From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #212 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, March 1 1999 Volume 03 : Number 212 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: FruCon article, and my explanation. [Ellen ] Re: Honorary Canadians [Ben Ostrowsky ] Re: That budgie fish postcard [nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole t] Re: Sad Today [nafio@my-dejanews.com] Re: That budgie fish postcard [wbsmiles@aol.com (Wbsmiles)] Re: about the flyers and curling [jsmooth69@aol.com (JSmooth69)] Re: Jersey [wbsmiles@aol.com (Wbsmiles)] Re: Honorary Canadians [nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wond] Re: Honorary Canadians ["KatieWow" ] Re: about the flyers and curling ["KatieWow" ] Re: Honourary Canadians [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] Follow the Road lyrics at FDC [Chad Maloney ] Re: way to go Jeffy [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: about the flyers and curling [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queens] Re: That budgie fish postcard [SkyStar117@aol.com] Re: My thoughts on Anna's article and the Fruvous Community [Ellen ] Re: My thoughts on Anna's article and the Fruvous Community [SkyStar117@a] Re: Honourary Canadians [Josh Drury ] Re: Honorary Canadians [Josh Drury ] Re: Honorary Canadians [Josh Drury ] Re: Honorary Candians [Josh Drury ] why can't we all just freakin' get along??? [SkyStar117@aol.com] reposting of memories nonsense ["George E. Nowik" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:56:44 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: FruCon article, and my explanation. In article <7be7oc$fr2$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, cricket5@hotmail.com wrote: > PS > Kudos, Chris O'Malley, your answers in that article were excellent. and the same to you, mary; i agree with pretty much everything you said. i like roadtripping to see bands i like; who really needs any more excuse than the combination of party/travel/live music? i doubt i'd ever make a trip to TO just for a "Con," but for the three shows, and to explore a new city, i'd go. why not? peace, ellen (just a 'head by nature; i don't specify which variety [1]) [1] occasionally even "bonehead" or "shithead" ********************************************************************* The future's here, we are it, we are on our own... ********************************************************************* - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:58:24 -0500 From: Ben Ostrowsky Subject: Re: Honorary Canadians > good kind, not like the infamous Quebec referendums - what is the plural > of that word anyway?) Referenda. Do I get a Carta Honoraria Linguae Latinae? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:48:20 -0500 From: Ben Ostrowsky Subject: Re: Honorary Canadians > Oh, and the accent on out... I don't really think it's either "aboat" > or "aboot". It's more like a cross between the two. But then, I can't > really hear it myself... unless I really exaggerate the words. I'm a Miamian, but I did take a few phonology classes... It sounds to me as if the US pronunciation of "ou" begins with a low front unrounded vowel (as in "at"), and the Canadian pronunciation begins with a middle center unrounded vowel ("oh" with relaxed lips). They both sound like they end with a glide to "w". Am I crazy? (note: "yes" is quite possible) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:55:13 GMT From: nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: That budgie fish postcard On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 00:04:52 -0700, someone who looked like katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) whispered: >In article <36da356b.12377145@news.inreach.com>, >nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org says... >> Day by day, I haunt my mailbox, hoping for a budgie fish postcard to >> add to my Fruvous wall display. Am I the only person left who never >> got one? > >I never got one either - I asked Jude about it at Lee's, and she told me >that they were only mailed out to a limited area. Darn it. Oho, that would explain it. I was thinking that very thought, actually, but I discarded the theory when I remembered the Summer '97 postcard (which I still have) that got sent to me even though it listed no dates for anywhere near California. Ok, that makes more sense. I can accept it now, and move on. - --nicole twn *** "As the bullet leaves the gun, the moon bows to the sun; what has died has just begun--it's the same for everyone."--The Paperboys Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is INCORRECT! Think of it as an intelligence test. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:34:59 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Sad Today Richard wrote: > Jon Knight sandpapered a raw nerve with the following comments: > > > Except for those of us on the eastern side of the Atlantic who can't > > get FruMaterial for love nor money (at least if they, like me, don't > > possess a credit card and thus can't take advantage of things like > > Amazon.com). We'll be getting the new CD (along with all the others) > > just slightly after Hell freezes over I'm lead to believe. > > However I'm getting increasingly frustrated by the unavailability of any > of the CDs here. Its not that we can't get the CDs here, but they're so > rare that it makes it completely impossible to Fru-assimilate anyone. Wish for everyone's sake that Jude could just airmail you a box to sell to converts, Richard. (Does Jon's complaining make him an official convert?) I was playing around on gemm.com the other day and thought of you when I found that Action Records (http://www.action-records.co.uk) claims to have Bargainville, and Wood in stock. Perhaps you could point your compatriots there? (Or through gemm.com - I found the Action Records site a bit unhelpful) > I suspect that there'll be plenty > of people wandering around music shops looking for BNL-a-like bands > right now. All those potential Fruvous recruits going to waste. Shame. I *know* you meant this in a "a lot of people who haven't heard a lot of Fruvous music think they sound like BNL" way. ;) Fiona "...so our cash for dave's drink couldn't have been amortized...unless he's considering dave's drink an asset...and boy would *that* be a temporary asset ;>" - Drea Feb 27 1999 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 1999 19:05:17 GMT From: wbsmiles@aol.com (Wbsmiles) Subject: Re: That budgie fish postcard > >Nope, I didn't get one either. :-( >Which areas were they mailed to? > >Christine. >--Chrissy_K on irc I'm in DC and have mine posted on my fridge, currently being help up by the magnetic poetry words of music, dance, laugh, fish, travel and car. A nice sum of up on my trip to Toronto, :o) Smiles, Wendy :o) ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 1999 19:16:21 GMT From: jsmooth69@aol.com (JSmooth69) Subject: Re: about the flyers and curling <> heh, then we prolly shouldn't mention them being whupped by the Sabres in the playoffs. Jason-Sabre Fan forever!! "Moses I know. I know you've seen fire, but you've never seen fire until you've seen Pele blow." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 1999 19:09:22 GMT From: wbsmiles@aol.com (Wbsmiles) Subject: Re: Jersey > >> you're paying 89 cents for regular? i paid 77 :). and that wasn't even at >> one of those infernal wawas. >> don't buy gas at wawa! >> ~~kate > > >Wow!!!!! > >And I thought VERMONT was low..... we're paying 95 cents a gallon! >(And that's the lowest I've seen since highschool!) > >nate Northern Virginia is 89 cents a gallon or so these days, Wendy, who must go get her car inspected before she gets a ticket... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 19:14:08 GMT From: nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: Honorary Canadians On 28 Feb 1999 23:40:27 GMT, someone who looked like Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> whispered: >good kind, not like the infamous Quebec referendums - what is the plural >of that word anyway?) Medium -> media, so Referendum -> referenda. Unfortunately, the same logic gives you Drum -> dra, so you may wish to consult someone with an actual clue. :) - --nicole the "one seraph, two seraphim; so one photograph, two photographim?" wonder nerd and honourary canadian *** "As the bullet leaves the gun, the moon bows to the sun; what has died has just begun--it's the same for everyone."--The Paperboys Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is INCORRECT! Think of it as an intelligence test. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:38:06 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Honorary Canadians actually, according to latin standards plural of referendum = referenda which sounds and looks okay. ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:39:50 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: about the flyers and curling merely a minor setback. besides, a perfect machine would be distrusted. ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 1999 19:23:36 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Honourary Canadians True, but this is not the Fungi of which I am thinking. Tbis one's a Nova Scotia / other Maritime provinces thing... :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:20:36 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Follow the Road lyrics at FDC I don't make it practice to announce Chris O'Malley's hard work and dilligence, but the lyrics for Follow the Road were added to FDC at: http://www.fruvous.com/lyr-set3.html#follow I only point this out because Follow the Road is one of the most touching songs I've ever heard at a Fruvous show and the lyrics are really really incredible. So go check them out and read them, m'kay? Thanks. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:43:45 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: That budgie fish postcard hmph. this geographical thing doesn't explain my lack of card. i split my time between baltimore and southern new jersey; both addresses are on the list, and people from both areas have gotten cards. argh. oh well. perhaps it's hiding in the loyola post office or was confiscated by some curious postal employee who thought the fish was cute. hopefully whoever ended up with it went to a show and was made happier by the experience. that's what it's all about, right? well, now i don't feel so bad :). ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 1999 19:31:32 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: way to go Jeffy So I was watching TV last night with my housemate, and The Fly was on CITY TV (Toronto). (David Cronenberg flick... hmmmm?) The Fly, of course, stars you-know-who. So I'm giggling to myself, partly 'cause of Cronenberg (damn, damn, damn) and partly 'cause of the Jeff Goldblum thread. When my housemate pipes in with "You know, Jeff Goldblum is the sexiest guy for women who like smart, slightly geeky guys" Well, I flipped, and he wasn't quite sure why. :) It was just a little too weird for my liking. I think I'd like him to get out of my head now... :) Veronica (I was normal once, really.... I think it was a Thursday...) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 1999 19:27:23 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: about the flyers and curling Curling the hottest sport on ice??!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, my sides hurt!! :) Seriously, while it's not exactly the world's fastest, hottest or interesting sport, it's still great for those of us who lack coordination in any form. As long as you can somewhat balance on ice, you'll be fine. But be forewarned... you will hurt afterwards. Curling looks innocent, but it uses muscles you didn't even know you had. Ask my dad, who curled all day Saturday, then spent all day Sunday recovering! (But he won the bonspiel, so I guess that helped a little) :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:23:16 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: Re: That budgie fish postcard << Day by day, I haunt my mailbox, hoping for a budgie fish postcard to add to my Fruvous wall display. Am I the only person left who never got one? --nicole >> .....no, i think there's two of us *-=deb=-*, the other HC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:20:50 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: My thoughts on Anna's article and the Fruvous Community In article <7beif1$q07$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Thrawn wrote: i'm responding to phil's post because (1) i think he said a lot of good things, and (2) he and i were apparently experiencing a Mind Meld, since i was just getting ready to post with the subject "my thoughts on anna's article." anna, there's nothing wrong with what you wrote; my only gripe is that you're alternately backpeddling or defending it. you're entitled to your thoughts and feelings; you don't need to back away from them OR justify them because someone else disagrees. stand by your article, girl! ;) for my money, nobody can tell you what kind of fan you're supposed to be. whatever level of frufan you choose to be should be based on one thing and one thing only: what makes you happy. some shows, i'm dancing up a sweat in the front, others i am standing alone in the back, nursing a beer. this is universally me, it has nothing to do with fruvous. some times i am higher-energy than others. i don't give a rat's patootie whether the rest of the crowd thinks i look silly dancing, or geeky standing by myself. and that's as it should be, IMO. no one's ever looked askance at me because i did not bring anything to get autographed or "played some nintendo," but maybe that's because i've never looked around to see what anyone else thought of what i was doing. so the idea that someone else could make you feel inferior at the Con doesn't sit right with me. if there's a secret handshake, then i want no part of the club that demands it. in the words of eleanor roosevelt (boy am i going to cringe if i'm mis- attributing this), "no one can make you feel inferior without your consent." > My peace has been said for now. the deadhead version of this: Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine. peace, ellen ********************************************************************* The future's here, we are it, we are on our own... ********************************************************************* - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 1999 20:02:46 GMT From: elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) Subject: Re: My thoughts on Anna's article and the Fruvous Community : and comments made about them in front of everyone. I've seen battles fought : over who is Moxy Fruvous Fan #1 or Moxy's Biggest Fan. : I know people who : don't feel they can come to : concerts anymore because of what they'll face : from other fans. Frankly, this makes me sick to my stomach. : As was previously stated, we all have one thing : in common: Moxy Fruvous' music. While a vast : majority of us have more than just that in common, it is : quite possible that that is the ONLY thing some of us have in common with : others. Each of us has a special place for the lads in our hearts and our [snip] I agree with some of the points issued by Phil, Anna and others on this topic. I think it is a good topic, one Jian talked about at the convention and others have talked about here. I think that Fruheads tend to immerse themselves in Frudom whether more inwardly or outwardly. I mean, to be a Fruhead you basically lean towards all-things Fruvous and how that is done varies from Fruhead to Fruhead. For instance, the people who ran the convention did a wonderful job of presenting all-things Fruvous and organizing things so that most all people could have the best time possible. I think there were other people who have been great fans, who've seen as many shows as they could see, who've even asked for some autographs from the band in the past, and have greatly respected the band and perhaps called Fruvous their favorite band. But these people might be the type to stand in the back of the audience, or, as I did, was in Toronto Friday-Monday but only chose to go to the Saturday and Sunday shows and chose only to attend the last 1 1/2 hours of the convention. Or maybe they wanted to do other things besides talk about Fruvous for half of the weekend, whatever the case might be. But the I think about it, and I just realized from reading these posts, that this was Fruhead weekend, this was their weekend to see shows 3 days in a row, to have a 7 hour convention on Moxy Fruvous and perhaps they are entitled to this for one weekend out of the year? Maybe some Fruheads wouldn't have been into as others and perhaps a pesonality conflict would occur, but for the most part Fruheads seem to be very good people, very nice and welcoming people and so I think most everything turned out as it should Feb. 19-21. Anyway, that's my observation and opinion. - -Matt - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:00:31 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: FruCon article, and my explanation. In article <7beirk$qaa$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, wahrend@my-dejanews.com wrote: > I find it really odd why someone who has written an unflattering piece about > the fans of Moxy Fruvous would post about it to a newsgroup for the fans, of > the fans, by the fans. Kind of like writing a negative review about the > upcoming album and then sending email to the band saying "hey I've got a > review", "but its really not what I think about the album". Its only going > to incite a negative response. But I guess any news is good news. First off, the Frucon 99 pieces on Inkblots were going to be announced here, regardless of whether I did it myself. Lisa, the other writer, as well as the editors also read the newsgroup, and it was not simply a plug for myself. If I had written this somewhere that nobody would ever read it, I most likely wouldn't have let anyone know. Second, I did not see the piece as unflattering. And actially, the majority of people I have talked to did not find it unflattering. When I wrote it, I fully understood that some people were going to see it that way, which is why I included a lenghty explanation as to how it was never intended to be offensive. > I find it difficult not to read an attack on the fans in this piece. Maybe > I'm not reading it carefully enough or not reading between the lines, but if > I'm trying to find good and I am a fan and I know and empathize with a lot of > people who follow the band, what is the average person going to think? > FruCon is an event for people who are excited about the band and wish to > share that excitement with other people. Its a community thing. Getting > together and singing the gulf war song or attempting to do a cross word > puzzle, attempting to share the poetry of horseshoes with someone that might > not be able to appreciate the music, these are not bad things. To the > outside person, yes, they might be excessive, no more excessive than playing > air guitar to a song, or throwing mac & cheese at a band (and thank goodness > we don't throw stuff at our band) or name your favorite artist here. I'd like to point out that I went to Toronto with a few friends of mine, casual Fruvous listeners, who basically said to me once we got home, "These people are nuts." There is an outside opinion for you, completely unrelated to this article. But did I say all that in the article? No, because I *do not* believe that as truth. I clearly stated that just because *I* don't do some of the things that other fans do, certainly doesn't make it wrong. I also stated clearly that the community aspect, the activities at the convention, etc. were really very cool...if that it what you are into. Unfortunatly for me, in this case, I'm not. I can't help that. I didn't go into reasons why, which perhaps would have illustrated better why it was more of a "me" problem then a "them" problem, because the article was not an opprotunity for me to go into my life story, to detail why I can't relate, to explain why I am shy. If you really want (and I'm fairly sure you *don't*) I could go into all that. But I feel that it's immatierial. > In a small way, the fans do represent the band. In many ways, I think this > is good because I find that there is an overabundance of talented, funny, > happy go lucky, opinionated (at times) and cool people who follow this band > (which from all indications is a reflection of the band as I know them, > although I wouldn't be as presumtious to say that I know them). If it didn't > attract such people I would be content to sit and wait for a concert to come > to me. I agree...do you think I would be on the ng, or the channel, or have gone to Toronto if I thought otherwise? Would I have felt the need to defend myself if I thought otherwise? > So when a fan says that we're a bunch of crazies it's difficult to swallow, >even if it is an opinion piece. Please don't put words in my mouth, I *never* said that. I find it interesting that more Fruheads refer to *themselves* as insane or crazy then outside observers do. > And if people made you feel like you weren't a fan I'm sorry about that, but > you shouldn't judge us based on your reaction to a couple of "fans" opinions. > Very difficult to write an objective piece when you have such a small sample > of the overal fruhead base. This is true, and if I ever endeavor to pursue a similar project in the future, I perhaps ought to add more about the good that I saw. However, that article was not a judgement on anyone, except maybe myself. I purposely addressed my concerns as questions, because it was intended to be viewed as a consideration, not an accusation. Additionally, I didn't say one view was "good" and one was "bad" because in the end, it is a matter of personal opinion. Like you said, everybody has one. > I'd more interested in hearing an article that more accurately reflects your > opinions of the band, fans, etc instead of you trying to explain the one that > is currently out there. But thats just me. I would be interested in such an article myself. This one in particular had to relate to FruCon, so I couldn't really deviate to much from the ideas that particular experience gave me. Honesty is dangerous though, and I'm sure that if I were to write an article which accurately reflected *all* of my opinions, it would be probably be viewed much the same. People are less interested in honesty when it applies to them, I've found. > "wild" Bill I hope that you don't think this is an attack, because it isn't. > Just giving my opinions on your opinion. But opinions are like noses, > everyone has one. Thank you, I appreciate it, really. I don't see it as at attack. - -anna- http://www.eccentrica.org/elements - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:03:25 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: Re: My thoughts on Anna's article and the Fruvous Community phil, quite possibly one of the smartest men in North America: << My peace has been said for now.~ Phil >> rock on phil:) thank you for saying eveerything that i couldn't. *-=deb=-* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:43:33 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Honourary Canadians Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > > > More questions: > define caribou? > Better yet, translate the phrase "drop a caribou". Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:32:49 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Honorary Canadians SkyStar117@aol.com wrote: > > and I currently have more Canadian $$ then US in my wallet... > I currently have more U.S. money in my wallet than Canadian for some reason, but $4 of my Canadian money is in $2 bills... Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:35:06 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Honorary Canadians Nicole the Wonder Nerd wrote: > > > Ooo! I sort of know this one. One is "Nunavut", and I never did > figure out what they're naming the other part. Wasn't "Bob" in the > running at some point? > Bob was actually in second place, but got blown away by the first-place choice, which was... (drum roll) The Northwest Territories! Yeah, I was disappointed too. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:39:53 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Honorary Candians Gruneberg Veronica J wrote: > > Oh, I don't know... it just fits!! :) > But if you really want bonus points, "Time to pick up the pogey, eh?". > Super bonus points if you know what it means! :) Or "There's a sale at > Crappy Tire, eh..." that one's a little easier. I've lived here all my life, yet I never heard the phrase "on pogey" or any derivative of it, before reading a post on this ng earlier. Luckily my Canadian Oxford has the definition, but I'm afraid it's not in the local dialect. Quiz for non-Manitobans: If I "had a nip at my cousin's social", what was I doing, and why was I there? Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:48:35 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: why can't we all just freakin' get along??? << but not the people who saw fit to tell me, "you don't act *this* way...you are not a *real* fan." >> OK JEEZE YOU GUYS! PLEASE JUST GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!! It's like this: FRÜVOUS plays good music! We like good music! They make themselves more accesible then say, The Stones...hey, that's great! ....but what is this "craziness"?? If people choose to get involved in something that they truely believe in and that makes them happy....what's the problem with that?? People can enjoy music on so many different levels and in so many different ways..... So let's give this whole "I AM A BETTER FAN THAN YOU" thing a big freakin' rest already! I find it ugly, snobbish and against all of what music as a whole stands for to have a superior fan hierarchy within our own fan base..... *-=deb=-* ,puttin down the mike and steppin off the soap box ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:13:37 GMT From: "George E. Nowik" Subject: reposting of memories nonsense because norg is a complete and total moron and forgets to change options in his email when he is sending email and sends them out as html (bad norg, no biscuit), he recognizes the error of his ways and posts this message again. oops. sorry (: - --------------- *ahem* MY TURN! so what all do i remember from the convention ... in all honesty, it wasn't the shows during those three nights that i will remember the most, it is things that happened as a result of the people i was with. amazing how that always works out like that, isn't it? a few memories: . the "cool crowd" at stage murray. 1-2-3-HI SOUNDGUY! you all were the greatest showmates. i can't remember all names so i'll leave it at that and you know who you are (and if you felt left out, you can be in it too) . phil, colleen, katherine, marie-claude, vika, et al singing message and gulf-war song. dominant memory of the weekend. i'll never ever ever forget that. . singing message in the parthenon in the royal ontario museum. their music has been almost everywhere now. and that little girl clapping along ... . human dumbek. thanks nate (: . being a carnivore in the lobby and watching the looks on peoples faces when someone said jian was in the building. . bohemian polka in line for a show. . johnny saucep'n in line for a show. . (are you noticing a musical theme here?) . head scratches *siiiiiiiigh* . massage. . swing dancing . showing someone how to rumba (you know who you are). . getting those acoustix cd's. matt you dominate. i'll be nice to the top of your van from now on. . the woman who, upon hearing my sudden discovery that ticketmaster (use your own term here folx) printed me two friday night tickets and a sunday night ticket and not a saturday night ticket, just handed me a saturday night ticket and said she didn't need the extra one and wouldn't let me pay for it. you don't even read ng's or get email but i still thank you. . tackling the foosh. teehee. . pitch pipe. . kinkos paste. . freaking out the card reader. . the sleeping gum chewer. . peh. . having props in real life. . commercials . seeing the most fearsome collection of live recording equipment in the hands of masters. . everyone i met. gads. everyone i met. for the first time, and again, and again and again. heavens to mergatroid. you people are amazing. amazing weekend. it's already a week later. we know what that means. if you're not going through withdrawl, you missed something. special awesome wicked thanks to the organizers (she is not a...) for making this one of the best weekend tea-parties i've ever managed to get my napkin dirty on. *george puts in his vote for the "two day event" .. * thanks for the memories everyone. we'll have to do this again sometime. (soon?) still hoping and praying for lazy boy or kick in the ass... *grin* -= george =- ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #212 ********************************************