From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #699 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, August 14 1999 Volume 03 : Number 699 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Thornhill - initial thoughts [bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com (Brent McName] a fru-moment [krazy924@aol.com (Kristin)] Winnipeg show ["Grant Partridge" ] How can I help? I'm only one Manitoban! ["Grant Partridge" ] Ocean City help [soixante@aol.com (Soixante)] NYC - South Street Seaport Review [scoper@netcom.com (Scott Perschke)] Neon orange tanks [FruCake1@aol.com] Re: Larry (was "Thornhill - initial thoughts") [Brent & Marianne Miller <] Lyrics: Beware the Killer Tents! [scoper@netcom.com (Scott Perschke)] Re: Weighing In on Thornhill ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: a fru-moment ["Valerie Jones" ] Re: Lyrics: Beware the Killer Tents! [Ofer Inbar ] Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 05:16:42 GMT From: bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com (Brent McNamee) Subject: Re: Thornhill - initial thoughts On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:32:44 GMT, Brent & Marianne Miller wrote: > >Larry's disappearance had nothing to do with us. Thanks for posting a response there, other-Brent. On reading that message blaming "Brent" for Larry's disappearance, I was racked with feelings of guilt - until I realized that it's not me under the gun here... If you killed Larry, OK - as long as I didn't do it in a waking dream or something! ***LBC ROCKS!*** Signed, the other Brent - ex-chair of the "Save Larry" campaign... Oh, boy, I need sleep. ----------[ Brent McNamee - Woodstock, Ontario, CANADA ]------------ bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com | The answer to the Great (remove the NOSPAM. to mail me) | Question of Life, the Universe http://www.execulink.com/~brentmac/ | and Everything: 42 ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 06:30:46 GMT From: krazy924@aol.com (Kristin) Subject: a fru-moment today while waiting for a train to pass (boy did it take forever) i was listening to you will go to the moon cd quite loudly, doing a lipsyncing act with my friend. well in the middle of no no raja this dude next to us honked his horn at me. i was expecting him to tell me something stupid, like i'm missing a hubcap or whatever.. instead he asks me who i was listening to and says that hes "digging the music". i busted out a piece of paper and wrote down every cd moxy has and told him to buy them all. when i saw his face of confusion, i told him to get live noise first, just to get a feel for the group, besides thats the cd i first bought. oooh i feel so good.. just thought i would share with you all :) i don't usually post, basically because i'm always behind. but i'm working on that. ok enough babble. - -Kristin "I'm not a complete idiot--several parts are missing." - Anonymous ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 02:11:20 -0500 From: "Grant Partridge" Subject: Winnipeg show Is anyone on this NG going to be at the Winnipeg show? Just checkin' for personal reference. - -Grant P.S. If "the guys" or "one of the guys" is reading this, can you play River Valley on that show? that song really makes me smile. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 03:03:35 -0500 From: "Grant Partridge" Subject: How can I help? I'm only one Manitoban! Hi, I'm a 16-year old from Manitoba, and I'd like to help spread the Moxy. =) Can someone tell me how to do so? I'd like to get Q-94 (a chum-group station, i think) to play some songs, but I'm not too sure how. I've heard them play Get In The Car (on release of Y), but how would they get the single and such? - -Grant ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 07:39:53 -0400 From: Thomas Fazzio Subject: Re: DEBS GROUNDED FOR LIFE FROM FRUVOUS?!??! FruCake1@aol.com wrote: > I'm instant messaging debs right now and asked her to not forget to wear her > Pitchfork shirt to tomorrow's NYC show. Her reply was "I'm grounded for life > from Fruvous". DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT SHE MEANS? I'm bracing myself! > > Lisa Bills Wow - so *that's* what happened, eh? Best of luck to you Deb! later, tom. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 07:28:45 -0400 From: Thomas Fazzio Subject: Re: looking for someone who was at the Milestones show > Hey, > > While I was making balloon figures and generally enjoying myself at the > Milestones > show on 10 August a woman directed my attention to a young boy who seemed a bit > out of sorts. I made him a balloon thingy and he seemed to brighten up a bit. > To the > one who directed me to this situation, thanks for pointing him out to me. If > you hadn't > done that, he would not have been able to give me that fantastic smile. > > peace, > > Jack Jack, I spoke with that woman after the show... she mentioned how that must have just made the kid's day =) later, tom. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:39:50 GMT From: StarflashJ@aol.com Subject: The seaport! Did anyone see Fruvous at the seaport last night?!?! The past part was that i left work early and wound up sitting in traffic forEVER so I got to the seaport late... and it turned out Fruvous got on a little late so I didn't miss anything at all! It was Grrrrrreat!!! The show was soooooo great! I waited till I got there to buy Thornhill... and so when i was there i had the guys sign it, and the little poster that they gave with the album (which will be the first thing to go on my dorm wall when i get back to school!) They really are sooooo great! The entire show was great and i sure can't wait for the guys to come back to NYC soon! By the way, I think Thornhill is an awesome album!! ~~Waitin' very impatiently for the next show! ~*Jen*~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:39:13 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: (no subject) ok, so i can check my email from the library and can reply back to y'all...so please send me stuff, anything really, b/c the ng has been blocked from my inbox somehow... :( this sucks. like, more than you all can know. - -debs, regretting like hell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:08:11 GMT From: StarflashJ@aol.com Subject: Problems.....! I bought the definitions T-shirt last night at the seaport show and it has a bunch of holes in it.... does anyone happen to know what i can do to get a short w/out holes? I called Sam Goody and they said that the T-shirt sails weren't through them! If anyone could help, i'd totally appreciate it! ~*Jen*~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:09:03 GMT From: Our Lady of Paradox Subject: Re: The seaport! At 01:39 PM 14/08/99 GMT, you wrote: >Did anyone see Fruvous at the seaport last night?!?! Yep yep yep :) It's all about Pisco the Bandit Fish ... and sinking the Peking (the ship docked to the right of the stage) and replacing it with the Beijing :) And Mike making a Les Mis reference ("don't you know you're making love to one already deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead!...that's called necrophiliaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!") A great time was had by all, and my ears are still ringing :) Eileen "We can do no great things; only small things with great love." - -Mother Teresa ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 15:35:24 GMT From: soixante@aol.com (Soixante) Subject: Ocean City help hi.. I'm planning on going to the OC show with 2 of my friends, and we already got tickets.. but we are taking regular old public transportation to get to the show(Philly-OC).. the problem we run into is that we are all 18 and 19, and we can't get a hotel room unless we are over 21. If we can't find a room, then that will mean we will have to travel overnight, meaning ending up in Atlantic City at one in the morning, and Philadelphia at 4 in the morning.. none of us are too keen on the idea.. I was looking to see if anyone could suggest a place that we could stay within walking or public transportation distance, that will admit people under 21 without their parents? I know this sounds a little out there, but if you know of place, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You. Catherine (frufoot@fruhead.com) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:31:01 GMT From: scoper@netcom.com (Scott Perschke) Subject: NYC - South Street Seaport Review Here's the set from the Fruvous show at the South Street Seaport last night - a bit of a mixed bag of old and new. Great to see the assembled Fruhead contingent, most of whom I missed at FRFF (Jason, Catherine, roB, Gordon, Lisa, Zard, Chris, Mary - sorry for anyone I missed). There were about 15 folks from my alternate net universe, the Idiot's Delight Digest, as well - nice to walk into a crowd of 500 or so, and know a couple dozen of them! The guys played for about an hour and 20 minutes, then stayed for probably at least an hour signing CD's for a long line, many of whom saw Fruvous for the first time. I believe they also sold out of the CD's on hand, so it was a very successful show from that perspective, too. Luckily, the weather held out - it had been threatening to pour all afternoon, and actually did start raining well after the show had finished. The sound outdoors (from my vantage towards the rear of the (noisy) crowd, wasn't great. I'm told that upfront it was a bit muddy, and too loud. From the rear, it was not as muddy and not loud enough. The set: Half As Much You Can't Be Too Careful Video Bargainville (disco) Lazy Boy When She Talks Pisco Bandito Boo Time Splatter Splatter Michigan Militia Johnny Saucep'n I Will Hold On My Poor Generation My Baby Loves A Bunch of Authors Get In The Car Psycho Killer E: King of Spain (tease) Drinking Song The King tease was quite remarkable, about 2 full verses were done in a lounge style while Mike attempted to change and tune a string he'd broken during Psycho. A good (and fortunately, dry) time was had by all! Have fun at NoHo! Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:38:42 GMT From: FruCake1@aol.com Subject: Neon orange tanks Just wanted to let the people who are hunting for the orange MF tank top, that they are available. They were selling like hotcakes last night!!! Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:43:21 GMT From: Brent & Marianne Miller Subject: Re: Larry (was "Thornhill - initial thoughts") NEWS FLASH The Canadian Mounted Police paid us a visit today. We didn't talk to them, since we were hiding under the bed at the time. Fortunately our bedroom windows were open and we could hear part of their conversation with our neighbors. It went something like this... First, the Mounties asked our neighbor Mr. Smith (the names have been changed to protect the innocent) "Have you seen the Millers with a Budgie lately? The Budgie answers to the name of Larry Boniface Clebdon." Mr. Smith said "What's a Budgie" The Mounties said "Sir, we're investigating the disappearance of Mr. Clebdon. Currently, we're treating this investigation as a kidnapping. However, I will say that we just recently received an anonymous tip that Mr. Clebdon is being held as a political prisoner. At this point were just trying to gather information. The Miller's are not suspects in this alleged crime...yet. That's all we were able to hear. More later. We're innocent I tells ya, Brent and Mar Leah Bender wrote: > > >Larry's disappearance had nothing to do with us. > > I have information from an unnamed source that Larry is being held hostage by a > band of delusional giraffes. The giraffes claim that Larry stole their > eyelashes and spit on their blueberry bagels... No negotiations have taken > place as of yet... > > -Bender > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > * http://www.bombdiggity.com/ * Yeah, baby, YEAH! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:50:18 GMT From: scoper@netcom.com (Scott Perschke) Subject: Lyrics: Beware the Killer Tents! Thanks to the taping efforts of one of our own, here the the lyrics to Killer Tents, as transcribed from the mainstage show. Soon to come on FDC - chords! Enjoy! Scott and Ken ================== Beware the Killer Tents! Beware the Killer Tents! Chorus: The tents are coming, over the hill We thought they were inanimate, but now they're set to kill At Falcon Ridge this summer Somehow we've enraged the Falcon Gods Tents have turned to creeping crawling body-snatching pods It was time for the big hoedown It was Hillsdale '99 Susan Werner saw a tent pole grow like an ivy vine Eddie from Ohio through his rear view mirror saw How with reckless abandon they were eatin' people raw (Tents, that is) The Kennedy's tore Greg Brown From his soul food bowl Said surely nothing good can come from Such a grassy knoll Time to cut the mustard And beat a fast retreat Cause Vance Gilbert's looking tasty and those tents they gotta eat! (Jian: they like the dark meat!) Repeat Chorus Roger the Jester wasn't joshing when he said "They'll kill us all!" And an unHarmonius Wail announced the end of Ellis Paul Cry Cry Cry as they devoured Run Run Run as they hurl the undigested flesh of LJ Booth and Stacey Earle They'll execute a Hudson crossing As the mother tent commands Slithering all the way from Utah Phillips Screwdrivers in hand To dismantle the machinery from where folk fests are flowing So this time next year this field will just be Wild Asparagus growing Repeat Chorus Beware the Killer Tents!! Tony Trischka's hallowed banjo The hungry tents will suck And even Ani will be swallowed Up Up Up Up Up From Ferron they'll exact their macabre vendetta And the Nields will never have the chance to get over that slut Greta! No Falcon Ridge performer will escape this ghastly crime Except for those who weren't invited And those whose names are hard to rhyme What of Fruvous, you may ask Listen up! Let me explain! We joined forces with the tents And turned them into the King of Spain! Yes with this terrifying army Fruvous futures have been coupled We've pissed off the folkies But our ticket prices have been doubled! Repeat Chorus Beware the Killer Tents! Beware the Killer Tents! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:50:23 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Weighing In on Thornhill I've got my own big review coming soon, but I think I'll jump into this little thread a bit Chad Maloney wrote: > > Gordon Nash wrote: > > > > > > > >I'm intereated here. What's some of what makes fruvous fruvous that is > > >missing from this album? > > > > > > > > > > The wicked sense of humor, > > Well, they still have that. Check out a live show. Um, Chad, that is kind of an invalid answer. You said "from this album," so Gordon's point is not so easily dismissed. Nobody is arguing about the band lacking something. We all know they do not. But Gordon feels that this album is too one sided. > There's some humor > in the songs, but not as much as many people would like. True. Splatter Splatter is pure wicked humor if ever there was any. And there is wry humor in both CBTC and Earthquakes. > They are > saving that for the "C" album it sounds like (in much the same way > that Wood and "b" were paired). I think Pisco would have worked fine as a bonus track on this album--would have helped it lighten up a bit in fact, but I can see why they would want to save it instead. It is an important centerpiece for a C album. Let's face it, if they can "hit" with anything that is going to be on the C album it will be Pisco, so for both commercial and artistic reasons I'd save it for that. > To me lyrical perfection doesn't > have to be silly funny. Elvis Costello, the lyrical genius he is, > doesn't get silly funny all that often. He does irony and word play > as do a lot of the wordsmiths that influenced Fruvous. That's > on the album and to me that shows their wicked sense of humor a bit. > But it isn't blatant like it is in some older songs like Kick in the Ass. > But to me, it's still there. I agree completely Chad, but I want to take an opportunity to say something right now. Fruvous' earlier material is not at all universally funny or silly. Of 15 songs on Bargainville I'd count 6 as being funny/silly and 5 as being dead serious (with the balance in between). I want to put a stop to this easy bandying about that some people are doing of the idea that Fruvous' older (and most famous) material is all humorous. It isn't by a long shot so there really isn't an argument about whether songs have to be funny to be perfect. Of course they don't. Funny can't be the measuring stick, but balanced can be. > > The devil take the hindmost attitude. > > Reading between the lines here, I get a feeling that means that you > think they intentionally made a more bland pop sounding album. That > they threw away their "Who cares what the industry thinks, we are > gonna make fun music" attitudes. Is it possible that this is > fun music for them and they didn't make it to fill a market? The songs > are still Fruvous to me and much deeper than most of the mainstream > drivel people up everyday and it stil sounds to me like they are > having their fun. I'd substitute satisfying/satisfaction for "fun" in the above and then totally agree with you Chad. > If anything, that devil > take the hindmost attitude is there because they released something > new and different that maybe not everyone will like (including some > die hard Fruheads that have been around since the dawn of time it > seemed) because THEY liked it. Again I agree. The perfect example is When She Talks. People should be careful about dismissing this song out-of-hand. I think it clearly means something important to the band because they have invested a great deal of time and effort in perfecting it, even in the face of some fans who have been saying that it is basically a dud of a song. > > The adreniline pumping rhythms. > > To me, Half as Much, Earthquakes, and I Will Hold On capture this > better than almost any other Fruvous song I've heard. Live, yes. They are a bit too slow on the album, IMO. But then that is true of It's Too Cold on wood as well. > I agree that there are some more simple-based songs, but that's > a function of the styles and influences of the album to me. Or when a > song is kinda slow like Independence Day or Downsizing there could be > a lot rhythmically going on, but it's not intended to be an > adrenaline pumping thing. Right. It is a zen thing. And for the record, I'd argue that GITC and Right Wing Shit are far more simplistic musically than anything on Thornhill. > > When you hear Thornhill are you spontaneously dancing? I do that at every > > fruvous show. I didn't twitch to Thornhill. > > 1) A Fruvous show is different than a studio album. They do different things > fullfilling different business needs for the band > 2) Boy, do I Will Hold On, Earthquakes, and Half As Much make my head > start grooving in my seat! This is true of wood as well. You just don't dance to wood. Some of the songs in concert, yes, but not the actual album. > > If you can't see that There are tons of things on Bargainville that aren't on > > Thornhill, you should listen again. > > Of course there are tons of things on Bargainville that aren't on > Thornhill (Video Bargainville withstanding of course). Grrrrr. Massive disagreement there Chad. Splatter Splatter is NOT at all Video Bargainville. It is a lot better and a lot funnier actually. Just because they use the same mic effect doesn't make it the same song. > > Thornhill is basically one note. > > A very nice note. > > I don't understand this. Do you think Earthquakes sounds like > When She Talks? Do you think Hate Letter sounds like Splatter Splatter? > I agree that this isn't Moon. There isn't a huge range of huge > style changes. It's more Wooden. The style changes are sometimes > a bit subtle and aren't No No Raja compared to Kick in the Ass. But > they are there. I think that is his complaint Chad. This album has an overall sound to it, and if one of your favorite aspects of Fruvous is eclecticism than that can be a bit of a shock. A.J. - -- Mariaweb last updated 5/13/99. See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:10:38 GMT From: "Valerie Jones" Subject: Re: a fru-moment here's one: last night i was at the birchmere to see marshall crenshaw. before he took the stage, the house played "michy" ... then played "boo time" right after his encore. i was in heaven. :) ~v~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:33:24 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Re: Lyrics: Beware the Killer Tents! Scott Perschke wrote: > Slithering all the way from Utah Phillips > Screwdrivers in hand Of course they were referring to Utah Phillips, but they were doing it with a pun. I think the more true transcription of these lines would be: > Slithering all the way from Utah > Phillips screwdrivers in hand -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@polyamory.org -- WBRS Waltham 100.1 FM -- info@wbrs.org http://www.wbrs.org/ "Long live folk music, and this doomed festival!" -- moxy fruvous ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 17:09:55 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: NYC - South Street Seaport Review my several cents on last night's show-- Me and Melanie (the little sis) arrived around 6, a half hour before the show was scheduled to start, and found we were still able to get right up front and center! Mel, being the short little 9 year old she is, was grateful to be right up against the railing, able to see perfectly ;-) We discovered that to our right was Genna, and her crew, and to our left was Mocksie and *her* crew (Karen, and Kate! hi ;-) The opening act was...well, talented, but it just seemed long. I mean, he could certainly play, but his songs were all *quite* similar, and a few just a little too long for my tastes (poor Mellie, not used to standing still for that long, was particularly happy when he was finished) We enterained ourselves by playing "spot the fru," as the various guys went in and out from the backstage area. Some banter I recall: Murray, in introducing the band: "Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you a band who think black and baby blue go together, Moxy Fruvous!" ;-) It was quite amusing, actually, as Mike and Jian were both wearing black t-shits, and were flanked by the baby-blue clad Dave and Murray. Very nice symmetry ;-) Jian also apologized for being "a middle eastern man," and therefore how the humidity would affect is hair. I can relate ;-P Jian was reading from one of the promotional boat tour pampheltes that abound in that area. He prefaced this by saying that he was just a Canadian from Toronto, so of course knew very little about baseball ;-) But one tour offerred a trip on the Yankee Clipper, to famous Yankee Stadium--the House that Ruth built!-- and home of the World Champion New York Yankees!! *or* you could take the Mets Express. With a few new players, this could be the year for the Mets ;-) They mentioned that they liked the "nautical theme" the organizers had gone with, and that it was all very elaborate to make it actually resemble a port. Docked close next to the stage was the Peking, which ellicited many comments. One of them (I froget who said what here), mentioned that shouldn't it have been renamed the Bejiing? Another was distraught that Limp Bizcuit could incite fires and riots at Woodstock, but they couldn't even sink the Peking. (JIan-- "Well, listen to the show, buy the CD,a dn THEN sink i." Murray: "You may need to buy a cannon as well.") The "teased" King of Spain that Scott mentioned actually began as the "Peking of Spain," in the belabored stalling as Mike got the guitar ready for the Drinking Song. Murray also menitoned that if they sold a *lot* of records that night, he wanted to buy the big red boat docked back behind the stage. Jian said that even if people didn't like the music and didn't want to actually buy the CD, they could still contribute to the cause. The Les Mis comment came when Murray acknowledged all the people who had lined the staircase at the back of the crowd. We truned around, and it was actully kinda cool, all these poeple who wanted a better view, leaning over railings and blocking any sort of actual pedestrian traffic on the stairs. Someone mentioned that it looked a barricade from Les Mis, which is where Mike jumped in with the necrophilia ditty ;-) At one point, all the guys went to go address intrument problems of some sort, leaving Murray alone up front. "So, I guess I have the floor. As unaccustomed as I am to public speaking..." ;-) He then went into some odd, generic speech on how all we all need to address certian issues, that effect all of us as people, such as the environment, and... -- Jian jumps in with "Wear sunscreen." Anoher theme was Jian starting with "You know what pisses me off?" Of course, now I forget exactly what did piss him off, but it was amusing at the time. Oh-and when they were mentioning the "grassroots band" kinda thing, Jian mentioned that we wouldn't see any big ad for them on MTV, not that they'd mind if anyone wanted to buy them. Just found that another intersting bit of information concerning what the band wants, attention wise. On a musical note, I absolutely adored the disco bargainville ;-) Watching *them* get into was almost as amusing as the song itself. Dave disco dancing at the keyboard was pretty priceless ;-) The Boo Tim lyrics addressed the humidity, and then went into the Yankees choking and the Blue Jays winning, and somwething about where's the heliport? Don't really recall... but it got quite a reaction ;-) I was also happy that My Poor Generation didn't have the "scratchy thing" live. Murray did the introduction, and started out by saying. "I didn't write this song. And I always get in trouble for the introductions, with Dave carefully watching over me." So he did a little intro, but Dave, trying to finish a cigarette, said "Keep going, buddy." So he forged on a little longer. Boy do I love this song. Also, IWHO. Jian really sells this when he sings it. Overall, I, as always had a great time. This shouldn't surprise me anymore ;-) I was also impressed by the number of people there for them, who really knew the songs. You never know, in a place like that, who knows the band, and who just happened to be walking by. But the sing along for the Drinking Song was quite well participated ;-) We got on line afterwards. Melanie *begged* me for her own copyof Thornhill, which I resisted for awhile, simply because I can get it cheaper here, but eventually relented, as I tend to do with her ;-) With the CD, we got the Thornhill poster, which is the CD cover, with some handy orange space at the bottom for signing. (and a teeny tiny budgiedog in the corner, a la LN) We got up there about an hour later, but I enjoyed the time on line chatting with Mocksie and friends (quote of the evening: "Dave sucked my butt." I will only say it did not come from me ;-) We also listened to a VERYpersistent salesman with a megaphone selling the CDs. He apparently did a good job, since I think they sold out, but at one point was even offerring "free mentos to the next person who buys a CD." ;-) Rather annoying, but apparently effective. We stopped at a diner on the way home, so me and Mellie arrive home from the "Home Before Midnight Concert sseries" at about 1. But we won't quibble ;-) looking forward to Monday! ~jen (~jen@fruhead.com) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23"-- Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."--Rent ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #699 ********************************************