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alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest  Sunday, June 13 1999  Volume 03 : Number 487



                               Today's Subjects:
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  OT: Guster and Great Big Sea in ANOTHER place  [stereopuff@aol.com (Mike W]
  1 more question                          [truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>]
  Re: boulder show review / K@ <hugs>                    [SkyStar117@aol.com]
  Re: boulder show review                   [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)]
  Re: Pisco Bandito                         [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)]
  Re: Ocean City Concert and Thornhill questions  [trace@frumail.org (Trace)]
  Re: Pisco Bandito                               [trace@frumail.org (Trace)]
  Re: Pisco Bandito                           [skystar117@aol.comStar (Debb)]
  great idea?                         [Mindy J Munson <shazalinrea@juno.com>]
  Re: Pisco Bandito                  [tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers)]
  Re: boulder show review / K@ <hugs>       [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)]
  Re: boulder show review / K@ <hugs>  [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.que]
  re:boulder show review       [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>]
  Re: Ocean City Concert and Thornhill questions  ["KatieWow" <kleahy@loyola]
  Re: great idea?                            ["Zainab" <MAYALIN@prodigy.net>]
  Re: great idea?                             [skystar117@aol.comStar (Debb)]
  Calling down the Thunder (this is LONG)  [Angie Armstrong <LladyYasmina@ne]
  Re: great idea?                     [Mindy J Munson <shazalinrea@juno.com>]
  boulder show review - the non-violent approach        [petit_chou@juno.com]
  Re: great idea?                          [truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Ocean City Concert and Thornhill questions  [truztno1 <tigger246@hotma]
  Re: great idea?                            ["Zainab" <MAYALIN@prodigy.net>]
  Re: great idea?                     [Mindy J Munson <shazalinrea@juno.com>]
  re: hockey, clarenden, and bdays :)  [CheesemonkeyGem <darlene88@yahoo.com]

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Date: 13 Jun 1999 14:47:08 GMT
From: stereopuff@aol.com (Mike Wood)
Subject: OT: Guster and Great Big Sea in ANOTHER place

for anyone coming to Toronto for the Fruz' July-11th show, the annual Mix 99.9
Stardust picnic is also being held that weekend on both the 10th & 11th,
including the two abovementioned swingers plus headliners Blue Rodeo and
several others... (hopefully with neither of them cutting into Fru-time, which
i believe is sometime in mid-afternoon sunday... ). 
(incidentally, Frank Black is also playing at the Horseshoe both of those
nights, adding even *more* musical-bang for that weekend!) 

just a tie and a suit... 

~MikeWood 
- ---------- 
"I am the cutest invincible shoe rider ever!" 

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 10:33:51 -0400
From: truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>
Subject: 1 more question

sorry, but one more question- the OC show IS an all ages show, right?

~truztno1
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:40:31 GMT
From: SkyStar117@aol.com
Subject: Re: boulder show review / K@ <hugs>

In a message dated 6/13/99 10:03:39 AM EDT, bbwminors@AOL.COM writes:

<< Don't tell me the "hamster wheel" was actually the Gigantbox30 toilet paper
 holder????????????
 LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! >>

K@! <hugs>  I'm so happy you finally got it signed;) 
Now it's complete....heirloom quality bathroom fixtures....that's so cool in 
a really backwards, kinda perverted way. Very amusing;)
And a good story for the grandkids.
love debs

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:39:04 -0600
From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)
Subject: Re: boulder show review

In article <19990613093320.26246.00001386@ng-fd1.aol.com>, 
bbwminors@aol.com says...
> Don't tell me the "hamster wheel" was actually the Gigantbox30 toilet paper
> holder????????????
> 
> LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! 

Shhhhh....we wouldn't want poor Patrick's head to explode trying to grasp 
the explanation around that one. :)

k@

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:47:16 -0600
From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)
Subject: Re: Pisco Bandito

In article <7k0g4n$7en$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>, kleahy@loyola.edu says...
> am i the only one who doesn't think "pisco" is just a ha-ha song?  sure,
> it's funny - but isn't it more about tourist exploitation and such things?
> or am i reading far too much into it?
> ~~kate, who is mildly worried that a certain someone is cracking up at the
> fact that she thinks pisco is just a metaphor for something else :)

Worry not, Katie. I think previous discussion here (or somewhere; if I 
were inclined to search DejaNews I might find some quotes) has shown that 
you're right.

k@
pretty sure that all those people from Mexico didn't move to Colorado 
'cause they'd heard such glowing reviews of our public transportation 
system, either

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:28:32 GMT
From: trace@frumail.org (Trace)
Subject: Re: Ocean City Concert and Thornhill questions

On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:47:38 -0400, "KatieWow" <kleahy@loyola.edu>
wrote:

>>3. anyone who's been down to the music pier, is it like stadium seating,
>>or just rows of chairs set up, one behind another, meaning it's damn
>>important to get good tickets early?
>>4.  is it general seating, meaning you have to get down there as early a
>>u can, or the tickets tell u exactly where u sit?
>
>seating is general.  you won't get a seat number.  the seating in the music
>pier (i was there today, actually) resembles bleachers.

Hey Katie, are you sure about the general seating?  Have they changed
the music pier since last year?  I attended the Fruvous/Buckwheat
Zydeco show there last July, and it was definitely *not* general
seating.  I double checked my pictures from that show and just as I
remembered it, the hall was filled with rows of folding chairs and we
all had assigned seats.  I got up and danced along the side wall
though, so it wasn't too bad.   Unless they've changed things, I'm
going to base my actions upon last year's experience, and get my
ticket ASAP. 

- --
Trace
trace@frumail.org

AMM-F: You must be this insane to ride -----
- -Veronica J Gruneberg

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:06:54 GMT
From: trace@frumail.org (Trace)
Subject: Re: Pisco Bandito

On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 10:39:31 -0400, "KatieWow" <kleahy@loyola.edu>
wrote:

>am i the only one who doesn't think "pisco" is just a ha-ha song?  sure,
>it's funny - but isn't it more about tourist exploitation and such things?
>or am i reading far too much into it?
>~~kate, who is mildly worried that a certain someone is cracking up at the
>fact that she thinks pisco is just a metaphor for something else :)

Nope. I agree with you Katie.   As so often happens with humor, there
are deeper, underlying issues in the subtext.  Humor, whether it is in
the form of parody, sarcasm, or even slapstick, is often used to
discuss serious issues.  If you take the time to think about such
lyrics, and wonder what is really being said, you can find interesting
points of view in songs that may seem otherwise frivolous.  I admire
the ability to do that.  Sometimes people fail to consider anything
beyond the surface joke value and therefore miss the message in a
song.  In those cases, just who is going for the cheap laugh, the band
who wrote the song, or the listener?  And what's wrong with a cheap
laugh anyway?  Being funny isn't easy.  I'm a perfect example of that
:)

- --
Trace
trace@frumail.org

AMM-F: You must be this insane to ride -----
- -Veronica J Gruneberg

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Date: 13 Jun 1999 16:19:47 GMT
From: skystar117@aol.comStar (Debb)
Subject: Re: Pisco Bandito

In a message dated 6/13/99 11:03:30 AM EDT, kleahy@loyola.edu writes:

<< am i the only one who doesn't think "pisco" is just a ha-ha song?  sure,
 it's funny - but isn't it more about tourist exploitation and such things?
 or am i reading far too much into it?
 ~~kate, who is mildly worried that a certain someone is cracking up at the
 fact that she thinks pisco is just a metaphor for something else :) >>


Katie: I agree, but y'all can see for yourself:

*In Haliburton near the Lake of Bays
lives a fish from a faraways
He hates the weather but still he stays
He hates the work but he says it pays
He robs the people as they swim and wade
His little piece of the tourist trade
This little fella's really got it made
From May to mid-July
He's Pisco Bandito the bandit fish
If he wants your money, he gets his wish
then he swims away with a mighty swish
Pisco the bandit fish
He left his family down in Mexico       
to fly the waters of Ontario    
He didn't want to but he had to go     
He sends them money every month or so   
Swimming beneath the summer sun        
or renting videos of Midnight Run      
A bandit's life is lots of fun
What is Pisco's favourite thing to rob?
They say he likes apple strudel
What does he do when not on the job?
on the guitar noodle
You may think that to steal is wrong
But he's no worse than Jean Valjean
Except he drinks and carries on
And smashes bottles on the neighbor's lawn
The oceans and the seven seas                     
Are filled with many different tales like these    
Decent folk like you or me                  
On the wrong side of the law*
"Let the moonlight take the lid off your dreams"-BF5   "Go ahead you can laugh
all you want~I got my philosophy"-BF5

"If you're willing to take a leap of faith, get off your butt..who knows what's
out there waiting for you" -Endless Summer

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:45:09 GMT
From: Mindy J Munson <shazalinrea@juno.com>
Subject: great idea?

ok.  To make the people of happiness (you guys) happy once more, I wanted
to put an idea to you.  This all came about when I was wondering if Early
Morning Rain would be on the new album
Wouldn't it rock is fruvous made a CD of just cover?  Kinda like that
show in NoHo.  I was thinking that it could be called something like
"Under the Covers"
thoughts?  ideas?

fruchild,
*canoodle!*

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 10:42:30 -0600
From: tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers)
Subject: Re: Pisco Bandito

In article <3763d42f.84778062@news.p3.net>, trace@frumail.org (Trace) 
says...

> Being funny isn't easy.  

  At the risk of sounding completely egomaniacal.....you're
absolutely right. =)

- -- 
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IRCnick: Aqualung       Made glorious SimEarth by this Sun of Zork."
Denver, CO                            --from _Richard v3.0_
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 10:45:22 -0600
From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)
Subject: Re: boulder show review / K@ <hugs>

In article <872eca8a.24952932@aol.com>, SkyStar117@aol.com says...
 
> K@! <hugs>  I'm so happy you finally got it signed;) 
> Now it's complete....heirloom quality bathroom fixtures....that's so cool in 
> a really backwards, kinda perverted way. Very amusing;)
> And a good story for the grandkids.

Hee, thanks! :) I *promise* I'll have the whole Gigantbox saga up on my 
web page shortly, as soon as I get the pictures developed.

Tom: You know what this is, don't you?
Mike: Uh, it's a bum-wad dispenser.
Tom: With her NAME on it! From Toronto!
(K@ patiently waits for the autograph and wants to go hide)

k@
*eep*

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Date: 13 Jun 1999 17:45:02 GMT
From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>
Subject: Re: boulder show review / K@ <hugs>

Oh, thank *god* I was at home when I read that, instead of at the office!
:)

Geez, Kat, and you thought the picture with Jian was bad! :)  <grin>

:) Veronica (wishing I'd been around with a *video* camera for that one!)

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       it only encourages them."            |   Dept. of Biology
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Date: 13 Jun 1999 17:41:43 GMT
From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>
Subject: re:boulder show review

<snip>
: when somebody brings Kraft Macaroni and Cheese or a hamster wheel to a
</snip again>

Kraft Dinner, people!!! It's Kraft Dinner!!! KD being the acceptable short
form, but always Kraft Dinner!! :)

<grin>
:) Veronica

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       it only encourages them."            |   Dept. of Biology
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:38:12 -0400
From: "KatieWow" <kleahy@loyola.edu>
Subject: Re: Ocean City Concert and Thornhill questions

really?  i wasn't at the show last year, but i certainly thought that the
other times i had been there seats had been first-come, first-served.
maybe i'm wrong.  someone had posted a phone number at one point, i thought.
ah well.  that means i'll be down in OC next friday to procure my tickets
:).
~~kate

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katiewow@frumail.org
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we're starting to make a little bit of money.  It's a
disaster."
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- --The guys, West Coast Live
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:13:55 -0500
From: "Zainab" <MAYALIN@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: great idea?

Hiya Mindy!

I must confess that I've had a secret fantasy
of seeing Früvous perform Bowie's "Lady
Stardust."  In drag.  But having that on CD
just wouldn't be enough, because this is a
largely visual fantasy...

Zainab
oh well...

>Wouldn't it rock is fruvous made a CD of just cover?  Kinda like that
>show in NoHo.  I was thinking that it could be called something like
>"Under the Covers"
>thoughts?  ideas?
>
>fruchild,
>*canoodle!*

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Date: 13 Jun 1999 18:59:49 GMT
From: skystar117@aol.comStar (Debb)
Subject: Re: great idea?

In a message dated 6/13/99 2:33:04 PM EDT, MAYALIN@prodigy.net writes:

<< I must confess that I've had a secret fantasy
 of seeing Früvous perform Bowie's "Lady
 Stardust."  In drag.  But having that on CD
 just wouldn't be enough, because this is a
 largely visual fantasy...
 Zainab
oh well... >>


.....crossing over into the magical land of TMI???
just posing a question, not trying to kill the dream;)...just picturing jian
and mike in halter tops and falsies....erm, yeah.
- -debs



"Let the moonlight take the lid off your dreams"-BF5   "Go ahead you can laugh
all you want~I got my philosophy"-BF5

"If you're willing to take a leap of faith, get off your butt..who knows what's
out there waiting for you" -Endless Summer

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:40:35 GMT
From: Angie Armstrong <LladyYasmina@netscape.net>
Subject: Calling down the Thunder (this is LONG)

Greetings Fellow Früvous Aficionados!

Believe it or not, I'm actually jumping to Msr. Patrick L. Kellogg's defense
here (more or less).

I find it interesting that a few weeks ago someone (I'm inclined to think it
was either Chad or chad) commented about there never being a review that said
anything like "the concert sucked, they were all off and I'm never going
again" (well, more or less... I wasn't gonna try and fish for it, I don't
remember when it was made).  Well, here we have our first critical review that
didn't rave about how great the show was... and many a knee jerk reaction was
to take arms and attack.  Granted, more than a few of Patrick's comments were
less than tactful, but he more or less did apologize.

Some of you may remember my first appearance on the ng resulted in an
immediate foot in my mouth, that took me a bit to recover.  Every other person
gets off to a bad start in the ng, but you were patient with me and I would
hope you would extend your patience and guidance to Patrick as well (forgive
me if I sounded condescending, Patrick... twas not my intent).

Patrick, my friend... a few comments for you:  
1) I would hope that despite some of the more "passionate" responses to your
posts you would still consider being a part of our ammf community, and perhaps
reserving some of the sarcasm until you aren't the complete stranger that
folks have a difficult time in interpreting (ie, there are times myself or
Lori or Chad or chad or someone are sarcastic as hell, but because we all are
familiar with each other we don't get flamed immediately).  And for folks of
the newsgroup... I would hope that you would consider a second chance for our
new poster (and if he doesn't learn to play well with others after a month
then we can form and angry mob and run him out of town ;^) <-- joke  )

2)  Not to respond to all of your points because they've been trampled to
death already... I did want to comment on your general feeling of Fruvous'
popularity and the crowd numbers they draw (and I guess, the quality of fans
they draw).  
     a)If you ask every Früvous Fan why they like the band, they will no doubt
give a wide variety of answers.  For me personally, it's music that _isn't_
ear candy.  I can't listen to Früvous and study or work or anything because
many of the lyrics are so compelling to me that I get distracted and find
myself singing along, or re-listening to hear new meanings.  Granted, not
every Früvous song has intellectual significance (the meaning of life found in
Johnny Saucep'n?  Saints Preserve Us!!!).  But try sitting alone some night
with the lights low or candles burning and set "Wood" on repeat.  Listen to
the words, listen to the harmonies, listen for the integral parts that make up
the songs... there is so much to Früvous Songs both musically and literally.
     b)I don't know how long you've subscribed to ammf, but recently there was
quite a discussion about possible directions for the band and whether or not
we as fans (not that our decisions have any permanent effect on band
decisions) want the world-wide MTV popularity for the band.  One the general
feelings I got from the discussion [FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS ALL MY UNSOLICITED
OPINION] is that if the band wanted that type of popularity, they could very
well do it.  Between their management and their ability... they could become
big, I think.  They've chosen to perform the way they do and market themselves
the way they do.  They enjoy the closeness they have with their fan following.
 They appreciate the fact that people drive anywhere from 15 min to 8+ hours
to see them in concert... and because of that they make every effort to make
each show unique and different and special.  Someone made a comment about
going to 2 BNL shows and they were exactly the same, right down to the between
song banter.  Besides being incredibly talented performers, I believe they
have incredible business savvy... and in the end Moxy Früvous is a business
venture.  I believe that what they have is something that may be appreciated
by smaller numbers but will be appreciated longer and have more of a
long-lasting effect than a group who reaches millions but are forgotten after
their second album and get their songs sold on K-tel priceless gems
collections in K-mart.
     c) MF is seen in general as a "fun-loving" band, yes... sometimes they
play King of Spain (KoS)into the ground, and the guys themselves get tired of
it... but you know, I went to a concert where they _didn't_ play KoS... and
you could feel it's absence ["like a room in my house had just been
rearranged"- Sting, Rock Steady].  Bands get stuck with signature songs... for
many radio stations it's the only song that gets played.  The fans know that
there is more to MF than KoS... Some of their greatest songs (well, my
personal faves) they can't really play in concert or only do every once and
awhile.  Recently they did as a special request "Bittersweet,"  and the crowd
stood in silent awe.  It was, obviously, a slightly different arrangement to
be done live... but I think it would lose it's magic if it were added as a
regular to the playlist.  It's hard to stand through an entire 1.5 hour
concert of mellow and introspective music, that's seated coffee house fare. 
To keep the energy up, you have to have a few bouncy or loud or kickin' songs
going.  The band gives us the kickin' songs, we in turn laugh and dance and
scream and have a ball, and the band feeds on our fun-lovin' energy and plays
more and jokes and has a blast, and we get more into it and I'm sure you see
the pattern?  I can't count the number of times someone from the band has
commented to me after the show about seeing me in the front row (or near the
front) dancing and singing along to almost every song and have a rip-roarin'
good time, and thanking me for it!  If they see we as fans are having fun,
then they feel like they're doing something right :^)

I'm sorry this ended up so long, I haven't had much opportunity to post
recently because I've been running around, but there were some points I just
felt I had to make.  Thank you for reading this far, if indeed you have.

Again, Patrick... I hope you'll consider hanging around and at least spending
some time getting to know us and the band a little more.  Thank you for your
honest review of the concert, and I hope that those who've flamed him (either
subtly or blatantly) will take heart of our open-mindedness here at ammf and
give him another chance.

Angie, waxing philosophical... it would appear

PS:  as to the fans being geeky?  Yeah, I'm a geek.  But I'm a well-rounded
geek who plays a middle eastern dumbek; does Renaissance fencing, calligraphy
and illumination; 15th cen Italian costuming; musical theatre and melodrama;
lindy hop, tap and swing dancing; and computer applications training.  Moxy
Früvous' music is tapesty that I love to appreciate in every detail, every
stitch, and every thread... as well as the overall picture.  If you think
about it, in some person's eye you are just as much a geek because you're even
posting to a newsgroup/mailing list on the internet on a computer... its all a
matter of perspective (and yes... the geek comment _was_ rough... there's no
sin in refraining from sarcasm, my friend. :^)   )



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ripple anymore --Edwin McCain

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:25:16 GMT
From: Mindy J Munson <shazalinrea@juno.com>
Subject: Re: great idea?

>I must confess that I've had a secret fantasy
>of seeing Früvous perform Bowie's "Lady
>Stardust."  In drag.  But having that on CD
>just wouldn't be enough, because this is a
>largely visual fantasy...

tehe... I even considered that, but you are right.  Much more fun as a
visual.  Don't you think a frucover of "in the still of the night" would
kick?  That wonderous vocal bass line and such.  I thought "come
together" would rock too.

fruchild,
*canoodle!*

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:14:34 GMT
From: petit_chou@juno.com
Subject: boulder show review - the non-violent approach

Okay, so I didn't even read the original posts, or many of the posts
responding to it -- I began to read them sometime yesterday.  I'm
appalled.  I wish I had seen this from the beginning (bad Heather, no
biscuit).  Okay, so what I see is this:  A guy posts a seriously
unfavourable review of a band's show on a newsgroup dedicated to said
band.  Uproar ensues.  Patrick, you have oft repeated that what you
posted was opinion, and you would hope that people here would give you
freedom to have your own thoughts (or something to that effect).  As long
as I live, I will not begrudge you your right to have these opinions.  I
thank God [1] that you (and everyone else -- this isn't a personal thing)
can have opinions, and I'm also
falling-down-on-my-knees-every-day-grateful that everyone doesn't have
the same opinion as I do.  I would be bored shitless.  So, please let it
be writ that I am not after you for having an opinion.  In fact, I'm not
after you at all.  I am, I think, intrigued by this nasty little uprising
in the same way one is intrigued by those World's Worst Accidents shows. 
Your motives for posting your review to this newsgroup have been
questioned several times, and instead of answering, you reply that what
you posted is an OPINION.  No reasons, though.  I guess I'm still left
wondering why a person might say to themselves, "Self, I have an idea. 
We just saw a show we didn't much care for.  Let's go to the newsgroup
full of dedicated fans and post an unfavourable review.  Then, let's hang
around and defend ourselves."  At some point, you must have thought to
yourself that *someone* would interpret your post as trolling.  Perhaps
you underestimated the reaction.  I don't know what you expected to get
out of posting what you did (a resounding, "yeah!  Moxy Fruvous live
shows blow!  I'm never going to one again!  I hate their music too!"
seems a bit much to ask).  However.  I got a little nervous this morning,
checking my e-mail.  I came across this:

> Killfile me. It's not like I'm going to spam the place.

Uh-oh.  "Killfile"?  I guess I'm not all the geek I'm cracked up to be,
cause I don't know what the hell it is.  I sincerely hope that it does
not imply that someone has the ability and right to bar you from posting.
 That would be a tragic thing, and I say that with all seriousness.  I
don't think you should be barred from anywhere (that I know of at least).
 And as long as your name comes up (for whatever reason) you should have
the right to hear it and defend yourself to the best of your ability (or
not -- you may decide we're all just a bunch of geeks who have too much
time on their hands and resume your daily life).

Well, Patrick, I'm sorry you had a bad experience at a show (or the show
was unsatisfying, or whatever your complaint was).  Fruvous isn't for
everyone, and that's okay.

Heather Moore, who, it should be noted, would kill to see *ANY* Fruvous
show

[1] Not meant to be a religious endorsement in anyway.  Substitute your
favourite deity or comic book character here.
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:51:51 -0400
From: truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: great idea?

rather than covers, i think it'd be really cool if they performed
together with other bands/artists.... i don't know if 5+ would be a
crowd... just throwing a random idea out there... : )

~truztno1
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:39:04 -0400
From: truztno1 <tigger246@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ocean City Concert and Thornhill questions

yeah, the number's on FDC- www.fruvous.com/tour99.html, scroll to the bottom,
click on the Ocean City Music Pier link, and a number's listed (no, it's not the
tourism/chamber of commerce phone #, i think it runs to the box office or
whatever, i haven't tested it out yet....long distance... i plan to call from my
school and have them foot the bill .... ~sneaky me~ *insert diabolical laugh
here*).  yeah, i'm cool with the old people, as i'll be hanging with a group of
young people : ) - middle/high schoolers....

~truztno1
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:36:58 -0500
From: "Zainab" <MAYALIN@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: great idea?

>Don't you think a frucover of "in the still of the night" would
>kick?  That wonderous vocal bass line and such.  I thought "come
>together" would rock too.
>
>fruchild,
>*canoodle!*

I'm not sure I know what "In the Still of the Night" is, but it
makes me think of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight."  That would
be a nice Frücover.

Zainab

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:18:42 GMT
From: Mindy J Munson <shazalinrea@juno.com>
Subject: Re: great idea?

maybe each lad could sing with his fav artist.

fruchild,
*canoodle!*

>rather than covers, i think it'd be really cool if they performed
>together with other bands/artists.... i don't know if 5+ would be a
>crowd... just throwing a random idea out there... : )
>
>~truztno1

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:51:01 GMT
From: CheesemonkeyGem <darlene88@yahoo.com>
Subject: re: hockey, clarenden, and bdays :)

Veronica post-scripted:

>PS - Happy birthday Cheesemonkey. Welcome to the
>wonderful world of the overage. Not really all that
>much different, is it? Oh, and you might want
>to try a passport if you have one - even an expired
>one if you've got other id to back it up. I used to
>use mine all the time before I got my new one piece
>license. Hey, the photo on my old one was awful, and
>no one believed that it was really me (it was taken
>when I was 16)

tanx :) :) not much difference at all. i dont feel 19
and i definitely dont think i LOOK 19. and no passport
for me. last week i decided it was time to freak out
cause i had no valid ID and my brother was gonna take
me out on the day of my bday. so i ran around downtown
seeing about a health card, but when i told the
ministry teller lady it was for ID (my mom told me
this would be ok!) she wouldnt give it to me, she said
it was just to be used for medical purposes. she
suggsted i get a passport, which i later found out
would have cost a nice chunk of change which i did not
have, plus that wouldnt have been prosessed for
awhile. So after that i went to get an age of majority
card, which i discovered would take at least 6 weeks
to process. then i inquired about my beginners'
license, and the guy told me i'd get the license in 5
days, which would have been too late. SO then i did
something sneaky and dishonest, i went back down to
the health ministry to obtain a photo health card,
saying that i lost my other one, which i took out of
my bag before i left (why? in case they searched
me??). i was all scared that i would get served by the
same woman who turned me down for it just two days
earlier, and so when i got there i recognized her and
went to the teller farthest away from her, but LO!
guess which teller opens up first?? so im walking over
to her, thinking to myself "just turn around and
leave" but she didnt even recognize me, and i applied
for a new health card. i was told by several people
that i'd receive my new health card, my new VALID
piece of ID the same day, but no, that would be too
easy... she told me i'd get in in two to three weeks. 
AGUHKSHSDGUIAGHAHHIAH!!!!!!!!

but ya know what? I didnt even go out for my bday...
we went out for supper and me and my bro came home to
watch game 3 (go stars!) and by 2nd period we were too
tired and stuffed from dinner to move--so we made a
collective decision to pack it in and we both just
went to bed early.

HA!  and that was my bday. after all the freakin
trouble i went through to get a stupid card of
identification, me and my cheesecake-filled stomach
just curled up and went to bed!

- -jen the chocolate fudge brownie cheesecake with
caramel cheesemonkey

ps. i apologize to anybody who just read this who
really doenst give a shit about my
less-than-captivating story of me trying to get ID. 
===
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Hope? 
Nope.
- -Robert Zeal
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