From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #701 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, August 15 1999 Volume 03 : Number 701 Today's Subjects: ----------------- XXX Fucking Pics [qqouvs@yahoo.com] Re: Problems.....! [sittin'onthecouch@home.com (The Toolman)] Re: Am I crazy? ["Ken Perschke" ] Philly Folk Fest - Sun. schedule? ["Valerie Jones" ] Re: Weighing In on Thornhill ["KatieWow" ] Re: The Balad of My Poor Generation [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: OT: the language of sesame [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: Am I crazy? [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review [serra44@aol.com (Serra44)] Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review ["KatieWow" ] Re: Weighing In on Thornhill [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] MAYBE two tix available for Rams Head [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? [michykith@aol.com (Michykith)] Re: Am I crazy? [mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie)] Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review [mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksi] Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review [StarflashJ@aol.com] Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review [Melanie Natoli I bought the definitions T-shirt last night at the seaport show and it has a >bunch of holes in it.... does anyone happen to know what i can do to get a >short w/out holes? I called Sam Goody and they said that the T-shirt sails >weren't through them! If anyone could help, i'd totally appreciate it! > > > >~*Jen*~ Contact Judith Coombe at MF Management..look on the web page (www.fruvous.com) for return info. She's a peach, and will usually get it going for you in short order..she exchanged my Frü-Jersey without a problem. Look on the FAQ on the web page for info regarding contacting her. Tim, Robin and Kelsey the Wonder-Weasel "Moxy Who?" -The uninitiated ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:13:11 -0400 From: "Ken Perschke" Subject: Re: Am I crazy? > After reading several posts reviewing the south street seaport show, I noticed > that nobody included You Will Go to the Moon in the setlist. I could swear > they sang it. Am I losing my mind? (I know that happens with age) > Good point!! They did indeed sing it, after Johnny Saucep'n. A few points of my own about the show: The sound was not at all good. I was right up front, stage Dave/Mike, and it was too loud and very muddy. As a result, some songs sounded very off to me, particularly IWHO. The mix, from what I could hear, was terrible. There was almost no guitar or bass, so it sounded, from where I was, like Jian singing acapella with no backup. They really nailed Splatter Splatter. Faster than the album version, with only straight distortion on the guitar (see my thornhill review). The Peking of Spain tease was great! As much as it usually gets to me when the crowd seems to only know King, it really worked. Dave screwed up and sang the wrong chorus after the first verse ("oh my unspeakable wife queen Lisa..."), prompting the crowd to start the song over again screaming "1-2-3-4!" This was probably the highlight of the evening for me. I'm just disappointed they won't be back in NYC until December :( Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:34:02 GMT From: "Valerie Jones" Subject: Philly Folk Fest - Sun. schedule? i checked out the PFF page & can't find früvous on sunday's schedule ... though they're listed on FDC as appearing sat. & sun. does anyone know the scoop? maybe they're being added to a workshop? ~v~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:44:57 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Weighing In on Thornhill >Again I agree. The perfect example is When She Talks. People should be careful >about dismissing this song out-of-hand. I think it clearly means something important >to the band because they have invested a great deal of time and effort in perfecting >it, even in the face of some fans who have been saying that it is basically a dud of >a song. *nod* *nod* *nod* Too many people talk about this song like it's some kind of Jian tour de force. I don't perceive it that way at all. Dave said in Philly in February "This is a sweet, sweet song." Obviously the other three think it's worth something. I was talking with a friend at the Seaport about "When She Talks," and she mentioned that she had overheard someone in Philly that night make the comment "Are they serious?" Well, yeah, they are. I don't know that any one of them isn't completely serious about even their least serious songs. Even if you don't like it a song, you can't devalue it - it came from somewhere, y'know? ~~Kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@fruhead.com *********************************** "It's a long long road It's a big big world We are wise wise women We are giggling girls . . . " - --Ani DiFranco *********************************** A.J. LoCicero wrote in message <37B59B3D.B75078B7@wwnet.com>... ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 23:02:44 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: The Balad of My Poor Generation >I like that parts too... we were listening to the album on the way back >from Rochester, and I thought they were frogs at first =) >Leah when i read that i thought leah ment that she thought they were RUBBING FROGS TOGETHER!!!!! AHHHHH>.... on a more serious note about MPG. i really like that song too. i realize of course that i am not of the generation that they speak of. i'm not a gen-xer but rather a card carrying member of the "generation after gen-x" hmmm...gen-y? no, we dont have a name yet. without a name we are left to wonder if we have an identity. we are defined to the elders by such entities as MTV. feared slightly because of such events as the recent the school shootings. we are the poor misguided generation. with information up to our belly buttons. drowned in information. facts and statistics and technology. it seems we can do everything when its our turn...and do it fast. too fast. in a world where job loyalty is no longer an option, where more than half of the marrages end in divorce, where ADHD is over-diargnosed and children put on ridalin this world is too conserned with speading up...a world moving so quickly...the meaning of it all get's lost in the shuffle. we are lost. just as lost as Gen-x. as dave matheson pointed out, this song is about irony. about how we DO have everything. we are all middle class members of 1st world countries (yes, we are all middle class...we all have computers) and we whine about what we dont have. lament over what we're missing... maybe we're just missing meaning... ~genna (who wonders if we were to rub shiny rattlesnakes together, would they sound like frogs??) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 00:07:39 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: OT: the language of sesame lisa asked ><Schecter...bla...>> > >The one in Queens? My best friend (when I was in high school) went there! nope, the one in commack (on LI) but it's part of the same chain-o-schools smiles genna ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 00:02:12 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: Am I crazy? >After reading several posts reviewing the south street seaport show, I >noticed >that nobody included You Will Go to the Moon in the setlist. I could swear >they sang it. Am I losing my mind? (I know that happens with age) they did sing it!! i'm a dork and can NOT remember setlists...though if they are told to me, i can remember what happend during the songs, so i just took the setlist from the first review that was up there and elaborated. sorry smiles genna ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 00:17:11 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review >>Anoher theme was Jian starting with "You know what pisses me off?" Of >>course, >>now I forget exactly what did piss him off, but it was amusing at the time. he started like this several times. the bathroom one started. "i was in the batheroom, and you know what pissed me off" to which murray (i think it was murray at least) interupted to say "pissed you off...in the bathroom...i know where THIS is going" and jian said "you have no idea where this is going then went into musak" smiles genna ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 00:04:10 GMT From: serra44@aol.com (Serra44) Subject: Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review >Anoher theme was Jian starting with "You know what pisses me off?" Of >course, >now I forget exactly what did piss him off, but it was amusing at the time. > He was talking about the Muzak in the bathrooms. He's right- It *WAS* heinous. And he and I must have been inside at the same time, 'cause he mentioned "Still the One" and I recalled hearing that when I had gone inside for a potty trip as well. No, I didn't see him. ::sniff:: Anyway, that's my Fruvous $0.02. "Reality is an illusion, albeit a persistent one." -Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:19:52 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review >He was talking about the Muzak in the bathrooms. He's right- It *WAS* heinous. >And he and I must have been inside at the same time, 'cause he mentioned "Still >the One" and I recalled hearing that when I had gone inside for a potty trip as >well. No, I didn't see him. ::sniff:: Anyway, that's my Fruvous $0.02. >"Reality is an illusion, albeit a persistent one." -Albert Einstein This part I actually was paying attention for :). They were piping the same music outside where I was trying to read (Toni Morrison's *Paradise* to be specific). He mentioned that they were playing a muzak version of the Eagles' "Desperado." He wondered why it was necessary to even *make* a muzak version of "Desperado," seeing as how it's a slow, easy-tempoed song to begin with. He missed the most heinous piece of muzak of the evening, though - the muzak version of Elvis Costello's "Veronica." Yech. ~~Kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@fruhead.com *********************************** "It's a long long road It's a big big world We are wise wise women We are giggling girls . . . " - --Ani DiFranco *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 00:27:50 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Weighing In on Thornhill I will try to make my two cents very brief (a challenge to all who know me) ... I spent about six hours today cleaning/scrubbing/scouring my kitchen and played "Thornhill" through about seven times while doing so. I really liked it a lot the first time through (a few days ago) and it continues to grow on me each time I hear it ... out of 12 songs, I love 10 of them, a damn good ratio. Before the album's release I had heard six, so six more were new, another good balance I think. While ther may not be any songs that rival "Gulf War" or "Fly" at this point on my favorite Fruvous song list, I would have to call it my favorite album (tied maybe with Bargainville) simply for the huge percentage of how many songs I really like-growing-into-love. But I will add that anyone who DOESN"T see the "Beatlesque" qualities may be too young to have really listened to the Beatles. To me, Beatlesque is a supreme compliment (remember, before I had FRUHEAD for a license plate I had RUBRSOL). The funny thing is that while most people refer to the ballads as Beatlesque, there may not be any song as reminiscent of that "Yesterday-and-Today/Revolver" period as "Half as Much." By the way, is this a first Frudegreen for the album? I thought the lyrics in "Downsizing" were "irrelevance pays." And by the way that song is truly awesome. I have also found, regarding "When She Talks," that while I am not crazy about the lyrics, the music/harmonies/etc. grow on me more and more each time I hear it. OK. Enough. For me, that's short (smile) ... suffice to say I can't wait for Wednesday (at Rams Head, Table 105, may even have an extra ticket or two, not sure yet) and Thursday for both instores with FruPrincess Dana and maybe a surprise guest (Mindy, you reading this?????) QL aka FruMommy I ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 01:09:33 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: MAYBE two tix available for Rams Head So here's the situation ... the couple we were supposed to bring with us and defruginate can't make it to the Wednesday, August 18 show at the Rams Head. But there's another couple (who actually turned US on to Fruvous) who may or may not have already bought their tickets ... my husband wants to invite them first. If they can't make it or else already have their tix, we will have two seats available at Table 105 (good seats) ... if anyone out there is a set of two people looking for tix (or looking to upgrade their bad seats) e-mail me at bbwminors@aol.com ... I can't make any definite decision until I find out about this other couple but should know by Monday ... It would be just face value for the tix, of course ... incidentally, we also have the reservations for dinner at the Rams Head (10 percent off plus preferred parking), where they come take us to our table so there's no waiting on line ... whoever comes with us is more than welcome to join us for dinner as well!!! 21 and over please ... otherwise I'd be bringing FruChild and her FruDude. Queen Lisa sounding like a bad TV infomercial that you hear at 4 a.m. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 01:43:06 GMT From: michykith@aol.com (Michykith) Subject: Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? >Don't go getting yourself grounded for even longer, young lady! We'd like >to >see you before the Millenium! (the Fruvous one, not the Real one ;) ) > > That's true, but it was so great to hear from our darling Deb!! Geez, I miss you already and you've only been offline since Thursday!! Missed you terribly in NYC last night, but it was a great show nonetheless. I totally dug Disco Bargainville. But my fave moment of the night was Dave and Murray breaking into that "Dress you up in my love" song from the Gap vest commercials. That song is ALWAYS in my head! Hi to everybody now that I didn't get to meet last night, being the sporadically timid gal that I am. I was wearing a patchwork skirt and a blue shirt and hanging out with Tobey alot. ~Joni (fnjoni@fruhead.com) * * * * - -You could hit him with a banjo - -A _banjo_ Bob? - -Yeah, I saw a guy get hit by a banjo once...and he went down. (bob and red, That 70's Show) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 01:52:43 GMT From: mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie) Subject: Re: Am I crazy? I have the proof of "YWGTTM:" in my hands... I got Jian's setlist... and I got it signed. WHOOOO HOOO!!!!! He wrote "theif!" lololol.... more loves, mocks "By a stream of running water, I heard you laugh. I closed my eyes for an hour and a half, and tried to make you appear. I swear in the beauty of the setting sun, you were here." ~Moxy Fruvous~ ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 1999 01:48:56 GMT From: mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie) Subject: Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review Dont' really have time for a full review... just wanted to say that a GREAT time was had by all, and I was happy to finally meet Jenna and Jen!!!! Anyone else who was there and saw me, I had a NG pin on my backpack and I was screaming like an idiot. one quick Frumoment that jen shared... We were about 3rd from the front of the line and Dave was trying to light a cig but couldnt get it lit b/c of the wind... so me and my ingenius self lights a cigarette with the help of my crew sheilding the wind, and I sprint to Dave, screaming "DAVE!! DAVE!!! Need a light?!?!" Dave was very happy.... And then... Dave Matheson... sucked my butt. :) ...cigarette butt, that is. Jen said I definately won the award for the most balls of the evening. Oh ahd Jen, the pic with me, your sis and the lads is AWESOME!!! Loves! - -Mocksie "By a stream of running water, I heard you laugh. I closed my eyes for an hour and a half, and tried to make you appear. I swear in the beauty of the setting sun, you were here." ~Moxy Fruvous~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 02:31:46 GMT From: StarflashJ@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review Well I surely don't need to add anything to the NG about this show because you guys sure have done a great job descriing the entire show, which may I add was Totally unbelievable awesome. The one thing I'm wondering is, do any of you guys know of anyway to get a Fruvous poster or something?? I'd really like a pic of the guys for my wall... I was soo psyched when I got the poster at the show.. but when i opened it was the CD cover! :-( I guess it turned out ok once the guys signed it, but I'd still like some kind of poster of them! Next time I'm surely going to bring a camera with me (which means i gotta go buy one since I broke mine). ~*Jen*~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 03:22:50 GMT From: Melanie Natoli Subject: Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review > Well I surely don't need to add anything to the NG > about this show because > you guys sure have done a great job descriing the > entire show, which may I > add was Totally unbelievable awesome. The one > thing I'm wondering is, do > any of you guys know of anyway to get a Fruvous > poster or something?? I'd > really like a pic of the guys for my wall... I was > soo psyched when I got the > poster at the show.. but when i opened it was the CD > cover! :-( I guess it > turned out ok once the guys signed it, but I'd still > like some kind of poster > of them! Next time I'm surely going to bring a > camera with me (which means > i gotta go buy one since I broke mine). > > > ~*Jen*~ > My little experience last night: I got a cool poster last night. :) Ya know the sam goody one that was hanging up by the cds? I asked the guy for it early in the night and he said sure, I'll hold it for ya. So after the show I went over and they took it down and saved it for me, that was really nice of them. The guys were impressed and wondered how I got it when I went to have them sign it. That was a good ending to a great night last night. --MeL === ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If you're going to be able to look back on something and laugh, you might as well laugh at it now." --Marie Osmond MeLaNiE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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