From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #406 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, May 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 406 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT: Lafayette Square (No Fruvous Content) [dgodwin01@aol.com (DGodw] Re: Old cronies unite! (was Re: T-shirts) [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin] Re; The Polish Piano??? [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: Moxy Fruvous Newbie ;) [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] OT: Lafayette Square (No Fruvous Content) [dgodwin01@aol.com (DGodwin01] Re: air trombone [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: OT: Please cut it out? :) - a suggestion [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm] Re: Please cut it out? :) - a suggestion [Aryn - Marietta Eaton , piscopinto@aol.com says... > P.S. I fixed the spelling in the subject line- I'm pretty anal like that... Fixed? Nah, just replaced it with a different word. k@ ------------------------------ Date: 13 May 1999 02:56:34 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re; The Polish Piano??? That was you guys??!?!! Geez, I wondered why all of a sudden there were warnings posted on the TTC... "Beware of crazy folk". Right beside the "Don't put your large bags on the seats" and "Courtesy seating for elderly and disabled riders" :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: 13 May 1999 02:53:08 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Moxy Fruvous Newbie ;) Well, I won't tell my Sydney friends where you are... but the gravitational pull from Sydney... after all, it is the centre of the universe. Or so they would have me believe :) (But I think we all know that it's *really* Toronto ;) And if Fruvous ever plays in Australia... well, I'll be impressed, and, if the timing's right, I'll be there. Say, summer 2000 (after the Olympics, and winter in AUS. But since it's actually 10oC warmer there in the autumn than it is here in the late spring right now... I'm not worried about it) And you can whinge all you like. In case you hadn't noticed, this isn't exactly a "no whinging" zone!! :) So whinge away... :) Veronica (who knows exactly what whinge means, and greatly enjoyed joining her Australian housemate in teasing her Canadian housemate - who was clueless - about his propensity for whinging... drove him nuts!! !) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: 13 May 1999 03:02:44 GMT From: dgodwin01@aol.com (DGodwin01) Subject: OT: Lafayette Square (No Fruvous Content) Here's the Line-up of the concert series...(headliner in Bold) May 27 Riley • By Divine Right • 54 • 40 June 3 Project R&B Revue • THE FLUTIE BROTHERS BAND (Buffalo Bills Night - Featuring #7 Doug Flutie On Drums) June 10 The 7th Sons • Leon & The Forklifts RON HAWKINS and the RUSTY NAILS June 17 John Whelan • SHAWN MULLINS June 24 Go Dog Go • Guster • GREAT BIG SEA July 1 Wendell Rivera &The Latin Jazz All-Stars •LANCE DIAMOND July 8 TomStahl • PAUL REVERE AND THE RAIDERS (People Inc.'s Rat Race Night) July 15 Steam Donkeys • KELLY WILLIS July 22 Junction West • BILLY McEWEN & THE SOUL INVADERS July 29 53 Days • Irving Klaws • REVEREND HORTON HEAT Aug. 5 Tommy Z • THE MARSHALL TUCKER BAND Aug. 12 Bread Gone Wry • Bag. • FIGHTING GRAVITY (BuffaloTrax Night) Aug. 19 Alison Pipitone • Universal Honey • SPIRIT OF THE WEST Aug. 26 Straight Forward • SPYRO GYRA A lot of good Canadian Bands, but no Fruvous. I'd bet that Mike was talking about the Friendship Fest. Daniel "signature currently under construction... Come back soon" ------------------------------ Date: 13 May 1999 03:04:55 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: air trombone Well, Mr. Fancy-Pants Trombone with his trigger!! ;) Just kidding. The number of times I've been caught doing a 6-1-6 etc 8th note run over a few octaves I would have given my right arm to have a trigger. (Which would have made playing trombone *that* much more difficult) As for being in tune... yeah, most of the time you can pull it out of the case and go. Assuming that it's stayed in the case at a constant temperature and all of that junk. Which is a concern for me, 'cause I take mine on parade in -25oC weather. I've even had the slide actually freeze shut. But it really is all int he embouchure. My friend (same "alternate position" guy) refuses to tune because so much of it is done with your lips. But it makes you get ral chummy with your section-mates, 'cause you spend so much time listening to them. Trombones are all I can hear when I listen to a piece, 'cause I'm so used to doing it... Word of advice to budding trombonists: *never* play a valve trombone. Use as many triggers as you like, but *NO VAVLES*. Trombone Girls has spoken! :) :) Veronica (Head Trombone... no, really...) "Trombones, we scream and shout, we're what the bands are all about..." - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: 13 May 1999 03:29:33 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: OT: Please cut it out? :) - a suggestion Lynne asked: > ..and Lori, whats so bad about a little chaos? :) /me senses Vika and I BOTH feel a little defensive right about now. The issues of topicality and the unwieldiness of multiple posts making essentially the same statements came up, as they have several times in the past. I just added my .11, which was based partly on seeing how another, larger and more verbose ng, which also is prone to wild bursts of random conversation and off-topic silliness, deals with these same issues rather successfully. If that method is not the right approach for amm-f, fine, but I thought it was worth tossing out there as a possibility to be aware of -- not even as a "I definitely would prefer this," just as a discussion point. That's all. So now it's been discussed, and pros and cons debated, which really was the Whole Point -- part A. Part B, of course, would be: are we going to change anything, or are we happier with things in their freeform, chaotic but essentially workable state? The indications have been decidedly mixed. As stated earlier, I'm willing to participate if a lot of people see a need to change the way we've been doing things -- but that doesn't mean I think it's of utmost vital importance that any or all of *my* ideas be implemented. That's what they were -- ideas -- just like Vika's ideas. That is what we exchange around here, right? With or without changes in "administration" for lack of a better word, there are going to be some threads that drive some people nuts, some people who get overwhelmed by the volume of posting, the occasional poster who ignores netiquette, and people who just have to leave for whatever reason. That's part of the dynamics of a newsgroup community. We're just raising these issues as community members who are concerned with, and have noticed others' concern with, the continued health and happiness of that community. It is, after all, one of the nicest places I know of, and I'd like it to stay that nice even as it grows and changes. - -- Lori, *not* running for mayor, honest. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 03:55:18 GMT From: Aryn - Marietta Eaton Subject: Re: Please cut it out? :) - a suggestion - --- cookie wrote: a really cool post that I did not re post, so as not to clutter up band width. To risk a "me too" post. I've been completely amazed at the way this ng chugs along. I like the chatter, I like the concert reviews, and I like the sens of community. I for one would not read nearly as much as I do now if I had to limit my posts to strictly Fruvous only. I haven't seen the lads in 6 months, and whinging about that only goes so far. Aryn === ******************************************************************** IT WILL BE A DAY LONG REMEMBERED.... IN 10 DAYS THE FORCE WILL BE WITH US AGAIN AS IT HAS NEVER BEEN BEFORE!!!!! ******************************************************************** _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 03:39:46 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: post #2 - Fruvous Dream (long) Well, I didn't exactly dream senseless blather last night. In fact, my dream was rather disturbing once I started to recall and write it down. When I'm not too lazy to write them down immediately, I seem to recall a lot… maybe too much… The Dream: Fruvous was playing in Rochester @ some large and unfamiliar venue. It was summertime, but it was an indoor concert. After the concert I'm meandering around the Parking Lot, because apparently I walked to the venue. I'm waving at people as they drive off and I see Lori waiting in line to drive out. I lean over and talk to her and she asks where I'm staying. I laugh and told her "at home, I live here!" She asks what I'm doing after the show and I shrug and say, "wandering." She laughs and drives off. I see someone waving near this set of double doors by the rear of the building, and the person keeps changing between Phil and my friend Jeff. I walk over to him, he's carrying a camcorder with a huge light attached to it. There's a large moving van parked in front of the double-doors with a ramp down. As I walk up to Jeff/Phil I see Tobey and Cal loading things into the back of the van. They look at me but don't stop what they're doing, so I step out of the way. Jeff/Phil turns on the camcorder and starts recording them, and the light is intense, which is weird because there's still plenty of sunlight left. Dave and Murray come walking through the double-doors and stride quickly past us. Murray holds up his hand to block the light from Jeff/Phil's camcorder. A small crowd ambles towards us and in the middle of it is Jian… surrounded by people shoving autograph books and CD's in his face. He's literally fighting his way towards the bus. A Fru fan that I know (but in the dream I remember her "looking" like my friend Vanessa) is standing on the back bumper of the van off to the right, and she leans over to say something to Jian as he's rushing into the van. The door slams shut in her face, and she looks shocked and bewildered. Tobey comes back, opens the door and stows more stuff in (I'm standing on the other side from "Vanessa," they've all seen me but no one has said anything to me). I peer into the FruBus… it now looks like the interior of a private jet, with a center aisle and two rows of single seats. Jian sits in front of Mike on the left, and Dave sits in front of Murray on the right. I see Jian through a "bus driver" mirror, he's breathing and talking like he's got a head cold or something. He glances up at the mirror and sees me but doesn't seem to recognize me. Murray leans into the aisle to say something, then Dave leans in. They all look tired and a little lack-luster. As they're re-hashing the concert and not seeming too thrilled about it, I guess they must all have colds or something. Tobey closes the door and walks around to the front, followed by Cal. They drive off; leaving me, Jeff/Phil and "Vanessa" standing in front of the double doors watching the FruBus (It has now become one of those huge band-touring buses) speed off. Comments: I think this was mainly brought on by my recent discussion with a co-worker as to "what will you do when they make it big?" combined with the sudden re-appearance of Phil, and the admittedly irrational reaction to the feeling of feeling snubbed a little bit ago. However, it again raises my fears of that inevitable day, when the world embraces Fruvous. I know this is worst-case scenario… and from what I know of the guys now, that could never happen. But, what _will_ happen? What happens when they outgrow these wonderfully intimate venues and play Commercially Memorial Auditoriums and Arenas? Am I selfish to not want the share something so wonderful with the masses? Could Fruvous ever be "mainstream?" Willingly?? I know we've gone around and around with this again and again… but I figure there must have been a reason to remember this dream so vividly and actually be motivated to write it down before I was fully awake, right? - --Angie "Grown-ups never understand anything for themselves, and it is tiresome for children to be always and forever explaining things to them." - -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery, _The Little Prince_ ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #406 ********************************************