I like them OK. They're like Moxy Fruvous only more famous and not as good." Out of the mouths of 8-year-olds ... but that's only a matter of her opinion, isn't it??? :) QL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:45:06 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Kind of OT: subject lines Pooky Toby wrote: > I recall that a while ago there was a post about how someone under 21 could get > in to a 21 and over show if they were with a parent...is this true? Does > anyone know? I'm 17, and I want desperately to go to the NYE show at the > Tralf, but it's 21 and over. > > ~Erin~ > > "Not knowing knowledge never ennobles" -Fell in Love hmmm, my newsreader/monitor only shows part of the subject line, so at first i thought that this was JUST 21 and over.... as in porno... anyway, there's a point to this, and it's that in the future, could you please make the subject line something like "shows: 21 and over" or something like that? if it's too much of a pain in the butt, fine, but that way I wouldn't possibly be missing useful info. thanks! ~truztno1 _________________________________ Say what you mean...Mean what you say Don't let words get in your way **SoVoSo~Say** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:48:52 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Independence Day Question Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > ellen said: > > >only if they sell tofu pups. ;) > > seriously, are they any good? I was eyeing them in the grocery store the other > night, wondering if non-meat hot dogs were an oxymoron ... No, but it's damn near being redundant. My girlfriend is working this summer doing quality analysis for Maple Leaf Meats, and aside from knowing first-hand what goes into weiners (it's not prime-cut muscle, I'll tell you), she also reports that the legal minimum for protein content is 11%. As a result, you won't find weiners more than a tiny fraction over 11% protien, and if you should, rest assured someone at the weiner plant is getting hell for it. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 18:36:46 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Thornhill reflections revisited... I would like to throw in one more comment on this thread of Fruheads and what they mean to us and then I'll scootle off back to my work ... When I went to my first Fruvous shows solo (I believe it was the Bottom Line all-ages show with Dana and then the 930 Club), as in solo meaning without my husband, he was very worried and concerned and suspicious about these Fruheads he didn't know and would i be ok, etc. etc. etc. Especially at the 930 Club. Then he came to the Rams Head and the first Borders in-store last week and saw the interaction and, God I hate to sound corny, but "the love" there. So when they announced that the Nov. 20 show would be once again at the 930 Club and he knew he was working that night, he turned to me and said "Now, you make sure if you're getting there early to wait on line that you're with all the Fruheads so I know you're ok." So who's going to be wating on line early with me???????????? QL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:16:00 -0400 From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: BNL & MF > Out of the mouths of 8-year-olds ... but that's only a matter of her opinion, > isn't it??? > > :) > QL No, I think this would qualify as just her $0.02. :) - --Adam adam.hartfield@barco.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:23:21 GMT From: LSan497884@aol.com Subject: Re: Independence Day Question In a message dated 8/25/99 3:04:45 PM Central Daylight Time, daancing_queen@HOTMAIL.COM writes: > "(Murray, w/ others) Geneveive, I do believe I can't go on this way > (All) Now I know what freedom is on Independence Day." > > Anyone have any thoughts on what this means? Is it yet another song about a > > breakup? Given the lines: > > "I stuck my hand into my coat > Felt the letter that you wrote. > I said "This is Independence Day. > I wonder how I'll celebrate?""> IMO, this song can be interpreted in a couple of ways. On the surface (i.e., the comments about the crowds, the children, the balloons,etc.), this appears to be a song about a national holiday, and I suppose one can enjoy it in that context. It took on a very different meaning for me, however, at the line about the letter in the pocket. I think "independence" takes on a whole new meaning for the person singing. I interpret it as him receiving a letter from someone he cares about "breaking up" (or some similar kind of breaking away) with him. All of a sudden, he's faced with independence and doesn't really know what to do. It feels to me as though this is somewhat of a surprise, and as a result he feels bewildered by his feelings. I like this. It brings a whole new depth to the song. And it's part of what makes it a very good song. *Lois (Fogeyfru) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 19:47:08 GMT From: slink43809@aol.com (Slink43809) Subject: MUSIC ITEMS FS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EMail me at Slink43809@aol.com and let me know you want to see my for sale list and I will send it to you. Please specify which newgroup you read this on also. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:57:10 GMT From: Bridget Subject: OT: priceline.com (this is not spam) has anyone here ever purchased tickets thru priceline.com? (that's the service that lets you bid on airline tickets). they offered me tickets from denver to buffalo for the nye bash for $250. The skeptic in me is wondering if this is legit... if anyone out there knows anything about them, please let me know! many thanx in advance... (o; === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "Canada should be at the end of this street." ~Eddie from Ohio, 'Fifth of July' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:59:25 GMT From: auerworld@followme.com Subject: Dissing the anti-Beatles AM><<< This message is part 3 of a previous message >>> AM>back in 1967, a little album called "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" AM>waves mostly for its music, but was also rather distinct in having lyrics AM>included with the record -- I don't think it was the first time anyone did it AM>but it was rare at the time to say the least. Now, 32 years later, Moxy Fruvous AM>is bucking that trend by NOT including lyrics. Only one conclusion is possible AM>- -- Moxy Fruvous are the anti-Beatles! AM>Josh Drury AM>Winnipeg Don't go dissing either the Beatles OR the anti-Beatles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Somebody might get upset and after all name-calling is VERY un-Canadian, eh? AM>End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #748 AM>******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:57:05 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: OT: Not Dogs (was: Independence Day Question) Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > >only if they sell tofu pups. ;) > > seriously, are they any good? I was eyeing them in the grocery store the other > night, wondering if non-meat hot dogs were an oxymoron ... I like 'em. I don't think I've had official "Tofu Pups"--but I've had lots of the vegetable protein ones. Not Dogs are better, in my opinion... I hated hot dogs until I became a vegetarian! [well, except for those big ones at the Ballpark. I'm hooked on 'em. And the Mustard. Fortunately, I'm not often at the ballpark. :) ] ciao, donna ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #750 ********************************************