From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #552 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, July 2 1999 Volume 03 : Number 552 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: about the "hell [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] hello all! ["Tim Deegan" ] Re: testing, testing, testing ... [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: about the "hell [SpainLB@aol.com] Re: 'Ne'er been kizzed' [luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria)] Re: testing, testing, testing ... [luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria)] not quite a review (some comments on clearwater...a little late) [shadoem] I invented tapping, by Marc Frucht [Marc Frucht ] Re: hello all! [luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria)] Toronto date ["Frank J. Gaspar" ] Fru-concert suggestion: New Hope,PA [SpainLB@aol.com] Re: behold the power of tofu [chad schrock ] Re: Getting Newbies Hooked [Donna Hunt ] more austin-moxy nonsense [acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78)] Re: Fru-concert suggestion: New Hope,PA [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Mar] Re: Go Straight to Hell. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. (was Re: ESCAPING HELL!) [tsalyers@dimensional.co] Re: Fru-concert suggestion: New Hope,PA [Lawrence P Solomon ] Re: about the "hell ["KatieWow" ] Re: not quite a review (some comments on clearwater...a little late) ["Ka] Re: testing, testing, testing ... [Donna Hunt ] Re: tour [Josh Woodward ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 02 Jul 1999 01:02:00 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: about the "hell Jason Reiser took offense at Veek: >ummm... Vika... I really don't appreciate your... tone? I think we should >all >take a moment and sit down in the grass and think about the imact that our >words >have on one another? Now, while not profane, I'm just *not* sure that was all that constructive, Jason. As a matter of fact, I'm thinking -- someone stop me, please! -- things have really gotten out of control here lately. There is no longer peace, harmony, and caffeine-induced euphoria at amm-f, and maybe we *all* need to take a few deep breaths and visualize the basket. :) - -- Lori **************** I was a troubled soul consumed by voices ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:22:43 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: hello all! Hi, my name is Maggie, and this is my first post here (yay!). I've been a devout Fru-fan since late 1996 when I saw the boys at the Harro East (Rochester). Angie has been a peach (she e-mailed me!) and suggested that I post, so here I am. :) Lemme see... I can't wait for "Thornhill," and the show in Toronto on August 26th will be absolutely...for lack of a better word, delish! I've had a non-stop adrenaline rush ever since I found out that it coincided with my friend's brother's hockey trip to Toronto (which I am *hopefully* going to attend). *YAY!* byebye... Maggie ------------------------------ Date: 02 Jul 1999 01:19:09 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: testing, testing, testing ... Vincent delurked to say: >... is this thing on? Yes it is! hello. this is my first post to ammf. Welcome, Vincent! >is it >me, or are moxy fruvous concerts highly addictive? it's you. it's me. it's all of us. 8-) nutritious and >fortified with all the essentials for a growing body, too! that is the saving grace of this dependency. "i will hold >on" makes me swoon. (yeah, i know, guys aren't supposed to swoon ... but >what can i say? 8-)) swooning is not only permitted but encouraged here, and we have no gender biases. (well, except for mike's sister, but she doesn't post regularly.) I assume that by now you've found your way to the font of timely and useful info that is http://www.fruvous.com. If not, by all means take a gander! - -- Lori, font of timeless useless info ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 01:56:34 GMT From: SpainLB@aol.com Subject: Re: about the "hell In a message dated 7/1/99 9:37:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, srm9988n@aol.composter writes: << There is no longer peace, harmony, and caffeine-induced euphoria at amm-f, and maybe we *all* need to take a few deep breaths and visualize the basket. >> RIGHT ON!!!!! = ) Lisa Bills ------------------------------ Date: 02 Jul 1999 01:53:28 GMT From: luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria) Subject: Re: 'Ne'er been kizzed' Jen said: >woohoo! i thought i was the only one. i dont see a >huge resemblance between murray and david arquette I thought they were talking about the other guy, the one who made her never kissed. Oh well, I could be wrong, I don't even remember what the people in the movie look like anymore, so I wouldn't know. maria pointless..pointless..pointless ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ "We'll finish with the last song because that's normally what we do"-- some guy on a radio program. I fell asleep before I could find out who he was. ------------------------------ Date: 02 Jul 1999 01:46:51 GMT From: luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria) Subject: Re: testing, testing, testing ... Vincent wrote: > p.s. - how's that cowboy hat, marai? 8-) Vincent, my man! Thanks again for the help at the concert. Hehe, it's nice to know you can't spell my name either. :) The cowboy hat says he's doing fine, except, he can't seem to get rid of that wretched dog hair. As Lori and Amanda have said, welcome! Don't lurk too much! maria or should i say "marai"? ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ "We'll finish with the last song because that's normally what we do"-- some guy on a radio program. I fell asleep before I could find out who he was. ------------------------------ Date: 02 Jul 1999 01:41:42 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: not quite a review (some comments on clearwater...a little late) ok, ive posted a few times in the last few days and ive shown my face on mirc. my "formal" introduction to amm-f i made a few months ago, but i called myself "dannete". it's my middle name, but, people who new me on mirc, called me by my real name, and rather than keeping 2 identities i consolidated and became "genna" (pronounced jenna). anyway, clearwater (which i have been to many many times) was my first fru-show. i'm going to spare you an actual review, because there has already been enough of those. but i want to make a few comments. this being my first fru-show, i was wonderfully entertained by their banter (which apperantly is one of their most known and celebrated tallents). but, my favorate thing was during "i will hold on" when jian started to cry (or at least that's what it looked like). i have no idea if he does this normally, but i was increadably moved.to me, that DEFINES music. it is pure emotion and it was beautiful. beautiful. i also got to meat the lads for the first time, at clearwater. they were wonderfully friendly (as, you all already know). murray made fun of the spelling of my name for quite a while before signing my merchandise with my name in quotes and an"(sp)" after it. jian was also wonderfully warm and friendly. i was very happy when in the second show they played my request. the second show was great, if anyone knows the words to the last song that they sang (they sang with kim and reggie harris and magpie...i think it was magpies choice of song) i would really apreciate it. it was also great finding fellow fruheads. living wear i do when people here "moxy fruvous" they respond "gesunteit". although i frequented FDC the existance of fruheads was still nearly non-reality to me my only disapointment was in myself. i seemed to have lost my normally semi-tomboyish self, and found myself giggily and pure girl. it was almost an imbarisment. ok, that's all smiles genna(formerly dannete) (the one in the green patchwork at clearwater--although i'm *almost* ashamed to admitt it) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:44:15 -0500 From: Marc Frucht Subject: I invented tapping, by Marc Frucht A fruvian slip. Read with care... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- You caught me. It was me all along. I invented tapping in the middle 1700's when I was in Paris picking up chicks. There was something majikal about playing the guitar back then. You ended up with scores of wives. I mean before weddings even. They were all willing to call themselves your wife with no strings attached. Imagine a wife in every town taking care of your children with no commitment save for an occasional waltz or sarabande. All you had to do was send a buck or two once in a while or maybe a manuscript to show some progress, and of course you must tell them when you'll be there performing next; if even a year later! Oy! I felt like Mischy Barishokov, I had so many wives. And none of them were formal weddings. So no paternity suits! And all because I could tap. We called it "tokarring" back then. It was my 35th wife, Elena Sanz, who coined the phrase "tapping." "My husband can tap like a racehorse," she was heard saying. And then I was challenged by guitarists all over France, Spain and also Honduras for some strange reason. It wasn't until I got to Chiapas, in the late 1800's before I knew that people had been tapping since long before me. Chiapanecas can tap your socks off. I believe Charo was the best at it, even if she wasn't the first. Oh, April 1, 1894, I remember that date well. Charo and me tapping by the moonlight until 4 am, maybe 5. But then her father came by with a huge musket and called me a "dirty Castillian tapper" and told me if I didn't stay away from Charo he'd have my P, I, M AND my A cut off. Last I knew Charo was married to a cabinetmaker and recorded a dozen or so albums herself. All her children know how to tap. Actually it comes naturally to them. Tapping was a lost art until the 1960's. Before that I thought for sure, I was the only one still doing it. Then suddenly Andres Segovia added tapping to his repertoire. And next thing you know, going into his 70's Segovia's got newborn babies singing his praises in NY, Boston, Paris, and Honduras just like me. Oh, Andres, Viagra's got nothing on you, babe. Everyone knows the story of how Eddie Van Halen learned to tap. He found out about it in a musty old issue of Playboy behind the orange barn in Santa Cruz, CA on a hot september day in 1970. The thirteen year old was reading an interview I gave to George Plimpton where I basically described tapping in full detail. "You put your pinky here..." The story was called "Making Her Sing," but I swear I had nothing to do with the titling. Probably Plimpton's sick sense of humour. Eddie (EVH became his nickname, or Vertical Hold for short) couldn't wait to try it himself. He was doing it in front of television one day and saw a flamenco star named Bertilucci Valderon tapping her little butt off on one of those Brady Bunch type shows and he just knew he had to tap with her. "Get me Valderon," he told his agent on the phone. The agent called her, but she wouldn't return the calls for days. So vertical hold Halen took matters into his own hands. He hopped into his maserati and found out where she'd be driving her mustang. He came to a stop light and speeding up next to her, he tapped into her. The rest is history. They have 72 children, almost all of them of tapping age, and Eddie gives an occasional tapping lesson at one of the local guitar shops; where he still furthers the myth that he invented the techique of tapping. Nah, I don't say anything, because I know who started it. And besides, who else has to know besides you and me? Oh and my wives. Tapped In Wisconsin, marco http://marco.franklins.net On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Craig Nelson wrote: > tapping was a classical technique long before evh or anybody else tried it. correct. > > Steve Cobham wrote in message > news:3774f468.1989896@news.powernet.co.uk... > > On 26 Jun 1999 15:22:37 GMT, magicween@aol.com (Magicween) wrote: > > > > >Give me a specific example to prove me wrong, that guy from Genisis is > known as > > >"The Father of tap". No! What was said, was "that is one tapped daddy." > > > > Harvey mandel before Steve Hackett and before HM some jazz guy, but > > the name escapes me. > > Byrd? Reinhardt? ------------------------------ Date: 02 Jul 1999 02:01:55 GMT From: luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria) Subject: Re: hello all! Welcome Maggie! As I'm sure Angie has told you, fruvous.com is a wonderful place! We can't wait for "Thornhill" either, nor our next show. Delish! Sounds like a new word for me! Have fun posting! maria ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v "We'll finish with the last song because that's normally what we do"-- some performer guy ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v "Mommy, I know what kumbayah means. It means I'm camping and I'm cold" --Christin Lavin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 02:06:15 GMT From: "Frank J. Gaspar" Subject: Toronto date Happy Canada Day everyone, Canadians and honourary Canadians alike :) Just a quick question before I write this national birthday off: who is planning to go to the July 11th gig? Yours, proudly going to hell (remember: you go to heaven for the weather and to hell for the company), Irene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 02:18:15 GMT From: SpainLB@aol.com Subject: Fru-concert suggestion: New Hope,PA Are the guys open to suggestions of places to play? The reason I ask is because since they play in the Penn. area often, they might want to consider playing at a bar called John and Peter's in New Hope, PA. They've had some great bands there and it's a Fruvous kind of place. Does anyone else agree with me or AM I CRAZY? Well, let me rephrase that.....do any PA/NJ people agree? = ) .....forget about answering the *CRAZY* part of that question. hehehe = ) There's also a brewery in Princeton (NJ) called "Triumph" where they have bands play on Wednesdays. I just got back from there and Grey Eyed Glances will be playing on Jul. 7. They're an XPN favorite!!!! Just thought I should ask.... PAZ, Lisa "Jihead" Bills ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:17:24 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: behold the power of tofu Neil Bardhan wrote: > *whimper* This more than anything made me want some poutine. oh, ick. > I consumed tofu for the first time on Father's Day 1999. Same > goes for sake(or is that saki? I mean the Japanese booze). > I'd prefer not to have tofu again. Sake is repeatable, for sure. > I wonder what mom's serving for dinner tonight..... It all depends on how the tofu is prepared. I've had some that has taste and looked like it was made from a ground up hockey puck. I've also had some that I would have sworn was chicken. Never had any sake (that I can remember). - --- chad at covered in cat fur dot net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:27:26 -0700 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: Getting Newbies Hooked chad schrock wrote: > >And that is true. Ignoring all of the odd-ball places that > >they play, like Toronto, California, and Ohio. :) > Ok, hold on, chad, "hon" ;) I'm wading through the 300 messages accrued while I was hobnobbing in VA, and I come across this??? Please don't "yeach" my state! Yeach Toledo if you must, or I also recommend ragging on Cincinasti.... :) Sorry, just spent a long time trying to get back to my state. :) See y'all in Ft. Erie! donna-from-ohio (Yes, really) ------------------------------ Date: 02 Jul 1999 02:37:01 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: more austin-moxy nonsense OK, so I'm resurrecting a dead thread, but I hadn't seen Austin Powers til today, and I don't remember anyone mentioning that Fat Bastard sings a little song to the tune of Spiderman ("Sexy man, sexy man . . ."). Or maybe everyone else was trying not to watch that scene and just succeeding more than I did. Carey "I'm afraid he's about to jump out and grab one of us!" -- my mom's reaction to Jian on the Martyrs webcast ------------------------------ Date: 02 Jul 1999 02:35:23 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: Fru-concert suggestion: New Hope,PA Lisa the Jihead said: >Are the guys open to suggestions of places to play? The reason I ask is >because since they play in the Penn. area often, they might want to consider >playing at a bar called John and Peter's in New Hope, PA. They've had some >great bands there and it's a Fruvous kind of place. Does anyone else agree >with me or AM I CRAZY? I'm crazy too! Practically anyplace in New Hope would be an AMAZING concert site for the lads. And would be a really cool day trip for all the Fruheads. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:47:25 -0600 From: tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers) Subject: Re: Go Straight to Hell. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. (was Re: ESCAPING HELL!) In article <19990701190337.09538.00004353@ng-fg1.aol.com>, shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) says... > you know what my favorate part of the hell theory is? the fact that there is > more than one religion who insists that "non-believers" will go to hell. now, > lets think...doesn that mean that EVERYONE is going to hell? I call shotgun! - -- Tom Salyers "Now is the Windows of our disk contents IRCnick: Aqualung Made glorious SimEarth by this Sun of Zork." Denver, CO --from _Richard v3.0_ http://www.dimensional.com/~tsalyers/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:32:08 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: Re: Fru-concert suggestion: New Hope,PA SpainLB@aol.com wrote: > Are the guys open to suggestions of places to play? The reason I ask is I hope so, because I'd like to suggest that they play in *Pittsburgh* more often... > because since they play in the Penn. area often, they might want to consider > playing at a bar called John and Peter's in New Hope, PA. They've had some > great bands there and it's a Fruvous kind of place. Does anyone else agree > with me or AM I CRAZY? Well, let me rephrase that.....do any PA/NJ people > agree? = ) .....forget about answering the *CRAZY* part of that question. > hehehe = ) I've heard there's a similar place in The Empire Strikes Back, PA and Return of the Jedi, PA, but have no verification of either... (ducking now :) > There's also a brewery in Princeton (NJ) called "Triumph" where they have > bands play on Wednesdays. I just got back from there and Grey Eyed Glances > will be playing on Jul. 7. They're an XPN favorite!!!! They also opened for Fruvous a few shows last summer... so theoretically, anything is possible... - -- Lawrence Solomon http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/ zaph@tmbg.org "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left with stuff in it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:51:33 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: Toronto Question fr. LISA = O Lawrence P Solomon wrote: > chad schrock wrote: > > > Bring some Frücous CDs along. That way you can have about 5 > > hours of music instead. Almost 1/2 the trip! :) > that implies that I have a CD player in my car. How very true. I was really thinking of a discman, which is what I do. > maybe I should buy a discman (generic) and get one of those > cigarette lighter/tape deck plugin things so I can listen to > CDs instead of putting them on tape... That's what I did. Plus my discman doubles as my source of musical entertainment while at work. (Radios are verboten.) > especially since my CD player is old and skips now (took me > forever to dub Live Noise - only for the car, don't worry :) > > although the dubbing thing created some interesting names > in my mind - Bargainwood, the 110 minute tape with Bargainville > on side A and Wood on side B, and the much anticipated "You > Will Go to Thornhill," unless I happen to get a car CD player > between now and August 10. :) Should we have a telethon? :) > > Oh, hon[1], there is a *lot* to do in Toronto. > yeah, I know... and it's been 10 years since I've been there... you'll have a lot to catch up on then. - --- chad at radix dot net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:19:18 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: about the "hell i think i'm putting my feelings before your feelings? i'm having trouble visualizing the basket? ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org **************************************************** "You're not going to Canada unless that room's clean!" - --My Dad, 6.27.99 **************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:15:25 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: not quite a review (some comments on clearwater...a little late) >i was very happy when in the second show they played my request. wow . . . they played your request within a day :) ? usually it takes at least two. it took six weeks for mine :). ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org **************************************************** "You're not going to Canada unless that room's clean!" - --My Dad, 6.27.99 **************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 23:09:06 -0700 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: testing, testing, testing ... "VINCENT G. CICILLINI" wrote: > > ... is this thing on? hello. this is my first post to ammf. VINCENT!!!! Welcome!!!! :) This is donna, who stole, then borrowed, and then bought your MF hat from you! How are ya?? Comin' to Ft. Erie?? Yes, fruvous is addicting, but only if you're of the chosen folk. ;) ciao! donna ------------------------------ Date: 2 Jul 1999 03:42:56 GMT From: Josh Woodward Subject: Re: tour Chad Maloney wrote: : From rumors I've heard from various places (which are not officially sanctioned : at all), there will be a West Coast and East Coast "full" tour in the fall. : They may go across Canada and then down the West Coast like they did : last fall, but I haven't heard anything solid about it. Then I've heard : there is a small break and then an East Coast tour. I've also heard that : there may not be midwest dates again until next year. Those are the : rumors I've heard flying around, but nothing is true until you see it on : the FDC tour page or a post from Jude. Welll.. I don't know what to think of that. I'd be quite suprised if this were true. Especially considering the stop in Bowling Green (yes, contrary to popular belief, Ohio is considered Midwest) and the big holes in the tour schedule on either side of it, and the fact that they haven't played anything much since Jan/Feb in the area, I think we should expect to see a nice swing through the typical venues for Fall. Just speculation. :) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josh Woodward, CheEsy Fru. joshw@fruhead.com Web Site and Tape List: http://www.fruhead.com/joshw/ ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #552 ********************************************