From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #227 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, March 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 227 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Banjo [Cameron_Ross@ufacademy.com (Cameron Ross)] Re: Off topic but relevant to all... [Christi218@aol.com] Re: Some random and childish abuse [Eve Lauria ] Re: FruCon 2 IRC [elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James)] Legend ["M. Demetriou" ] Re: Mindy reads the quotes- halloween [Eve Lauria ] Lori and Tom's Adventure Part2 ["andi andrzejewski" ] Re: New to list [Chad Maloney ] Re: Lori and Steve's Big TO Adventure (part 2) [Chad Maloney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:34:21 GMT From: Cameron_Ross@ufacademy.com (Cameron Ross) Subject: Re: Banjo ammf@fruvous.com writes: > >> (WXPN has hinted that they are looking into setting one up. > >> Here's hoping they do!) > > >Oh cool. /me recalls a recent WBER interview where most of the questions >were > >asked by #moxyfruvous. We need to do that more often *g* 'Specially when we get Doug to call :), I loved loved reading the transcript on the what "You're calling from Where?!" - - Life101 - "[I] Pack my piece, my piece of mind" -Rick Fines ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:08:46 GMT From: Christi218@aol.com Subject: Re: Off topic but relevant to all... This is actually a Hoax. You can read more about it at: http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html (or just see below). Christine. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------ Internet Access Charges January 1999 This is a variant of the historic modem tax hoax of bygone years. This latest version started making its rounds on Nov 06, 1998, based apparently on a CNN story. Early versions pointed the finger at the FCC as the villian in this story. Then it was 'the government', then it was 'the Congress'. FCC statement: "... the FCC has no intention of assessing per-minute charges on Internet traffic or of making any changes in the way consumers obtain and pay for access to the Internet." ******************************** Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 10:03 PM Looks like Congress has found another way to tax us. There is a new bill in US Congress that will be affecting all Internet users. You might want to read this and pass it on. CNN stated that the government would in two weeks time decide to allow or not allow a charge to your (OUR) phone bill each time you access the internet. Please visit the following URL and fill out the necessary form! The address is http://www.house.gov/writerep/ If EACH one of us, forward this message on to others in a hurry, we may be able to prevent this from happening! (Maybe we CAN fight the phone company!) ********************************* This alert is a hoax. The earliest electronic version of it, which does not urge any particular action but merely reports and comments on the story, appeared on Usenet on Nov 06, 1998. Appearing under the thread "INTERNET PER MINUTE FEES COMING?" on the ba.internet news group, it cited a CNN story aired that same day. A later version, urging everyone to contact Congress, appeared on Nov 18, 1998 in a different news group and referenced an FCC release dated Oct 30, 1998 as the source of the CNN story. The actual FCC proceeding which apparently set off this mushrooming flurry of alerts dealt with the 'reciprocal billing' issue, which relates to charges for interconnectivity between various telcos. In reaction to it, the FCC issued an official statement of December, 1998, which can be found at < http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/nominute.html>. This publication restates that the reciprocal billing issue does not include any proposal to have metered billing of any sort by the telcos for internet usage. Reputable organizations producing legislative alerts will include some basic information which will assist the reader in determining how and when to respond. Most if not all of this information was missing from this spurious alert. 1) Congress does not vote as a single body. Any alert should name the specific body (House or Senate) scheduled to vote to whom letters/email should be sent. It will also indicate whether this is in front of a committee, and which committee, or that it is set for a floor vote. 2) At a minimum, a specific bill number will be cited such as S.1615 or H.R.3888. The reader can then check the Congressional bill status web site to determine the precise current status of the bill before writing to your member of Congress about it. 3) A specific alert date, and a deadline date for responses, will be included to help in determining whether the alert is stale. 4) A legitimate alert will say exactly what is wrong with (or right with) the bill, possibly even citing a specific section. Check the language of the bill on Thomas to ensure that amendments to the bill in between the time the alert went out and the time that you're reading it haven't changed it to the point where the alert is no longer relevant. It should also be noted that this alert began making its rounds after the 105th Congress had adjourned. Although the House of Representatives came back into a lame duck (post election) session to consider the issue of impeachment of the president, no other issues were considered. And the Senate did not reconvene at all. The 106th Congress was officially convened in early January, 1999. At the time the new Congress is seated at the beginning of every odd numbered year, all bills not enacted into law by the end of the previous Congress are swept away. The new Congress starts over with a clean slate, introducing entirely new bills which must make their way through the entire legislative process. A legislative alert from 1998 is null and void in January, 1999, whether it was spurious at the time or not. Charles Oriez coriez@netone.com National Legislative Chair Association of Information Technology Professionals - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:54:52 GMT From: Eve Lauria Subject: Re: Some random and childish abuse > > That song was part of the best dance scene in Dirty Dancing. I forget the > names of the singers. *Somebody* and Sylvia I think. Yeah it went: "Sylvia?" > "Yes (David, Fred, or something)" "How do you call your lover boy?" "Baaaby" > "And what if he doesn't come?" "I say Bay-ay-by" "And what if he Still > doesn't come?" "then I say, Baby ooOOooh baby, etc" *sigh* Jennifer Grey > *sigh* > -- > Arbie It's Mickey and Sylvia. That movie was my obssession when I was 10. I would go over to my best friend's house and we would watch it, waiting for that one brief shot of Patrick Swayze's butt, and then we would play Barbies. For some reason, the "good" Ken was always named Johnny. Funny that. :) *cough cough* Eve ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 1999 14:45:07 GMT From: elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) Subject: Re: FruCon 2 IRC chad schrock (chad@radix.net) wrote: : Jon Knight wrote: : > chad schrock (chad@radix.net) wrote: : > : Hey, did you hear if they are moving Bletchly Park to : > : Fort Meade? : > : > Pity they couldn't move Mentwith Hill at the same time... :-) I know where Ft. Meade is, but where are Bletchly Park (what a lovely name!) and Mentwith Hill? I don't think those are anywhere near Columbia..? - -Sir John Johns - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:54:40 GMT From: "M. Demetriou" Subject: Legend mandy wrote: >Date: 3 Mar 1999 03:31:18 GMT >From: remcoat@aol.com (REMcoat) >Subject: Re: Hheathers > >>Wouldn't that also involve getting Christian Slater on the ng? > >ah, i saw him in Star Trek VI: The Undiscoverd Country last friday (cool >cameo). very good film. i'm such a damn trekkie. i've had a crush on william >shatner since i was 4. he's so cool. whatta hunk! heh heh heh Can't say I have a crush on Bill, but Christian, well, that's another story. And it was a cool cameo. > >love, mandy the 80's girl... >j.a. Wow, you *are* an eighties girl!! I love that song. The movie, by all measurable standards, really stinks, but I watch it over and over and over. I love Mia Sara. And I love that song!! This is a much better tune to have in my head all day than "If You're Happy and You Know It," which is left over from bringing my daughter to daycare. Although, I do have a picture of Dave as KofS on my desktop, so I get to hum that all day, too. Melanie How very. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:56:00 GMT From: Eve Lauria Subject: Re: Mindy reads the quotes- halloween *raising hand up high* Me! Me! I had a HUGE crush on Lion-O from the Thundercats! That was my favorite show! Eve On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Anna! wrote: > In article <19990303.224614.-3954709.5.SHAZALINREA@juno.com>, > Mindy J Munson wrote: > > > (i had the biggest crush on that darn cartoon fox!) > > Oh god, so did I. That's really funny! I feel remarkably, well, the same. But > still! > > A friend of mine was telling me the other day about her childhood crush on > Jafar from Aladdin. That I found a little weird, but then, I'm sure its just > because he kind of scared me and I'm not really into that kind of thing! But > regardless, I was still noticing how often children get crushes on cartoons. > My cousin, for example, had a crush on Lady, from Lady and the Tramp. I > wonder why that is. Maybe it's Disney. > > I had a lot of weird crushes as child. I still do, in fact. I'm almost 20, I > think I really need to find a fulfilling relationship :) > > working, really, i swear. > -anna- > http://elements.dreamhost.com > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:54:13 GMT From: "andi andrzejewski" Subject: Re: Sleep: merely a passing fad? Sun Tzu most definately did write "The Art Of War" it's a classic of Japanese Literature and most serious martial artists a very familiar with it -- it's also becomming popular with the coporate giant types Andi - -- On Thu, 04 Mar 1999 01:48:08 Vika Zafrin wrote: >nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) delighted us >with: > >>>At least, that's what I'm using it for right now! Sleep vs. Machiavelli's 'Art >>>of War' ... >> >>Isn't that Sun Tzu? (Machiavelli wrote _The Prince_. They're among >>the required texts for the Computer Security class I'm dying to >>take... the professor is severely cool.) > >/me goes to look in her Machiavelli's Complete Works > >Machiavelli also wrote _On the Art of War_ (Dell'arte della guerra). >Juuuust about 100 pages. As Machiavellian writing goes, it isn't half >bad. > >Mind you, Sun Tzu may also have written a book by this name. But I >have no knowledge of that, either way. > > >Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net > >"[Our dog] gives birth every three years, like clockwork, > to puppies that look like a hybrid between a stray and a > crocodile." -from Anton Chekhov's correspondence > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 1999 14:49:10 GMT From: elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) Subject: Re: Jersey : > But now that I know and love them, I'm commited to trying to : > get them to play : > in NJ! (Or the lower north-east in general.) : Aren't they playing in Princeton in two months or so? But my geography is : off...so maybe Princeton isn't even in Jersey...it's probably near Toledo. : Wherever *that* is ;) Princeton is nearer to Trenton than it is Newark, it is in New Jersey between Trenton and NYC. Oh and the NJ/NY phenomen at Towson University? Well, it was true at Loyola, too, it seemed like 70% of the students were from there and at least 25% had that damn accent! (sorry, that was harsh) Those Long Islander and New Jerseyites come down to Maryland to go to school for some reason. Just an observation, - -Sir John Johns - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:58:45 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Venue Size Megan wrote: > I have a question. What size venue do the guys usually play? I've > never been to a concert, that's why I don't know. I'm hatching a plot > to have Moxy Fruvous come to RPI. :) It really depends. Since Fruvous is built on grassroots and word of mouth and not large scale media, the venue size in a given city depends on a couple things. Mostly it depends on how many times they have played that city before. Places like Buffalo where they've been playing awhile they can play two nights at a place that's maybe 800[1] people and get close to selling both out if not actually selling them out. Radio play also helps. Witness Philadelphia, where XPN supports the band and they sold out a 1200[1] person venue the day before the show. In certain places there is an already established "great venue" that seems to just generate people naturally. The Iron Horse in Northampton is like that. So is the Ark in Ann Arbor. It's just places where special stuff usually happens and so a lot of people travel there which bolsters up the local Frufan contingents. Out here where I am in the midwest, Fruvous is doing well, but still growing. In cities like Columbus OH, they sell out a 400[1] person all ages show. But they also have new markets where they have only played once or twice before. They fill up the Second Story in Bloomington IN, where they've played twice. It holds probably around 150[1] people. So, really it depends. If you are in a place that Fruvous doesn't play or hasn't played in a couple years, it could vary a lot. If you are in a place where they play a lot near there, it could get reasonably big. Hope that helps a little bit. - Chad [1] All those numbers are estimates based on nothing but me guessing how big a place is. Sorry if I'm way off. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:22:01 GMT From: "andi andrzejewski" Subject: Lori and Tom's Adventure Part2 Lori wrote :Andi, I hope you enjoyed the one I gave you -- I thought I was just going to melt into the floor. Lori - i'm still trying to un-melt it was terrific!Thanks andi Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:00:48 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: Tory Cassis and DeGrassi Junior High? In article <7bl6md$oja$1@winter.news.rcn.net>, "KatieWow" wrote: > "In a phenomenon sweeping the nation, Toronto musician Tory Cassis ended his > co-residence with Toronto musician Murray Foster late last month . . . " > ~~kate "No comment yet from Foster himself, but his bandmates have released a statement that simply read 'Way to Go Murray.' No word yet on whether this sweeping phenomenon will affect Mr. Foster's 'Bass and Whistle Tour' set to kick off in early 2000." ;) Criminy. this is like a really twisted Fruvous version of the 'Daily Show'! - -anna- http://elements.dreamhost.com - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 10:17:27 -0500 From: Maige Subject: Re: Off topic but relevant to all... petit_chou@juno.com wrote: > > Alright kids. I care. That is why I am going to be a little harsh here. > Update: > > Internet Access Rumor Revisited > FCC's Feb. 25 ruling does not impose long distance charges on consumer > access > For more information, see: > > No Consumer Per-Minute Charges to Access ISPs > Dec. '98 Fact Sheet from the FCC > FCC Chairman's Statement > Nov. 11 speech to Regulatory Commissioners > FCC Again Says It Won't Tax Internet > Reuters news coverage, Nov. 7, 1998 > Internet Access Fees (Again?) (NOT!) > David Spalding's in-depth 'Hoax du Jour' feature Thanks, Heather, for your 'words of wisdom'. I knew that I could count on someone here to find the truth. Please note that I never said that the post was true...just that I recieved it from a listserv and that it might be interesting to some ppl. Anyway, I'll pass on the information you provided to the listserv...without the 'harshness', of course...for the general public are but sheep, right? - -- ************************************************* "Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... Blood -screaming- inside you to work it's will." "Lover's Walk" -- Spike BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER 11/24/1998AD ************************************************* ICQ Fru-fans List: http://www.bigfoot.com/~fruvous Contact me at: Fruvous@bigfoot.com ICQ# 8662607 kats@mail.microserve.net LadyMaige@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:29:22 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: New to list andi andrzejewski wrote: > > Welcome Roy and i don't know if you've tried CD Now > but they seem to carry a bit of Fruvous on their site and many of the folks > on this ng are wonderful about sharing knowledge of where to find things - > and if Fruvoous won't come to you feel free to join the legion of frutrippers Speaking of CDNow, make sure that if you order stuff from CDNow or Amazon.com or a couple other places that are linked up through FDC, go through FDC to do it. If you check out the Merchandise page on FDC (which is at http://www.fruvous.com/merchan.html) there are some links to online stores and if you use those links to get the place and buy stuff, the Fruhead with the Unique Ass (tm) and heppest website will get a little something in return. This is a great way to thank Chris for keeping up a really great web site (because we all don't have snare drums used to record Bargainville lying around our houses to give out now, do we?) and you get what you order too. Highly recommended! - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:14:24 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Lori and Steve's Big TO Adventure (part 2) Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > Once the speakers took the podium the room got pretty quiet. > Quite informative and inclusive of the fanbase in marketing strategy > ... although Steve and I were feeling a bit put-out for our Brit friends > when one of the BLR people pretty much dismissed that market. > It wasn't quite clear whether this is Fruvous' doing or BLR's -- can I > say I have my suspicions though? That wasn't Kevin from BLRC that said that. That was Jack Ross. And, from the way he said it, I got the feeling they talk about this stuff a lot and even though they'd like to do it, they couldn't make it work right now, you know? Jack more or less said that they've decided that investments overseas would be hard to turn to profit because it is expensive to get there, tour, and get back. He dodged the why don't you distribute albums over there by recommending CDNow and such. I would guess that if they want to hit an overseas market, they want to do it right. If they release over there, they'd want to tour to back it up, you know? > The show: like I said, it was a very relaxed atmosphere. I had > never seen Tory Cassis before, and ... well , I'd like to see a > full-length set! Good voice, good bass, and a decent stage > presence. I was bummed he had to take off so early to go do > another gig -- I was hoping he'd jam with Fruvous. Good bass? Was I imagining too loudly again? - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:08:19 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: Re: Some random and childish abuse To _H_eather: << Heather "TMBG was my first musical obsession" Moore >> mine too! viva linnell and flansburgh *=-deb "ditto!" groden-=* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:11:16 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: Re: Mindy reads the quotes- halloween my love ms. fruchild: << (i had the biggest crush on that darn cartoon fox!) fruchild, " I AM the band" Murray 2/6/99 >> DIDN'T EVERYONE??...HIM AND MIGHTY MOUSE WERE MY FIRST 2 CRUSHES! - -DEB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:17:30 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: Re: Some random and childish abuse ARBIE SAID: << That song was part of the best dance scene in Dirty Dancing. I forget the names of the singers. *Somebody* and Sylvia I think. Yeah it went: "Sylvia?" "Yes (David, Fred, or something)" "How do you call your lover boy?" "Baaaby" "And what if he doesn't come?" "I say Bay-ay-by" "And what if he Still doesn't come?" "then I say, Baby ooOOooh baby, etc" *sigh* Jennifer Grey>> ok it goes down like this...."sylvia?" "yes mickey?" "how do you call your lover boy?" "oh lover boy..." "and if he doesnt answer?" "COME HERE LOVER BOY!" " and if he STILL doesnt answer?" "i simply say...baby ohhhh baby my sweet baby your the one" bow bow bow BOW bowbowbowbow....".......yep! it's official, DEB HAS *NO* LIFE!...but she knows her movies:) *=-deb "who else misses my 2 dads and the hogan family??" groden-=* ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 1999 16:41:59 GMT From: remcoat@aol.com (REMcoat) Subject: Re: Legend >Can't say I have a crush on Bill, yay! more for me. heh heh >The movie, by all >measurable standards, really stinks, you really think so? it's my favourite. i think it's beautiful. no stinkiness there... love, mandy the 80's girl... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ j.a. m.s. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 1999 16:24:45 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Some random and childish abuse Ah, yes, you all do have some mighty interesting collections of CDs. But are any of you the "proud" owners of the "Jingle Cows" Chistmas Collection?? I didn't think so... most hilarious and yet completely disturbing recording *ever*. Although the Royal Philharmonic rendition of ABBA sounds... ummm... neat, too! :) :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 10:48:11 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Tory Cassis and DeGrassi Junior High? Gruneberg Veronica J wrote: > > :) Veronica (hmmm, I wonder if "Zit Remedy" ever released a CD... :) > Okay, I wasn't going to sing it, but I can't... stop... now... "Everybody wants something They'll never give up Everybody wants something That'll take your money... They never give up!" Now there's a song I'd like to see Fruvous cover. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 1999 16:21:05 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Tory Cassis and DeGrassi Junior High? Ok, Ok, OK, please, for the love of toast, stop - you're making my sides hurt!!! :) Good thing no one's home right now, or I might have to explain why I'm laughing so hard. As for the Degrassi bit... I have no idea. But thanks for bringing back all the memories.. Spike, Wheels, Joey Jeremiah... oh yeah, quality programing. :) Veronica (hmmm, I wonder if "Zit Remedy" ever released a CD... :) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 1999 16:14:14 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: yummy beavertails... was Honorary Candians Well, I guess that would make the (slightly appalling) Mickey Mountie keychain I have pretty much a collector's item, eh? Actually, I'm really glad that Disney isn't in charge of the Mountie image anymore... there was something more than a little disturbing about the whole idea. :) Veronica (who was very excited to see her first, real-live-in-the-red- serge Mountie this fall at the SkyDome for the Vanier Cup. Only RCMP I'd ever seen before was my best friend's dad, but he's plainclothes, so it wasn't quite as thrilling) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:35:41 -0500 From: Thomas Fazzio Subject: Darwin Criminal I just saw this article in the Syracuse Newspapers (http://www.syracuse.com) and felt that those here with a sense of humour (gee, imagine *that* one) would get a kick out of it. - ----- Police: Deal too good to ignore A man is accused of burglary after he stops an unmarked police car, officials say. By Peter Ortiz This time, police say, the burglar came looking for them. Syracuse detectives Mark Abraham and John Savage were patrolling the city's west side Tuesday night in an unmarked car when a man yelled for them to stop. The man walked up to the detectives and offered to sell them a stereo speaker, amplifier and microphones for $30, police said. "We asked him if it was his stuff, and he said yes," Savage said. "And then we asked him if the property was stolen, and he said no, that he would not play us like that." According to police, the detectives' suspicions grew when the man said the equipment was at his house on Tallman Street, but he could not remember his address. Then, police said, it was the man who grew suspicious when he heard the detective's radio and asked if they were the police. "We told him we were taxi dispatchers," Abraham said. Police gave the following account of what happened then: The detectives told the man to meet them outside Ephesus Tabernacle Church at 614 Tallman St. Once they got there, the man told them to drive to the church's parking lot in the back and to turn off their headlights. "That increased our suspicions," Savage said. "We obviously were not pulling into an apartment or house." They watched as the man went behind some brush and came out with a speaker. He then went back and came out with the amplifier and microphones. Two other detectives arrived and arrested the man. The officers followed footprints in the snow that led to an open door in the back of the church. Inside they discovered equipment missing from the altar area and called the pastor, who confirmed the stolen items belonged to the church. John M. Floyd, 35, of 308 Glenwood Ave. was charged with felony counts of burglary and criminal possession of stolen property. - ----- well, how is THAT for a stupid criminal? later, tom. Thomas Fazzio Operations & Personnel Manager WCKN TV-30 fazziote@clarkson.edu http://www.clarkson.edu/~fazziote ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #227 ********************************************