From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #561 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, July 5 1999 Volume 03 : Number 561 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Clearwater [review] [zardsnod@aol.com (ZardSnod)] Review: Friendship Festival 7/3/99 [CheesemonkeyGem ] Re: Veroncia's Biological Background [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.qu] Re: Clarendon and the lack of a map [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.que] Re: Sugar Shock [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: Ft. Erie Setlist + babble [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.c] NY Metro Folk Festival [Mjgreenb@aol.com] Re: A couple o' questions..... [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.] Rodney Elin Update [traugottcm@aol.com (TraugottCM)] Re: Ft. Erie Setlist + babble ["KatieWow" ] Re: Ft. Erie Setlist + babble [Bridget ] Re: Rodney Elin Update ["Adam Hartfield" ] lit mag? [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: Mushy OT!!!!! [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] OT: Re: Weird Crossing-Border Conversations ["A.J. LoCicero" ] http://personal1.iddeo.es/tote/index.htm ["Arm" ] Re: Review: Friendship Festival 7/3/99 ["Gramcracker" ] Re: debs did her homework: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ITC INTRO... [truztno1 >Kudos to whoever it was that managed the feat, I only wish I could have >>been there to witness it. >> > >The interpeter was Dave McCloskey who also signs at Falcon Ridge. If he's the guy with grey hair, a beard, and twinkly eyes, he's had a couple of years to practice doing Saucep'n (when Fruvous was at Falcon Ridge before), and he's a durned good signer, so I wouldn't doubt that he had every word down pat! I loved watching Vance Gilbert play with him, when he put his guitar in Dave Mc.'s hands, and attempted to sign along with his own lyrics. A great moment in folk history - both of them seemed pretty lost! - -Zard From a contest in the Wash. Post Style Invitational: "Rene Decartes Before the Horse - I am, therefore I think" - Bob Dalton, TX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:55:06 GMT From: CheesemonkeyGem Subject: Review: Friendship Festival 7/3/99 to comment on paul's review: >I also got to talk to Tobey on >the "Other Side"... I remembered that I was legal >(ahh, the joy of being 20 in Canada.), and could go >into that "other area" where the alcohol was being >served. I felt so proud getting carded and passing :-) break on thru, to the other side... you got carded? i just walked past the guard guy, and he looked at me and didnt say anything. Man, how did you get carded and me not? i just turned 19 and i dont even feel i LOOK it, IMHO. >Show notes... (things that I can still remember...) >"No Goal!", and Jian's pointing right at me, and then >giving me the'cut it out' look.. or maybe he was just >signaling to Cal. well, im pretty sure he was looking at you too, you made some sort of gesture or comment involving buffalo or something while they were talking about it and jian said something, grinning at you or something (oh man, arent these descriptions just too vivid?) i shoulda brought my stars jersey. i KNEW i shoulda! >Of course there wasn't too much hostility between >Buffalonians and Torontonians... no, but there was some between a certain sicko Sabre fan and a certain stars-lovin cheesemonkey... ;) >What really got me peeved was that Mike won a $25 bet >on the Stars. (More about that later.) my brother Mike (holy crap, too many mikes in the world) won a 50 dollar bet the stars would be the champs! >Cheesemonkey.... Jen, it was a pleasure meeting you, >and you saved yourself from becoming lakebait by not >wearing your Dallas Stars jersey Oh dont worry, you'll be seeing me and my Dallas jersey in TO next week! (i own two, so maybe i can bring one for you to wear too? HAHA!) - -jen jen stars fan === ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Behold the power of cheese" - -American Dairy Association's slogan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jul 1999 12:33:54 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Veroncia's Biological Background No, no, not a professor (I wish!) Just a lowly undergrad. Although, I *am* a fourth year now, so not so lowly, I guess! (American translation: senior) I just have the biology there 'cause, as the co-chair of the biology undergrad students council I do a lot of e-mailing profs and deans and stuff. Anyway, e-mail me privately so we don't waste any more of people's valuable time and we'll chat! :) :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jul 1999 13:17:00 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Clarendon and the lack of a map Well, I'd take MapQuest in this case as being *fairly* accurate. This is 'cause I knew that Clarendon was somewhere between Ottawa and Kingston. But since that's... ummm... a *lot* of space, I decided to go hunting, and there it was, more or less where I expected it to be. Good city. :) Veronica (I hate recognizing Ontario cicites but not being able to place where they are on the map in my head) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jul 1999 13:24:19 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Sugar Shock Nanaimo bars are a wonderful, wonderful, *extreemly* sweet bar which hails from some fancy schmancy hotel in Nanaimo, BC (that's *British Columbia*!! :) They have a layer of... cake? Brownie? Not quite sure what it is, but it involves chocolate and coconut. Then there's a layer of orange-ish stuff (can you tell I've never made these, only consumed them?) and, to top it all off, a layer of pure chocolate. I think I'll have one for lunch... :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jul 1999 13:10:40 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Ft. Erie Setlist + babble It was a baboon!! A large, stuffed, baboon. I was kinda hoping it would inspire a little more teasing. It's precisely why I would not wear the fish hat as Lori suggested. (I'll let her field that one! :) Besides, I figure the death-stares during Boss were bad enough... shakey shakey... The bad part about being tall is that you can't hide behind others when you're causing trouble. (It's all Lori's fault!!) :) Veronica (I shoudl decide to drive to concerts at 3 pm more often. Maybe next time I can aviod winiding up in Buffalo, too...) US Customs guy: Citizenship? Me: Canadian. US CG: Purpose of visit? Me: To turn around... - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:31:17 GMT From: Mjgreenb@aol.com Subject: NY Metro Folk Festival OK Fruheads! I am surprised by now that the NY Metro area does not have its own folk festival. The closest we came was having that Guinness Flea Festival. I am sorry but Hootie and the Blowfish are about as folk as the Gin Blossoms. Does anyone have suggestions or information about getting one started? Mike ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jul 1999 15:19:37 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: A couple o' questions..... Well, isn't it all our fault anyway??! :) :) Veronica "Canadians, say about... now Americans, mock them." - 7/3 - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: 05 Jul 1999 15:23:33 GMT From: traugottcm@aol.com (TraugottCM) Subject: Rodney Elin Update Hello all! For those of you who know Rodney Elin, a DC area fruhead, I wanted to give you an update on how he is doing. Zard and I visited Rodney last week. He is able to sit up for an hour or two at a time, and is able, with difficulty to carry on a conversation. It takes him a while to complete sentances, and he has to really concentrate, but he enjoys the interaction. He still can't move his left arm or leg, but does have feeling there, so everyone is hopeful. He is doing between 4 and 7 hours of physical, occupational and speech therapy a day, and has made significant progress since coming to the National Rehabilitation hospital. He definitely has his sense of humor back, and joked around with Zard and me during our visit. On his bedside table, he has the picture of Fruvous that Jian signed and sent down to him, so Jian, if you are reading this, thank you for sending it. He is absolutely delighted with it and pointed it out to Zard and me and soon as we walked in the room. Rodney will be at the National Rehabilitation Hospital until 7/24/99, when his insurance runs out. After that, if he is able to fly, he will go to his parents house in San Diego to continue his recovery. If anyone would like to send him cards or letters, they can be mailed to: Rodney Elin c/o National Rehabilitation Hospital Room 303 102 Irving Street NW Washington, DC, 20010 chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:04:36 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Ft. Erie Setlist + babble >US Customs guy: Citizenship? >Me: Canadian. >US CG: Purpose of visit? >Me: To turn around... sounds like my adventure out :). Canadian Customs: Citizenship? Me: US CC: Where are you headed? Me: That currency exchange up there. CC: Excuse me? Me: I didn't realize there wasn't one on this side . . . - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org **************************************************** "You're not going to Canada unless that room's clean!" - --My Dad, 6.27.99 **************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:34:43 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: Ft. Erie Setlist + babble - --- Donna Hunt wrote: > Thanks to three clueless but helpful stage guys > (One of which looked > remarkably like Jax from General Hospital) ;) > I got a hold of Murray's > setlist. well, let me just say it's about freakin' time!!! (o: > To borrow a format of Bridget's, I'll sum up > with a "Best of" list. :) oh... how sweet! i'm a legend... > Happy Independence Day! Go Blow something up! done and done! glad everyone had a great time at the friendship fest... while i sit here in the früdeprived colorado. === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "Dave Matheson's banjo, Mike Ford's artwork... and Murray's a great guy!!" ~Jian, 6/16/99 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:52:06 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: Rodney Elin Update > For those of you who know Rodney Elin, a DC area fruhead, I wanted to give you > an update on how he is doing. Chris, thanks for the update. I'd been wondering how he's doing, and I'm glad to hear he's recovering. - --Adam adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: 05 Jul 1999 16:50:33 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: lit mag? please pardon my blatant newbie-ness...but some one mentionted >>Frü Lit-Mag<< i checked the faq...but i still dont know what it is...someone inlighten me? thanks smiles genna ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jul 1999 16:42:03 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Mushy OT!!!!! LOL!! This line from my unspeakable wife and yours... you know who... >So I DO like this tape quite a bit but I think Dana summed it up -- >"They're kinda like Moxy Fruvous but a lot more famous and not as good." ...absolutely cracked me up! :) I can remember the days (way back in the early 90's... scary...) when every single radio station, newspaper, interviewer and listener compared them to the Barenaked Ladies! :) I just thought this was an hilarious turn on the old question! :) "One day they'll be saying 'Barenaked Ladies? Oh, they're the guys who sound like Moxy Fruvous!'" - BJ, AM640 Toronto, July 17, 1993 (aka the release date of B'ville... I think that's the date... the tape I made of it oh-so-many years ago is at home) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:58:48 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: OT: Re: Weird Crossing-Border Conversations Snow In Summer wrote: > there are some more, but a) i'm too tired & 2) nothing can compare to what Nate > & Adam had to go through getting to Pte. Claire [1] True, but there is always room for more good ones. My 2 favorites of late: Crossing back into the US after the Windsor show with MC and hKath: Customs: Citizenship? Me: US Customs: (without waiting for an answer from the Canadians) Go ahead. Me: (in shock) But but... ok. (Zoom) and Crossing again from Windsor to Detroit with Norg, MC, and hKath: The guy asked our citizenships. Norg and I replied "US," hKath and MC replied Canadian. Customs guy checks their ID and starts asking them questions about where they go to school whatnot. Obviously he is trying to make sure that they arn't a couple of underage teens that Norg and I are transporting across a border for illicit purposes. (If only he KNEW!) ;) Anyway, in the course of the discussion he learns that hKath and MC are studying film, so when he is satisfied that we don't have anything in the car worth searching for he starts talking about how he used to teach film and had they seen this movie and that movie and how they really should go rent them. He kept this up for over five minutes before letting us go! Observation: If you want to smuggle something over the border, give it to a married couple with a baby, not to teenagers, college students, or guys that look like they could be bikers! A.J. - -- Mariaweb last updated 5/13/99. See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jul 1999 17:07:32 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Getting Newbies Hooked Someone in the shape of a Flamingo said: - -- Lori, a mere 5 *minutes* from the Center of the Universe :) Lori, when did you move to Toronto?! :) :) Veronica (who knows where the *real* centre of the universe is... and can spell the word "centre" :) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 01:04:23 +0200 From: "Arm" Subject: http://personal1.iddeo.es/tote/index.htm http://personal1.iddeo.es/tote/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:22:20 -0400 From: "Gramcracker" Subject: Re: Review: Friendship Festival 7/3/99 Paul Mischler sez: > Welcome to a new frufan, > Megan (sp?) joined us in our trek to Ft. Erie. it's Meghan, with an "H" :-) > Border Crossing: (As best I can remember it ;-) > Customs Agent: "Where are you from?" > Chrissy: Buffalo, New York > Customs Agent: "Where are you headed?" > Chrissy: "Friendship Festival" > Customs Agent: "Are you carrying any weapons or illegal drugs?" > Chrissy: "No." > Customs Agent: "Do you know what time it is?" > Chrissy: "uhh.... it's... uhh... 4, uh... 4:30..." > Customs Agent: "You mean you don't know exactly what time it is?" > Amy S: *whisper* "it's 4:43! it's 4:43!!!" > Chrissy: "it's 4:43." > Customs Agent: "Okay, go ahead." (whatever you do, don't ask Chrissy what time it is. ever.) another customs adventure, on the way home: Customs lady: "Nationality?" My dad: "United states." Customs lady looked at me. I was tired, I nodded. Customs lady to me: "So your nationality is *nod*?" Me: "Yeah... I mean, United States." > Monkey! Monkey! This group of people had a big stuffed monkey. > (baboon?) Well, it made its way onto the stage. I found out later that > the people were really shouting at the stage, and really ticked off a > bunch of the people in front of them... (Much like U of R, or Utica > shows...) oh well. I guess alcohol + people doesn't mix. yeah, i was (un)lucky enough to be in front of the monkey crowd.. and except for one funny crack, (after "...the song that should have been number one..." someone in the crowd yelled "The Monkey Mash!") they were mostly just annoying. smoochies, meghan - -- - -------- "Life . . . is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that no one ever asks for. Unreturnable because all you get back is another box of chocolates. So, you're stuck with mostly undefinable whipped mint crap, mindlessly wolfed down when there's nothing else to eat while you're watching the game. Sure, once in a while you get a peanut butter cup or an English toffee but it's gone too fast and the taste is fleeting. In the end, you're left with nothing but broken bits filled with hardened jelly and teeth shattering nuts, which if you are desperate enough to eat leaves nothing but an empty box of useless brown paper wrappers." - -Cancerman, "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man" - -------- ICQ# 17903747 http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/4448 gramcracker@geocities.com - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:41:35 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: Rodney Elin Update In article <19990705112333.12836.00007078@ng-fx1.aol.com>, traugottcm@aol.com says... > Rodney will be at the National Rehabilitation Hospital until 7/24/99, when his > insurance runs out. After that, if he is able to fly, he will go to his > parents house in San Diego to continue his recovery. This sounds a little alarming...after his insurance runs out, will he be able to receive any further therapy he might need? If not, is there some kind of fund set up to contribute to that end? k@ ------------------------------ Date: 05 Jul 1999 20:10:51 GMT From: michykith@aol.com (Michykith) Subject: Re: female? voice First, Vika said.... >> I hear something very similar, except "One by one, Lord..." etc. >> >> Makes sense, but is it right?.. >> I agree, that's what I always heard. And it goes along with the explanation I remember hearing. Then, A.J.... >What I'm remembering is >that it is a snippet of some wacko religious tape that they found in the >studio from some previous user, or something like that. > > Yeah, I read that too, it's somewhere on FDC. I remember Murray saying they sped it up a little too. This is bringing back memories from last summer, when I bought Wood. Turning up the volume really loud to decipher the mumbling of the guys at the beginning...Never could figure it out though. ~Joni * * * * "the stars are silver notes across that sky now..." ------------------------------ Date: 05 Jul 1999 20:58:39 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: Ft. Erie Setlist + babble aha! >> Best "toy" at the festival: Lori's "Pisco" um... Hat? :) Hours of fun >> for children of all ages! > >Lori, 'splain? Ssssssssshhhh! the versatile recycled and recyclable wonder that was my acquisition at this festival has not yet been spotted by certain Persons! Looks like a vase, or maybe a fluorescent prophylactic .... part puppet, part mask, all fun, it involves no copyright infringement, rest assured. And that is All I Shall Say About It Until Annapolis, which is the next appropriate venue for it to grace. - -- Lori, uncharacteristically mum ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:03:46 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Re: Under the Covers with fruvous ;D CheesemonkeyGem wrote: > okay, i have more covers i would love to hear... > > Monday Monday, by the Mamas and the Papas with Dave on > lead ( i can totally hear this now), You've Got A > Friend by James Taylor with Murray or Mike on lead, > and Happy Together by the Turtles with Jian on lead. > i love these songs! > > -jen > === > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Behold the power of cheese" > -American Dairy Association's slogan > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com speaking of covers, i was just thinking the other day that green day's "time of your life" *could* possibly have a fruvous sound.... ~truztno1 ________________________________________________________________ Scully: Is there a plan, a purpose or a reason to our existence? Will we pass, as those before us, into oblivion, into the sixth extinction that scientists warn is already in progress? -- "Biogenisis", The X-Files-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:04:38 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Re: debs did her homework: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ITC INTRO... Bridget wrote: > > Nope. This particular question was addressed > > at FruCon II. The high > > voice is actually Mike's voice. I think they > > said it was recorded > > slow and then sped up on playback, or > > something. I'm no good with > > technical details, maybe someone else can chime > > and give a better > > description. > > > > -- > > Trace > > trace@frumail.org > > that's kinda what i remember, too, trace... but > i'm no techie, either!! of course, makes you > wonder if we can trust the lads' explanation of > the 'it's too cold' intro when they so BLATANTLY > lie in the very same interview. hmm... > > === > over 'n' out > xoxoxo > bridget i've done some minimal techie work in the sound field especially (hence the gaffer's tape quote that you might have seen), and though that doesn't sound like some huge complicated mish-mash techie language, their explanation is quite plausible. that's how it also works with video scenes in slo-mo sometimes- they record a scene extra fast, and then play it back at normal speed to make it seem slow. hoped that helped. (though i'm pretty sure it didn't) : ) ~truztno1 _____________________________________ "Oy vey." --Ross M., uttering Yiddish phrases at the unexplainable antics of the middle school LitMag staffers. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #561 ********************************************