From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #185 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, February 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 185 Today's Subjects: ----------------- More FruCon weekend memories [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide] Re: Memories of Toronto, Part 1, Sunday [jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I.] Re: FruCon2 IRC [jon@mrrl.lut.ac.uk (Jon Knight)] Re: Honorary Canadians (was Ohioans, was Smarties) [elrond@fellspt.charm.] Re: Lee's 2/21 [nafio@my-dejanews.com] Re: Lee's 2/21 [drea1@my-dejanews.com] Re: Great sound for your mail program (South Park) [bbwminors@aol.com (BB] Re: February 20 review ["KatieWow" ] Re: Honorary Canadians (was Ohioans, was Smarties) [Joshua Doell Drury ] Among My Souvenirs [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers)] RUMOUR CONTROL (It's not MY weed, Officer!:) ["Phil Schwan" ] Re: Fruvous's Instruments Questions [Chad Maloney --if i lived in a city with magic : >changable lanes and big Xs hanging from wires stretched across the road i : >would get a little weirded in traffic too :). : >~~kate : Visit Wash. DC. They have these in Toronto as well. We were driving around in one of those lanes (it contained a green arrow at the time) but we were wondering what happens if you are in one of those lanes and it suddenly changed to a red X. Would you suddenly have a bunch of cars coming from the other direction ram right into you? - -Matt - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:06:58 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Lee's 2/21 Alan wrote: > I can't remember seeing Today's the Day That We Fight Back on a setlist > in a long time! I remember seeing them play this once, at the Appel > Farms Folk Fest In Elmer, NJ last Spring. A very powerful song. > I wish they would play it more often. My guess is, if you're at a show between now and oh.. July, you've got a fair chance of hearing it. We've got rumours of a spring election here in Ontario and I'm sure that will inspire the Frulads to dust off things like Big Fish and Today's the Day for a couple of setlists. (And bring back Downsizing!) Or at least I *hope* it will. I'm very scared that Harris is gonna get re-elected and I'd like to have _something_ good come out of a provincial election. Fiona "Früvous has this weird mental virus - we have to follow them or we'll die" - me, Windsor Jan 29/99 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:11:33 GMT From: drea1@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Lee's 2/21 > I can't remember seeing Today's the Day That We Fight Back on a setlist > in a long time! I remember seeing them play this once, at the Appel > Farms Folk Fest In Elmer, NJ last Spring. A very powerful song. The only other time I'd heard this song was July 97 in Thunder Bay, and I remember being actually surprised by it, though I probably shouldn't have been. I don't know how many people noticed, but Jian tried to start the "Wall Street calls on Bay Street" part twice after the first verse (only got as far as "Wall Street" both times before he realized what he was doing)...maybe it was only funny to me because I'd won one of the No Mega-CDs at the Con and had been listening to it that morning *g* *croak* Drea (the voiceless, still!) "They all chipped in 4 cents amortized over the year" - Jian talking about one of Dave's b-day shots, 2/19 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 1999 15:36:52 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Great sound for your mail program (South Park) We have created several wonderful "South Park" soundbites for our PC but my favorites are "Howdy Ho" for the log-on and "Awww GEE that's too bad" for when you log off -- both coutesy of my personal fave character on all of TV, Mr. Hankey the Christmas Poo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:30:19 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: February 20 review those kids made my day saturday between helping me decorate my memory page and performing boss with such nail on the head accuracy. my only regret is that i never got to complement their parents on such fine kids :). ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:53:36 -0600 From: Joshua Doell Drury Subject: Re: Honorary Canadians (was Ohioans, was Smarties) P. Gruneberg wrote: > And, apparently, we have an accent on "sorry", too. Yeah, evidently it's supposed to be pronounced "sarry"... I guess there's not supposed to be any "sore" sound in the word. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 1999 15:41:39 GMT From: jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure) Subject: Re: February 21 review Bridget (bnl_gordon@email.msn.com) wrote: : Then we get a long banjo jam (with Susan) that starts You Shook Me All : Night Long and somehow : ends up It's A Small World. BANJO OVERLOAD Not that it's bad : thing... Not that I'd want to pick apart your wonderful reviews, but in my mind, it's not possible to have banjo overload. As a matter of fact maybe one show, Fruvous can do an all banjo min-set: Organ Grinder Michigan Militia You Shook Me All Night Long Banjo Medley Misplaced Sad Today Today's the Day (if it is supposed to have banjo in it) Earthquakes Present Tense Tureen Johnny Saucep'n j! - -- Applying computer technology is simply finding the right wrench to pound in the correct screw. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:36:52 +0000 From: Richard Butterworth Subject: Re: FruCon2 IRC Jon Knight had the following firghtening thought: > So holding Frucon III in Richard's > kitchen would be fine as long as only four people were planning on > attending[1]. Jon dear, you doesn't realise that we're talking about Americans here, who don't measure their personal space in multiples of Cchads like we do. I reckon we could squeeze at least ten in. Eleven if we open the fridge door. Tinkerty tonk Richard - ----------------------------------------- Salt fare North Sea weird stare further than the eye can see he had a head like a toy shop --`Some old salty'. Trad English song. - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:23:37 -0500 From: "^kat^" Subject: Re: Dave's Movies? Where? jherrick@mail.smith.edu wrote : > Before FruCon, I didn't know that Dave had tried out an acting career. Now >that I know that he was in "Eddie and the Cruisers II," "Chasing Rainbows," >and "Blue Line" (none of which I've seen), I'm extremely curious about them. yes, & don't forget--as some kind soul posted a couple days ago--that dave's appearance on Friday the 13th (the series) is going to be on the SciFi channel *TONIGHT* at 10 pm, or 2 am (if you miss the earlier time slot). i, for one, am excited... btw, thanks muchly for those of you who have posted msgs already 'bout frucon for those of us who couldn't make it. *grin* i'm still hoping to get more details on the 'con itself, like what the speeches were about, what the prizes were (& who won?), etc... hinthint... ^kat^ "that kind of thing made me crazy" http://fly.to/the.midway.after.dark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:56:22 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Among My Souvenirs I'm sure I'm not the only FrüCon attendee who spent *way* too much money on gifts, souvenirs and assorted stuff in the Lads' fair city this weekend. The coolest souvenir by far, though, was one I'd been prepared to buy but ended up acquiring free of charge. And I *dare* anyone to try to come up with a cooler, stranger, more odd and special memento than this. Before I continue, let me assure you all that I DID NOT STEAL this item. I asked politely for it, and it was given freely. I'd just sort of had a feeling that I would encounter one of these things on this trip; I'm not sure why. They're not exclusively a Canadian product - European actually, and I've seen 'em in the States; they're just extremely rare. By Sunday I still hadn't seen one, and I'd pretty much given up hope. And then on Sunday evening, at the end of an adventurous afternoon running many errands to promote our oh-so-hip and oh-so-not-yet-lucrative International Business Venture, Doug and I ended up back near Lee's with some time to kill before the show. We didn't want to wait around in the cold, we were hungry, and I refused to eat at the Italian "paninni" [sic] place because their sign was misspelled. So we decided on the Thai restaurant across the street. No sooner had we sat down than Lori and Steve walked in, so they joined us for dinner. After dinner Lori made a visit to the restroom, and I decided it wouldn't be a bad idea to do the same. When I walked in she said, "Katrin, look in the stall! You will just die!" I looked - nothing out of the ordinary. So then I looked in the *other* stall. And there it was. The object of my quest, my holy grail, hanging on the wall, not even in use. A huge circular white-painted metal industrial- roll-size toilet paper dispenser, bearing the name KATRIN in big red letters. I had to make it mine. I came bounding up the stairs (what is it with all the bathrooms in the basements in that town?) to tell the guys, fetch my camera and beg the restaurant staff to give it to me. The waiter informed me that he wasn't authorized to do such a thing; I'd have to come back at closing time when the manager was around. My heart sank. Closing time? That's during the show! But this was my chance of a lifetime, the perfect ending to a perfect trip. As luck would have it, their closing time fell in the middle of Sarah Slean's set (take that as you will). I ran down the street to the restaurant, found the manager and awkwardly explained to him what I wanted, and why, and that I was willing to pay money for it if necessary. I took him into the women's bathroom to show him the fixture. Alas, it was locked onto the wall, and he had no key. For a moment I entertained the thought of vandalism, but he said, "Hold on; I may have another in the storeroom." He emerged from the storeroom with an identical dispenser, a little grimy but fully intact. He refused to take my money, and even gave me a plastic bag to carry it in. Giddy with success I ran back to Lee's, to find Mike Ford standing in the entryway engrossed in a conversation with Doug Levy about Nikola Tesla. I paused for a few minutes, wondering if I should pester Mike for an autograph then and there, but decided to wait until after the show (and after I'd cleaned the thing off a bit). This proved to be a decision I would later regret. My fellow fans were suitably impressed with my find (at least once I explained it to them), and I got almost all the entertainers and their cohorts to sign the dispenser. Susan Werner wrote "For a good time, call..." She said she just made up the New Jersey phone number she wrote - - maybe someday I'll get the guts to call it and see who's there. Tobey gave me a cryptic message. Actually it's only cryptic 'cause I can't quite make out his handwriting. I mentioned within earshot of Murray that I seemed to be inadvertently trying for the distinction of the band's weirdest fan (at least in terms of the stuff I end up bringing to shows). He autographed it, "You win, weirdo." Dave wrote a very sweet note thanking me for the dolls and gave me a big hug. I am totally a Dave's People now. I also got nice signatures and notes from Jian of course, and Cal and Jude and Sarah Slean. The only downside of the evening was when we saw Mike bolting out the backstage door without signing any autographs at all. Now, I realize he probably just wanted to get home after work; can't fault him for that. Several people yelled his name and tried to stop him for me (thanks anyway, you guys!) - I even ran out the back door and into the parking lot to look for him, but to no avail. So the "KATRIN Gigantbox 30" sits here in my home, beautifully decorated but still incomplete and budgie- less until I can drag it to another show. Sigh. k@ Really trying to come up with some kind of flattering connotation for the word "Gigantbox". Failing so far. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:00:16 GMT From: "Phil Schwan" Subject: RUMOUR CONTROL (It's not MY weed, Officer!:) Ok, so by now I would guess a fair number of you heard something about the fun my friends and I had at the border on the way up Friday, but I'll post the whole story so you get the facts straight. *WARNING - This is really long and may change the way you think about me:)* First of all, we left an hour later than I planned. Normally I wouldn't care because we had plenty of time to get there before the concert, but I had a number of people meeting me at the hotel at around 4, and I like to be punctual. So, we fly up good ole I-75 to Detroit and attempt to cross the Ambassador Bridge. We stopped at the Duty Free Store to get "supplies" for the weekend, and held onto the receipts so we could claim them on the way through. So Tollbooth Millie, the feminine border guard, starts asking all sorts of questions, looks over all our IDs, and apparently decides we're a suspicious looking lot. She send us to the Customs area and send the car behind us because they said they were with us (BTW, it was myself/Brad/Justin in my car, Lynne/Neil/Matt in the other). So the customs officers put their gloves on, grab their flashlights, and ask us all to get out of the car, move to the front of the car, and keep our hands out of our pockets. They start searching the car and ask me to open the trunk, which I happily do with a screwdriver (my car isn't exactly new:). They go through EVERYTHING...have me take my guitar out of the case. They left no cushion unturned. Meanwhile, they've done a quick search of Lynne's car, and they're now waiting at the exit for us. The male officer takes this little box looking thing and shows it to the female officer. I'm thinking (for some strange reason) that it's an indicator that shows my emissions don't meet certain requirements or something stupid like that. Let me preface this next part by saying that I just got this car recently. My father in law is an auto mechanic and he bought it cheap off of someone and fixed it up for me. Well, all of the sudden, he tells us to follow the lady into the building next to the lot. By this time I'm starting to freak. They take us into this waiting area and tell us to sit with our hands on our legs. They start reading to us what I assume is the Canadian version of our Miranda rights. He then pulls out the box-looking thing, which I now realize is the ashtray from the back seat, and shows me the inside. He asks me if I know what's in there. Now, if he asked me under different circumstances, I would have said, "Sure, I know what they are, but they aren't mine." I was experiencing mental shutdown though, so I bluffed and said I didn't. "These are marijuana stems." I can only imagine the look on my face and those of my friends at this point. He continued to ask us questions...asking each of us in turn if we used marijuana. I was the only one who answered other than NO. I told him a long time ago. When asked how long is a long time ago, I replied 2 years...which was 100% true. At this point, I would have told him my complete schedule of any sexual activity and how often I ate meatloaf. I was scared sh*tless because I was responsible for all these people. The officers then take us all into separate rooms and have us empty our pockets. We then had to put our hands up on the wall and spread our legs while they searched us....THOROUGHLY. A quote from Rush Hour comes to mind..."Next time be polite to my nuts!" Anyway, after searching all and finding nothing, they decide to let us go. The male officer talks to me on the way out and says that he found stems and seeds in the seats and all over the car, and that I should get the car cleaned out as soon as possible. Well, NO SH*T!! Once we finally got through, we drove like our ass was on fire to get out of Windsor, most of us smoking like fiends because our adrenaline was still flowing like the Nile. A certain member of the crew later admitted that he had experienced a little boo time not but 12 hours before, and that he was very happy he didn't have to pee in a cup:) He also rolls his own cigarettes and was happy to discover he had taken his wrapping papers out of his wallet two days before. Was that the end of our adventure? Hell, no...Lynne got a flat out on 401 a thousand miles from nowhere. I changed it for her and followed her to a Canadian Tire, where she got a new tire and had it put on. By the time we got to the Ramada, it was 7:30. We checked in, took a few cabs to the venue, skipped the opening act and went to JJ's because we hadn't eaten yet, and arrived just in time for Moxy to play. I was one incredibly stressed out man by that point, but a great set and a fair amount of Jack Daniels cured me of that:) But I'll talk about all that in another post...:) Sorry it was so long. Thank you if you've read down this far. - -Phil (Thrawn/Frumanchu) Schwan Oh yeah...on the way back, the US border guard asked if we were all American. We said yes. He said see ya!:) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 1999 17:15:53 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: RUMOUR CONTROL (It's not MY weed, Officer!:) I thoroughly enjoyed your story and read it with great empathy since, though it was nearly 20 years ago, I had an almost identical experience at the border (I even think it may have been the same guards). The difference here was that we had our not-so-excellent adventure on the way back into the US (I guess we looked "suspicious" to Officer Smokey Bandit because we were "three caucasian females and an African-American male" -- me, my roomie, her boyfriend and her sister apparently looked to him like "Big Mark and his harem"). I mean, there was this pickup truck in front of us filled with rednecks and beer bottles and THEY didn't get pulled over! I won't go into too many details except to say that they did indeed find very small amounts of Boo-ish materials and -- get this -- gave me a summons for "Failure to declare." A $100 fine. I still have the citation. I will never forget the three cops crawling all over my little red Chevy (aka Spunky) and coming out like they'd found the Hope Diamond and Hoffa's body rolled into one, one holding a tiny roach, saying "Look what I found," and the other saying "Yeah, and the car is covered with seeds!" (the apparent result of, on the ride up, my roomie cleaning it out in the front seat, throwing the chaff out the window and it blowing right back into the back window). I guess I can't run for office now, LOL The unelectable Queen Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:22:15 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Underagers and Tory LimeZinger wrote: > > anyone have any info on his album? if one exists yet? :) Back and catching up am I. Tory mentioned (to much applause) that his album "Trophy" will be out in Canada soon. He then went on to mention that there is no US release, but he balked at that, probably thinking it would sound rather pessimistic, and said that it won't be released in the US yet. Sorry I don't remember if he actually put a time frame on a release... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:52:20 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Fruvous's Instruments Questions PJ the Rat wrote: > > Does anyone have details about the equipment the Fruguys use onstage? I posted > this question and learned Dave & Mike use Simon & Patrick acoustics and a > Gibson LP electric. Does anyone have any more info on any of Fruvous's gear? > My band is striving for a Fru-like sound... I'll definitely go with Arbie's answer on this one. The equiptment used has very little to do with the sound. The electric used to be a crappy Charvel and still made enough noise to translate Mike into music. What more can I say? Bass-wise, Murray has a mid-80's Spector that has a great sweet tone (and intermittent battery problems *smile*). That goes into a fuzz box that is used on Michigan Militia. His amp is a Nemesis combo which is a decent size/sound compromise. It looks like a 2x10 from the outside. For precise info on Murray's rig, checkout the interview by Matt Laurence of Murray that appeared in Bass Player magazine. The article (along with many other articles) is on FDC at http://www.fruvous.com/news.html or more precisely for the BP article: http://www.fruvous.com/news/970329nw.html (Q&A version) http://www.fruvous.com/news/bassplay.html (pre-published version) http://www.fruvous.com/news/9802xxnw.html (published version) As for the other stuff, there is the polish keyboard, though Nicole, the proper tool for the hand-modification for your Roland keyboard would be electrical tape, though gaffers tape would probably work too. Duck tape doesn't cut it sometimes *grin* - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:02:01 GMT From: "Phil Schwan" Subject: You can't HANDLE the details!!! - My weekend in review I'll warn you now...this is an unorganized post and it's kinda lengthy... I'm not going to do the song-by-song critique of the concert...I haven't been to enough concerts lately to compare individual performances of each song, and there are enough reviews out there already. I will say that the Saturday night performance ties with the CWRU show as my favorite. That show was the first time in a long LONG time I actually closed my eyes and truly felt the music flow right through me. It was an undescribable feeling. I was completely blown away also by Susan Werner. I've been a big fan of Phil Keaggy all my life (hell, I was named after the guy...my dad's good friends with him), and she's the first person I've seen to truly rival him in what she can do with that guitar. Granted, I have limited exposure, but I know good guitar playing when I see it. Jian, Mike, Dave, and Murray...thank you for such a wonderful experience! On to the rest of the weekend: My favorite quote of the weekend: "Well, if I'da known they were gonna be shootin' the shit, I'da filled the thing up!" -A rude Esso attendant who got a little pissy when Lynne decided she DID want gas after I was already done and we were about to leave. My favorite moment of the weekend: Laying on the bed on Saturday night in a room full of extremely intoxicated Fruheads with two very sweet female friends of mine, one of whom I had just met, the other of whom I shared the same joy last year. I love you both...really, you guys totally made my weekend!:) But where was Caitlin.....? :) My second favorite moment of the weekend: The reaction I got from Jian when I handed him a copy of the GWS score. Thanks, man, for appreciating the work that went into that!:) Biggest missed opportunity of weekend: When Tobey stopped by our room Friday night and I had just fallen asleep. Next time, man! I'll have a bottle with your name on it!! Best food of weekend: Shepherd's Pie at JJMugg's. MMMMMMMMmmmmmmm........ Washes down well with a Gin & Tonic too:) Biggest disappointment of weekend: Not enough singalong action at the Con. But there was so much going on, it didn't really matter:) Moment I'm most glad I missed: Brad, Neil, and friends getting stuck in Ramada elevator for 30 minutes until the fire department came to rescue them. I was afraid that this weekend would be disappointing in comparison to last year...that I would inescapably end up making a statement like "FruCon(X) was better than FruCon(X +/- 1)." But I realized by Sunday that they were two completely different experiences, both of which I can label as the best time I've ever had (second only to my wedding). To all of those who travelled with me, stayed in our rooms, ate with us, drank with us, enjoyed the concert with us, sang with us, or shared any other part of the weekend with us...thank you so very much for making it so enjoyable. You are all people of good character and I salute you. Until I think of more, Phil Schwan PS - Mindy, write me! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #185 ********************************************