From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #727 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, August 21 1999 Volume 03 : Number 727 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Annapolis show [Lynne ] RE: a little question [Melanie ] Re: Murray's Dead?! ["VINCENT G. CICILLINI" ] Re: A new fan here...hello! ["Kate Leahy" ] OT: For All You Bass Fans [Melanie ] Re: Annapolis show [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: Annapolis show [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: Fruvous + F'Loom?? [hugh@fruhead.com (Hugh Miller)] Re: Doctor Who and Fru ["VINCENT G. CICILLINI" ] Re: Ramshead and stuff (long) [trace@frumail.org (Trace)] Re: Weighing In on Thornhill [piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO)] Re: 80's music was Re: OT: pet shop boys [Leah Bridgers ] Abbey Road's Thornhill [auerworld@followme.com] Re: Harbourfront (was: Re: A new fan here...hello!) [Loren Becker ] Re: TIC: Fruvous Violence [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot ] A message from Richard number 2!!!! [rchappo@aol.com (RChappo)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:20:26 GMT From: Lynne Subject: Re: Annapolis show Hey I went to Thornwood Elementary School.. :) In NY lynne & .02 >Briefly because I'm so tired my eyes are rolling my head, yes, it was >what Ellen and I dubbed "Thornwood" ... all "Thornhill" and "Wood." I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:14:16 GMT From: Melanie Subject: RE: a little question Katie (phillyfru9) wrote: >So now I am asking you...if you could ask the frulads any >question what would it be??? I'd ask, "How would you define success?" or "Isn't it true that Moxy Fruvous is really a front to position Mike Ford for a run at the U.S. presidency?" (Assuming Kate Leahy is right about his place of birth.) melanie "You know what you are Gonzo? Distinct!" Muppets from Space ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:33:53 GMT From: "VINCENT G. CICILLINI" Subject: Re: Murray's Dead?! On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Ken Perschke wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just like Time, the rest of the band is simply a persistent illusion. > > > > > > -Joe > > > > as in "time is an illusion. lunchtime doubly so." perhaps? 8-) > > ciao--vc > > Very deep! Get that from readers digest? (they have a page for people like > that, you know) :) > > Sorry, couldn't resist! 42! lol! thanks, ken! 8-) ciao--vc __________________________________________________ "others take TO dave. in this band, we take FROM dave." -- mike ford, 6/15/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:07:09 -0400 From: "Kate Leahy" Subject: Re: A new fan here...hello! >Hmmm... Sarah Slean is a Toronto artist, isn't she? I like her lots >too, especially when the Cello player is there. She may have some >dates in and around Toronto as well. Yep, yep. I like her lots too. She just put out her first CD. It's called "Blue Parade." She's also doing some touring, I believe. Check out http://www.sarahslean.com for info and stuffs. ~~Kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@fruhead.com *********************************** "It's a long long road It's a big big world We are wise wise women We are giggling girls . . . " - --Ani DiFranco *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:24:08 GMT From: Melanie Subject: OT: For All You Bass Fans I heard this on NPR's All Things Considered yesterday. "A symphony orchestra was scheduled to play Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. Since the bass players only had parts at the beginning and the end, they didn't want to have to hang around for the whole piece. So they asked the conductor if they could leave after the opening and return in time for the ending. The conductor, being an obliging person, agreed. So after the opening, the two bass players slipped out and went to the tavern across the street. After tipping several beers, one asked the other if they shouldn't be heading back. "Don't worry," said the second, "they won't finish without us." He explained that he'd stuck last two pages of the conductor's score together. "I tied the pages together really tight with some string." So they continued on and tipped a few more. Then they staggered back to the symphony hall. Sure enough, when they got there, the orchestra was poised, the conductor was frantically trying to get the pages of the score apart, and the audience was on the edge of their seats. Why? It was the bottom of the 9th, the score was tied, and the basses were loaded. melanie "You know what you are Gonzo? Distinct!" Muppets from Space ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 17:51:36 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Annapolis show chad schrock said: >This is why I said that they like MD better. >We get better sets. :) Listen to Jian, darling. :) - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 17:54:17 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Annapolis show Queen Lisa queried: >When Jian told the story behind "Misplaced" (yes, >they played it!!!!!!!!!), who yelled out something to the effect of "Now I'm >starting to hate the song!" I LMAO in online lingo and am just curious who it >was if you/they are willing to speak up That Person is A Troublemaker. That's all I have to say. :) But she throws great slumber parties. ;) - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:45:58 GMT From: hugh@fruhead.com (Hugh Miller) Subject: Re: Fruvous + F'Loom?? On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:58:57 -0400, Paul Mischler wrote: >Jim, the concert was the Milestones Concert, in Rochester on 8/10. The >reviews are available on-line from: >http://www.fruvous.com/99rev/990810a.html > >As for tape trading, I don't know who you could ask... although I'm sure >your post will bring you offers ;-) > >-Paul Mischler > >Jim Moskowitz wrote: > >> When did it happen? Did they do anything together? Most importantly, >> does _anyone_ have a tape of it? I can at least trade the tape I made >> yesterday morning of their appearance on WXPN here in Philadelphia. F'loom also performed at Blue Skies the night after MF. I think the Thornhillers had already left for their nexr gig by then, though. Wonderful band, F'loom. Ciao, H. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:40:58 GMT From: "VINCENT G. CICILLINI" Subject: Re: Doctor Who and Fru On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Gordon Nash wrote: > > > >Wow - what a cool expression! For some reason, "Whovian Frühead" just > >blends beautifully!! > > > >If only I knew what the HELL it means! Is it a Dr. Who reference, or a > >Dr. ZEUSS reference!?!? > > Its a Dr who Reference. Who is Dr Zeuss? Is that from Planet of the Apes? > Feanole aka DrWhoFru i believe that was Dr. Zaius (sp?). i liked josh's description for dr. zuess. 8-) i'm so glad that no one was here (at work) when i read that one. i fell off my chair. thanks josh! ciao--vc _______________________________________________________ "others take TO dave. in this band we take FROM dave." -- mike ford, 6/15/99 ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 17:48:13 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: AOL user's guide to the newsreader (was: Re: Killer Tent Lyrics??????????) Erin asked: > is there any way you can view this newsgoup without crowding your >mailbox? I'm kinda new to the subject as a whole Erin, welcome to amm-f! Glad you found your way to our wacky little pocket of the web! As an aol dot completelyscrewedupserver user you DO have one rather neat little gadget at your disposal called a newsreader. It is A Good Thing(tm), and I recommend it over the email process at all times. To access it, go to keyword: newsgroups. Then go to: add newsgroups. Then search the alt.music newsgroups for alt.music.moxy-fruvous and subscribe. Bingo! You now have actual discussion threads at your disposal, rather than a mishmash of unrelated posts, and you can reply to posts and have them appear IN a thread, in fact close to the post you're answering, rather than separated out because you're emailing. And you can give yourself a nifty spam trap, and choose your reading preferences, and if you're inclined to the occasional power trip you can apply killfiles and other Evil Arrogant Things, and enjoy all sorts of other mid-nineties technological benefits. :P - -- Lori, committed to helping others navigate their way through AOHell. (Or maybe I should just say, "committed." :) ) Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~ ~^~ ^~^~^~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~^~^~ ^~^~^~ ^~^~^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 18:10:22 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Ramshead and stuff (long) Lawrence wrote a great review, which Val and Trace dramatically read aloud to me, alternating paragraphs, at 3 am when we got in from the RH, and then said: >other stuff... very little banter, but when they went onto some tangent, >it lasted quite a while. someone else can tell you what all they talked >about. :) The general banter themes of the evening were: musicals, television shows, and picking on Jian for his "Misplaced" story. Poor guy got it from the audience AND the band. :) There was other stuff too, but at this point all of last week has turned into a gigantic runny smooshed-up pile of blissful goo in my mind, with individual moments probably never to be recovered, yet the total effect always to be treasured. And on that subject, may I mention that after 7 days, 2 festivals, 4 (other) live shows, 1 radio show, 2 main-attraction bands, 1400 miles logged on the FruCar, and way too much caffeine, sugar, and giggling, I have even MORE respect for what these guys do week in and week out? We didn't have to do anything but follow them around and keep ourselves alive -- they had to actually WORK! And they still find the energy to go so far beyond the job, and give us what anyone else would quite justifiably consider private time, or rest time, or unwinding time. I am in awe. - -- Lori *************** I'm all right, look what I'm drivin' ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 18:55:22 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: A new fan here...hello! chad suggested >As far as other Canadian bands to check out on CD, I'll recommend >the Rheostatics. I like them, though I don't hear them mentioned much >around here. They have a lot of discs out. I think I started with >Double Live, a 2 disc collection of live material. , i like rheostatics Alot, but i dont recomend starting with double live. that album is a little too much to swallow right off the bat. i had trouble warming up to it. i suggest starting with introducing happiness. it's easier to stomach. at least to me. smiles genna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:20:09 -0400 From: "Kate Leahy" Subject: Re: A new fan here...hello! >Yep, yep. I like her lots too. She just put out her first CD. It's called >"Blue Parade." I hate having to semi-correct myself :). "Blue Parade" is Sarah's second CD, but first full-length album. She also made an EP called "Universe." That's really good too, and, I believe, includes a really nifty cover of a Radiohead song :). ~~Kate, hopping on her own errors before others do :) - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@fruhead.com *********************************** "It's a long long road It's a big big world We are wise wise women We are giggling girls . . . " - --Ani DiFranco *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:33:02 GMT From: trace@frumail.org (Trace) Subject: Re: Ramshead and stuff (long) On 21 Aug 1999 18:10:22 GMT, Lori nearly kickstarted my short-term memories when she said, > >There was other stuff too, but at this point all of last week has turned into a >gigantic runny smooshed-up pile of blissful goo in my mind, with individual >moments probably never to be recovered, yet the total effect always to be >treasured. Ditto. Someone needs to post and remind me of what I've forgotten over the past week. Like, where have I been, and why was that blonde lady with the shaker eggs following me. > >And on that subject, may I mention that after 7 days, 2 festivals, 4 (other) >live shows, 1 radio show, 2 main-attraction bands, 1400 miles logged on the >FruCar, and way too much caffeine, sugar, and giggling, I have even MORE >respect for what these guys do week in and week out? We didn't have to do >anything but follow them around and keep ourselves alive -- they had to >actually WORK! And they still find the energy to go so far beyond the job, and >give us what anyone else would quite justifiably consider private time, or rest >time, or unwinding time. I am in awe. What she said. It was Hell Week (tm), the band was wretched, I still haven't recovered, we beat the heck out of Lori's car, and I'm still grinning. Thanks guys! It was certainly a hell of a week. - -- Trace trace@frumail.org "Part of a new, emerging feminist movement." ~Jian commenting on his Brittany Spears t-shirt: 7/24/99 Crisis, Get Help ~Anagram of "The Spice Girls" ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 20:19:00 GMT From: piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO) Subject: Re: Weighing In on Thornhill Quoth the Zardly one: > We know what they've done in the past, but "Fru-ness", >being exuded by living beings, must by its nature be an ever-evolving thing. >Thus, the Fru-peoples themselves are the only definition of Fru-ness. Ergo, >what they are creating is the most Fru stuff that is available. Whether or >not it fits your idea of Fru. > Ohhhhhhh..... my head hurts! Angel *going to see Weird Al tonight!!* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:44:30 -0400 From: Leah Bridgers Subject: Re: 80's music was Re: OT: pet shop boys This is fabulous! Songs I haven't thought about in ages! Thanks, that was fun! Leah Shilfiell Nels Rada wrote: > > I just > finished trimming the answers out of the quiz and threw it on this web > page: > > http://home.eznet.net/~ksucy/80squiz.html > > Check it out, and write to me if you need the answers! > > -kimberly > -still owns parachute pants (3 pair) ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 20:33:01 GMT From: piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO) Subject: Don Dixon When we were told he was the producer of Thronhill, he was promoted by the fact that he'd worked with Matthew Sweet. After I lstened to Thornhill a few times, and realized that the production of *some* of the tunes was the only thing that was really bothering me (and is it because I don't like the "vision," or does it sound too 'indie' to to sound good blasted on radio stations?I dunno), I checked back amidst my VAST collection of Mr. Sweet's work. And as I suspected, Dixon produced *one* cut on Matthew's first solo CD. In 1986.((which is a fun one to have because it's got this great songwriter doing what was popular in the mainstream at the time- lots of keyboards and synth and stuff--but this is beside the point)) And it was actually co-produced by another guy with Dixon. Anyway, does anyone know what work he did with the Smithereens? And if he's done anything else, say a lot of indie/college radio type stuff lately? Angel Favorite Fruproducer: Michael Koppelman :) ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 21:23:34 GMT From: hallofeyes@aol.com (Jordan Q. Doe) Subject: Re: 80's music was Re: OT: pet shop boys Wow...Ive barely posted here and already my post about what Mike wrote on his notes started a whole new thread (or from the subject, 2 new threads?) This is weird. I like this ng...though once school starts it will be harder to keep up.. Hmm just to add some MOXY to my post I'll say on Thornhill I really love Dave's vocals in You Can't Be Too Careful ("...Woody Allen for the DIAlogue.."). And I love love If Only You Knew.. Jordan "My father calls them "grandma's cookies" but grandma's dead"-Matthew Koff "Clock in my head, clock on the wall, and the two of them don't agree at all"- XTC "Nice holes!"- Andy Partridge of XTC, after putting his fingers in my ears. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:24:02 GMT From: ross_hendry@bigfoot.com (Ross Hendry) Subject: Re: Are You "Alt"? On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:56:10 -0500, Josh Drury wrote: > > >Gruneberg Veronica J wrote: > >> Oh lord, I'm feeling old... you've never heard of the Pet Shop Boys??!!! >> And now that I've said that, can I think of a single one of their cheesy >> 80's songs? Nooooooo..... > >"Go West" -- was that one? or was it a cheesy '90's song? > >Josh Drury >Winnipeg > 93 according to the back of the tape. :-) Ross It's the Galaxies Greatest Comic, Now check out it's web site! http://www.cybergoth.net/tuws/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:22:53 GMT From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" Subject: Harbourfront (was: Re: A new fan here...hello!) >From: Chad Maloney >Lessee. You may want to check out Tory Cassis while you are in Toronto. >I think he plays regularly at C'est What? and the Reservoir. I've >been to the Reservoir before and it's a very nice place. Tory also >just released his first CD. I highly recommend him. There was a CD review in the Arts section of the Toronto Star today for Tory's new CD (never heard him, but it got a great review!). Anyways, the review mentioned he would be playing at Harbourfront this Thursday. Anyone know anything about this? Is he opening? Or playing somewhere else? Or a misprint? Also, anyone know what's happening on Thursday? FDC says the show starts at 8:30. An ad I saw a few weeks ago in a paper said the show started at 9:00. But an ad I saw in last week's Eye Magazine said the show was at 8:00. That's up to an hour's difference in times! (not that it matters too much since I'm going straight from work, but I'd like an idea of how much time I have to eat dinner, etc!) Sara ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:44:57 GMT From: Lynne Subject: Re: 12 step program (fwd) You will go to the Moon, WHen SHe talks, Present Tense Tureen are usually on my repeat.. or play-rewind-play in the car :) - -lynne > How does one know when one's played out Fruvous? (shh, it's only temporary). > I think i have, and decided to go on a weeklong cross between a diet and a 12 > step program, :0) hoping i might one day listen to michy like for the first > time. anyway, it's four days into my "program" and i find i'm listening to > "you will go to the moon" (song) on repeat. has anyone else gone throughs > something like this? :) > -mm- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:59:48 GMT From: auerworld@followme.com Subject: Abbey Road's Thornhill I've had a copy of THORNHILL since Falcon Ridge. My first impression was that it was too "over produced", didn't "capture" the spirit of a live Fruvous show and didn't really work for me.... After listening to it a couple of times it started to grow on me and I found myself enjoying the new music.... I didn't listen to it for a while but put it on again after returning from The Pines show in NoHo....... It finally hit me that THORNHILL was the best Beatles album to be released in years (that IS a compliment..... DON'T DIS THE BEATLES)...... If you listen with the Beatles in mind, you can even realize which of the Fab Four would be singing lead on which of the THORNHILL songs)....... BTW, when the band accompanied Dan Bern in Northampton there was a real electricity between them all...... Look for possible joint recordings in the new year (and as they used to say "And remember you heard it first right here on Roller Derby")...... Enjoy the shows....... George, just north of Steeles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:27:48 -0400 From: Loren Becker Subject: Re: Harbourfront (was: Re: A new fan here...hello!) Sara said: > There was a CD review in the Arts section of the Toronto Star today for > Tory's new CD (never heard him, but it got a great review!). Anyways, the > review mentioned he would be playing at Harbourfront this Thursday. Anyone > know anything about this? Is he opening? Or playing somewhere else? Or a > misprint? Tory is opening for most if not all of the Fruvous gigs in Canada this Fall (lucky Canadians). Check out www.crosswinds.net/toronto/~tcassis for more info on him and do check out his album, released August 17th north of the border. He's played with the boys before at various Toronto area shows, as well as traveling with them to a few in the States in years past (here's hoping for a recurrence of that). He's should also be playing his weekly gig at the Reservoir Lounge (check NOW listings for details). The weekly C'est What gig, however, came to an end in June. /l ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 22:56:21 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Borders L- Street reviews (quick) While greeting Mind, Nicole the wonder nerd committed Words on Screen (~ooooooo!~) >Library >of all things Frü, conveniently located at http://www.fruvous.com . >Not as atmospheric as a long-forgotten Gothic monastery with parchment >scrolls and eerie candlelit shadows, but you won't have to worry about >bugs eating the parchment or deranged librarian monks chasing you with >axes, either. *ahem* p'raps I shouldn't mention what/who Mind *does* have to worry about ... >Better living through technology, says I. >--nicole the wonder nerd >who is in a silly mood. who could tell? >"Never chase anyone off a cliff."--from Due South see, she's got good taste. >Visit Nicolopolis! >http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn yes, do. All of you who haven't, do so. Now. I mean it! GRRR! Nicole's site is so much loopy informative fun, I'm thinking of sigging it. But then I wouldn't have room to plug my own, and i'm not THAT altruistic. :P - -- Lori, who is NEVER in a silly mood. Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~ ~^~ ^~^~^~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~^~^~ ^~^~^~ ^~^~^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:46:21 -0400 From: "Kate Leahy" Subject: Re: Abbey Road's Thornhill auerworld@followme.com wrote in message ... > > I've had a copy of THORNHILL since Falcon Ridge. My first >impression was that it was too "over produced", didn't "capture" the >spirit of a live Fruvous show and didn't really work for me.... After >listening to it a couple of times it started to grow on me and I found >myself enjoying the new music.... I didn't listen to it for a while but >put it on again after returning from The Pines show in NoHo....... Since Falcon Ridge? Hmm. Musta picked it up in a used store or some such thing :). At any rate, I don't think this "doesn't capture the spirit of a live Früvous show" stuff really makes sense when talking about an album like Thornhill, mostly because I don't think that's the intention. Live Noise was intended to recreate the energy of a live Früvous show. I think albums like Thornhill and You Will Go to the Moon (less so with Wood) are more Pet Sounds-esque projects; opportunities to experiment with studio effects and sound rather than recreate a live atmosphere. > > It finally hit me that THORNHILL was the best Beatles album >to be released in years (that IS a compliment..... DON'T DIS THE >BEATLES)...... If you listen with the Beatles in mind, you can even >realize which of the Fab Four would be singing lead on which of the >THORNHILL songs)....... While Thornhill is certainly permeated with Beatles influence, it is by no means a Beatles album. "Hate Letter" and "Earthquakes" comes to mind. While clever lyrics and solid musicianship are Beatles hallmarks, this album is Früvous through and through. > > BTW, when the band accompanied Dan Bern in Northampton >there was a real electricity between them all...... Look for possible >joint recordings in the new year (and as they used to say "And remember >you heard it first right here on Roller Derby")...... *nod* Früvous and Dan Bern also played together during this past New Year's run and while it was interesting, i wouldn't deem it electrified. Früvous seems to have a great deal of respect for Dan Bern, though I've heard nothing about collaborations. Früvous did, however, record with the Nields last Sunday - can't wait to hear that :). ~~Kate ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 23:04:26 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: TIC: Fruvous Violence Chad muttered: >Mur's instramentalling 'nother Frünglish word! who's keeping that list? - -- Lori, Queen of Verbiage ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 1999 23:14:34 GMT From: rchappo@aol.com (RChappo) Subject: A message from Richard number 2!!!! Hello again everyone! I want to thank you all for the good advice and information that you have given me on all things Moxy and Toronto in general. I am really looking forward to my visit to Canada next week and am looking forward to hearing some fine music when I get there. Thank you again and hoping I meet some of you at the Harbourfront! Richard '2' (Nottingham, UK) to save confusion you can call me 'Chappo' from now on *G* ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #727 ********************************************