From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #673 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, August 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 673 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Waves..... [trace@frumail.org (Trace)] Re: OT: Are vegetarians better lovers?!? [hawley@plinth.org (Steve Hawley] One more time: OC ride request [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)] Re: Help!! ["Jill Hufnagel" ] Re: Attention XPN Members -- Point info [chad schrock ] Re: FRUTRAVEL: NYE, Hotels [Paul Mischler ] Re: All this Future Frvous stuff [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)] Re: new quill [hKath ] re: Jian in NOW Magazine, etc [FruKid ] Re: Another opportunity missed to meet you all... [Chad Maloney ] SoNo: A review [aprestin@ccs.neu.garbage.edu] Yet Another SoNo review [ksucy@nospam.eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada)] Re: whine whine whine [aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (Aleigh)] Re: Buffalo Hotels for NYE [nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the ] Important subject if you collect Frumiles [YOURSLICE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 15:05:23 GMT From: trace@frumail.org (Trace) Subject: Re: Waves..... On 08 Aug 1999 14:44:31 GMT, luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria) wrote: >Okay, I know this is a little late, but as some of you know, it takes my brain >a little while longer to comprehend some things. ;) Anyway, has anybody ever >thought that this "jess" person could be the lads making a joke? You know, >making fun of Jian getting a lot of attention by saying "i went to a concert of >his", or using bad grammar because so many of us are sticklers for good >grammar, and all that other stuff in the other article that I can't remember. >welp, that's just a thought... Good lord, I hope not! I hope the lads have way too much to do to bother with such pointless silliness as a discussion thread of that sort. - -- Trace trace@frumail.org "Part of a new, emerging feminist movement." ~Jian commenting on his Brittany Spears t-shirt: 7/24/99 Crisis, Get Help ~Anagram of "The Spice Girls" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 09:00:02 -0800 From: hawley@plinth.org (Steve Hawley) Subject: Re: OT: Are vegetarians better lovers?!? In article <37a87b74.7758837@news.p3.net>, trace@frumail.org (Trace) wrote: > On 04 Aug 1999 17:09:02 GMT, srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) > wrote: > > > There's a > >>reason why it's called the *base* system... > > > >I always favored base 16, myself. > > Now this is just exactly the type of wrong-headed stubborness that has > kept America in the Dark Ages rather than joining the rest of the > world in the more civilized, base-10 metric system. It's a conspiracy > I tell you! Go for base 2! You can count to 1024 without taking off your shoes and socks or (if you're a guy) dropping your pants! Base 16 has it's own blessing too. - -- Steve Hawley, turned 21 and 0x21 Bit Banger hawley@plinth.org - -- "Worship the potato? The idea seemed silly to me. But then I thought, what else is more deserving of worship? It's simple, it comes from the earth, and it can kill you if you disobey it."--Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey http://www.plinth.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 11:15:32 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: One more time: OC ride request All right, I've posted this before with no responses, so here it goes again... ***I need a ride from Boston to Ocean City on the 16th!*** I will be at Northampton (for anyone who wants to work out the details with me there), and after that I'm going to Boston and spending Sunday night there. So I need a ride to Ocean City on Monday, preferably early so we'll have some time to hang out on the beach before the show. It's getting pretty urgent now - I have to make it to OC because I'm meeting up with my ride there (are we still on for that, Lori?) to Philadelphia, where I fly out the next day. Please, anyone, if you're going from Boston (or passing through there on the way) to OC, let me know by e-mail as soon as possible. Debb and Luella, how are those tickets looking? k@ - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 20:06:19 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: Re: Help!! >ok.. with Harbourfront coming up (in 3 weeks) i have to ask a >request from all of you shutterbugs.  I need pictures proving >that i >was at Frumiles weekend '98.  I didn't have a card & i'm 4 away >from the songbook w/o a chance in hell of seeing that many shows >the rest of the year.  if you think you have something w/ me in >it... >email me at snowgirl at frumail dot org. >Thanks muchly! >-Amy B. Ok another late reply...sorry I'm just finally catching up:) So if you forgot to have your card stamped at a show and you have the ticket do you think that Tobey would stamp it ass long as you showed him the ticket...because I might be in the same boat as you Amy...and that one show at Graffitti would help me out. I used to not care, but then i started seeing quite a few shows and now ahhhhhhh it just frustrates me. Thanks **Jiel** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 19:49:44 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: Attention XPN Members -- Point info Lori Martin wrote: > > Monday at 8:45 am Michaela Majoun will be announcing the > availability and purchasing policy for tickets to the World > Cafe taping at the Point in Bryn Mawr. Here are the details that they have been announing all day today: Starting at 8.45am tomorrow, tickets will be on sale for $20 for 'XPN members only. If you are not a member of 'XPN, you can join for $15/month and they will also give you a copy of Thornhill. (You also have to call the station to get them. Minor details are left to Michaela tomorrow morning.) > This is an 8 pm show, so neither Trace nor I will be there -- > prior commitments of the Wormy sort. Which means there are aww. :) > two fewer ppl trying to snag tickets. :) According to I won't be trying for tickets, either. Alas.[1] > broadcast tidbits yesterday, it is a member event but not a > special producers' event. - -- chad at radix dot net [1] However, I will be joining our Toronto Früheads for Harbourfront. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 18:20:58 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Re: FRUTRAVEL: NYE, Hotels That's right Amanda... as it was also pointed out somewhere else by someone else, (i don't remember if it was here on the NG or if it was on #MoxyFruvous), you don't necessarily need to get a room _in_ the city. You could also try other places nearby, like the suburbs, Amherst, Cheektowaga, Depew, and other points around the city. If someone is a AAA member... you could probably look into getting reduced rates, or even just seeing what is available, because most every hotel around me here gives discounts and has some affiliation with AAA... and splitting 'rent 4... 5... 6... or 16 ways sure cuts down the cost of the room. ;-) - -Paul Mischler Snarky Spice wrote: > So, fear not. You'll want to make a reservation early and make sure that > locks you into the rate they quote you; make absolutely sure you write > down the name of the person who takes your reservation, and refuse to > take no for an answer if they quote you something different when you > show up. However, you don't have to pay $300 a night for a hotel, at > least that's my impression. > > --Amanda, remembering how hard it was to get a cab last NYE in the taxi > capital of the universe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:43:47 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: All this Future Frvous stuff In article <19990808235819.29220.00009637@ng-cd1.aol.com>, frggr78@aol.com says... > To everyone that the message referred to, think of how welcoming you have made > the new non-troll members of the newsgroup and the converts at the concerts > that you might shove out of the way to get to the front. Good point, Amy. And as I told him on IRC earlier, Way to go Ross! I hope everyone (whether they agree with Ross's original post or not) can at least keep in mind that we were *all* new somewhere once. Not everyone who comes in late is a clueless newbie, or a troll, or an immature brat, or even someone just "different from the old crowd" who's gonna ruin our playground with their unfamiliar face. Most new people have come here for the same reason and with the same intentions as the old ones did, just at a different *time.* They deserve the same courteous welcome the rest of us got. k@ Frühead for ten whole months now - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 23:44:37 GMT From: hKath Subject: Re: new quill In article , ksucy@nospam.eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada) wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but did you see the tour dates > enclosed with the Quill? Check out the date for Saturday, Dec. 11. > > It's in Toronto, NY. Freudian slip? > > -kimberly Well, we all know where our boys' hearts lie now, don't we? :) I might as well pledge allegiance to that gaudy ole flag of yours. Oh, and all you "honourary" canadians out there (in Buffalo, Philly, Miami, Toledo... you know where you all are, you with the big maple leaf flags hanging in your door frames) you all might as well give up the dream, huh? You didn't really want to be Canadian, didja? Cause, as you very well know, all the other countries laugh at us when we're not paying attention. It's true. Dennis Miller told me last night. Kath, on the sixth day of a nine-day stretch without a day off, which is soon to be followed by a one-day weekend. Sound bitter? I'm probably just delirious. Don't mind me. - -- "A handful of Jergen's doesn't count as experience." - Goats Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 16:29:50 GMT From: FruKid Subject: re: Jian in NOW Magazine, etc Katrin sez: > I'm pretty sure that he was serious about this, and not trying to make us > think the book was "forbidden" or something. He went on and on about how > much he really hated the story and the characters. > > But as I said, now that I've heard/read diametrically opposed opinions of > the book from two people whose intellect I respect and admire, I am > thinking that I should read it myself, if only to form my own opinion. Well, I'm probably going to read it now, simply because I'm addicted to reading and this sounds like an interesting book. However I've been warned it's not an easy read.. Of course that won't deter me, it'll just make the librarian look at me funny. I've been wondering, too, are there any books any of you would *really* recommend to me? To anyone? I seem to be running out of books.And has anyone here read Philip Pullman's The Golden Compass? I strongly suggest you do. ;) FruKid - -- "..Dijon.." -- Teresa, the MustardGirl "Hey, go talk to MustardMan!!" -- My Mom "i am the slowest of the slower than the slow!!! .....hmm, why am I taking pride in this?" -- maria Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 18:40:18 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Another opportunity missed to meet you all... Melanie wrote: > > Chad wrote: > > >Are we interested in keeping the old AMMF buttons or do we want to design new ones? If > >we are interested in keeping the old ones, I'd be willing to get some printed up and be the point person >for the SASE. > > For some of us who are new: What is the purpose of the buttons? I'm guessing they are worn to recognize one another when actually in proximity and not in e-universe. Right? > And what is the SASE? Thanks. The old ng pins were to recognize newsgroup people at shows. They worked very well for me back when many people had them. But no this isn't the case, so you gotta walk up to people who look like ng people *grin* SASE is a self-addressed stamped envelope. More or less, you send an envelope with another envelope inside it. The inside envelope is addressed to you and stamped. The outside envelope is addressed to whomever you are sending the SASE to. They open the envelope, stick whatever inside it, and send it back. This is how Victoria did the buttons before. Note that there hasn't been enough positve feedback, so I'm not pursuing getting the old buttons printed up at this point. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 18:03:29 GMT From: ross_hendry@bigfoot.com (Ross Hendry) Subject: All this Future Frvous stuff Well, it didn't take long for the naysayers to get their words in did it? Let's face it, any band, unless you're one of these 'up their own arse' bands like the Beta Band (and Belle and Sebastien to a certain extent) want their music to be heard by as many people as possible. Either for financial reasons or for purely entertainment reasons. Whatever, mass media is the way to go about it and guess what? Even I have heard of Conan O'Brien and while I know that appearing on it might catapult MF into the mainstream it may also earn them a barely noticeable increase in album sales. Even if they do make it big and start playing larger venues, I don't care, I'm happy that they've 'made it'. Of course, you could all just say that it doesn't matter jack shit to me cos I'll never see 'em anyway but that's not the case at all. If they make it big, what's to stop the UK catching on? What I am trying to say is basically 'shut up' to all these people who are already lamenting the loss of their band. So you won't be standing 3 foot away from them anymore maybe, so maybe they might not be able to come out afterwards quite so often. You would trade what makes the guys happy for the chance once every so often of you being able to say hello? How selfish. Now this does not apply to everyone and I know that some people will be shocked that I have spoken out and there will be certain people who, judging from past postings, will prob add my to their kill file, to them I say bite me. GOOD LUCK MOXY FRÜVOUS! I'll see you in the SEC, at T In The Park and maybe even Glastonbury! Say hello to that ginger haired guy crushed against the barriers at the front desperately trying to sing along and you can bet he'll buy you a drink and be wholly positive about you being there. Ross It's the Galaxies Greatest Comic, Now check out it's web site! http://www.cybergoth.net/tuws/ ------------------------------ Date: 08 Aug 1999 00:21:04 GMT From: luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria) Subject: re: Jian in NOW Magazine, etc frukid asked: >I've been wondering, too, are there any books any of you would *really* >recommend to me? To anyone? welpers, for an easy read _be true to your school_ by richard greene is an awesome book. And, I enjoyed _angela's ashes_ by frank mccourt very much. also, _catch-22_ by Joseph heller is amazingly ironic. oh, and for a nice, easy read try _amanda miranda_ by some guy whose name I can't remember. i really can't think of any of the required reading that i especially enjoyed. wait, _farenheit 451_ by, um, another guy is AMAZING. i have no clue why everybody in my class disliked it. I loved it. >And has >anyone here read Philip Pullman's The Golden Compass? I strongly >suggest you do. ;) ahh, i recommend that to almost everyone. Pretty easy read, but it's just so good. that is actually one of the few books i can read over and over again without becoming bored. oh, and there is a sequal to _golden compass_, the _subtle knife_ is awesome, too. there is also a third book coming out in september. oh, and while we're on the subject of young adult books, _matilda_ by roald dahl is my other favorite book. maria who is feeling quite illiterate because she can't think of ANY books ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ "'Is there something you like?' 'Barney.' 'Is there something you despise?' 'Barney'...'Is something you reject?' 'Food that isn't Barney'" - --Moxy Fruvous, 6/15/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 01:18:07 GMT From: Melanie Subject: The Band Has Four Members A week's worth of postings has yielded interesting threads--lots of Jian-talk. My observations have led to these reflections. Jian is an extreme extrovert. In shows, he acts as kind of an MC which gives the audience a glimpse of who he is. Those who stay after to meet him are greeted with warmth. He has an amazing capacity to be genuinely present to the person he's talking to, or else he fakes it really well which eliminates the genuine part but it is a gift nonetheless. He is also NICE. At two shows I attended, kids stayed after to say hello. Jian went OVER TO THEM. Most adults don't even see kids, much less give them the time of day. Jian not only notices kids, but sees to it that they are not overlooked. The combination of extroversion, genuineness, and niceness may well lead people to think that Jian would certainly be their friend if he just had the chance to get to know them. And it probably makes them believe that they know something about him when in reality they, and admittedly I, don't really know him at all. Certainly it may upset them when he doesn't act the way they've decided he should. Tough. The man gives more of himself than any fan has any right to expect. All that being said, I'd really like to hear more about the other guys as well. Dave's virtuosity and voice--when I first heard Bargainvillle, I feel in love with Dave's voice. Mike's voice, too. All the guys have great voices, but what Mike can DO with his voice, WOW. And Murray's eyes--that's shallow, I know, but I have one photo--they are what my mother refers to as bedroom eyes. I'm out of here for 10 days. Have fun. Hope to meet some of you in Rochester. melanie ------------------------------ Date: 8 Aug 1999 02:11:35 GMT From: aprestin@ccs.neu.garbage.edu Subject: SoNo: A review It's always nice to see a Fruvous show. It's even nicer when it's 15 minutes from your house. This happened to me earlier in the year with the House of Blues shows when I was living up in Boston, and it happened today again. I'm trying to get all the shows I can in before I leave for the other side of the planet (Australia) later this month. We managed to find a parking space after about 10 minutes' searching (the parking lot near the festival was worthless -- packed, and every time someone left, somebody would sleaze their way into the vacant spot. Unfortunately that someone was never me, so we ended up parking on the hill.) We also managed to find the stage, and we had time to spare before the concert, so we hung out by the taper(s) (hiya Jason :) and talked for a while with other fruheads. The weather was great, though the band didn't seem to be doing as well as we were. Murray, especially, was sweating bullets (what the hell kind of expression is that btw?) on stage. The show, though, was great. They opened with Sahara, which was really cool, since I'd only heard it once before live. Great harmonies on this one, and a cool song to open with. Complete setlist (Adam managed to "snag" Jian's after the show -- I use "snag" in quotes because he got Cal to hand it to him.) Sahara bj - Mike seemed to mess up the first verse of this. I'm not sure he messed it up by accident though, as a lot of it seemed definitely intentional. I couldn't make out what he was saying though. "Now he hikes the Himalayas, but he'd rather catch a bootlegged recording." disco bargainville - Wow, 2 for 2. This version of Bargainville *rocks*. Those who haven't yet heard it, beg and plead for a bootleg. :) medicine show - A surprise. I'd never heard this live, and I don't think it's been done much(?) Really cool to hear it. ywgttm - After the song, Murray mentioned that he'd accidentally pointed at the sun instead of the moon at one point. He warned us, "So, don't go to the sun." 1/2 - I bet this is the song that gets played on Conan. :) too careful - Or this? when she talks pisco (not played :/) king/green - Monkey Boy attacked Mister Cheese during Green Eggs and Ham. (Monkey Boy was Mike, "wearing" a cup over his mouth and making screeching sounds.) booty - "Feelin' our best at the SoNo Fest". Lots of references to local minor-league baseball teams (Ravens, Bluefish, and a couple other Connecticut-centric references. Kinda neat.) splatter - It's neat how an acoustic guitar can sound like an electric, even without pickups. fly - The harmonies on this were as good, if not better, than the Live Noise version. Definitely the best I've heard it performed. tureen - Another pleasant surprise. They seem to be playing this more often lately. sauce - I love this song. author - "My crucifixion", "Who needs a grave?" car - Another song I like hearing live. psycho - This was sweet. Jian got the entire crowd (and the band) to be really, really quiet for the intro. He did the "I can't seem to face up to the facts. . ." bit *really* quietly, and then *yelled* out "Don't touch me, I'm a real live wire," while making the most maniacal face. See Chris's review of the first House of Blues show -- he did it then too -- for a better description. :) michigan militia - Pretty cool, though they're playing this an awful lot lately. I'm not complaining, though. mpg - This is a pretty cool song to end the set with, I've decided. Mike's guitar sounded really nice. This song seems to come together better every time I hear it. After the show, the band came out and hung out with everyone for a *long* time. It's really cool to be able to talk to them; they're so easily approachable and genuinely like talking to their fans. It's neat, too, that they can still hang out and go shopping (Murray and Jian were buying clothes after the show in the "retro" store across the street from the merch booth) and watch the other performers and whatnot without being mobbed by fans. It's also neat to see the wide range of ages of the fans. I saw people there that were older than my father, and kids that were maybe 5 or 6 years old, and *everyone* had a good time. The mood was great, no hecklers or people acting like idiots. I had a great time. Until South Street Seaport... - - A.P. - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 15:02:26 -0500 From: ksucy@nospam.eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada) Subject: Yet Another SoNo review This was probably the best time I've ever had with a severe hangover. I've seen the other reviews, so I'll just add my take on things and a few banter notes I kept during the show. Kristaffer had abandoned me for the weekend, so I talked my mom into joining me at the SoNo fest this year. It's probably just as well, since if I was going solo I probably would have skipped it due to a really late happy hour excursion the night before. Anyways. We got in at about 2pm, found an actual parking garage with open spots, and walked over to the grounds. I immediately ran into LadyWench, and then Beth and her crowd, before heading down Washington Street to check out the stage area. There I ran into Maureen, Lisa, the FruVirgins, and GordonLew. We mapped out stage strategy before mom and I headed out to shop. We ended up over by the Puppet Parade staging area, watching the preparations for this ultra-cool (in a strange way) event. I think Gordon was right, and the parade was shorter this year. It's still a kick to watch all the puppets, and I adore the drummers. Did you all notice the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band guy, with the John Lennon puppet? Well, we ended up back at the stage before the puppets arrived so we got to see both ends of the parade. After that, we just claimed our spots and stocked up on beverages for the show. Time flew since we were in the midst of a very large and familiar crowd, although I did meet some great new faces: hi, Sam I Am and Maureen's FruVirgins! Now, the show. They opened with the regular Sahara, which I never understand: Sahara just doesn't seem to have the momentum to open a show properly unless it builds up like the extended version. I know at least one person who agrees with me on this. Next was BJ, excellent as always. Banter folowed about the great weather, and how great it was compared to Toronto where the igloos were finally melting...there's a very brief warm period in Toronto, and Mike says the month in which it occurs is called "Connecticut." Jian talked about capitalism a bit, and then Murray mentioned the fact that although they like a lot of other bands and appreciate fans supporting these other bands, "that guy in the Eddie From Ohio shirt over there? You'll have to leave. I'm sorry. We just can't have that kind of thing here." Next up was the fabulous Video Bargainville, non-accordian-keyboard-disco-version. I've never cared too much for this song until I heard this version. I was standing in front of the monitors and can't be the best judge of sound, but it seemed to me that the keybaord was a bit muted on this song compared to the FRFF debut. Still a fantastic song and a treat for those who hadn't heard it before. Medicine Show followed, to my amazement...just when I was SURE their setlists were getting rather predictable! Banter followed, mostly the crowd-surfing commenst you've heard about in other reviews, but what about the advice to "keep a pusher near you at all times?" Moon was next. I like Moon. They followed that up with yet MORE banter about the CD release, followed by some short snippets from U2 and Hootie and the Blowfish. Then they played Half as Much, and When She Talks...was anyone else besides me and Mike distracted by the loud conversation at the panel to the side of the stage? Mike finally got their attention and shushed 'em with a finger to his lips. Way to go, Mike. "As Tina Turner said...we don't need another hero!" So started King of Spain, which very nearly didn't start at all after Mike made the "I'm Monkey Boy!" comment. Murray was holding the pitch pipe to his mouth but was laughing too hard to actually use it...it was adorable! He was completely lost to the Giggles. When Mike said, pre-epilogue, that "the next song will be a better time for me to come out from behind the congas and beat you up," it was kinda obvious what song would follow. The GE&H Monkey Boy attack was a lot of fun...Mike was obviously having a great time during this show. Boo Time was next, then Splatter...with a Blair Witch intro. Jian said that the movie scared him a lot despite the fact that he hasn't actually SEEN it yet. Fly was lovely, of course...the band was really into it. Next more banter: Murray's obvious discomfort in the heat led to promises of his very own firetruck to hose him down. Firetruck became Friar Tuck, somehow (Mike's mind works in scary ways) and a bit of a Robin Hood moment ensued. This was the last big banter break of the show. The next songs were, in order: Tureen, Saucep'n, MBLABOA, Get in the Car, and Psycho Killer...all fairly standard and extremely well-done. Back for an encore, they played Michigan Militia and I went off to a corner for a while. Sorry, but I'm so sick of this song I just can't stomach it any more. They got called out for another encore, fortunately, with the MC asking "should we stick to the timeclock or have 'em do another?" and the crowd's enthusiastic response. That gave us My Poor Generation, probably my favorite new song and a lovely closer. What a great show! We had to get back and didn't want to drive on Route 7 and the Taconic in the pitch-dark, so I remained just long enough to chat with Dave and say some quick goodbyes before heading back to Rochester. My sincere thanks to all who were so nice to my mother...she had a great time, and never seemed to lack someone to chat with! I'm pressing her to get a Frumiles card. This was her third show, after all. This Früvous thing MUST be genetically linked somehow. - -kimberly - -feeling much better today ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 05:46:48 GMT From: aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (Aleigh) Subject: Re: whine whine whine >Check your tour schedule again, dear. There is a Washington show >listed on Saturday, November 20. Venue TBD. Which I would imagine to be the 930 club again, because they filled up that place last time they were there. That or the Birchmere, but that would sell out reeeally quickly. Aleigh http://i.am/not_your_broom ...your reliable source for everything "You can't see heaven when you're standing tall...to get the whole sky, on the ground you have to lie"~Linnell (Thunderbird) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 07:08:23 GMT From: nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: Buffalo Hotels for NYE On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 20:57:10 GMT, someone who looked like Brent & Marianne Miller whispered: >For last year's Tralf shows in Buffalo (Nov. 98) our room >was $98. This year at the same hotel the lowest rate was >$299. Our second call didn't prove much better, that hotel >was sold out. The third hotel was not accepting reservations >until the management decided what they were going to do. Our >advice, start calling now. This is New Year's Eve 1999. All those zeros are driving up prices everywhere. My family and I were planning on spending New Year's in Las Vegas, until we discovered that an average room--an AVERAGE room, mind you, with two lumpy beds and a tolerably clean bathroom--was going for $3,000. A night. With a three night minimum stay. Needless to say, we laughed real hard and are now planning on a nice restaurant somewhere (yes, we know we'll get dinged, but not by ten grand). Prices should calm down after everybody gets used to the zeros. - --nicole twn *** "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part that wonders what the part that isn't thinking isn't thinking of."--They Might Be Giants Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is INCORRECT! Think of it as an intelligence test. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 09:16:35 GMT From: YOURSLICE@aol.com Subject: Important subject if you collect Frumiles My Frumiles card clearly says "valid until end of this Millennium". I keep hearing people on this list state that they only have until the end of this year to get their frumiles. I just wanted to inform all of you that the new millennium begins on January 1, 2001. This is because there was no year 0. Therefore, 1000 years after the year 1 was 1001 (the first millennium) and 1000 years after that would be 2001...the year our cards expire. That's right...we have a FULL year and 4+ months left! Sorry if this has been discussed before. Can't wait to see you at shows this fall (I WANT TO MEET MORE OF YOU!!!!) Psycho Mike ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #673 ********************************************