From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #733 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, August 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 733 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Douglas Adams (was: Murray's Dead?! ;) ["Ken Perschke" ] rochester fruheads ~ snmnmnm info [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (my friend g] Re: NYE and NYD [cookie ] Re: SSSP Review [fruwench@aol.com (FruWench)] Re: Mix 99.9 Thingy ["Winnie da Fru aka Sara" ] Re: OT: chad alleges Trace and Lori get lost easily [Veronica J Gruneberg] Re: Mix 99.9 appearance on Wednesday - details! [Veronica J Gruneberg <6v] Re: People poll (was: SSSP Review) [Geenius at Wrok ] Re: where do YOU buy cds? ["Jill Hufnagel" ] Re: where do YOU buy cds? ["Jill Hufnagel" ] Re: Where do YOU buy CDs [Melanie ] Re: NYE and NYD ["Jill Hufnagel" ] Re: Searching for Ellen's MPG post [Groovy Spice ] Re: Ramshead and stuff (long) [Groovy Spice ] Re: where do YOU buy cds? [Chad Maloney ] Re: Don Dixon [hugh@fruhead.com (Hugh Miller)] Re: where do YOU buy cds? [Uncle Waltie ] Re: Misplaced ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #728 ["Cameron Ross" Subject: Re: Douglas Adams (was: Murray's Dead?! ;) <> > > Douglas Adams ROCKS!!! He actually POSTS to his newsgroup, > alt.fan.douglas-adams, and he seems like a really nice guy, except for > the occasional temper tantrum when they won't let him buy 7 items in the > 6 items line... > > My favourite line is quoted in my usual e-mail signature: He actually dosen't post to alt.fan.douglas-adams anymore, but he's a frequent poster on the message boards on his web site (www.douglasadams.com). HHGTTG fans should check it out!! Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:14:18 GMT From: beebolini.NOSPAM@fruhead.com (Brent McNamee) Subject: Chapters.ca and Thornhill Hi folks! I was browsing around Chapters.ca, the Canadian equivalent of Amazon.com, when I thought I'd take a look around for the guys... I ended up at the Thornhill page, and this was their little summary of the album: - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Genre: Original Release: 1999 Number of Discs: 1 Stereo, Studio Chapters.ca Moxy Früvous is one of the smarter bands to emerge from Canada in the last several years. Like the Barenaked Ladies, their lyrical sensibility is collegiate rather than frat-boyish: it's bookish, socially conscious and witty. Musically the band has broadened its aural sphere with 1999's Thornhill, a titular tip of their hats to their hometown, a suburb of Toronto. The songs roam freely from warm harmonies on "I Will Hold On" to the reverb-soaked surf tune "Splatter Splatter." Like fellow Toronto suburbanite rockers the Rheostatics, this band's Frühead following will certainly grow with this record. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I really liked their review of the band. Short, but to the point... I found it pretty funny, though, for a couple of reasons: 1) They don't pigeon-hole the guys!! Yaay!!! Even "Genre" is blank! 2) We got mentioned, and they even remembered the umlaut! ü ----------[ Brent McNamee - Woodstock, Ontario, CANADA ]------------ bmcnamee NOSPAM @fruhead.com | The answer to the Great (remove the NOSPAM to mail me) | Question of Life, the Universe http://www.execulink.com/~brentmac/ | and Everything: 42 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:43:36 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Misplaced Ken Perschke wrote: > > > > > btw, the guys did misplaced at frucon1 so it hasn't been three years if > that > > very special set counts. > > > I'm not sure if that counts, but I know they did it at the Iron Horse a few > weeks later (3/8/98, if I'm correct), so it's only been a year and a half... > of course, I wasn't at either of these events, so I've never seen it... Another one of the things Fruvous consistently lies about is the length of time it has been since they last played something. That along with whether they've ever played something before or not. You could chalk it up to bad memory or too much LDS in the 60's (star trek reference) but I prefer to think of it as pure lies. ;) A.J. - -- Mariaweb last updated 5/13/99. See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 1999 07:44:42 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (my friend goo) Subject: rochester fruheads ~ snmnmnm info hiya! thought this may be of some interest to ya locals. :) got this email today~ >> SNMNMNM WILL BE GUESTS ON BROTHER WEASE THIS TUESDAY If you have listened to Brother Wease during the past week or so, he has mentioned SNMNMNM numerous times, and just a few days ago delighted his millions....and millions of fans by playing 3 tracks off of the new SNMNMNM CD. On Tuesday August 24th, SNMNMNM will be guests on the show...performing live! The show is going to be live from Manhattan Square Park, and we urge SNMNMNM fans to head on down and show your support Tuesday morning. SNMNMNM are scheduled to go on at 8:00AM. Brother Wease airs on 96.5 WCMF-FM - ---------------------------------------------- NEW GIGS Aug. 24th Brother Wease Show 96.5 WCMF 8:00am Aug. 28th Freedom Fest Bulard Park Albion Ny 12:00pm Fee All Ages Aug. 28th Watt's Fruit Farm Albion Ny 6:30pm Free All Ages Aug. 28th Milestones Rochester Ny w/5head 10pm $5 18+ Sept. 4th WITR 89.7 Comedy Show 12:00pm-2:00pm Sept. 4th Instore-Record Archive 4pm East Ave Roch. Ny Free all ages Sept. 4th Java's Gibbs St. Roch. Ny CD RELEASE PARTY 9pm Free all ages Oct. 1st Milestones Rochester Ny w/Julia's Star 9pm Cover 18+ Oct. 31st Death Of SNMNMNM Halloween Party tba << sarah linnellgirl@tmbg.org http://members.aol.com/limezinger "i never said i was a smoothie!" - conan o'brien ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:23:03 -0700 From: cookie Subject: Re: NYE and NYD CheesemonkeyGem wrote: > > i dont even think i want to go to this show anyway. > while im at it, is there anyone else who doenst really > feel like spending NYE seeing fruvous? or am i just > being blasphemous? the way i figure it, id rather > spend it with friends and family (not that i dont > consider you guys friends!) rather than in a crowded > place far from home with millions of stangers. I had to laugh at this. Here I'm hoping I'm going to be able to schedule a cross-country, multi-stop holiday trip that will land my butt in Times Square at midnight, Jan. 31. I don't think I could find a more crowded place further from home with more people--and it sounds like it would be a blast! (Especially after spending a few days in the Midwest with the entire extended family.) Wish me luck on the routing. It's pretty hard to get good flights to all the glamorous places I'm going to be visiting on that trip for less than $800. (Why can't my family live in an airline hub city?) Cookie I really, really need to get to work. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 1999 11:06:54 GMT From: fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) Subject: Re: SSSP Review >Vika said: >>"Jill Hufnagel" asked: >> >>>And are there Mike People? >> >>Yes. > >And if I'm not mistaken, they're called Fordyites. > >maria You sure that isn't Fordy-fides? ladywench FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . "For we can still love the world, who find a famished kitten on the step and know recesses for it from the fury of the street" - Hart Crane "Chaplinesque" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:01:53 GMT From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" Subject: Re: Mix 99.9 Thingy >For those wondering "how the heck did they get .fm? Shouldn't it be >.com or .ca or something?", .fm is Micronesia's (tiny little country >in the Pacific) Top Level Domain, and they're probably selling >domains within it like every other tiny little country with useful >TLD's is. (.to, .tv, .nu, .cx, etc...) AHA! It all makes sense now. >Wonder how many radio stations will figure this out and do it; most >of the ones I've seen have .com domains. One of the other Toronto radio stations has it too (the new Kiss 92.5 fm) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 1999 12:42:29 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Misplaced I have a question here and I apologize in advance because it may well have been answered in a previous thread, namely the one about what they've the most, but I can't seem to find it (please, Chad, don't cyber-beat me if I'm asking dumb question, LOL) ... Is there anything that Fruvous has recorded on one of their CDs (with possible exception so far of "Hate Letter") that, as far as anyone can tell, they HAVE NEVER played live? Just wondering ... happily, in my three-show swing I got to see/hear a lot of songs for the first time so now my "wish list" has been drastically reduced to reasonable "do"-ability (but I've also had to add "Youre Gonna Lose That Girl" to the list and I think my odds are bad for that one). L ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 1999 12:46:58 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: People poll (was: SSSP Review) I know we've had little straw-polls and surveys online before so I was wondering ... who wants to up and declare themselves as specific "whoever-people" just for sheer fun here? And I say this with the disclaimer that I assume that nearly everyone, like me, loves all four guys ... I think that we all tend to gravitate to one though for some reason (maybe it's elemental or whatever) ... My feeling basically is that Jian is the most entertaining and charming, Murray is the sexiest, Dave is the one I would love to sit down and talk to uninterrupted for a whole night (this may be because he's the one I've never met and he is just so appealing) but I am a Mike Person. He's the one I just enjoy watching the most when they're all on and he's just so damned nice. Adding in one other vote, my husband is definitely a Dave Person. I am willing to tally the votes here if anyone wants to do this. And I am sure there will be many who can't choose. Even with me, it's probably veered a few directions since I first saw them until I was ready -- after six shows -- to finally commit. (It took me less time to get engaged). QL ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 1999 13:29:11 GMT From: Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: yellow submarine *ONSLOW* does Pual's voice??!!! LOL!! That's *hilarious*!!! I have a copy of that movie, still in plastic - I should watch it sometime. :) Veronica (me loves "Keeping up Appearances"!) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 1999 13:07:07 GMT From: Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: OT: chad alleges Trace and Lori get lost easily Gee, lost in DC... now *that's* hard to do!! ...mayve that's just the bitterness of being horribly lost in the Southeast side this weekend (somewhere aroudn 4th Street, I think...) :) Veronica (who has finally, wisely invested in a map of DC!) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 1999 13:26:37 GMT From: Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Mix 99.9 appearance on Wednesday - details! Umm... change the www.mix999.com to www.mix999.fm and you're laughing! Also, the Mix started playing the single this weekend, supposedly in regular rotation. I have not heard it yet - I was busy getting lost and missing people and generally creating havoc in DC - but my aunt sent me a note with all of this via my sisters. :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:46:58 -0400 From: Geenius at Wrok Subject: Re: People poll (was: SSSP Review) On 23 Aug 1999, BBWMinors wrote: > I know we've had little straw-polls and surveys online before so I was > wondering ... who wants to up and declare themselves as specific > "whoever-people" just for sheer fun here? And I say this with the disclaimer > that I assume that nearly everyone, like me, loves all four guys ... I think > that we all tend to gravitate to one though for some reason (maybe it's > elemental or whatever) ... Well, yeah. I don't think I'd be such a fan of the band if I couldn't find something strong to like about all of them. In at least one respect, Früvous are -better- than the Beatles: All four of their personalities are front and center. Nobody ever shrinks into the background. That being said, at the "Ballad of B.J." show in Northampton, Murray's portions of the story were closest in style to what I might have written myself, were I a participant. I would love to know what the band members' personality types are. - -- "I wish EVERY day could be a shearing festival!" -- The 10 Commandments =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Keith Ammann is geenius@albany.net "I notice you have a cloud of doom. Live with honor, endure with grace I must admit it makes you seem www.albany.net/~geenius * Lun Yu 2:24 dangerous and sexy." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:26:42 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: Re: where do YOU buy cds? >All Moxy Fruvous albums released in the United States by Bottom >Line >Records are distributed by BMG. BMG is a MAJOR distributor and >if a >record store can't order things from BMG there must be something >insanely >wrong with them. Hey I got a question for you...If BMG distributes Moxy Fruvous then why can't you order them through their music service I have been wondering this for a long time now...I don't know why I have never asked. **Jiel** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:23:39 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: Re: where do YOU buy cds? >Please, if you go into a record store and don't see Fruvous >albums there, >ask. If they say they don't carry Fruvous, ask if they can order >them. >Even if you aren't intent on buying them, get the CDs in the >store >because someone else may see the umlaut and buy the CD expecting >another Dokken. And, well, the band was formed for the express >purpose of making those Dokken fans mad, you know? Yay I did the other day...I was i Borders with my friends Josh and kramer and I decided to check out there fruvous selection. What fruvous selection was what I found. So I went up and aked the punky little clerk guy about it and he said they could order them and I mean i have them all, but I told him that they should definitly order them. And this is the funniest part he was like "should we?" And he was serious...like I was pretending that they were a good bad. Well that my little story... **Jiel** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:54:16 GMT From: Melanie Subject: Re: Where do YOU buy CDs Check out MediaPlay. My local store has ALL the Moxy Fruvous CDs in stock--at least they did last week. I'm in Cincinnati. melanie "You know what you are Gonzo? Distinct!" Muppets from Space ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:39:43 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: Re: NYE and NYD >And yeah, if the world *is* going to end, or Y2K strikes and >we're all >stranded... I can't think of too many othere places I'd rather >be stuck. >Fiona OK the HELL YA"S are back for this one. I totally agree, but then I think I've already posted how I feel about NYE... **Jiel** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:49:10 GMT From: Groovy Spice Subject: Re: Searching for Ellen's MPG post hey, sorry for the delay in responding-- lisa, could you email me at ebuckley@asrr.arsusda.gov? you've probably found the post in the archive by now, but email me anyway. peace, ellen *************************************************** Airborne with nothing to land on... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:40:48 GMT From: Groovy Spice Subject: Re: Ramshead and stuff (long) In article , Lawrence P Solomon wrote: > We got in and I got to my seat... saw a lot of people (as usual) and > witnessed a very unspectacular opening act. So unspectacular that I > don't even know his name, his band, or what his album is called, or if > he even has an album. He didn't say much about that... haven't seen anything else in reponse to this, so i wanted to say.. hey! i thought he was pretty good. and for those in the DC area not aware, that was, unless i was hallucinating, jimmie of jimmie's chicken shack. i liked JCS as a loud dance band fairly well before; i have new respect for them now after hearing acoustic JCS. ;) > deposited a violin on top of the congas. This got us all thinking, > since there aren't exactly a lot of Fruvous songs where the live > arrangements contain violin... well... i missed this totally. i didn't know the violin was there until i ran into wendy in the restroom during sad girl (hey i *had* to pee, ok?) and she told me it was there. at that point, i crossed every available appendage until jian started telling the misplaced story. whee! as an aside, the misplaced story was another example of me feeling like i know a little more about this band than i really want to (the classic one is IOYK-- i loved it when it was an occasional treat, but could never help feeling that i was reading an incredibly personal and intimate letter from a man to his wife... knowing who the two people are makes me feel a bit like an intruder, and hearing it all the time causes it to lose some of the intimacy, for me). like, it was enough to know that Misplaced was about a person looking back on a failed relationship-- i'm not sure how i feel about knowing the details of how said relationship failed. music is, to a certain extent, an escape vehicle, and knowing that the subject of the song was a woman jian dated during the bargainville era and that he dumped her unceremoniously and knowing her name and so on and so on... well, it brings the reality of the song crashing in. Misplaced was, and honestly still is, one of my favorite fruvous songs, but it has changed a little for me now. does anyone else feel like this? > It was a > sad story, of how the tour helped end what had been a great > relationship, and the song Misplaced came out of that experience. the way you tell it is the way i wish jian had told it. if that makes any sense. > Then we were treated to Downsizing, with Dave doing an > *excellent* job on the slide guitar. i loved the slide guitar during DS. rock on. whew... i've been gone since 6AM thursday, and there's just way too much to recall from wednesday night. wednesday was one of those shows where any semblance of veteran cool goes right out the window and i just sit there and bounce up and down in my chair. it was a mellow show to be sure, but i heard a handful of things i'd never heard before and had been longing to hear. also, i brought a friend who'd never seen fruvous before, and a new fan was made by the end of the night. from an exclusively thornhill/wood set. imagine that. if i were *more* of a smartass [1], i'd stick my thumbs in my ears and waggle my fingers at the band and say "told ya so." ;) way to much to catch up on at work. what am i doing here? *sigh* peace, ellen [1] hey, it could happen. *************************************************** Airborne with nothing to land on... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:40:58 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: where do YOU buy cds? Jill Hufnagel wrote: > Hey I got a question for you...If BMG distributes Moxy Fruvous then why > can't you order them through their music service I have been wondering this > for a long time now...I don't know why I have never asked. There's a difference between BMG the manufacturing and distribution plant and BMG the mail order CD place. They are probably all but completely separate companies. I don't know if Bottom Line uses BMG to manufacture their CDs, but they are using them for distribution. BMG the mail order place probably just sells discs that manufacturing presses a whole lot of. They can cheaply add more to the run and sell them closer to cost to compete with retail and Columbia House. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:22:36 GMT From: hugh@fruhead.com (Hugh Miller) Subject: Re: Don Dixon On Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:27:11 GMT, Brent & Marianne Miller wrote: >I've got a stack of R.E.M. CD's in front of me, so here's >some info right from the liner notes: > >Murmur 1983 Produced by Mitch Easter and Don Dixon >Document 1987 Produced by Scott Litt and R.E.M. >Fable of the Reconstruction 1985 Produced by Joe Boyd >Green 1988 Produced by Scott Litt & R.E.M. >Out of Time 1991 Produced by Scott Litt & R.E.M. >New Adventures in Hi-Fi 1996 Produced by Scott Litt & R.E.M. >Monster 1994 Produced by Scott Litt & R.E.M. >UP 1998 Produced by Pat McCarthy and R.E.M. > >...just for the record. Yes, this is important. But he (and Easter) also produced the second (and IMHO best) REM album, "Reckoning" (1995). REM should've kept him and never hooked up with Litt. Listen to a track on "Reckoning" called "Don't Go Back to Rockville". At the beginning is a brief studio outtake of Bill Berry and Peter Buck noodling and Stipe crooning "Gettin' in the mood!" in his Elvis voice. Very Thornhill. Ciao, H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:11:37 -0400 From: Uncle Waltie Subject: Re: where do YOU buy cds? SugarFly26 wrote: > > ::groan:: okay...i think im giving up on stores carrying fruvous. where do you > guys buy fruvous cds? please dont say concerts...there has to be somewhere > else...i get to so few concerts, id be buying thornhill and everyone else would > be buying their 25th cd or something. (dont laugh, we all know theyre gonna be > around for a long time... :) i only have bargainville and live noise tapes, > and both through a friend. ::sigh:: anybody??? > tankums. My town in notorious for not having many independent record stores left. I bought all my MF cds at Coconuts, who had Thornhill on the release date, but Live Noise either sold out before I could get it or it didn't come in until later. - -walt - -- It's wrong to wish on space hardware. -Billy Bragg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:59:03 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Misplaced BBWMinors wrote: > Is there anything that Fruvous has recorded on one of their CDs (with possible > exception so far of "Hate Letter") that, as far as anyone can tell, they HAVE > NEVER played live? Until last October I believe they (Dave actually) had never played Lee live in public. Unless they did it at one of the Bole gigs I don't think they've ever played Bed and Breakfast live. (God knows why.) I've never heard of Big Fish being played or Jenny Washington for that matter (Photosynthesis doesn't count). At Frucon I Mike said that Cedric Fruvous had never been played publicly before, but then I think he was corrected and somebody (Murray or Jian) said that they'd played it once in Halifax or somewhere else like that. (I'm too lazy to dig out the tape). I don't think they've ever played Entropy live. I think that is it actually. Other than those, Morphee, and Hate Letter I've actually seen them play all of their published works at least once. I guess patience pays off. Now guys, how about Bed and Breakfast? A.J. - -- Mariaweb last updated 5/13/99. See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:19:30 GMT From: "Cameron Ross" Subject: Re: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #728 >So you agree, everyone knows that all Canadians are Aliens. Hockey pucks are >really flying saucers. >Feanole aka DrWhoFru Exactly! All those foolish people who 'put' the glowing lights around the puck were just tired of having to hide them all the time - - Life101 - I *can* post on-topic.... really I can... :) "I get lost and found so many times in a day" Andrea Florian - -=( http://www.mental.nu/~life101 | ICQ:39307347 )=- ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #733 ********************************************