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alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest  Monday, June 28 1999  Volume 03 : Number 533



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Ann Arbor CD Offer Closed!              [Josh Woodward <joshw@fruhead.com>]
  Re: MTV- an alternative                  [truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Personal Show Stats              [Fru-Monique <frumonique92@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Personal Show Stats              [Fru-Monique <frumonique92@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Thornhill on WBER???                 [truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Thornhill on WBER???                 [truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Thornhill on WBER???                             [cricket5@hotmail.com]
  RE: "Thornhill" release date    ["Vokes, Laurie" <Laurie.Vokes@Mchugh.com>]
  Re: Personal Show Stats                 [Josh Woodward <joshw@fruhead.com>]
  Re: Thornhill on WBER???        ["Lindsay Lion" <llion@bdolphin.upenn.edu>]
  Re: Thornhill on WBER???                                   [Jacey7@aol.com]
  Re: Coffee, tea, or me reference (re:huh?)             [gingee@my-deja.com]
  OT: An old one (was "Thornhill" release date)  ["A.J. LoCicero" <cicero@ww]
  Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)     [Chad Maloney <chadm@fruhead.com>]
  Re: Ann Arbor Offer  #3.            [Nate DeRose <nated@earth.goddard.edu>]
  Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)  [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin]
  Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)  [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin]
  Re: Ann Arbor Offer #3.                 [Swoop-Dot-Loop <koogle@clark.net>]
  Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)              [hero93@aol.com (Hero93)]
  Re: MTV- an alternative                                    [Jacey7@aol.com]
  Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)            [trace@frumail.org (Trace)]
  Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)  [Nate DeRose <nated@earth.goddard.ed]

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:08:08 -0400
From: Josh Woodward <joshw@fruhead.com>
Subject: Ann Arbor CD Offer Closed!

Ok, I found my five people for now. I'll most likely post another CD offer
soon when I get some time for that show or the Wednesday one. Carry on!

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Josh Woodward, CheEsy Fru.                            joshw@fruhead.com
Web Site and Tape List:                   http://www.fruhead.com/joshw/

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:21:23 -0400
From: truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MTV- an alternative

I might agree with you if i knew what 120 minutes was.  do they even have
it in the NJ area?  sorry if this is an incredibly ignorant question.  I
mentioned TRL in the beginning only because i had just gotten off the
alt.tv.x-files group where a whole bunch of people were spazing about
getting something on to TRL.  i'm cable-less.  forgive me.

~truztno1

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:20:25 GMT
From: Fru-Monique <frumonique92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Personal Show Stats

This cheese-induced Frühead said:
> Ah, back on the ol' statistics thread. Woohoo.  ;-)
> /me fires up the perl script to get stats on the
> 50ish shows he's been
> to where the setlists are known:
<snip a bunch of stats>

Can we say *obsessed*?  Hee.  ;)  Only you, Josh. 
Frunique
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:20:25 GMT
From: Fru-Monique <frumonique92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Personal Show Stats

This cheese-induced Frühead said:
> Ah, back on the ol' statistics thread. Woohoo.  ;-)
> /me fires up the perl script to get stats on the
> 50ish shows he's been
> to where the setlists are known:
<snip a bunch of stats>

Can we say *obsessed*?  Hee.  ;)  Only you, Josh. 
Frunique
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:08:37 -0400
From: truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Thornhill on WBER???

Mocksie wrote:

> About the Jersey Frustations...
>
> If you're in the Trenton area, I will be returning to my college radio station
> (WTSR 91.3 FM)  and I *always* make sure to play at LEAST one fruvous song (all
> I'm really allowed) in my 3 hour block... I'll let y'all know when you can hear
> Mocksie herself on the airwaves...
>
> -Mocks

*very* cool.  i hope my radio can pick it up though (i live in the New Brunswick
area).

~truztno1

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:09:50 -0400
From: truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Thornhill on WBER???

KatieWow wrote:

> ahem.  WXPN (godlike as it is) plays a great deal of früvous and my part of
> NJ is in their listening area.  northern NJ can also get WFUV, another
> früstation.
> ~~kate

do you know what the frequency (as in numbers) is?  because i've never heard of
the two stations at all.... : (

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:04:03 GMT
From: cricket5@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Thornhill on WBER???

In article <19990627235901.13156.qmail@ww182.netaddress.usa.net>,
  Angie <LladyYasmina@netscape.net> wrote:
> Hey there Frufans!!!
>
> I just heard from a friend of mine (his first concert was the 4/9 RIT
show,
> but has been badgered by me and his wife since last fall... hee hee)
anyway...
> I just heard that he was listening to WBER here in Roch recently and
heard
> what the DJ called a track from the new album by Moxy Fruvous!  He
couldn't
> remember which one it was, and I just tried to call the station and
got no
> answer.  I don't know how stations generally work, but would they
play a song
> over a MONTH before a new album is released??
>

Well, WXPN in Philly has had new Fru-music for about a week and a half
now. And like your friend, I have heard "and that was new music from
Moxy Fruvous," but not the song title - and when I called, they weren't
sure what they played either. Although rumor has it that while I was
down in Baltimore for the Fruvous show, it was featured on Micheala's
First Impressions show.

Mary
maryk@marykrause.com


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:12:56 GMT
From: "Vokes, Laurie" <Laurie.Vokes@Mchugh.com>
Subject: RE: "Thornhill" release date

ya could just order it from the US CD Now.........
(just a thought)

- -----Original Message-----
From: CheesemonkeyGem [mailto:darlene88@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 12:39 AM
To: ammf@fruvous.com
Subject: "Thornhill" release date


maria shared the lovely news:
>I was just looking on Früvous.com, and I noticed
>something new.  It says
>"Thornhill" will be released on Aug. 10th in the U.S.
>and Aug. 24th in Canada.  What's up with that?

oh for freaks sakes!! come on!!  thats not fair, the
americans get it before us! i for one wont be able to
cross the border to get it and it doesnt matter
anyway, it would just cost gas money plus exchange
plus taxes.
GRRRRRRRR. i was wondering if this was going to
happen.
i sit here and listen day after day to you guys
gushing about all the new songs i havent heard and now
i have to wait 9 more days to hear it!

- -jen the whiney cheesemonkey

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Date: 28 Jun 1999 17:32:43 GMT
From: Josh Woodward <joshw@fruhead.com>
Subject: Re: Personal Show Stats

Fru-Monique <frumonique92@yahoo.com> wrote:
:> Ah, back on the ol' statistics thread. Woohoo.  ;-)
:> /me fires up the perl script to get stats on the
:> 50ish shows he's been
:> to where the setlists are known:
: <snip a bunch of stats>

: Can we say *obsessed*?  Hee.  ;)  Only you, Josh. 

Hey, I get enough crap about my stat obsession from Jian, I don't need
it from you. *grins*

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Josh Woodward, CheEsy Fru.                            joshw@fruhead.com
Web Site and Tape List:                   http://www.fruhead.com/joshw/

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:51:51 -0500
From: "Lindsay Lion" <llion@bdolphin.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: Thornhill on WBER???

WXPN - 88.5 Philadelphia area
WFUV 9.07 NYC area

truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3777AC5E.62A1EB4C@hotmail.com...
>
>
> KatieWow wrote:
>
> > ahem.  WXPN (godlike as it is) plays a great deal of früvous and my part
of
> > NJ is in their listening area.  northern NJ can also get WFUV, another
> > früstation.
> > ~~kate
>
> do you know what the frequency (as in numbers) is?  because i've never
heard of
> the two stations at all.... : (
>

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:34:49 GMT
From: Jacey7@aol.com
Subject: Re: Thornhill on WBER???

Oh, I love it when the world gets a little smaller:

The anonymous Mocksie, who I now wonder if I know, wrote:

>> About the Jersey Frustations... If you're in the Trenton area, I
will be returning to my college radio station (WTSR 91.3 FM)  and I
*always* make sure to play at LEAST one fruvous song (all I'm really
allowed) in my 3 hour block... I'll let y'all know when you can hear
Mocksie herself on the airwaves...<<

Wow-- I myself am a (fairly) recent grad of this illustrious institute
of higher learning, and spent many a monday night my freshman year
holed up in the basement of Kendall Hall for the good of the station.
OK, so I read the news on the highly cheesy "Stuck in the 80s," but I
made my mark ;-) Let me know when you are on, and I'll try and draft
some of my TSC fruconverts to give you a call and request them!!

~jen (who would never have survived getting up early for student
teaching if it weren't for the ultra-cool morning show "Adriene" and
crew put on the fall of '97)
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:04:56 GMT
From: gingee@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Coffee, tea, or me reference (re:huh?)

In article <a6e8daf2.24a7812d@aol.com>,
  Heybun@aol.com wrote:
> I'm having a foggy vision of a movie version "starring" Karen
Valentine as
> the "new girl on the crew", but no one in this ng is probably old
enough to
> remember her either.
>
> Bobbi
>
Hi, Bobbi!

I admit I am old enough to remember Karen Valentine, so you are not
alone. :-) Can't say I recall that movie, but the TV show "Room 222"
comes to mind although I don't really remember if she was actually in
that - but I can very clearly remember what she looked like "way back
then".

Cheers!
gingee


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:09:53 GMT
From: "A.J. LoCicero" <cicero@wwnet.com>
Subject: OT: An old one (was "Thornhill" release date)

Neil Bardhan wrote:

> Hmm.. possible conversation:
> Border guard -- And what's your purpose in the US, ma'am/sir?
> Früfan -- To purchase a CD.
> BG -- I beg your pardon?
> F -- Here! *hands info about release dates to BG*
> BG -- Yes, I see..
> F -- So I'll just run into a record store, buy it, pop back over the
> border. That's legal right?
> BG -- Indeed, it is. Can I catch a ride? :)

For some reason, this reminded me of this old one:

U.S. Border Guard to a Canadian/other visitor:

BG: Do you have anything to declare?
Tourist: Nothing.
BG: No Alcohol?
Tourist: Nope.
BG: Any firearms in the vehicle today?
Tourist: No.
BG: (handing over his pistol) Oh well here, you better take mine.  I've got a spare.  

A.J.

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:32:57 -0500
From: Chad Maloney <chadm@fruhead.com>
Subject: Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)

Amber Brown wrote:
> I undertook this task because after attending 4 shows and reading
> countless reviews, I realized that Fruvous almost never plays my favorite
> songs. Can my taste really be that different from the band themselves, or
> the other fans? Out of that last list Stuck in the 90's, No No Raja, Lazy
> Boy, Lazlo's Career, Jenny Washington, Incredible Medicine Show, Fell in
> Love, and The Ballad of Cedrick Fruvous are all in my top 14. With Get in
> the Car (14), King of Spain (20), Your New Boyfriend (6), BJ Don't Cry
> (8), When She Talks (15), and I Will Hold On (16) rounding out my list.

Ah, but each person is gonna have a completely different list than
you! That's the hard part. As for the songs you mentioned, some
of them have been played a lot, but not recently. Medicine Show
was a staple of the 1997 spring->fall tour. Lazy Boy was in almost
all of the Fall 1997 Your New Boyfriend tour, as was Fell in Love
and a slowed down Your New Boyfriend. Stuck in the 90's comes out
every so often, usually as a good surprise or when they play more
than one gig in a city. Jenny Washington has never been performed as
far as I know. Raja appeared a lot in the Your New Boyfriend tour
as well, usually preceded with a Jian 10 minute talk about really
whatever he feels like (Some Kind of Wonderful, the Riverfront Times
story about the police setting up some kid, etc). Lazlo pops up
rarely, so they can play it. It was in the set lists in early 1997.
Cedric Fruvous has been performed once as far as I know and that
was that Frucon I where the guys performed some rarities some of
which have graced live sets afterwards (Love Set Fire, Poor Napoleon)
and some of which were just dusted off once (Gord's Gold, Cedric Fruvous,
Photosynthesis). 

Josh Woodward did tour stats for the Your New Boyfriend tour which
was the tour that was recorded for Live Noise. Check out his stats
and compare to yours and you'll see how Fruvous set contents change
over time not just from show to show but from tour to tour. This
accomodates both style of fans. The one city Fruvous fan who goes
to each and every show in their city and cheers and recommends the
band to their friends and neighbors loves the complete mixup from
tour to tour. The follow-the-band-to-where-ever-the-hell-they-go
fans appreciate the mixups between each night of the same tour.
They know they are gonna hear some of the same songs, but
they also know there are gonna be 5 or 6 treats that will make
the travelling worth it.

Josh's Tour Stats are at for the Your New Boyfriend tour:
http://www.dc-adnet.com/joshw/ynb/

> So my solution: More Variety. I know they have to play King of Spain and
> Johnny Saucep'n every time, but Michigan Militia? Horseshoes? surely fans
> don't _require_ these every concert.

I dunno. I guess this is personal preference. But I think what they
do now is great. Coming up with completely different set lists
for each show in a tour is a lot to ask. Dusting off a couple oldies
is a good thing for a one-on-one request. It works eventually (what,
we've heard Bittersweet twice now? Well, I've heard Bittersweet twice
now *grin*). 

			- Chad

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:40:31 -0400
From: Nate DeRose <nated@earth.goddard.edu>
Subject: Re: Ann Arbor Offer  #3.

The offer is now closed.....

Congrats to those who made it... and to those who didn't, better luck
next time!

:)

cheers,
nate


Nate DeRose wrote:
> 
> Okay okay.. I guess I may as well jump on the bandwagon as well!
> :)
> 
> So, for the first FIVE people who email me, and can send two blank CDs
> and return postage, you can have a copy of either night from Ann Arbor.
> (Not both... one or the other)
> 
> The first night is recorded 4th row by the right pole, just like Josh's,
> but the source on this is Earthworks SR-77 ->DAP1.
> 
> Second night is the same source, but is 6th row center.
> 
> And please folks, if you're getting one of the nights from Josh or Dan
> already, let someone else jump in on this offer.
> 
> I will post when the offer is full.
> 
> Cheers,
> nate

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Date: 28 Jun 1999 19:24:14 GMT
From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)
Subject: Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)

Dave (apparently a west-coast Dave, so maybe that's what we'll call him to
differentiate him from several other mostly-lurking Daves) said many things,
among them:

>Interestingly enough, not one of the "not played in the last 23 concerts"
>songs
>are really my top faves, so I can't speak for the others but you and I are
>slighty off (we knew that anyway, didn't we? :))  Though I'd be happy to hear
>any of those songs live, especially Fell in Love.

Josh Woodward did a more comprehensive list of EVERYTHIING they've played at
EVERY show lately, but still, yes, absolutely, there are things that are played
WAY too rarely.

(Jealous jealous oh so jealous of those of you who've heard Bittersweet live. 
And Bed and Breakfast?  C'mon, this is one AMAZING song that never makes the
setlist.)

>But - and here's where we bond even though our tastes differ - the songs I
>really want to hear are still way low on the list.

That seems to be the common thread here ... 

>Played only once: Gulf War Song!!  ONCE???!!  This is such a majorly AMAZING
>piece of writing, it's just a crime it doesn't get performed more often.

Now that's funny, because after having been more-or-less retired for awhile (I
know Marie-Claude was dying to hear it for ages) it is played fairly frequently
now, in "appropriate" context I guess (a somewhat political event, or a
somewhat politically apropos current situation.  But always as an encore --
which I suspect is why it doesn't make it onto some posted setlists and thus
not into the "stats".) 

>It's one of the songs I always play for people who've never heard them - and
>maybe this just says a lot about who my friends are more than anything else -
>it the song that most consistantly makes the strongest impression.

ditto.  so it's not just your friends.

>**Aside: Say you meet someone's who's never heard of the lads (perish the
>thought!) but they're intrigued.  But not so intrigued that you know you'll
>lose them after, say, three songs... what three do you play 'em, and in which
>order?  

depends on who the peeps are.  Offhand, i'd say Michy, IWHO, and GWS, but the
first two are dependent on what I know of those people's taste.

Horseshoes doesn't work.  *sigh*

>Also played only twice: Video Bargainville.  Everytime that megaphone comes
>out, I cross my fingers and hope.  But - sigh - it turns out to be Michigan
>Militia instead.

Funny, because right *before* I became a Fruhead apparently there was some
kibbitzing about people getting tired of Video, and the band apparently took
note.  Now it seems the worm has turned -- I think  
I've only heard it 3 or maybe 4x, and I certainly could live with it on a much
more regular basis.

>Darlington Darling - damn, why couldn't I fly across the country for the
>Vault
>show :)

This is another one I've been "gifted" with on a fairly regular basis -- enough
to keep me happy anyway.  Which I think indicates there actually *is* a good
amount of variety in the setlists -- you're not hearing the same stuff at shows
you go to that I hear at the ones I go to!  (Not to rub it in or anything --
it's more-or-less random I think with the non-obligatory songs :)  )

>Even more importantly...
>
>I have no problem with the lads - or any band - doing their versions of other
>songs.  It can be really cool.  (In the Bob Dylan/Paul Simon tour, Dylan does
>a
>cover of Not Fade Away that just resonates).
>
>But must this wonderful band close their show with their Love Potion #9
>medly? 
>I'm sort of tired of Psycho Killer, too, but not as much as the medly.  And
>neither of them would be that bad if they didn't CLOSE with them!  Yes, they
>come back and do "encores" of their stuff, but it's... well... I don't even
>know the word.  Inelegant.  Does that sound right?

My take on the medleys is -- yes, I'm tired of LP9, I wish they'd do some of
the other medleys more frequently.  I'm not sure how the medleys evolved -- a
signature moment from their busking/cover band roots?  In any case,  I think
they've perhaps grown beyond them as a finale -- showing they can kick ass with
other people's tunes, and be inventive to boot, is certainly fun, but it might
not belong at the end of the show any more, but more as a sort-of-improv moment
(like they've done with Who stuff, and Bowie stuff, and Van Morrison stuff, and
zillions--of-other-peoples'-stuff).  

I must say, it was refreshing NOT to have an end-of-show medley during the
early part of this spring's tour -- I was thinking maybe they were working on a
new one, or ditching the idea in favor of something else.  But now the medleys
are back -- and although I don't mind them, I do wish there was more variety. 
I don't even think LP9 is the strongest of the 4 medleys.

As for "inelegance" -- I'm wondering if maybe this is one of the reasons some
"mainstream" people have trouble taking them seriously as tunesmiths and
artists -- the last impression of the show is something whimsically playful,
derived from other people's work, instead of something that shows THEIR writing
and instrumentation and singing to best advantage.  Not that there's anything
wrong with whimsical and playful (like any of you who know me could think I'd
ever say so) but it may not be appropriate, as Dave says, as the last element
of the show. 

Wow, I hope that didn't sound really harsh.  I do adore when Fruvous plays
covers -- and I know they can cover almost ANYTHING.  I guess I'm just
concerned that sometimes an assortment of cover-snippets at the end of a show
overshadows their own work.

Boy am I babbling today.  *sigh*

- -- Lori
**********************
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Date: 28 Jun 1999 19:44:33 GMT
From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)
Subject: Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)

the name-sensitive Amber Brown said:

>I guess all generational names have that possibility,
>>i.e. Tami, Brandi.

And then Trace, a/k/a Traci-with-an-i, said:

>I can empathize.  Really I can.  The only famous Traci with an 'i' was
>a certain, former, under-age porno star.  Murray once mentioned that
>to me as he signed my copy of Wood.  "Oh, like Traci Lords?"  "Um, not
>really Mur..."   We'd been chatting for all of 30 seconds when the
>conversational topic suddenly turned to pornography.  It *wasn't* my
>fault :)  Oh well, at least my copy of Wood says "Traci, a sexy name.
>Murray Foster"  :)

eek.  well at least *something* good came out of it.

Any woman's name ending with an i is bad news.  Trust me.  I know this. 
Remember this when you go to name your female children.

- -- Lori with an i (and just *think* of my *completely undeserved* reputation
around here.  Then think of Traci's -- my partner in reputation.  Then think of
- -- oh, say, Lizzie's or Heather's or Fiona's.  See what I mean?  :)  )

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:02:54 GMT
From: Swoop-Dot-Loop <koogle@clark.net>
Subject: Re: Ann Arbor Offer #3.

In article <3777A2A8.D807A5E4@earth.goddard.edu>,
  Nate DeRose <nated@earth.goddard.edu> wrote:
> Okay okay.. I guess I may as well jump on the bandwagon as well!
> :)

Just wanted to take this opportunity to thank Josh, Dan and Nate for
making these offers.

You guys rock.

- --Amanda


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Date: 28 Jun 1999 20:43:56 GMT
From: hero93@aol.com (Hero93)
Subject: Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)

Lori wrote:

[All of Lori's amazingly terrific points cut for brevity]


I am totaly agreement with everything you just said.

Wow.  :)



- -West Coast Dave

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:35:40 GMT
From: Jacey7@aol.com
Subject: Re: MTV- an alternative

>>I might agree with you if i knew what 120 minutes was.<<

120 Minutes is a show on MTV that airs from Midnight to 2am on Sunday
nights (well, I guess Monday morning, technically). To me, at least, it
is the most musically interesting, least commercialized thing on MTV.

~jen (who also wanted to say how impressed she is by the generous boys
who live on this newsgroup--offering CDs of amazing shows and such to
the underpriveldged masses--but didn't want to "me too" Amanda's post)
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:42:09 GMT
From: trace@frumail.org (Trace)
Subject: Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)

On 28 Jun 1999 19:44:33 GMT, Lori with an i theorized,

>Any woman's name ending with an i is bad news.  Trust me.  I know this. 
>Remember this when you go to name your female children.
>
>-- Lori with an i (and just *think* of my *completely undeserved* reputation
>around here.  Then think of Traci's -- my partner in reputation.  Then think of
>-- oh, say, Lizzie's or Heather's or Fiona's.  See what I mean?  :)  )

I feel like I should rebut this post but am unsure how to do so....
Plausible deniability, yeah, that'll work!  I have no bad reputation,
and I don't know what you're talking about Lori.  This sounds like a
smear campaign to me.  Hmph!

And *I* post under Trace, not Traci, so these charges are obviously
groundless :-P

- --
Trace
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:53:20 -0400
From: Nate DeRose <nated@earth.goddard.edu>
Subject: Re: MF's Live Play Statistics (long)

Lori Martin wrote:
> >But must this wonderful band close their show with their Love Potion #9
> >medly?
> >I'm sort of tired of Psycho Killer, too, but not as much as the medly.  And
> >neither of them would be that bad if they didn't CLOSE with them!  Yes, they
> >come back and do "encores" of their stuff, but it's... well... I don't even
> >know the word.  Inelegant.  Does that sound right?
> 
> My take on the medleys is -- yes, I'm tired of LP9, I wish they'd do some of
> the other medleys more frequently.  I'm not sure how the medleys evolved -- a
> signature moment from their busking/cover band roots?  In any case,  I think
> they've perhaps grown beyond them as a finale -- showing they can kick ass with
> other people's tunes, and be inventive to boot, is certainly fun, but it might
> not belong at the end of the show any more, but more as a sort-of-improv moment
> (like they've done with Who stuff, and Bowie stuff, and Van Morrison stuff, and
> zillions--of-other-peoples'-stuff).

Wow... see, I totally disagree.
I mean.... hearing the Love Potion medley... or psycho killer as the
last song of the set .... is easily as important to me as hearing GWS or
the Drinking Song as the closer.
I mean.... they just have such WONDERFUL energy, ya know?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that hearing one of those medleys
right near the end of a show is what really makes me leave with that
mental-hopping-up-and-down motion.
:)

Call me crazy, but it just wouldn't be the same for me without one of
those cover medleys at the end.

(And incidentally, I think the LP#9 is my favorite of those...)

But hey, to each his own.
It's the variety that makes it interesting.

Cheers,
nate

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