From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #367 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, April 30 1999 Volume 03 : Number 367 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ADULT PRODUCTS SALE - THIS WEEK ONLY! 74852 [adultstore@hotmail.com] Utica!!! [Leah ] My first concert [Larry Dietrich ] Re: the all the hockey smack goin' on [Matthew Wiser ] Re: TP story? [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)] Clifton Park, May 6 [Thomas Fazzio ] Re: Want moxy videos? (long) [jessika@ecn.ab.ca ()] Re: the all the hockey smack goin' on [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n)] Portland, June 2 [Myrlin Hermes ] Re: Want moxy videos? (long) [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n)] Met Cafe [as075@juno.com] Fruvous Junk. [as075@juno.com] Re: Met Cafe ["Adam Hartfield" ] Re: Met Cafe [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Frvous on NPR [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Jess Klein ["Hell Hotel" ] Re: My first concert ["KatieWow" ] OT: BFF new album..HOLY CRAP! ["Hell Hotel" ] Re: My first concert ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Jess Klein [Nate DeRose ] Re: the all the hockey smack goin' on [piechota@cse.buffalo.edu (Matthew ] Re: Jess Klein [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Styleen's Review --LONG (Kinda) [Paul ] Re: Jess Klein ["Zainab" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Friday, 30 Apr 1999 01:21:37 -0600 From: adultstore@hotmail.com Subject: ADULT PRODUCTS SALE - THIS WEEK ONLY! 74852 Adult Novelties, Toys, CD ROMS, Lingerie, Videos, and MORE ! Secure and Discreet. Privacy Guaranteed ! FREE Shipping for US orders ! Lowest Prices ! http://www.freeyellow.com/members7/adultstore/page1.html (weBQRPX>2?s0/J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:01:06 EDT From: Leah Subject: Utica!!! So, I'm on a high right now. In less than 24 hours I will be enjoying a fabulous concert in an otherwise crappy city! I can't wait!!! Utica here I come (again)! Leah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:53:31 GMT From: Larry Dietrich Subject: My first concert Well, I just saw the band for the first time. Last summer, I heard some great a cappella singing and harmonies on NPR's "All Things Considered"while driving my 3-year-olds home from day care. I remembered enough of the name to track the band down on the Web, so I knew whose CDs to search for. Weeks passed, but I finally bought "Live Noise" and "You Will Go to the Moon" on vacation, and started listening to the studio album at my mother-in-laws house. I was a little disappointed, but I was also trying to listen to it in an environment peopled by skeptics, especially my wife. Then I listened to "Live Noise," and was knocked over. Since then I've tracked down the rest of the CDs. I managed to partially convert my wife by forcing her to listen to "Live Noise" -- a captive audience in a car driving to Providence. I botched an attempt to see them in December when they played Central New York by waiting too long to get tickets. I jumped all over Ticketmaster when they announced the Syracuse concert tonight. It was great. My wife had a terrific time. We were among the oldest people there, but we also brought with us someone who was probably the youngest -- our baby is minus 2 months, due in early July.Can't start 'em too young. The old songs were great. The new songs were good. The improvisation while waiting for the bass to be repaired -- and then replaced -- was wonderful. One question, for you more experienced fans..... So why are the guys so obsessive about their microphones. They kept moving them around so they'd always have their own, instead of just moving from position to position and just using what's there. And the reason is......? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:43:30 -0400 From: Matthew Wiser Subject: Re: the all the hockey smack goin' on Srm9988n wrote: > > Guess we need an expansion team in Raleigh-Durham so that the whole ng can get > into this fight, eh? > I thought the Hurricanes played in Raleigh, but I'm probably confused. Matt, the usually confused ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:58:59 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: Review: U of R 4/27/99 In article <19990429015245.29110.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com>, adifru@yahoo.com says... > (by the way, Dave-o was sporting a > beautiful Pisco Bandito shirt that nite...very nice > work Kat!!!) Can I just mention again how totally floored I *still* am that one of the guys actually wore it? Honestly, I never expected them to. As if I needed another reason to worship Dave. k@ (and thanks again, Paul, for sending me that picture the very same evening) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:43:26 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: **itinerary update** In article , bnl_gordon@email.msn.com says... > now, be honest, kat... frightening a restaurateur into submission *may* be > legal... but is it ethical? hmm... so does that make you non-criminally > insane, or insanely unethical? Frightening? Frightening? He was a little *confused*, sure - but that was mostly due to the language barrier. I certainly didn't frighten him! Submission? Not my bag, baby! Unethical? Me, who feels guilty for having a *dream* about *thinking* about photographing a celebrity while the person is asleep & can't give permission? (Don't ask.) Besides, don't you think I fully intend to go back to that restaurant (/me reminds you all that Pad Thai is *nature's perfect food*) next year, with as many of my friends in tow as possible, order a big meal and ask him (his name's Peter, by the way) if he remembers me, the crazy American toilet paper lady? Of course I've gotta show my gratitude! k@ gratitude does not extend to picking up the check for the aforementioned many friends' meals, unless I win a lottery between now and next February. And I don't play the lottery. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:21:52 GMT From: Cheesemaker Gem Subject: TP story? ...he remembers me, the crazy American toilet paper lady? hehe, im intrigued now. Someone please fill me in! - -jen === The World's Shortest Pessimistic Poem: Hope? Nope. - -Robert Zeal _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:46:27 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: TP story? In article <19990430071612.11936.rocketmail@web103.yahoomail.com>, darlene88@yahoo.com says... > hehe, im intrigued now. Someone please fill me in! Wow...little more than two months have gone by, and already so many new people have since joined our crowd and expressed their total bewilderment at this subject. Really, I *will* get the whole story put up on my web page one day soon, so I can just point the curious there with a URL. I've even got a disposable camera now (alas, the real camera has not yet recovered from the damage it sustained that same fateful Night Of The Gigantbox) so I may even have a picture to accompany it. For now, Ms. Cheese, it's late at night, and so I will e-mail you a detailed account (and won't you be sorry you asked!) at another time. k@ 42 days and counting down...*Will* the Gigantbox finally get its long- awaited Budgie? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:20:51 -0400 From: Thomas Fazzio Subject: Clifton Park, May 6 Well, I have a comp sci final on Thursday May 6 from 3 to 6 pm exactly 3.5 hours from Clifton Park. That means the earliest I could possibly get to the concert without flunking my exam (which I won't do) is 9:30 pm. Hmmm, sounds like a Früchallange to me =) btw - Jess Klein will be the opener for that show... too bad it seems I will still be on the road while she is on. later, tom ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 99 10:25:53 GMT From: jessika@ecn.ab.ca () Subject: Re: Want moxy videos? (long) Fru-Monique (frumonique92@yahoo.com) wrote: : > > so, canadians-with-fruvous-videos, how 'bout it? : > *grin* : Do Americans-with-Früvous-videos count? :) In other : words, I've got one. I don't have two VCRs, though. : Anyone know what I can do to contribute? My inaugural post here.. Wonder if I should be doing this to myself? :) As the above-poster said, I also only have one VCR. I do have about.. oh, an hour, hour and a half of Fru-videos (their Just For Laughs gala appearance in '94, their Adrienne Clarkson presents interview, their "Year in Review" from 199... umm.. 3? on Royal Canadian Air Farce, etc) that I've collected over the years. Don't know what others have or would be interested in. I don't think I've taped anything NEW in three years or so, so everything I have is from before that. 'ka - -- Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/4762 Northern Harmony Canadian A Cappella Festival, 1999 in Edmonton * Try your hand at a cappella trivia - http://www.a-cappella.com * ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 1999 11:30:51 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: the all the hockey smack goin' on Matt said: >I thought the Hurricanes played in Raleigh, but I'm probably confused. I can't remember where the heck they play, but for some reason I thought Charleston, which puts them in SC not NC. So I suppose FrüKid technically *could* cheer for them, but i don't see much point in the exercise -- especially with a team that claims to represent two entire states not all that well. > Matt, the usually confused Welcome to the club! :D - -- Lori, perpetually confused, but doesn't let it stop her. ******************************* Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:27:35 -0700 From: Myrlin Hermes Subject: Portland, June 2 Is anyone else going to be at the June 2nd Portland, OR show? I've never seen MF live before *and* it's the same day my book (which has been in the publishing mechanisms for 2+ years) comes out, so I plan on being there and in the front row dancing and drinking and making balloon animals for everyone until I pass out. Are there other fruheads in pdx? The only ones I know here are the ones I have forced to be by playing Moxy Fruvous at them 'til it infected their brains. Myrlin **************************************************************************** "I always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more specific." --Lily Tomlin ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 1999 11:34:52 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: Want moxy videos? (long) 'ka wrote: >My inaugural post here.. Wonder if I should be doing this to myself? :) Welcome 'ka! Fiona snags another recruit, woo-hoo! So glad you could join us! Anyway, I'm sure she's already given you the basic pointers on hie-ing yourself promptly to FDC and the absolutely imperative nature of always staying on topic, so I'll dispense with that -- but I'm so glad you can join us! - -- Lori, proving once again that she checks out everyone else's webpage links. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:30:52 GMT From: as075@juno.com Subject: Met Cafe Is anyone going the the Moxy Fruvous Show May 7 at the Met Cafe in Providence RI. Thomas PS. The Boston Bruins are going to win it all ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:30:52 GMT From: as075@juno.com Subject: Fruvous Junk. Today I received an email from an adult bookstore. I have accepted getting junk mail with my messages. But this message came from the ammf@fruvous.com listserver. This junk email is not supposed to be a part of the Moxy Fruvous List Server. What can we do. I get 50 to 100 messages a day from the list server I don't want half to be junk mail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:54:39 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: Met Cafe > Is anyone going the the Moxy Fruvous Show May 7 at the Met Cafe in > Providence RI. I'm gonna try to go...but I can't make any guarantees. See you there, maybe, - --Adam adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:39:21 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Met Cafe as075@juno.com delighted us with: >Is anyone going the the Moxy Fruvous Show May 7 at the Met Cafe in >Providence RI. Yes. :) Currently, including me, at least 5 people that I know of. Possibly 6. Fair Warning: Providence can be hell to find your way around in. Especially downtown Providence. Especially considering the fact that there's a LOT of construction going on right now, right around the exit mentioned in the directions on FDC. I haven't tried them out yet, personally, but I will next week, and will post Directions Amendments, and Confusing Turns To Look Out For, then. If I forget and you're counting on them, e-mail me and kick my butt. - -v, who uses that same exit at least five days a week.... Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net "i'm not a mess. i'm a natural disaster." -norg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:35:57 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Frvous on NPR "Zainab" delighted us with: >Oh, I'm sure it's legit. Jude just said that she >would post again when she was sure, and >since she hasn't posted again, I was looking >for more certainty, since I'm taking a final >during the airing of Friday's show. I called NPR yesterday. The [very helpful and wonderfully nice] lady [who knew who Fruvous were right away] said that since this isn't an interview but rather a "commentary" that they "submitted" (whatever that means), and since it does not concern any of the current hot news topics in particular, "those decisions are made on a daily basis" and there really isn't a way to know in advance. Comforting, huh? :) The nice lady also said, though, that there's no chance that it'll air on the Weekend Edition of ATC. Only Monday through Friday. That narrows it down a bit. - -v, who wonders if she'll be able to still catch NPR at 4-6, when on her way to Utica Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net "i'm not a mess. i'm a natural disaster." -norg ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 1999 13:26:42 GMT From: "Hell Hotel" Subject: Jess Klein Hey fruHeads, I hear that Jess Klein will be opening at the clifton park show...anyone care to let me know what she sounds like? thanks - -Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:00:31 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: My first concert i'm glad you enjoyed your first show so much! on the subject of the mics, i have come up with two possible answers: 1. the guys don't want to get each other sick 2. they move around quite a bit, and if they didn't have the same mic all the time, it would be a pain in the ass for cal to figure out which guy had what mic and adjust levels accordingly. if each of the guys hang on to their own mic throughout the show, it makes it easier for the sound man :). those are just my theories :). ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 1999 13:37:52 GMT From: "Hell Hotel" Subject: OT: BFF new album..HOLY CRAP! Sorry about this off topicness, but I just bought the new Ben Folds Five album 'Reinhold Messner'. All I can say is Holy CRAP! I love it already, it lacks alot of high energy songs that they're known for earlier on but they make up for that with Army, which i'm sure you've all heard on the radio or on TV. The song that really got me was track #3 Mess, I think this song sounds alot like Elliott Smith's Waltz#2. If I remember right Ben was doing the piano on Elliott's last tour...or something like that. well just thought i'd share this wit cha. - -Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:33:54 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: My first concert > So why are the guys so obsessive about their microphones. They kept > moving them around so they'd always have their own, instead of just moving > from position to position and just using what's there. And the reason > is......? I don't think it is obsessiveness. :) I believe they do that because Cal (the sound man) has individual levels set for each of the guys. If they switched off, they'd ruin his mix. Plus, it would get very confusing for him. If Murray started out on channel 1 and then moved to channel 3 which had been Mike's and then Dave says "Callie, can I have a bit more of Mur-man in my monitor?" Then Cal can't just look at the labels on his board, he's got to figure out who is where and which channel needs to go up. A.J. - -- See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:46:59 -0400 From: Nate DeRose Subject: Re: Jess Klein Hell Hotel wrote: > > Hey fruHeads, > I hear that Jess Klein will be opening at the clifton park show...anyone > care to let me know what she sounds like? thanks Two words: Ani DiFranco :) (Although, she can sing Summertime better than anyone I've ever heard.) nate ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 1999 14:43:28 GMT From: piechota@cse.buffalo.edu (Matthew A Piechota) Subject: Re: the all the hockey smack goin' on In article <19990429122959.17984.00000005@ng-fb1.aol.com>, Srm9988n wrote: >We must forgive her, she knows not from pucks and ice, being from the wilds of >Tarheel Country. :) > >Guess we need an expansion team in Raleigh-Durham so that the whole ng can get >into this fight, eh? Isn't Carolina playing there next year? Or did they play there last season and aren't anymore. >-- Lori (Let's Go Flyers! da-da-da-da Let's Go Flyers! da-da-da-da) The Flyers can go all they want until the Sabres beat them. (provided the Flyers get past the Leafs) - -- Matt Piechota http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~piechota Fruvous Count: 16 How do you tell an outgoing Computer Science major? They look at *your* shoes when they talk to you instead of their own. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:26:46 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Jess Klein Nate DeRose delighted us with: >Two words: >Ani > >DiFranco Erm. *cough* I think I disagree. Jess, to me, comes off as just as multifaceted, talented and golden-voiced as Ani, but I perceive their styles as completely different. Jess' lyrics, to me, sound... I don't know, less sharp? Ani has an intensity to her that can be heard both in her "angry" songs and her "placid" songs (oooh, I really don't like those qualifications, but I can't come up with anything better right now). Jess is intense in a different, quieter, way, and some of her songs don't have an Underlying Intensity, to me. They're meaningful and beautiful, but not Ani-intense, you know? An example of that last one would be the Cloud Song. ymmv, - -v Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net "i'm not a mess. i'm a natural disaster." -norg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:05:43 -0400 From: Paul Subject: Styleen's Review --LONG (Kinda) WOW! What a great show! What a great venue! All I can say is that shows like last nights is why I love Fruvous so much... I got to Syracuse right on time for the opener... Sarah Harmer??? (sp?). She was very good (looking forward to seeing her again in Utica tonight). I claimed my spot (leaned against the post in the center of the room) and stayed there the whole evening... the room started to fill up quite a bit once Sarah ended her set... which is too bad. People missed a great opening act. The lads came on stage around 10:30 and opened with "Down from Above", a song I had never seen performed live. They continued with the Wood album going into "Horseshoes", then "Fly" and then "Present Tense Tureen"... all performed brilliantly! I was psyched! I thought for sure I was going to hear "Poor Mary Lane" and "Organ Grinder" (another Wood song I have yet to hear live)... but alas, "PPT" was the last Wood song of the evening... they immediately delved into an energetic version of "Johnny Saucep'n", which after the song Murray made a comment about his lung capacity being pushed to the limit... "Kick in the Ass" followed. It seemed like one song went right into another with little time for any banter early on. The lads took a pause to intro "YWGTTM" by chatting a bit about S.U. and then Neil Armstrong... some funny stuff all around... 'Neil Armstrong the Action Figure -- with Karate Chop Action!' Again... another great rendition of a popular Fru tune! Murray mistakenly called Neil Armstrong -- Neil Young -- and from there the banter took off! Jian made comments about a guy wearing a tie to the show and said that people should really start dressing up for the shows... from there they started working in some instruments but Dave took the improv in a new direction and was proud to stump the guys with his rendition of "Walking on the Moon". This went on for a while with bits of "Broadway" and "Golden Years" mixed in... very cool ditty! "Splatter, Splatter" followed... I had never heard this, and have listened to it a few times already since the show, and I really LOVE it! I was so wowed by this tune that my thoughts were focused on it and I missed the next bit of improv, but it was short and the lads went right into "Too Careful" (this song is growing on me). Murray 'stunned' the crowd by announcing to Cal that the battery in his bass was dead, so the guys played an extremely cool version of The Kinks tune "So Tired" while Tobey "fixed" the bass. It still had some distortion when they started playing "When She Talks" so the guys stopped the song to borrow the opening act bass players bass (follow that?)... this is why I love Fruvous... they could have finished the song with the distortion and changed basses after, but they stopped and then started up again from the beginning... Jian said that by now, we all should know the words and to sing along ;) Mike teased the intro to "Pisco" by saying the fish song they were about to sing was "Big Fish"... not so. The 'Strudel/Noodle' verse is back in and sounds great! I've always liked this version and missed it when they started leaving that verse out... I'm glad it's back in, and I really hope this song is on the new album! "River Valley" was next and "Get in the Car" followed... I'm starting to see a trend here (they've played these 2 songs back to back lately -- they go great together)! Little did we know last night, that we as Fruvous fans were in for a special treat! Dave and Murray captivated us with the rarely played live version of "Bittersweet". The crowd was so quiet, Sprint could have used us for their pin drop commercials. I would like to have heard the infectious drum beat in the background, but I was thrilled just to hear Murray sing the song. Next up in the 'Moxy Fruvous Sectionals' was Jian and Mike... "Homeward Bound". Jian never ceases to amaze me... he can sound like Simon and Garfunkel, Michael Jackson, David Byrne, etc... the guy is incredible! A rocking version of "King of Spain" got the crowd moving again. I was surprised "GE&H" didn't follow. "Darlington Darling" instantly made up for my initial minor disappointment though. They closed with a slightly milder version of "Love Potion"... I say milder only because Mike didn't break any guitar strings (he usually snaps 2-3 on that song alone). I would bet the costs for new ones after every show would add up after a while ;) The guys came back out and Jian started up a bit of 'cheer leading' by raising his hands and lowering them to the get the crowd going while Dave tried to get the banjo 'working' for what looked to be "Michigan Militia". They gave up and started in with "Psycho Killer" instead. Jian was funny (as usual) with his intro... requesting silence with hand gestures, and looking a bit annoyed when someone clapped or yelled... he looked like he was having fun, and the crowd enjoyed it. I'm not sure if "Pyscho Killer" replaced "Michigan Militia" of if they just skipped that song totally... someone who snagged a set list can prolly verify this. For their second encore, the lads dedicated "I Will Hold On" for Rodney... a tribute done with a lot of class and I really praise the guys for their thoughtfulness and compassion. Jian had a touching and moving intro speech for the song, and I'm sure everyone hopes to see Rodney back at some Fru shows real soon. The show ended with "My Poor Generation". It was so good to hear a well played set with great sound and a good crowd, and despite the minor instrument problems, the guys put on a fantastic show that is among one of my favorites. The RIT and UofR shows were fun college shows, but this one was in a totally different category... extremely well done! Looking forward to Utica! Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:39:05 -0500 From: "Zainab" Subject: Re: Jess Klein I agree with you both. Nate used fewer words, and Vika was more articulate, but I think that Ani is a good jumping off point for describing Jess. Jess is good! Definitely worth seeing! Zainab Vika Zafrin wrote in message <3729cab2.11266631@news3.ibm.net>... >Nate DeRose delighted us with: > >>Two words: >>Ani >> >>DiFranco > >Erm. *cough* I think I disagree. Jess, to me, comes off as just as >multifaceted, talented and golden-voiced as Ani, but I perceive their >styles as completely different. Jess' lyrics, to me, sound... I don't >know, less sharp? Ani has an intensity to her that can be heard both >in her "angry" songs and her "placid" songs (oooh, I really don't like >those qualifications, but I can't come up with anything better right >now). Jess is intense in a different, quieter, way, and some of her >songs don't have an Underlying Intensity, to me. They're meaningful >and beautiful, but not Ani-intense, you know? An example of that last >one would be the Cloud Song. > >ymmv, > >-v ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #367 ********************************************