From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #600 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, July 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 600 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: *itinerary* ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Blurb in the newspaper [Mjgreenb@aol.com] Re: OT: Guster . . . sorta :) [Chad Maloney ] Buying Thornhill [hero93@aol.com (Hero93)] Re: OT: Peter Himmelman [Tim Cain ] Re: Advance Ordering 'Thornhill' [chad schrock ] Re: Buying Thornhill ["KatieWow" ] Jian on Grumps (again) [drea1@my-deja.com] Annoying newbie concert ramblings... [Leareth ] Re: *itinerary* [Jihead1@aol.com] Re: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... [Jihead1@aol.com] Re: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... ["KatieWow" ] Re: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... [Leareth ] Re: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... [Leareth Subject: Re: *itinerary* Josh Woodward wrote: > > Moxy Fruvous wrote: > > : Fri Sept 17 Detroit, MI Magic Bag > > Sweet! This is a great venue for the guys. It's just the right size (a > bit narrow and long, but still nice). They're a little anal about taping > (I had to jump through hoops to tape Jennifer Kimball a few months ago) > but that's ok. Woohoo! Plus it will be retribution for their infamous last show there in... help me out her old farts... '94? When there were like 16 people in the audience and 10 of those were from Canada. I wasn't there, but I wish I had been. A.J. - -- Mariaweb will be updated soon! See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:37:10 GMT From: Mjgreenb@aol.com Subject: Re: Blurb in the newspaper Directions to the Seaport Directions By car: From West Side, George Washington Bridge, Lincoln and Holland Tunnel: take West Street southbound past World Trade and World Financial Centers. Follow signs to FDR Drive. Take underpass, keep right - use exit 1 at end of underpass. Turn right on South Street, six blocks. From East Side, take FDR Drive south to exit 3 onto South Street. Proceed on South Street about 1 mile. By subway: 2,3,4,5,J,Z or M to Fulton Street; A and C trains to Broadway - Nassau; E train to World Trade Center, Walk east on Fulton Street (away from World Trade Center Towers) to Walter Street. By bus: Take M15 (South Ferry sign) down 2nd Avenue to Fulton Street. Parking Over 3,000 spaces in paid parking lots within a 6-block radius. For more information on the area, visit www.downtownny.com. Mike G ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:29:50 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: OT: Guster . . . sorta :) Bballmick wrote: > > Sorry all but I have a quick questiont..why would they play under a pseudonym? All I have to say is Bole[1]. Okay, I'll say more. It's hard to be a musician that's in constant public scrutiny (no matter how big or caring your public is). When a band is good (or really good in the case of Guster) they get crowds to come and see them. Then there's competition for getting in the smaller places so they play bigger places and it gets less cozy and personal. Well, sometimes you may want that cozy personal show back. So a big rock band like Pearl Jam or someone will schedule a secret little club date at like the Double Door in Chicago or something just to surprise some people. Or take Bole for instance. A well known Canadian band was having skyrocket success and selling out very large venues. But they wanted to test out some new songs and check for audience reaction. Well, that's really really hard to do. It shows a lot of trust in the fans when a band can come out and play their new songs before they are shined up and forever burnt into media. They could do a song once for a crowd, take it back and woodshed it, and do it again completely different just testing the crowd. What does that get a band? A bunch of hardcore fans who ate it up the first time the new song was played and bought into it completely asking why they took the _____ out of ___________ when they played it at ___'_ ______ on ______. So that band calls itself Bole and plays some shows. As you get bigger you lose avenues that are useful to a band. It gets harder to play to a clean slate audience. Expectations get set and they may not be exactly what the band intended. So why not have fun, call yourself Bole, and go out and play some small shows and see how things go. Or probably with Guster, why not play under a different name and see who comes out to the charity event and reward them with a really great show. Or I could just be rationalizing crazy people from Guster. But they know Hungry Like the Wolf[1][2]. - Chad [1] Isn't the new FDC search engine wonderful? It allows you to understand Chad's posts a bit more because you too can look up obscure Fruvous references and read about events in Fruvous's past. [2] That line is solely for the enjoyment of Josh Woodward. Any other enjoyment anyone else is purely accidental. Unless Sheryl reads it too. She'd enjoy it as well. Note no mention was made of pepporoni nipples at all because that just.. that's just gross. [3] [3] All this is from a Guster show in Cleveland by the way. The band was, shall we say, a little tipsy and immensely enjoying themselves. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jul 1999 00:08:37 GMT From: hero93@aol.com (Hero93) Subject: Buying Thornhill When Fruvous came to LA early this year, a buddy of mine asked me to pick him up some of the band's CD's at the show - specifically You Will Go to the Moon and the Live CD. I told him that both of these were available in stores if he wanted to get them right away (the Roxy show was, like, a week off). Plus, in the case of some of the record stores here in LA, they might even be significantly cheaper. "Yeah," he said, "but this way I support the band. This way they get *all* the money from the sale." So the question then becomes: what's the best way to buy Thornhill? If I buy it directly from Fruvous they probably do get more of the money, yes? However, if I buy it from a store, they might get less money, but doesn't doing this help them with their rep, as well as sales figures? I know I'm just talking about one or two sales here, but which way helps the band more? Any ideas? - -WCDave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:49:51 GMT From: Tim Cain Subject: Re: OT: Peter Himmelman >Me, too. I'm just glad I happened to be involved in the Minneapolis >music scene in the 80s. There were so many good bands then: What? No mention of The Blue Up? They were the greatest! - -- t(I remember when First Avenue was called Sam's)c === "What Demi Moore does is not acting." -- Helen Mirren _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:57:35 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: Advance Ordering 'Thornhill' Lindsay Lion wrote: > > Does anyone know if these places deliver or just ship on the 10th? If you pay for next-day service, cdnow.com will most likely have it to you on the 10th. (Always safe to ask them, though.) - -- chad at radix dot net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:19:41 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Buying Thornhill i would say that the *best* way would be to call jude and order it from her. many venues take a cut of the merch sales. album sales don't really profit the band much across the board, though. live shows are where the money is. ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org **************************************************** "You're not going to Canada unless that room's clean!" - --My Dad, 6.27.99 **************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:50:40 GMT From: drea1@my-deja.com Subject: Jian on Grumps (again) Things you see flipping channels, part 3 *g* While changing channels last night around 11, I found to my surprise that Jian was making another appearance on the Canadian tv show Grumps. The topic apparently was gambling (I'd missed the first 5 mins or so), and he made quite a few good points. (Not to mention getting in a shot or two at the Harris gov't *g*) Yes, the obvious song came to mind :) The really funny part about all this - during every commercial break, the commercial for the "Winning Slot Strategies" videotape with James Coburn was shown! Interesting timing if nothing else *g* Drea "Don't hate me because I'm anorexic." - Angie, July 3/99 "Dave's banjo, Mike's artwork, and Murray's a great guy!" - - Jian, June 16/99 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:51:37 -0400 From: Leareth Subject: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... Well.... it rather sucks when two weeks before Falcon Ridge you find out that your online friend who was planning a big trip up there is suddenly broke and the whole thing is getting called off..... especially when you've already asked for the time off from work. And while Früvous was the main reason I wanted to go, I /did/ want to learn more about Ani DiFranco, actually see Elvis Costello, maybe get inspired to restart my musical obsessions. I was really really looking forward to getting to hear The Drinking Song live, maybe get up the nerve to actually ask for an autograph... and experience Früvous among friends, as the only people who I know who love them are all online friends I've never met... they're the ones who got me listening.... and I was looking forward to getting to meet all of /them/ too. For the past few days I'd been all depressed about my once-again-boring summer... .... But then I finally get myself back together... find out updated concert information.... and... A Gift from the Heavens! A show at the South Street Seaport August 13th! Wazooooo! A short (well, pretty long in actuality, but /relatively/ short!) subway ride away.... for free! And early enough that I don't have to worry about going home to the Bronx at midnight! And I'd have gotten Thornhill by then (is it still coming out on the 10th, or was that date arbitrarily picked by my subconscious?), so I might actually recognize some new songs... oh... Joy of Joys, truly!!! .... except for the little fact that my mom is probably coming, yikes... she will be hoping for them to do a full version of Green Eggs and Ham, only song by them that she seems to like, and... well... it's not enough to make a dent in my newfound happiness. ^____^ - -- Leareth, being boring. You won't have to listen to me babble much, really! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:00:30 GMT From: Jihead1@aol.com Subject: Re: *itinerary* In a message dated 7/15/99 2:34:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jacey7@aol.com writes: << >>Tues Aug 10 Rochester, NY Record Archive - special acoustic instore Tues Aug 10 Rochester, NY Milestones - WBER fundraiser with Sarah Slean Fri Aug 13 New York, NY Sam Goody 'outstore' - South St. Seaport Sat Aug 14 Northampton, MA Northampton Folk Festival Mon Aug 16 Ocean City, NJ Ocean City Music Pier Tues Aug 17 Philadelphia, PA WXPN - co-host morning show Tues Aug 17 Bryn Mawr, PA The Point - live taping of the World Cafe<< OK, so how tempted am I to just take that whole week off of work and put lots and lots of miles on my car?? ;-) >> I AM!!!!!!!!!!!! = ) Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:22:41 GMT From: Jihead1@aol.com Subject: Re: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... In a message dated 7/15/99 10:33:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Leareth@mindspring.com writes: << And while Früvous was the main reason I wanted to go, I /did/ want to learn more about Ani DiFranco, actually see Elvis Costello, >> Is Elvis playing Falcon Ridge?!?!?!??! Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:47:16 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... actually, elvis will be a couple of hours away in rome, NY at woodstock. why, i don't know. ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org **************************************************** "You're not going to Canada unless that room's clean!" - --My Dad, 6.27.99 **************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:43:04 -0400 From: Leareth Subject: Re: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... Jihead1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/15/99 10:33:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Leareth@mindspring.com writes: > > << And while Früvous was > the main reason I wanted to go, I /did/ want to learn more about Ani > DiFranco, actually see Elvis Costello, >> > > Is Elvis playing Falcon Ridge?!?!?!??! > > Lisa Bills Ack, don't take my word for it, but I could /swear/ that one of the raves my friend had had about going to Falcon Ridge was getting to see Elvis Costello... but then again, it could be that damned confusing subconscious of mine. ^^;;;;; Big giant SOWWIES for getting any hopes up if I'm wrong!! - -- Embarrassed Leareth. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:56:21 GMT From: McCown Subject: Re: *itinerary* Lindsay informed us: <> and then Eric said: <> the very nice man i talked to at the point promised to call me when he finds out about times and things like that. my mother and i made sure we warned him about the fact that a few people (aside from us) might possibly be calling for info :) he didn't seem scared, so that's good. but i think we've got all the info we're going to get for now. 'xpn was little help to us either...we kept getting people's darn voice mail. argh. oh well, if need be, i guess i can just sort of live at the point 'til i get some tickets. it's not enitrely unplausible--it's quite a cozy little place. good food, too :) love lizzie (sorry to be of so little help!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:53:51 -0400 From: Leareth Subject: Re: Annoying newbie concert ramblings... I wrote: [whoo, creating my own little thread here.] > Jihead1@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/15/99 10:33:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > Leareth@mindspring.com writes: > > > > << And while Früvous was > > the main reason I wanted to go, I /did/ want to learn more about Ani > > DiFranco, actually see Elvis Costello, >> > > > > Is Elvis playing Falcon Ridge?!?!?!??! > > > > Lisa Bills > > Ack, don't take my word for it, but I could /swear/ that one of the raves > my friend had had about going to Falcon Ridge was getting to see Elvis > Costello... but then again, it could be that damned confusing > subconscious of mine. ^^;;;;; Big giant SOWWIES for getting any hopes up > if I'm wrong!! > > -- > Embarrassed Leareth. I think I realized my Big Giant Boo-Boo.... Jian (I think?) talking about the Fleadh festival (which I /didn't/ get to go to, despite it being on Randall's Island, grr grr), mentioning Elvis Costello (this was at the Clearwater revival), me fixating on Falcon Ridge, brain going ~duuuuuuuuuuhh.... Fruvous at Fleadh, Fruvous at Falcon Ridge... means... Elvis at Fleadh, Elvis at Falcon Rigde!~ And I believed it, too. Silly me. 'Specially since my friend Billy isn't fond of folk music but loves Elvis Costello, should have clicked some 'Elvis Costello not folk music' warning in the /logical part of my brain.... (isn't this a big enough clue that I've heard maybe five of his songs in my entire life?) Aww, hell.... let me just admit to making a Stupid and be done with it. - -- Leareth hugs her stupid side. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #600 ********************************************