From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #138 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, February 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 138 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: My Favorite Moxy Story (by popular demand) [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] Re: DC 9:30 Setlist with notes [jon@mrrl.lut.ac.uk (Jon Knight)] Re: DC 9:30 Setlist with notes [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] Re: Tin Angel? [kevin@sahara.research-inc.com ()] Re: capital punishment ["KatieWow" ] Re: DC 9:30/rude 930 staff [Kate Bunting ] Re: DC 9:30 Setlist with notes ["KatieWow" ] Re: Tin Angel? ["Dede Crough" ] Fruvous Music in Penn's Computer Store [affannat@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Kel] Re: DC 9:30/rude 930 staff [Chad Maloney ] Can't help myself... [Thrawn ] Re: DC 9:30/rude 930 staff [aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992)] Falcon Ridge Ticket Info ["KatieWow" ] The Cult of American Smarties [koogle@clark.net] Re: To All Those That Love Mad Libs [Mindy J Munson ] re: sorry to prolong to topic, but... [Taryn Chase ] DC Review . . . ASS long ["KatieWow" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:14:24 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: My Favorite Moxy Story (by popular demand) On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:24:27 -0800, driedmonkey@zdnetmail.com (Stiff, Dried, Creaking Monkey) wrote: All I can say is, you da man! Great stories, thanks for sharing them with us! - -- Trace gemini@p3.net *sniff* Target is within sniffing range. Hailing on all frequencies. *woop woop* Visual acquired. Our bogie is at 9:00. Fire when ready. - 1/1 BL dum tek ca tek tek ca tek tek *snort* ARGH *glare* Follow THAT one lads.... - 1/2 BL ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 1999 18:01:52 GMT From: jon@mrrl.lut.ac.uk (Jon Knight) Subject: Re: DC 9:30 Setlist with notes Autumn Patterson (apatte2@gl.umbc.edu) wrote: : As long as we're still talking about Smarties (American) may I just say : that I don't find their tangy and sugaryness to be good at all. Do you mean to tell me that American Smarties don't have chocolate in them? So that American children miss out on one of the delights that we English enjoyed as children (and, truth be told, still do whenever we get the chance) of seeing how long you could make one Smartie last before you were forced to swallow all the yummy chocolate that seeped through the sugar shell? I thought it was bad enough that they introduced the evil blue Smarties over here without finding out that there is the prospect of chocolate free Smarties being imported from the USA. At least Canada sounds like it has the real thing. Then again I'm still waiting for Marathon bars to be given back their real name. Snickers indeed. I haven't been able to bring myself to ask for one in the confectioners since they did that. And they've done something similar to Opal Fruits. Pa, grumble, whinge... - -- Tatty bye, Jim'll (member of the Campaign for Real British Sweetie Names) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:22:32 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: DC 9:30 Setlist with notes On 10 Feb 1999 18:01:52 GMT, jon@mrrl.lut.ac.uk (Jon Knight) wrote: >Autumn Patterson (apatte2@gl.umbc.edu) wrote: >: As long as we're still talking about Smarties (American) may I just say >: that I don't find their tangy and sugaryness to be good at all. > >Do you mean to tell me that American Smarties don't have chocolate in >them? So that American children miss out on one of the delights that >we English enjoyed as children (and, truth be told, still do whenever >we get the chance) of seeing how long you could make one Smartie last >before you were forced to swallow all the yummy chocolate that seeped >through the sugar shell? I thought it was bad enough that they >introduced the evil blue Smarties over here without finding out that >there is the prospect of chocolate free Smarties being imported from >the USA. At least Canada sounds like it has the real thing. Yep, we in America have been deprived of chocolate Smarties. I'd never actually tried chocolate Smarties 'til the DC show when I was lucky enough to be in the group Stage Murray who received some (they were very good btw). American Smarties have been described by some as the solid form of pixie stix, but I see them more as a combination of Sweet Tarts and chalk. Strangely, I like them, but then again, I'm strange to begin with, so that should come as no surprise. - -- Trace gemini@p3.net *sniff* Target is within sniffing range. Hailing on all frequencies. *woop woop* Visual acquired. Our bogie is at 9:00. Fire when ready. - 1/1 BL dum tek ca tek tek ca tek tek *snort* ARGH *glare* Follow THAT one lads.... - 1/2 BL ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 1999 18:15:00 GMT From: kevin@sahara.research-inc.com () Subject: Re: Tin Angel? On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:11:37 -0500, KatieWow wrote: >has anyone ever been to the tin angel? i can't get a figure on capacity, >but EFO and susan werner are playing there in the coming month, and it seems >like a cool place. >let me know what you think :). the tin angel is a great venue... but VERY VERY small. It probably seats 150 max. Also the stage is about half the size of an average dorm room. I love the place, (and the restaurant underneath it is great) but I doubt we'll ever see a Fruvous show there. Kevin Way ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:14:05 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: capital punishment if i didn't fear starting a whole new OT discussion, i would mention that that's the exact thinking of most pro-life organizations, but i wouldn't want to do that, would i ;)? ~~kate, roman catholic and pro-CHOICE, thank you - -- **************************************************************************** Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu **************************************************************************** nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight - --bruce cockburn, "lovers in a dangerous time" and so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. - --douglas adams, "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" we're splitting into two camps--mike, i'm with you. - --jian ghomeshi, bottom line, 1/1 *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:33:55 -0500 From: Kate Bunting Subject: Re: DC 9:30/rude 930 staff > ever tried stuffing your mouth with (american) smarties and drinking > sprite? Wow. I bet I missed out on a lot of fun in childhood by not thinking of things like this. On a more complainant note, was anyone else off-put by the staff at the 9:30 in DC? I realize that the staff at the Troc was invariably worse, but I was *not* enthused by a couple of the employees of the 9:30-- most notably the fellow with the curly ponytail-- the one who came out and warned us all about having proper ID and no cameras whilst we were waiting in line outside, then rudely jumped all over a Frufan who'd reached for Mike's setlist (then handed it to a teenybopper not two minutes later)? He passed by me while I was waiting (after the show) to speak with Murray, and made a snide comment about "groupies." I was unenthused. Didn't know if anyone else had found this fellow (or any of the others of them) to be underwhelming... - kate ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Katherine E. Bunting sailor@wam.umd.edu "Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?" ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:11:33 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: DC 9:30 Setlist with notes wait a minute . . . they introduced blue M&Ms recently. the plot thickens . . . ~~kate - -- **************************************************************************** Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu **************************************************************************** nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight - --bruce cockburn, "lovers in a dangerous time" and so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. - --douglas adams, "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" we're splitting into two camps--mike, i'm with you. - --jian ghomeshi, bottom line, 1/1 *************************************************************************** Jon Knight wrote in message <79shig$448$2@sun-cc204.lboro.ac.uk>... >Autumn Patterson (apatte2@gl.umbc.edu) wrote: >: As long as we're still talking about Smarties (American) may I just say >: that I don't find their tangy and sugaryness to be good at all. > >Do you mean to tell me that American Smarties don't have chocolate in >them? So that American children miss out on one of the delights that >we English enjoyed as children (and, truth be told, still do whenever >we get the chance) of seeing how long you could make one Smartie last >before you were forced to swallow all the yummy chocolate that seeped >through the sugar shell? I thought it was bad enough that they >introduced the evil blue Smarties over here without finding out that >there is the prospect of chocolate free Smarties being imported from >the USA. At least Canada sounds like it has the real thing. > >Then again I'm still waiting for Marathon bars to be given back their >real name. Snickers indeed. I haven't been able to bring myself to >ask for one in the confectioners since they did that. And they've >done something similar to Opal Fruits. Pa, grumble, whinge... > >-- >Tatty bye, > >Jim'll (member of the Campaign for Real British Sweetie Names) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:55:48 GMT From: "Dede Crough" Subject: Re: Tin Angel? >I doubt we'll ever see a Fruvous show there. Actually, Fruvous played the Tin Angel twice back in the day when few had heard of them: 7/13/94 and 8/2/94. The July show was most memorable as Wednesday was also "Open Mike" night -- all the amateurs played, and then, after a short break, Fruvous. As anyone else in attendance can attest (are you there, Sue?), we were treated to an unforgettable song called "Circus Freak." Several people from XPN were at the August show (including Bruce Warren and David Dye if I remember correctly.) Anyway, Fruvous sadly has outgrown the Tin Angel, which is my favorite venue in Philly. Dede (stopping by the ng briefly, but I had to reply to this one) ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 1999 20:35:40 GMT From: affannat@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Kelly D Affannato) Subject: Fruvous Music in Penn's Computer Store YAY! Some of you may have noticed the tall, blond, fellow who accompanied me to the Troc show Saturday. That, of course, was Chris, and he is no longer a FruVirgin. Even better, however, is that he has grown to love them so much that he's ripped LN onto MP3s and has them playing on all the demo computers at his job at the Penn Computer Connection! I walked in there today and almost passed out when I heard KoS coming from an iMac! Yay! - --->Kelly Silver7 on mirc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:42:32 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: DC 9:30/rude 930 staff Kate Bunting wrote: > On a more complainant note, was anyone else off-put by the staff at the > 9:30 in DC? Actually, no. I had lots of luck with the 9:30 staff. I asked a bartender if it was alright if I stood in the middle of the walkway/lower balcony and he said it was fine and I should get there quick before other people realize it too. He was really nice. And the upper level bartender had water laid out for people and talked to me when I got a drink. We had stayed up on the balcony for awhile after the show. They gladly cleaned around us for awhile and then asked us to go downstairs so they could clean the upstairs. Then downstairs, they gladly cleaned around us and my group left before being kicked out at all. > I realize that the staff at the Troc was invariably worse, > but I was *not* enthused by a couple of the employees of the 9:30-- most > notably the fellow with the curly ponytail-- the one who came out and > warned us all about having proper ID and no cameras whilst we were waiting > in line outside, then rudely jumped all over a Frufan who'd reached for > Mike's setlist (then handed it to a teenybopper not two minutes later)? But I did notice *that* from the balcony. It was probably just a power tripped guy who wanted to show he had control of the stage and no crazy fan was gonna steal something from his stage. But all in all, I had a great time at the 9:30 Club. Sound was wonderful. Comfortable standing up on that balcony. All ages show. Pretty much a great place. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:03:42 GMT From: Thrawn Subject: Can't help myself... Ummm...ok, I hate to bring off-topic politics in on a subject everyone's sick of, but there's an article at http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/10/harkin.transcript/ that's worth reading if you're following the Impeachment Hearings at all. Feel free to flame me...my boss won't know:) - -Phil Windows 95: noun: (arch): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.-StiltMan (http://www.teleport.com/~stiltman/stiltman.html) - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 1999 21:16:05 GMT From: aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992) Subject: Re: DC 9:30/rude 930 staff >but I was *not* enthused by a couple of the employees of the 9:30-- most >notably the fellow with the curly ponytail-- the one who came out and >warned us all about having proper ID and no cameras whilst we were waiting >in line outside, Actually they do that at most of their shows...it's a good thing, especially if you're waiting in really cold weather outside, if people have their IDs ready it just goes that much quicker. >then rudely jumped all over a Frufan who'd reached for >Mike's setlist (then handed it to a teenybopper not two minutes later)? I saw _that_ from where I was in the balcony! That was a little excessive (and scary-looking!) I was surprising, but I guess they get a lot of that stuff where people grab stuff off the stage, and he was just trying to prevent it (?). Aleigh Check it out! Check it totally out!! --> http://i.am/not_your_broom "Your feet are freezing in the ice of reason and it's too little much too late"~ Yazbek ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:07:12 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Falcon Ridge Ticket Info hey all! as the summer fast approaches, i know that like me, you're wondering just how budget busting the falcon ridge folk festival is gonna be. allow me to help :). just got an e-mail from anne at falcon ridge central (or wherever she is), with the following info (copied right out o' the e-mail): Ticket prices will be up on our website in early March. Camping tickets will go up $5 so $65 will be the early bird camping price and go up to $80 at the gate, 3 day and one ticket prices will not go up. 3 day tickets start at $50, the early bird price and go to $65 at the gate. there y'are. don't know if camping prices are per person or per tent/group :). ~~kate - -- **************************************************************************** Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu **************************************************************************** nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight - --bruce cockburn, "lovers in a dangerous time" and so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. - --douglas adams, "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" we're splitting into two camps--mike, i'm with you. - --jian ghomeshi, bottom line, 1/1 *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:01:01 GMT From: koogle@clark.net Subject: The Cult of American Smarties In article <36c1ccfc.3436825@news.cyberenet.net>, gemini@p3.net (Trace) wrote: > On 10 Feb 1999 18:01:52 GMT, jon@mrrl.lut.ac.uk (Jon Knight) wrote: > > >Autumn Patterson (apatte2@gl.umbc.edu) wrote: > >: As long as we're still talking about Smarties (American) may I just say > >: that I don't find their tangy and sugaryness to be good at all. > > > >Do you mean to tell me that American Smarties don't have chocolate in > >them? > > Yep, we in America have been deprived of chocolate Smarties. (...) > American Smarties have been described by some as > the solid form of pixie stix, but I see them more as a combination of > Sweet Tarts and chalk. Strangely, I like them, but then again, I'm > strange to begin with, so that should come as no surprise. Hey, I have several friends who purchase American Smarties in 5 lb. bags. We *love* Smarties. If I want chocolate pellets, I go for the mini M&Ms, or the new crispy M&Ms. With both, it's a textural thing. - --Amanda - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:37:25 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Re: To All Those That Love Mad Libs >ok, i got this in e-mail a few days back, & it came out hilariously. >i >wasn't going to share it... but now that heather's posted this, i'm >afraid i >must (fru-content & all... *grin*): > >One sexy summer day at paris you see the most persian creature you >have ever >seen. His name is jian, and every move he makes just turns you on >more and >more. You nudge your best friend eric and say, "Wow, that has to be >the >most wet body I have ever seen." Suddenly he looks in your direction >and >starts walking right towards you!!! He says, "I noticed you staring >at me >from over there. I just had to tell you, that I think you are so >spicy, and >was wondering if you'd like to go to toronto with me and listen to >moxy >fruvous?" With a stupid smile on your face you say, "you know?" and >go with >him. When you finally get to toronto, he moves closer to you, and >gives you >the biggest kiss ever. The two of you are passionately kissing when >you >feel a clock hit you on the back of the head. You open your eyes to >find >out it's all a dream, but there is a note left next to your bed:..." > >and the rest is just cheezy >fwd-this-to-a-million-people-or-you'll-be-chaste-for-the-next-century >stuff. >personally, i think it's worth it for the part about jian being the >"most >persian." ;p so, i wonder: does this make dave the *least* persian >person >i've ever seen...? > >^kat^ >"but if he saw my fantasies >he'd know i am disturbed..."[1] This was mine! lol! i did this before I read yours and look at the similarities! One sultry summer day at Darlington you see the most bousterous creature you have ever seen. Their name is Jian , and every move he makes just turns you on more and more. You nudge your best friend Murray and say, "Wow, that has to be the most sexy body I have ever seen. Suddenly, he looks in your direction and starts walking right towards you!!! he says, "I noticed you staring at me from over there. I just had to tell you, that I think you are so humorus , and was wondering if you'd like to go to TO with me and laugh ?" With a stupid smile on your face you say, " "Bite me!" " and go with them. When you finally get to TO , he moves closer to you, and gives you the biggest kiss ever. The two of you are passionately kissing, when you feel a guitar hit you on the back of the head. You open your eyes to find out it's all a dream, but there is a note left next to your bed. It reads: " Jian is the love you've been waiting your whole life for. he will ask you out in 21 days or less, but only if you send this e-mail to at least 10 people within the next few minutes. The more people you send it to, the sooner they will ask you out, and you both fall in love. Do not take this lightly, because if you simply ignore this, you will have bad luck in love for the next 21 years!" [ 1] Where does that quote come from? Fruchild ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:33:49 GMT From: Tamra Subject: all those rays... k writes: >2nd tangent: Man Ray and Fay Wray are not The Man. They are the dogs that >I can't help thinking of whenever someone brings up the topic of that >grocery store somewhere out east that I've never been to. > >k@ >help, help, I'm bein' repressed > well, Man Ray was an artist and Faye Wray hung out with that early King Kong character ( frucontent: "get that monkey on a big, big chain!") ..and of course the dogs you speak of may be William Wegman's Weinerama's (sorry, i can't spell for crap...) and then of course, there's that whole "Are you Johnny Ray? groove...so basically,... I'm perplexed ...and troubled....what were we talking about??? tamra ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:23:05 GMT From: Taryn Chase Subject: re: sorry to prolong to topic, but... I just have a couple things to add on the capital punishment front (which I'll try to make brief since it's winding down): A.) First I want to say that I think our NG is extremely cool when handling...well, controversy. Thanks again for being amazingly open and tolerant people. B.) With that said, I wanted to respond to jacey7's comments: I'm speaking on a purely personal/emotional level here--not about law-making--but I once heard someone speak on the belief in non-violence, and from that point on I couldn't understand how anyone could be fine with abortion and not with capital punishment. I understand that a woman's life is her own, and fully agree with the point about no one having the right to take another's life, but isn't the life of a child is just as precious (if not more so for being less jaded by living) as that of a prisoner? Like I said, these issues are confusing, but non-violence generally wins with me. Of course, just when I think I've figured it out/made up my mind, economics and government get involved and I begin to feel overwhelmed... C.)Zainab wrote: Has anyone ever read anything by/about Mumia Abu-Jamal? He's been on death row since 1981, I believe, and his research and writings concerning capital punishment are definitely worth looking into. Check out http://www.walrus.com/~resist/mumia/index.html if you're interested in learning more. D.) aleigh wrote re: clockwork orange: Anthony Burgess' work was also influential to me, however, I found that the Kubrick's film was NOT that effective and, unfortunately I think, skewed the public's take on the brilliance of it. I'm not saying it's not worth a peak, but if you haven't read the book first--definitely put off the film until after. But I guess that goes for most films made from books, doesn't it. (Idea for a new thread: Has anyone seen a film they would Rather have seen Before reading the book?) E.) And finally, if you haven't already heard it, get ahold of Ani DiFranco's song "Crime for Crime" and give the lyrics a good listen. Well, okay, I'll just paste 'em here: the big day has come the bell is sounding i run my hands through my hair one last time outside the prison walls the town is gathering people are trading crime for crime everyone needs to see the prisoner they need to make it even easier they see me as a symbol, and not a human being that way they can kill me say it's not murder, it's a metaphor we are killing off our own failure and starting clean standing in the gallows everyone turned my way i hear a voice ask me if I've got any last words to say and i'm looking out over the field of familiar eyes somewhere in a woman's arms a baby cries i think guilt and innocence they are a matter of degree what might be justice to you might not be justice to me i went to far, i'm sorry i guess now i'm going home so let any amongst you cast the first stone now we've got all these complicated machines so no one person ever has to have blood on their hands we've got complex organizations and if everyone just does their job no one person has to understand you might be the wrong colour you might be too poor justice isn't something just anyone can afford you might not pull the trigger you might be out in the car and you might get a lethal injection 'cause we take a metaphor that far the big day has come the bell is sounding i run my hands through my hair one last time outside the prison walls the town has gathered people are trading crime for crime people are trading crime for crime people are still trading crime for crime Just some food for thought. ObligatoryFrucontent: THEY ROCK. FruCon's in 10 days and I'm psyyyyyyyyyyyched-- even if I didn't win that contest and Angie did... Hope to see y'all there, tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:08:21 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: DC Review . . . ASS long hey everyone. i figured i’d take my sweet time writing my first review(s), so here it is, long thought out :). after a late arrival at loyola by my sister, i (along with fellow loyola früheads linda and claire) commandeered her beloved shit plant (i.e., 1985 brown honda accord), pumped my own gas for the first time ever (i’m from new jersey—cut me a break), and put in a quart of oil-—and we were on our way. after an interesting trip through baltimore (thanks for the directions, doug!), we motored down the baltimore-washington expressway toward the fair capital city. the 9:30’s directions aren’t the best, though-—it was completely by chance that the rt. 50 exit we took happened to be new york avenue. with the capital building in view, we proceeded toward the club, parked the car in a free, unmonitored lot, and ran to howard university hospital to use the bathroom (suspiciously familiar—-previous to my last früshow [1/1], i had gone to visit my friend christie’s sister in the hospital; leslie [the patient] was supposed to come with us to the show, but [five-months pregnant, mind you] had gotten hit by a drunk driver and cut out of her car. she and the baby are both fine). we got in line at about 8:20, behind a large group of obviously stoned young adults who talked loudly about the fact that the only song they wanted to hear was “michigan militia,” at which point someone yelled that you could hear the soundcheck through the back door, and that the band was indeed playing “michy.” they got really excited at that point, and began creating their own lyrics for the song, at which time i decided it was a good idea to go get my tickets out of will-call and converse with lisa, wendy, and other assorted ammfers who were standing a bit ahead of me in line. BTW-—i actually did speak to michael of “barney” fame in middle eastern affairs today. he looked a little embarassed :). okay, so the doors opened a bit after that, and i sent claire, linda, and beth to my usual outpost, slightly left of center (not just a political stance anymore :)!!!) and headed to coat check. after a while, jess klein came out. i adored her; kind of a cross between ani difranco and jewel—-but in a way far better than the way in which jewel is like jewel. anyway, i would have appreciated her set significantly more if the entire crowd (including many people directly in front of the stage), had been a little more respectful to her. hey, i was there to see früvous too—-but i came away with a newfound musical like, and i think that many others would have as well--but what can you do. anyway, after another wait, the boys got their introduction, and murray and jian wandered out on stage. my sister (beth, a former früvirgin), asked if there weren’t supposed to be four of them. i responded that i had always thought so; but jian settled into that familiar syncopated dumbek rhythm, and i knew i was in for . . . sahara (extended version) the first time i’ve heard it live. wow. i’ve always loved this one, but it ’s my sister’s favorite (aside, of course, from “king of spain.”) i was really glad she got to hear it in full effect :). laika where did this come from?!?!?! rockin’. great to finally hear it live after the mean tease on my MIT tape. video bargainville another “first-time live” for me. when jian made us do it twice, my sister got a little worried. we were fairly close to the stage, and i had told her on the way about the mocking out i got from jian at my first show, when he heard something that i said to the person standing next to me. she has a really loud voice, and was afraid she had been saying the wrong thing. not to worry-—we met ji’s standards on the second try, and all was well. it’s not hard to tell that these guys take an interest in musical theater—-they have incredible expression when they sing. jian’s faces during this song case in point. horseshoes i like this song more every time i hear it. the seamless trade offs on lead is yet another incredible testament to the guys' vocal talents. thanks to jian, the second “look straight” was all ours, and those in my vicinity were wonderfully on key. YWGTTM they’ve now done this at every show i’ve seen, and i have yet to get sick of it. nice segue by dave concerning the manner in which humans are consuming valuable resources like supergroups. jian and mike were again an agile horn section (vocally and physically). more testament here to the musical theater tendencies—-i can’t get over the coordinated hand gestures ("and when the tourists come in droves") and powerful closing notes. sad girl i didn’t like this song the first two times i heard it, but it’s growing on me. i still don’t think it’s really lyrically as strong as some of the lads ’ other new stuff, but i’m getting into it. splatter, splatter as someone whose father has an ever-growing collection of steven segal films, i appreciate this song a great deal (wow—-i’ve just been appreciating mike left and right lately :). it’s got a catchy beat and mike’s voice quality is perfect. get in the car the one beth calls the volkswagen song. i can’t help but agree-—it’s so perfect for a beetle commercial :). this is one of my favorites, so beatles, so fun. one of the better versions i’ve heard, probably the best having been the one at the gazebo in king of prussia last summer. i love my boss well, i’ll take anything a cappella, and i hadn’t heard this one live yet, so it was a treat. jian’s dance moves got a better response in philly, but were just as good here. the bill gates references were a welcome addition. minnie the moocher i know when the hats come out i’m getting one of two things, and i was hoping it would be "boo time," as i’ve heard minnie quite a few times before—but no complaints. the clinton bits were especially poignant, as was mike’s NAFTA reference, and especially the superbowl comments. give me a hockey game any day. too careful this reminds me of another band whose name isn’t coming now because my stereo is pumping out peter gabriel’s “games without frontiers,” which will kill any thought patterns. i like it, but i need more time to get to know it :). michy tons of fun. glad the dudes in front of us got what they wanted. johnny saucep’n that makes it a straight run—-i’ve heard this one at every show i’ve been to. always fun, and i’m glad that i’m not alone in not having the lung capacity for it-—even jian has to take a breath every now and then :). fly one of my favorites. jian wasn’t as into it as i’ve seen him be previously (and would consequently see him the next night), but moving nonetheless. independence day this song reminds me of the same band that too careful does. goddamn you peter gabriel!!! i adore this, however-—and i let murray know so after the show. spidey (lounge version) great twist. i’ve never heard this one a cappella, though, but hope to get the full effect this summer at a folk festival, complete with mike in the audience :). king of spain even the people who didn’t open their mouths or adjust their stance all night went nuts at this one. it’s becoming their “if i had a million dollars”—-but in a good way, since it doesn’t cause mass arguments and injuries . . . usually. green eggs and ham (short version) i hadn’t heard this since baltimore in november (not counting the abridged version on 1/1), so it made me happy. beth was impressed with jian’s statement about dave looking like the lead singer of the new radicals, as she had been under the impression that she was the only one thinking that. great fun. psycho killer this one was amazing. i’ve never seen the guys get so involved in a song, with jian shoving the mic out of the way to go nuts, murray playing the bass like he’d never get to see it again, and dave and mike just kicking ass. fantastic. encores: dancing queen three cheers from beth who knew all the words and was incredibly impressed with herself. that made up for her discomfort when she didn’t know any of the words to . . . drinking song another first for me. i couldn’t take my eyes off the guys, who looked so thoughtful. the song has always had special meaning to me; i’ve lost seven friends in drunk driving accidents (one this past new year’s eve), and it was cathartic. thanks for that, guys :). great moments in früvous banter: the guys implored the people in the balcony to find some martyrs who would agree to be thrown over the rail as a demonstration of their appreciation of the music-—and die so that the band would get some press when the story hit the papers one of the guys (jian?) commented on how beautiful the audience was, which murray followed by expressing how intimidating it was to play before a bunch of people who look like something out of “mad max beyond thunderdome.” he and jian proceeded to play a tease from music apparently from the movie, and a very loud man in the back of the room yelled out a line from the film. jian mentioned that he was afraid that a lot of their audience was comprised of fans of german industrial metal bands who had seen the name moxy früvous and mistaken them for a daachen clone, and therefore felt obligated to play some metal, if not death metal, at every show. dave objected to jian’s call for the man to come on stage and help out with that aspect of the performance (seeing as how he had, in jian’s words, a “really good death metal voice”), saying that he could would have to come up with a far better quote-—perhaps something about mel gibson’s private life, or about tina turner. this devolved quickly into a mel gibson movie quote fest, with the band singing “give me back my son!” and jian relating a story about his experience seeing “ransom” in a movie theater where he and the rest of the audience were generally apathetic toward the film until that line came up--at which time he and the rest of the audience cheered. the jam continued, and jian inserted “you can’t handle the truth,” the jack nicholson line from “a few good men;” he immediately realized his error and perverted it to “you can’t handle my son.” the jam ended thusly. murray at one point noticed a box of canadian smarties by his monitor and postulated why someone had given him something from home when he was going to be there in two days anyway. jian called him ungrateful, and an “i’m ungrateful” jam followed, with murray eating some smarties, throwing others over his shoulder, and making amusing faces. jian suggested he throw them into the audience instead of over his shoulder, and murray said that he would hand them to us. i personally ended up with two, one of which i gave to beth and the other i split with linda. beth still hasn’t thrown hers out; she says it’s because “five people have touched it,” but i think she’s got other motivations :). he gave a few to mike too. murray then threw the box into the audience, and a mad scramble ensued on the floor in front of me. i think anna came up with it eventually. the band started discussing the fact that they were a supergroup at home; actually, it ended up that each member was part of a different supergroup at home (with murray being the drummer for TodddddddD). this led to aforementioned YWGTTM segue. the wonderful 9:30 club graciously allowed us to stand around afterward and talk to murray and jian; as i was facing a rather long drive back to school, i played groupie and joined the throng pushing toward jian rather than standing back and waiting for the masses to disperse. i commented that i noticed he had gotten a haircut in the previous month, because that night was the first time i’d ever seen his hair longer than mine. he laughed, signed my poster, and thanked me for my support, saying that he looked forward to seeing me the next night. i then wandered like a dumb sheep until claire gave me a shove toward the corridor leading backstage where murray had set up shop. i did the groupie thing again as did lisa (with a similar trek weighing on her mind, i believe :). while talking with murray about how much i loved “independence day” and how excited i was for the new album, he started signing my poster, writing "dear kate" before even asking my name. this freaked me out a little—-until i noticed that jian had included my name in his signature as well. i laughed, and murray said that i looked like a kate. on the way past the van, beth yelled out a goodbye to cal, with whom she had become relatively infatuated that evening. thankfully, my car was still in the lot when i got back to it, and the gates were open, allowing me to take it home without many problems, except of course the oil leak. we had to put another quart in it before getting out of the city. that was ass long. i’ll try to be more brief in my troc review :). - -- **************************************************************************** Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu **************************************************************************** nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight - --bruce cockburn, "lovers in a dangerous time" and so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. - --douglas adams, "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" we're splitting into two camps--mike, i'm with you. - --jian ghomeshi, bottom line, 1/1 *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #138 ********************************************