From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #391 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, May 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 391 Today's Subjects: ----------------- (no subject) [Blushooz@aol.com] moms ["Bridget" ] Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) ["Bridget" ] Re: (no subject) [Teresa Bonvino ] MY SIS IS ENGAGED!!! [Mindy J Munson ] Re: Matt Damon [Mindy J Munson ] Height (was Sad Girl) [Mindy J Munson ] Re: (no subject) [Paul Mischler ] Re: TCAT [Larry Dietrich ] Re: More Hockey [Larry Dietrich ] proof of withdrawal [Mindy J Munson ] Hoboken (an unreview) [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: BREAST SIZE ["Madd Hatter" ] Re: proof of withdrawal [Teresa Bonvino ] Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) [Cheesemaker Gem ] When you wish upon a star.... (warning: no fru-content) [Cheesemaker Gem ] Re: splatter splatter ["KatieWow" ] Re: Hoboken (New Jersey becomes Fr Jersey) ["KatieWow" ] Re: short...(was t-shirts) [Daniel Lerner ] OT: Northerner goes south... [drea1@my-dejanews.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 04:08:39 GMT From: Blushooz@aol.com Subject: (no subject) By the way, welcome to teresa! I'm brand-new myself. jess ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:21:21 -0600 From: "Bridget" Subject: moms just want to remind everyone... CALL YOUR MOMS TOMORROW..... - -- over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget (o: please visit my (perpetually under construction) home page... ... and sign my guest book... http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/pavilion/3576/ 'Thanks for the pizza, Kevin... sorry about the gay hooker.' :Fruwench, 02/22/99, sometime around 3 in the morning... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:08:49 -0600 From: "Bridget" Subject: Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) Neilbert wrote in message <3734fac2@news1.us.ibm.net>... :Heck, why not flip it around since the women here are listing who they like :from their own sex, so shall I. Have to have Harrison Ford on the list. Per :Gessle of Roxette (remember them?) and John Linnell of TMBG. And, to keep :this somewhat near frucontent, Jian. And I'm not just saying that - he has :that kind of smile in his eyes that, if I was interested in him, would get :me easily. : harrison ford... YES... jian??? for sure, man... but i *prefer* murray... *g* over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget (o: please visit my (perpetually under construction) home page... ... and sign my guest book... http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/pavilion/3576/ 'Thanks for the pizza, Kevin... sorry about the gay hooker.' :Fruwench, 02/22/99, sometime around 3 in the morning... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:51:55 -0400 From: Teresa Bonvino Subject: Re: (no subject) Blushooz@aol.com wrote: > > By the way, welcome to teresa! I'm brand-new myself. thank you muchly... =) > jess teresa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 05:01:53 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: MY SIS IS ENGAGED!!! YAY!!!! Even though Im pissed at them for not going to the fru concerts at House of Blues (a few mins from them). But they are both the best! and they have the best relationship (only working relationship)out of anyone in my family. fruchild, *canoodle!* ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 05:01:53 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Re: Matt Damon Matt=vomit. Antonio=soso I think its wonderful to see him with his kids. Its his person not his looks that I like fruchild, *canoodle!* On Fri, 07 May 1999 18:17:02 GMT Courtney_Malley@mgind.com writes: > >Jordan Wrote: > >Apparantly my perceptions of reality are just wrong. Next you'll be >telling me that >Matt Damon isn't a hottie... jordan > > >Well, *I* won't be telling you that............ I think Matt Damon is >adorable..........he's just not more adorable then David :-) > > >Courtney >Somethingblack.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 05:01:53 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Height (was Sad Girl) Although I have dated guys of all heights I have always said that I want a guy right around 5'8"-5'11". Perfect kissing height, none of this bending at the waist to kiss the midget (me). I think someone my brothers height is my goal ( i think he's 5'8" but he claims 5'9") Ironically enough, I've noticed from my pix that he is the same height as Jian =+) Coincidence? I think not fruchild, *canoodle!* >Hmmmmmm it makes me wonder if all the girl out there that like tall >guys...unconciuosly like them because they are less likely to be >staring at >our breasts. I mean not to say that a tall mad isn't going to look at >my >chest, but is he's not right across from him maybe it is less likely. >**Jiel** ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:52:03 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Re: (no subject) Well then, let me give you the unofficial greeting to a.m.m-f! As always, check www.fruvous.com for the latest information, FAQ, and other tidbits of information that you've always wanted to know, but were afraid to find out :-) - -Paul Mischler Blushooz@aol.com wrote: > By the way, welcome to teresa! I'm brand-new myself. > jess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 05:13:01 GMT From: Larry Dietrich Subject: Re: TCAT BBWMinors wrote in <19990508155526.12141.00000970@ng - -cq1.aol.com>: >Joni wrote ... > ><> > >yesyesyesyesyes ... but I think my fluttering heart (etc.) would have to >give top hottie vote to Brendan Fraser. (At least if we're sticking to >silver screen for now). > >QL > Ewan McGregor......Brendan Fraser...... Just coincidence that both names would rank pretty high on the sounding - -Canadian list? Dietrich ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 05:10:10 GMT From: Larry Dietrich Subject: Re: More Hockey Ben and Tara Cordes wrote in <37345F81.4AC8E1AA@mediaone.net>: >Paul Mischler wrote: >> >> WTF? The Bruins and Sabres aren't even playing tonight!!!! >> >> Lemme see... The Dallas Stars blanked the St. Louis Blues 3-0, if >> that's what you mean... Wake up and smell the espn.com!!! > >that was thursday's score, I just posted late. they play again tonight >at the fleet center. > >-tara > Ah.....no. It was 2-0 for awhile. And 3-1 for a while. But the final score, which is what MOST people ask about, was 4-2. Perhaps you're projecting. Dietrich ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 05:23:56 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: proof of withdrawal Ack! I won't even go into detail of the three dreams I've had since RIT (they get weirder and weirder) but Im having the worst case of fruwithdrawal. All the time I think, oh i got to tell Lisa this, or when will I see Anna, when will i meet Donna, damn i miss talking with Jian or what have you. I plan on presents for the lads bdays and contemplate what to pack for summer. But lets just take tonight for instance. So we go to see Oliver (it was ok except that Oliver couldn't sing). All I could think of was I wonder whats going down in Hoboken... Then during a song (I think it was "as long as he needs me") something was dropping or someone was sneezing or something but It reminded me of the drums in "Sleepy Drinker" Even in the car mom was talking about how i do *something* on principle (it was probably embarrass her or something; i was SO god awful hyper tonite!) and all I could think of was the comment from TO about eating things that taste like shit on principle. And oddly enough, I was driving mom to the store and I was listening to the radio (tape deck doesn't work) and she said "how can you drive with all that noise? I like Moxy Früvous better"... well yeah me too, but we cant have everything we want =+) but the point is, specific mention. Though, she is being a...er...brat lately about things concerning the band. but anyway, withdraw! ACK! fruchild, *canoodle!* ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 1999 05:29:32 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Hoboken (an unreview) There are those people on this newsgroup who type wonderful, complete, clear, entertaining reviews to various shows they attend. Alas, I am not one of them. What follows is an account of my day, with the things that stick out in my mind included. It will ramble, it will most likely not be grammtically correct in any way, but bear with me ;-) First off, I have to say that this has been close to the perfect weekend. Obviously a perfect weekend includes it being your birthday! And what luck-- having Fruvous in my home state on my birthday weekend. ;-) Them having only spent a toal of "three hours" in Hoboken, and not much more in the state of NJ ("since its near that other state,a dn that *other* state") the timing of it was almost kismet ;-) Friday (the actual birthday-- this is a little backgroung on this blissful weekend. Indulge me-- I'll consider it your gift ;-) I went and saw the Mummy (good, cheesy fun. I actually had to do the completely lame and totally pointless "watch the movie through your fingers" thing at several parts; always a good sign ;-) Afterwards, went and had some drinks with some friends. But saturday was the real celebration! I started it off by meeting up with friends in the city and seeing "Not About Nightengales." All I can say there is wow. Go see this play if you live anywhere near NYC. Its an old Tennessee Williams play that was never before produced, and is now playing at the Circle in the Square, which is this *very* cool theater where the seats are in a "u" surrounding the stage, which is just the floor, and there are no more than 10 rows at any given stage position. The performaces are just phenominal, and the story is very intense, and very well told. I do as much theater as I can, and I have to say this is without a doubt the best show I've seen in a long time. I think after this intense, moving, emotional theatrical experience, I was that much more ready for the fun of Fruvous! We arrived around 7:20, and was quite surprised to see just how "intimate" the show would be! The room, it turns out, holds only 225 people. So really, we figured, there wasn't a bad spot to be had, staked out a little piece of space about half way back, and listened to the opening act, who was an odd combination of the cheerleaders you knew in high school, the girl who plays Beth on newsradio, and the winner of some local hyena-calling contest. But not in a bad way;-) Of course, by this time we have come to realize that there actually *are* bad spots to be had, as the crowd begins its inevitable shift and the tall people magiclly migrate in front of us. We reposition a few times, and wait for the boys to come to the stage. And realize that when I say "come to the stage," I mean makeing their way from the entrance, through the crowd up to the front, and then climbing up. Magically, at this point the gods of people taller them me performed a Moses-like parting of the crowd, and I had a perfect view- all four lads, without having to crane around a head!! "Twas bliss ;-) I really am just too tired at too much at a loss for words to express to you how great I found this show. Suffice to say that its almost enough to convert me from the local frufan that I currently am to a bona fide "frutripper." Only time will tell ;-) Despite the small size, the energy in the place was amazing. The crowd, on the whole, was great-- dancing and clapping and singing and laughing, and from what I could see, very little chatting. Anyway, on to the performance. Like I said, not a set list, not in any order, just cool things as they occur to me: - --Since there was no "off stage" or "back stage" area, Dave had to pass his guitar, crowd-surfing style, over the audience to get it to Tobey. Jian mentioned that this was a traditional Persian custom, whereby the guitar would be "touched by the masses" (also the name of an upcoming album ;-) and later played. Guitars thus came and/or went a total of three times. - --The theme of the evening was "VH1- Behind the Music." Detatiling the down ward spiral of the band, into broken marriages and drug abuse. Dave, as the special would report, had taken to carrying around little ziplock bags of what appeared to be sugar. He had an insatiable sweet tooth, and the band had to step in with an "equal" intervention. - --I apparently was not the only birthday person in the crowd. Alas, mine was a private celebration while lynne's (I am unsure if this is a "poster"-- forgive my ignorance, but I tend to know all of you by your sig files ;-) was acknowledged and discussed by the band. It was proposed that each of us should buy her a drink,. but if you were there as a family, you could all chip in and get a supersized drink-- perhaps a slurpie with some alcohol added in ;-) - --Our "BREAST SIZE" disccussion made it into the intro to what I belive was "splatter splatter" (feel free to correct). Dave mentioned that Aliens had been on HBO the night before, and that he was highly disturbed by it. Murray suggested that he simply needed to build up his tolerance. Dave asked if this involved him having to rent "I Still Know What You Did Last Summer." To which Jian interjected "I Still KNow What Your Breast Size Was Last Summer." Without a doubt my favorite line of the evening ;-) - --Oh-- so you want to hear about the music too?? ;-) Because, with the exception of Pisco, IWHO, and Mistra KNow It All, I was largely unfamiliar with the new songs, I was psyched by how many they played. Both Pisco and IWHO were included. The entire crowd was loving Pisco. I *adored* splatter splatter, which I believe I may have head once before, but didn't quite catch the lyrics on. I had never heard River Valley live before, and honestly it had never been one of my favorite songs from Bargainville. But seeing the performance tonight gave me a completely different energy off of it, and now I know this wil be the new "song for Jen to obsess on" for awhile ;-) This went right into Get in the Car, which I thought was a really great pairing. They really complemented each other well, and kept the energy high. There is much much much more to be said on this front, but I see I am not even remotely doing it justice, so I will leave that to others. - --The thing about this place, as I mentioned, was that in order for the band to get to the stage they had to walk through the crowd. SO about halfway through the show I begin to wonder how they are going to work the encore. So after Psycho Killer (right??-- its a blur) the band kinda scurries over past stage Dave and just sort of hides in the corner ;-) We couldn't see them from where we were standing, but after the applause went on for a few, they popped back up and resumed their positions. Jian commented that it was about preserving the tradition of the encore, even if the band never actually left the stage ;-) I could go on (and on and on ;-). But the bottom line is I had an amazing time. Its funny how even though I read this ng regularly, and listen to the CDs and tapes, I still forget just how truly wonderful they are live. And I think that's a good thing, because I'm always blown away. One day, however, I swear I will stick around to see what actually happens "post show" at a fruvous show. I tend to just get my card stamped and leave, but I hope to someday investigate this after-glowish fru-community I read so much about ;-) OK, It's been a long, wonderful day, and the only way to end such a day is by getting obnoxiously delicious quantities of sleep. I am off the acheive this now. ~jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."--Rent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 05:39:26 GMT From: "Madd Hatter" Subject: Re: BREAST SIZE I'm a guy, and I have to agree, that armpit hair is rather icky...I have several swimmer friends who are forced to shave it, and once they told me that shaving it cut down on sweat, I tried it...it really works quite well... The Madd Hatter - ------------------------------------------------------- "Welcome to the Theater, to the magic, to the fun! Where painted trees and flowers grow,and laughter rings fortissimo, and Treachery's sweetly one." -- Lee Adams "Let us pray to God. . .the bastard! He doesn't exist!" - Samuel Beckett (Endgame) Jerry S. Levine Reply to nospam.maddhatter@spamsucks.earthling.net (can you figure out what to remove?) What's that green thing blocking the path? Boom...ow....boom...ow....boom...OW! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 01:51:56 -0400 From: Teresa Bonvino Subject: Re: proof of withdrawal Mindy J Munson wrote: > > Ack! I won't even go into detail of the three dreams I've had since RIT > (they get weirder and weirder) but Im having the worst case of > fruwithdrawal. All the time I think, oh i got to tell Lisa this, or when > will I see Anna, when will i meet Donna, damn i miss talking with Jian or > what have you. I plan on presents for the lads bdays and contemplate > what to pack for summer. But lets just take tonight for instance. > > So we go to see Oliver (it was ok except that Oliver couldn't sing). All > I could think of was I wonder whats going down in Hoboken... Then during > a song (I think it was "as long as he needs me") something was dropping > or someone was sneezing or something but It reminded me of the drums in > "Sleepy Drinker" Even in the car mom was talking about how i do > *something* on principle (it was probably embarrass her or something; i > was SO god awful hyper tonite!) and all I could think of was the comment > from TO about eating things that taste like shit on principle. And oddly > enough, I was driving mom to the store and I was listening to the radio > (tape deck doesn't work) and she said "how can you drive with all that > noise? I like Moxy Früvous better"... well yeah me too, but we cant have > everything we want =+) but the point is, specific mention. Though, she > is being a...er...brat lately about things concerning the band. > > but anyway, withdraw! ACK! i think i can understand what you're talking about! last night i had a dream that i was at a moxy show.. stage murray =) i really don't remember much of anything else about the dream, just that i was at a moxy show. . . and isn't that enough? i've only seen them twice and like, i need more. thats all i can say!! =) > fruchild, > *canoodle!* teresa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 06:32:30 GMT From: Cheesemaker Gem Subject: Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) - --- Teresa Bonvino wrote: > > > Cheesemaker Gem wrote: > > > > >... and gwenyth paltrow is pretty... did anyone > see > > >shakespeare in love?? > > > > Ack...i do not like gwyneth...her looks annoy me. > shes > > all bony and skinny and got these straight thin > lips > > and beady little eyes. i just dont see what people > see > > in her > > i mostly hate that shes skinny. skinnyness bothers > me. > > i know its the way people are, some people's body > > frames and shapes are bony and scrawny, but > man...i > > just feel like tying them all down and force > feeding > > them lard... > > calista flockhart im looking in your direction.... > > its taken me a while to like her, but once i saw > that movie i was in > awe.. i understand the disliking of those > obnoxiously skinny actresses, > though.. thats one of the reasons why i like kate > winslet so much..i > don't mean to say she's fat, because she's > definitely not.. but she's > not aneorexically thin... Exactly! shes the epitome of perfect female beauty, in my eyes. She gets a lot of shit for being *fat* and i think its absolutely ridiculous... that is what Hollywood has become; how upsetting. - -jen === The World's Shortest Pessimistic Poem: Hope? Nope. - -Robert Zeal _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 06:39:50 GMT From: Cheesemaker Gem Subject: When you wish upon a star.... (warning: no fru-content) YAYAYA! game 2: Stars 5-4 OT!! thats all :) - -starjen === The World's Shortest Pessimistic Poem: Hope? Nope. - -Robert Zeal _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 02:38:19 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: splatter splatter just wanted to mention that for the first two choruses of 'splatter, splatter' tonight at hoboken, jian said "she's just a teen" and for the last i'd bet that he said "she's just a tease." ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 02:31:34 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Hoboken (New Jersey becomes Fr Jersey) hey! i'm so glad you enjoyed yourselves. your daughter was adorable--did she get the signatures she wanted? did she mind all the profanities :) ? ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 02:36:42 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) well, humanism may be the *appropriate* term for what you've described, but what probably should be called humanism is actually feminism. all of the true, well-informed feminists i know subscribe to the set of beliefs that you have described, not stereotyping males and females just because of sex (which calls to mind a hoboken moment :) and treating people as people and not pegs in holes. ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 02:26:34 -0400 From: Daniel Lerner Subject: Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) I agree with Jen, red heads are definately the best. oddly enough, i've always found blondes least attractive. maybe its just me. green eyes are good too. or hazel. dan - -- "If cloning is outlawed then only outlaws will have clones" Sifyl humor of Dan and Stan: http://www.angelfire.com/ny/worldupsidedown RITCK Online: http://www.angelfire.com/ny/ritcirclek ICQ: 6976841 IM: wwwwud ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 02:18:27 -0400 From: Daniel Lerner Subject: Re: short...(was t-shirts) I'll definately take that 5'8 any day. at age 19, I just hit that 5'0 mark. been that height for six years now. Being only five foot and a guy definately isn't good. maybe i can just buy platforms dan - -- "If cloning is outlawed then only outlaws will have clones" Sifyl humor of Dan and Stan: http://www.angelfire.com/ny/worldupsidedown RITCK Online: http://www.angelfire.com/ny/ritcirclek ICQ: 6976841 IM: wwwwud ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 07:09:02 GMT From: drea1@my-dejanews.com Subject: OT: Northerner goes south... Yes, you read that right...the northernmost Ontario frühead is going south for the summer. I'm leaving Thunder Bay tomorrow to head back to my hometown of Chatham Ontario (making me the *southernmost* Ontario frühead afaik, there's a switch) for a summer accounting job. Which means you can expect to see me at weekend shows in Toronto/Buffalo/other Ontario dates that I can get to :) (That includes Thunder Bay if it's a weekend show *g* I'm not going to let my whining go to waste if I can help it!) My net access is going to be pretty limited, so the best way to get in touch with me is to email me at the Dejanews address :) Special hugs to everyone on #mf, I'm going to miss you guys (Yes Adam, even your puns *g*). Chrissy and Fiona - call me! :) To everyone else, hopefully I'll be seeing you at Fort Erie or sooner :) *hugs all round* Drea P.S. Special note to any Frülurkers reading this: Tracy wanted me to give you a *fudge alert* for the next Thunder Bay show - she's talking about making espresso and triple (chocolate) threat fudge for you :) "We are evil. Fear us. That's the point right?" - Fiona, May 1/99 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #391 ********************************************