From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #1030 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, December 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 1030 Today's Subjects: ----------------- fun in buffalo [danaloi@aol.com (Danaloi)] Re: Cross-border sneaking [danaloi@aol.com (Danaloi)] Lowest Music Prices, Large Selection 6727 [zqbjhw@yahoo.com] Re: OT: Irish Music Query [serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman)] Re: local coverage... [danaloi@aol.com (Danaloi)] Re: fun in buffalo [phroovisgrl@aol.com (Erin Ireland)] Re: OT: typewriters [danaloi@aol.com (Danaloi)] Article in Artvoice Magizine (buffalo) (LONG!) [dgodwin01@aol.com (DGodwi] Re: fun in buffalo [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Begging (NoHo, ya right) ["Neilbert" ] Re: fun in buffalo ["Neilbert" ] Re: Begging (NoHo, ya right) ["Kevin Kobos" ] really weird chris rock-fruvous connection! [acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78)] Re: a whole bunch of stuff [leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender)] Re: *SIGH* [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Dec 1999 14:24:10 GMT From: danaloi@aol.com (Danaloi) Subject: fun in buffalo If anyone wants to suggest stuff to do on New Year's Day or wants to get together for pizza or sumpin' in Buffalo before either night's show .... we might just be up for that. I'm just hopin' I get in Jan. 1 if that's what we elect to do. Dan ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1999 14:26:36 GMT From: danaloi@aol.com (Danaloi) Subject: Re: Cross-border sneaking oh, jeez, if I gotta clean out my car I'm gonna die. Good thing I'll have a fun-lovin' woman with me to bawl when the border guard gets mean. Works with the staties to get me out of speeding tickets. Dan ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 1999 17:31:47 GMT From: zqbjhw@yahoo.com Subject: Lowest Music Prices, Large Selection 6727 Largest music selection around http://windycity.getto.net/ wywcdzqeykvsfemkpgqwjjizvsxknhrbebqohstfwqzqjydltvmjekbjkhtjdbcuukxukxphwyesisdoyqdqucbbf ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1999 19:50:51 GMT From: serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman) Subject: Re: OT: Irish Music Query When I did volunteer work at WFUV during their fund drive, this was one of their "special gifts" during Mille Failte/A Thousand Welcomes show. I'd suggest either going to the FUV website or calling them and asking about it. - -J writing a song called the Ballad of Jill V. Fruhead Ji-Murray person The Leopard Lady "She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter Too short to play herself in a movie ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1999 14:20:26 GMT From: danaloi@aol.com (Danaloi) Subject: Re: local coverage... that's very cool... somehow I fell off the tree for last year's (or was it the year before?) New Year's Eve show in NY... anyone who got the tapes willing to share? I only taped Fruvous once and it didn't turn out great-sounding being in a small loud club. My girlfren and I are going to the BNL show about a mile away from the Tralf... staying in Buffalo 2 nights and we'll likely be going to the Jan. 1 show though, if we don't decide to chuck the plans and head to Toronto to see Sharkskin, another great Canadian act... Dan NP: Wilco California Stars (live on Conan) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1999 17:03:58 GMT From: phroovisgrl@aol.com (Erin Ireland) Subject: Re: fun in buffalo Dan wrote: >If anyone wants to suggest stuff to do on New Year's Day or wants to get >together for pizza or sumpin' in Buffalo before either night's show .... we >might just be up for that. >I'm just hopin' I get in Jan. 1 if that's what we elect to do. Hey, I'll be in Buffalo for NYE and NYD, so I'm lookin' for something to do during the day Jan 1. If anyone wants to get together before the show, count me in! Just name the time and place (I'm not that familiar with Buffalo). Hope to see you all at the show(s)! Erin ><}}*> "...Who is on the verge of tattooing "My Poor Generation" across her forehead if something interesting doesn't happen soon..." <*{{{>< ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1999 14:15:57 GMT From: danaloi@aol.com (Danaloi) Subject: Re: OT: typewriters using computers sted o card catalogs to look up library books is OK, but it still leads to stiff necks and carpal tunnel. I think the net is great for research on ANYTHING just about... except organized musical info. Weird the responses you get like papers by physicists and articles on footy when you type in "Ian Stewart." That said, I helped my son get info on Italian Christmas customs in nothing flat a week or two ago. Dan who remembers: Black and white TV shows, bubblegum music, when Peanuts had a lot more characters, and going to the library with nothing in mind and just finding cool stuff and reading all day, everything from Cole Porter musical scores to big art books to Harry Houdini bios and zeppelin history and Everything you always wanted to know about Sex. (but were afraid to ask). Read the book before you see the Woody Allen movie. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1999 20:27:10 GMT From: dgodwin01@aol.com (DGodwin01) Subject: Article in Artvoice Magizine (buffalo) (LONG!) Below is a lengthy article written by Tyler Michael (who also has one on the next page on BNL) that appears in Artvoice Magizine, December 23-29, 1999. It was typed (painfully) by me.. Without permission of course... Enjoy! Daniel Y2K now has some Moxy - Fruvous that is. If January 1 indeed proves to be the end of the world as we know it, these lovable Canadian rockers plan to take it out in style, book ending the old millennium and the new one with music. They'll be playing both New Year's Eve and New Year's night at the marquee in Buffalo. Back-to-back shows on a celebratory weekend shouldn't be all the difficult, according to Jian Ghomeshi, a vocalist, drummer and songwriter in this multi-faceted and talented band that likes to straddle the fence between satire and seriousness. "We figured if everything is still there (after Y2K) we can play the same place the next night," he said. "We can prove our stamina. The venue isn't particularly huge (accommodating about 600 people) but it's big enough. It's still got some intimacy, so it won't be a huge spectacle but it will be really exciting. "Some of my favorite shows over the years have been New Year's shows," said Ghomeshi. "Post midnight you can expect some covers. Pre-midnight will be Fruvous songs people might have become familiar with. Post-midnight will get a little crazy, as does the hour. We'll spill out onto Chippewa street looking for slabs of pizza we can eat." There are some ideas pending on shows hijinks, Ghomeshi said. He adds that he actually is grateful to be playing Dec. 31st. "My New Year's agenda has been taken care of by my agent and manager. 'You're playing in Buffalo, that's what you're going to do." The build up to the millennium can be a hard act to follow, he admits. "This is the kind of year that can't possibly live up to the level of fun you're supposed to have," he said. " If you don't have the time of your life this New Year's Eve, this New Year's of the millennium - hell, it's like a kid's birthday. Your birthday could never live up to your anticipation of it. I'm just glad we've got a gig. It will be fun. There will be nice fans there. We've gone out of our way not to gouge fans. We tried to keep the ticket price low." He finds it crazy that some performers will be charging outrageous prices just because it is the last New Year's Eve of the millennium. Moxy Fruvous takes its role as entertainers seriously. "There is almost an unspoken imperative among our audiences to expect us to entertain." Ghomeshi said. "That's something I really believe in. It is an old school notion at this point to believe if people are actually paying then you should entertain them rather than stare at your shoes or turn your back to the audience with the lights down. We perform in the neo vaudeville tradition and get up there just like buskers (which they were) trying to win the audience. It's almost as if we were back on the streets of Toronto where we started." There are sensitive moments in the show, as well as true renditions of songs from their records. "But there's a lot of improvisation and spontaneity, also," he said. "I don't think we are that good at jamming and improvisation, it's just that there is such a dearth of spontaneous creation a lot of people say, 'wow!' I'm actually watching these guys create this on stage.' "Even if what we come up with is shit, it is so unpackaged and unproduced, which is (opposite) of what so much of contemporary music is, it provides real excitement with fans. So, whether it is your first time or 50th time, undoubtedly it will be a show that no one has seen before. Our mandate is to put on a show that we've never done before." The set list changes nightly. Ghomeshi said Moxy considers Western New York an excellent area to close out the millennium. "We've had a really, really great experience in this corridor. We feel a real kinship with Buffalo. We always joked that being in Buffalo is like being in Canada." No matter what the country, there are still people trying to figure out who Moxy Fruvous is, he suggests. "It's a long term losing proposition for us to try and pigeonhole ourselves," Ghomeshi explains. "God knows we tried and failed miserably." He said the band is too interested in going where Fruvous hasn't gone before from album to album. "We just hope people will dig it as a project," he said. "Although there are some things you can expect from us, and one of them are the vocals. The vocals are a cornerstone. The four-part harmony does tend to rear its head no matter what sort of instrumentation is backing it up. And there's biting satire and gentle irony in all we do. Nothing is ever delivered too seriously." Ghomeshi said the band is at a comfortable place. "We are very comfortable in our skin. Earlier in our career, there were times where we felt almost subtly apologetic for not being part of the grunge, alternative music status quo, instead of making this sort of gay, satirical music, eclectic music." They are much more comfortable as players in a band now. "We always played our instruments, but something happens after seven years together playing and touring. I think Michael Stipe said you put six albums out and all of a sudden you become a band." A goal for the band's latest album, Thornhill, was to make music that they felt was true to the group. They also wanted to try for a more cohesive record. "In as much as we are an eclectic group, maybe let our eclecticism appear from record to record, as opposed to within a record. I think that's something (producer) Don Dixon brought to the record and the band - a sonic semblance, a musical cohesion on this record that really flows from song to song." Thornhill is a reference to the Toronto suburb in which the group grew up. "This is really a loosely based concept album about growing up in the suburbs and discovering your friend's stereo downstairs, and learning about the Who and the Stones and CSNY, which is basically what happened to us. "All the songs don't sound the same and the lyrics aren't the same theme, but the album really fits together musically. I really, really like the albums that do that, where it sounds like a moment in time. That's the goal with Thornhill." Ghomeshi said Dixon (whose credits include R.E.M.) is the first producer that the group worked with whom they gave complete deference to his ideas. "We let him run with the ball. That's a testament to his experience and his value and the things he's done. We trust this guy. He's a really spiritually grounding kind of guy." Ghomeshi hopes that people take time to explore the album. "I hope they dig a little deeper to what's being said on the record," he said. "We spent a lot of our career, and coming out of the busking and vaudevillian tradition, writing songs very much in your face. There is satire on this record, but you have to dig a little deeper for it. Basically, I hope that people give it a good listen and seek out more than what's on the surface." The band has been an easy target for some people. "We are damned if we do and damned if we don't." Ghomeshi said. "When we express our more humorous side, critics say it's just a novelty group, a comedy thing. When we express a more serious side or political side, which certainly exists, we are taken to task: 'what happened to these guys? They were funny. They've gotten all morose.' Once again, I think it's a byproduct of being an eclectic group within a culture that demands categorization." He is gratified that Moxy has found success through hard work and believing in themselves. "We won't deny that we would like lots of people to buy our CDs and come and see us," Ghomeshi said. "That we've done what we've done on a grassroots level, and have really big audiences in a lot of cities, in spite of no play on MTV, no commercial radio play, and not even a lot of print media, that truly is a grassroots phenomenon that is very gratifying to us. "That says to me we are doing something right, actually moving people, playing and building a network of fans." ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1999 21:23:28 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re: fun in buffalo Anyone up for a Fru Road trip to Niagra Falls? We can go to the Canadian side and be in Moxy's Homeland. We can even buy Canadian Smarties! Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:33:09 -0500 From: "Neilbert" Subject: Begging (NoHo, ya right) Okay, I know this is incredibly late and I have absolutely no chance, but I just found out I could get up to NoHo on Thursday. Even better, I have someone who I'd like to introduce to some better music. :-) Any chance someone has a spare pair of tickets, (ha!) I'd love to hear from you. I'll even give my real email (neil@neilbert.com) as a point of contact. Any help would be appreciated, but I know it's late for this kind of stuff. - -- - -neil neilliam@hotmail.com www.neilbert.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:22:20 -0500 From: "Neilbert" Subject: Re: fun in buffalo I just want to say that I went to Niagara Falls in mid winter once. It was extremely cold when I went (daytime temp was around 15) but the mist coming up from the falls and covering everything with a glaze of ice? Beautiful! - -- - -neil neilliam@hotmail.com www.neilbert.com Gordon Nash wrote in message news:19991226162328.07301.00001978@ng-fz1.aol.com... > Anyone up for a Fru Road trip to Niagra Falls? We can go to the Canadian side > and be in Moxy's Homeland. We can even buy Canadian Smarties! > Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:42:55 -0500 From: "Kevin Kobos" Subject: Re: Begging (NoHo, ya right) 4 days ago I just called 413-586-8686 and got 2 tickets for the show. It wasn't sold out. I've been reading posts on this newsgroup that the show was sold out up to 3 weeks ago. That was not the case. I even saw a post on here that they would not be selling tickets at the door. Not sure about that, but perhaps this is also not true, seeing how the show wasn't sold out as of 4 days ago. Neilbert wrote in message <3866cfe6_2@news1.prserv.net>... >Okay, I know this is incredibly late and I have absolutely no chance, but I just found out I could get up to NoHo on Thursday. Even >better, I have someone who I'd like to introduce to some better music. :-) Any chance someone has a spare pair of tickets, (ha!) I'd >love to hear from you. I'll even give my real email (neil@neilbert.com) as a point of contact. Any help would be appreciated, but I >know it's late for this kind of stuff. > >-- >-neil >neilliam@hotmail.com >www.neilbert.com > > ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 1999 03:15:28 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: really weird chris rock-fruvous connection! OK, my brothers are watching Chris Rock on Comedy Central right now, and he's going on about pork and how, thousands of years ago, pork could kill people. Three guesses as to what's in my head now. Carey "It was hiding in the tall grass, by the cellular store . . ." ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 1999 03:12:04 GMT From: leaben@aol.comBender (Leah Bender) Subject: Re: a whole bunch of stuff (Gella (spin0za1) wanted to add her thoughts to the NG but seeing as none of her replies have been going through she asked me to put it up for her.) >>3) Given some of the responses to the Frucon suggestion box, I'm kind of >> happy that Lee's is only for 21 and up! Oh, yes, thank you so much for directly attacking EVERYONE under the age of 21! Look, I know you probably don't want to hear this, but to put it mildly, this statement made me EXTREMELY ANGRY!!! Mildly put. Seriously, attacking an age group like that is no different from attacking an ethnic group. Manners and intelligence are pretty evenly distributed between "adults" and "minors." There are plenty of stupid and poorly mannered adults out there, (yes, früheads included, as Gordon and Lawrence can attest to my experience with) and it is JUST as unfair to group minors together into a stereotyped category as it is rediculous to pigeonhole Moxy Früvous as a categorized musical group. Okay, the angry 18 year old will now crawl back into her hole. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 04:32:08 GMT From: Subject: Re: *SIGH* Lisa Carpenter wrote in message <3861B223.8E4934D6@sk.sympatico.ca>... > > >Bridget wrote: > >> Well, I am in bliss. I just heard Fruvous on the >> radio for the first time EVER, outside of taped >> shows...! Of course, I'm listening to WXPN via >> the internet, but Fruvous on the radio is Fruvous >> on the radio, ya know? Who knows, maybe someday >> a Colorado radio station will get with the >> program... (o; >> >> ===== >> xoxoxo >> bridget > >This is kinda oppposite, but it still fits. The last time I heard >Früvous on the radio was when Get in the Car was a single, and I live in >Canada!! Does that not bite? YES it does!! But don't feel too blue, last time I heard a complete fruvous song on the radio was the first time I heard of them and that was over 4 years ago!! - -- Cara Kozack "It's a reference to a _____ that you've never even heard of by\in a _____ that you probably don't even like." My e-mail at fruomffan@xoommail.com My world at http://www.crosswinds.net/~fruomffan ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #1030 *********************************************