From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #1009 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, December 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 1009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: RIT show this past Spring ["Jim Czadzeck" ] Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th ["Valerie Jones" ] Re: Toronto Setlist [dopeytoo ] Re: Moxy Kitty ["Novac" ] ENLARGE YOUR PENIS...FREE INFO....NATURAL...3-5 Inches in weeks 4978 [qq] Watch me SUCK COCK LIVE....FREE SITE.... 3868 [qqwerskd2@dsdlwer.net] HUGE PENIS!!! 4181 [qqwerskd2@dsdlwer.net] DVN latest newsletter (on topic, sort of) [seqiro@mail2.nai.net (Paul D. ] Re: Great Fru-day [fruwench@aol.com (FruWench)] 12/4/99 Clifton Park Show [Russell Wolff ] Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th [Ellen ] Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th [Chad Maloney ] Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th [Chad Maloney ] Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th [Ellen ] Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th [Ellen Subject: Re: RIT show this past Spring Wow if someone taped that, could you let me know also for a trade. It was one of the best shows I have been to. If I could get COBOL on tape I would be in heaven. "Natasha O'Loughlin" wrote in message news:384C68C1.590C5A55@infoshark.com... > Alright I know this is a little late but the RIT show in Rochester was > my 1st Moxy show and I had a blast. They played this song that I'm just > going to call the COBOL song and I was wondering if the people who taped > the shoe can give me a copy of just that song. > > -Tash > > aka New Fruhead > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 05:37:22 GMT From: "Valerie Jones" Subject: Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th ACW wrote: > Ahem. Outside the taping moratorium, I've been to at least four shows > this year that weren't taped: Virginia Beach, Minneapolis, Winnipeg and > Pinawa. Those were all nice shows I'm really happy I attended. > > Just setting the record straighter; there may well have been other > shows with no tapers. But how do you know that *none* of those shows were taped? Would it blow anyone's mind to think that there are MF fans who aren't connected with the AMM-F taper community who tape shows without the professional equipment that makes for a better tape? For instance, there was an incident at the Philly Folk Fest, during the Drinking Song, when some guy I've never seen began screaming bloody murder about another guy I've never seen who was taping. The taper had a small, hand-held recorder, and if it weren't for the other guy who went berserk and screamed towards the band, "THAT GUY'S GOT A TAPE RECORDER!!! THAT GUYS TAPING!!!" and then went on to make noises like "BLAWEEYOOOOOOAAAALEEEEROOOOOOFODOOOOO......." in what I can only assume was an attempt to ruin the other guy's tape ... well then, no one would have known he was taping, right? I guess he was taping for his own collection. Not all MF fans are on this newsgroup. I don't think it's a real stretch to imagine that there are fans who tape shows for their own enjoyment and don't feel the need to share (possibly because their recording isn't top quality, or maybe because they don't know about the trading community?). I personally wouldn't make a statement that there was no taping at specific shows unless I personally frisked everybody at the venue. ~v~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:15:39 -0500 From: dopeytoo Subject: Re: Toronto Setlist so i assume they're all feeling better? i just hope that wasn't the proposed setlist from pawling :( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 03:02:47 -0500 From: "Novac" Subject: Re: Moxy Kitty I'll take this as an opportunity to plug everyone's favorite site, www.jiankillscats.com ! - --Novac Kathleen Cain wrote in message news:82n6k0$og$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net... > Just an observation I wanted to share. 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There are hundreds of them in very small print, and if you scour it carefully enough, you just might find some surprises like "We Dig Eddie From Ohio", "We Wish We Were the Bobs", and of course "Moxy Fruvous" :) Keep reading, there's a lot of great ones! Paul ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 1999 13:05:37 GMT From: fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) Subject: Re: Great Fru-day Congratulations!! And welcome to AMMF. *hug* Dont' forget to check out www.fruvous.com and of course www.fruhead.com. See you around!! ladywench "Music not danced to is music wasted." - Eileen Ivers, PFF 38 FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:58:21 GMT From: Russell Wolff Subject: 12/4/99 Clifton Park Show Hi Everyone. It's Russell Wolff again. First let me say again, because I can't say it enough. THANK YOU! You guys are still sending me emails and what not. I put up a lot of your responses on the website: www.russellwolff.com. Here is a question... did anyone get any pictures of me or the band from that night? If so, I would really love to post them on the site. :) Also, if there are more comments or reviews, feel free to mail them to: reviews@russellwolff.com. You can be sure that they will appear as well! Hope to see all of you soon. - -Russell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:10:03 -0800 From: Ellen Subject: Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th In article <384F59C2.3A563F19@tiger.towson.edu>, "Anna!" wrote: > Fruvous is most certainly not Phish. Their fan base is exponentially > smaller - I doubt that the members of Phish know their tapers by first > name, or *see* the taping equipment in the crowd while they perform. Ok, this is a stupid little aside, but actually, the members of Phish do know some of their tapers by name. Think of it this way: if Fruvous is playing major arenas in 6 or 8 years and Jason or Chad or one of those Usual Suspects is out there in the crowd, the band will still know them. It wasn't THAT long ago that Phish played clubs. ;) And at a Phish show, there is a defined tapers' section, so there aren't just a bunch of mic stands scattered throughout the crowd. There is a rather large section of seats behind the soundboard that's filled with them. I haven't stood on the stage of any of these places, but I'm betting Trey et al can see them just fine. And they know that every syllable they utter is being taped. They have a newsgroup, too. ;) Point? Not just to play devil's advocate, believe it or not. ;) I'd love to see Fruvous set up something like this at the bigger places they play. It wouldn't be feasible at a place like the room they played at Amherst, [1] but it absolutely would be at a place like the 9:30 club. peace. ellen [1] note that this didn't stop the tapers from converging in one area anyway. yay, tapers! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:57:56 -0800 From: Ellen Subject: Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th Holy Bitchfest, Batman. Everyone take a deep breath, OK? Do you need some glitter? Here, close your eyes. A few random thoughts came to me while witnessing this carnage. First: I'm glad some of this came out, actually. At the time of the no-taping announcement, I was surprised that there wasn't more discussion of it on-list. I wondered what other people (specifically, tapers) thought of it. I would not have called it a "contentious" issue, unless there was argument among the band members, which I wouldn't know about. The attitude of the fans/tapers I talked to seemed just to be, "nuts. Oh, well." Perhaps there was more resentment over it than I knew about, though. The lack of comment on the ng made me think that no one was particularly surprised or upset by it. Thing is, I never got the idea that there was any chance of it being permanent, so even the word "moratorium" shook me a bit, because that word usually implies more than something as temporary as one *week* with no taping. Recall that Jude's email said quite specifically that there was to be no taping "this week." And I also agree that what Jian probably meant was not that there were *no* untaped shows for the last 3 years, but that with *every single* show there was a possibility (a likelihood, even ;) that it would be taped. Which, to the band, is pretty much the same thing. Even if only 75% of shows are taped, unless you know in advance which ones, you are never free of the thought that you're being recorded. Oh and... once again, I find myself wondering about the maturity level of some of the people here. *sigh* peace, ellen (and if anybody posts a lyric from GWS, i shall scream.) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:15:50 GMT From: "Anna!" Subject: Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th Ellen wrote: > Ok, this is a stupid little aside, but actually, the members of Phish > do know some of their tapers by name. Think of it this way: if > Fruvous is playing major arenas in 6 or 8 years and Jason or Chad or > one of those Usual Suspects is out there in the crowd, the band will > still know them. It wasn't THAT long ago that Phish played clubs. ;) > And at a Phish show, there is a defined tapers' section, so there > aren't just a bunch of mic stands scattered throughout the crowd. > There is a rather large section of seats behind the soundboard that's > filled with them. I haven't stood on the stage of any of these places, > but I'm betting Trey et al can see them just fine. And they know that > every syllable they utter is being taped. They have a newsgroup, too. > ;) Well, I suppose I stand corrected :) Having never actually *seen* a Phish show (not by my own choice, mind you) I didn't really know about assigned taper seats. I guess maybe the point I was trying to make (and wouldn't you know - I've forgotten it already!) was just that Fruvous is *different* then Phish. Obviously. I can't speak for anyone else involved - but this is my *speculation* ... Fruvous is a small band, albeit a widely respected band, they're still not a household name. If you say you've got a new Phish or DMB boot, nobody is going to think twice, but they're still going to blink and say "Moxy Who?" if you mention your new Ann Arbor tape. (unless they know you really well, and then they just roll their eyes.) The fact that they aren't a super-huge band, in my opinion, has to change the way they view taping. True, every Phish, DMB, Rusted Root, Ani Difranco ... show might be taped, but in reality, how many people go to their shows and yell out "Play [insert name of three year old improv here]"? How many people can come up to Trey or Page after a show and say "Hey remember that jam you guys did in NYC two years ago?" In DC (I think) a few weeks ago, Jian replied to an improv request with "I'm sorry, I don't know what you're talking about - we don't have copies of all our shows on tape." My response: Ouch. I guess I meant to imply that Fruvous seems inundated with the presence of tapers. *NOT* to imply that taping is bad - I think it's great. I think Jason, Chad, Joe, Kevin, Nate, and the rest of the crew rock. But the fact remains that the dynamic (how many times can I use this word?!) the band has with the fans, the fact that they are playing small venues, and they are having what seems like every word, joke, and especially screw up, being discussed at length, apparently seems to have made them feel fairly uncomfortable at times. More so then a larger band with a tremendous reputation and following might feel. I don't know if it's the same with most other bands, but it was rather telling when 'Thornhill' came out and I realized that I not only already knew almost every song, but had them on a tape somewhere. I guess I'm just being my usual rabid advocate for bands' rights here. I'm not trying to piss anyone off or perpetuate the "bitchfest" by any means. In fact, maybe I ought to go back to sleep! *sigh* - -anna- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:12:38 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th Ellen wrote: > Point? Not just to play devil's advocate, believe it or not. ;) I'd > love to see Fruvous set up something like this at the bigger places > they play. It wouldn't be feasible at a place like the room they > played at Amherst, [1] but it absolutely would be at a place like the > 9:30 club. Honestly, I don't like tapers section much. Sometimes they put them in weirdo places. I could see this happen at 9:30 where the best place for me to setup my mics is absolutely not in anyone's line of sight and has almost no chance of picking up a lot of crowd noise or air conditioner noise. If they stick the section on the floor there, what do I do? Go against the section and setup where I want to? While Fruvous taping is still small (i.e. one if that mic stand at a show) I don't see a Tapers Section as important. Once we get 3 or 4 stands at a show and it's causing problems it may be important, but right now, the behavior of the tapers that use stands is pretty good the way it is. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:28:53 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th Ellen wrote: > > Holy Bitchfest, Batman. Everyone take a deep breath, OK? Do you need > some glitter? Here, close your eyes. Ellen, you responded to me, but I dunno if you meant me. I don't feel I'm bitching or anything. I feel I'm contributing the taper side to this discussion. If you don't see me as being reasonable and rather see me as bitching, please reread what I've posted because I don't mean it that way at all. > A few random thoughts came to me while witnessing this carnage. First: > I'm glad some of this came out, actually. At the time of the no-taping > announcement, I was surprised that there wasn't more discussion of it > on-list. I wondered what other people (specifically, tapers) thought > of it. I would not have called it a "contentious" issue, unless there > was argument among the band members, which I wouldn't know about. The > attitude of the fans/tapers I talked to seemed just to be, "nuts. Oh, > well." Perhaps there was more resentment over it than I knew about, > though. The lack of comment on the ng made me think that no one was > particularly surprised or upset by it. There was dicussion of it off list, believe me, at least in the taper circle I'm in (which is the biggest one to my knowledge anyways). Two of the tapers I know got in contact with people closer to the band that we know to figure out what was up because we could see a couple motivations behind it. We gathered as much of the info as we could so we understood what was up, beyond just a "please don't" sorta statement because we were the people directly affected by this and we wanted to make sure we didn't do anything to warrant this or cause some sort of change. None of this happened on list because we didn't think it's appropriate on list discussion. It was between that circle of tapers only. And no one in that circle of tapers taped any of the shows during that time span that I know of. I'm 100% sure no one in that circle taped Philly or DC because I was there and I'm 99% sure the others weren't taped by us either because I trust the other tapers. Yes, the response we came up with was "nuts, oh well." Half of the reason the band wanted to do it was to allow us, the tapers, a chance to enjoy a show without dealing with equiptment. But a lot of us, the tapers, like dealing with equiptment and enjoy the experience as a whole. But that said, I know I personally really enjoyed those shows and not having to deal with rig and worrying about how a tape will come out. There was no contentious issue that I know of. At least not in my taper circle. > Oh and... once again, I find myself wondering about the maturity level > of some of the people here. *sigh* Ellen, again, since you are responding to my post, I get the feeling you are talking about me. If you see what I am posting as immature, please reread it. I don't feel I'm immature in this place usually and if my posts seem like it, I would hope it is my inadvertant wording and not me myself. Of course I could be wrong, as I shouldn't judge my own maturity level I guess. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:22:05 -0800 From: Ellen Subject: Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th In article <38512729.552A87D1@tiger.towson.edu>, "Anna!" wrote: > I guess maybe the > point I was trying to make (and wouldn't you know - I've forgotten > it already!) was just that Fruvous is *different* then Phish. > Obviously. Sure, I would never disagree with that. My point it just that the taping problems Fruvous is facing are ones that other bands have faced before, gotten past, and come out on top of. > (unless they know you really well, and then they just roll their eyes.) *snort* totally true! > The fact that they aren't a super-huge band, in my opinion, has to > change the way they view taping. True, every Phish, DMB, Rusted > Root, Ani Difranco ... show might be taped, but in reality, how many > people go to their shows and yell out "Play [insert name of three year > old improv here]"? See, THIS is where the real difference lies, IMO. It's not in the size of Fruvous's fame-- all of the artists I know of that allow taping did so when they were playing clubs, too. The difference is that *their* shows tend to vary by setlist alone, not by all the banter between songs. Phish improvises musical jams, not comedy routines. IOW, what's being recorded is their musical acheivements and screw-ups, not their political views or personal stories. I don't blame Fruvous for being a little wary of the jokes they make on stage being recorded. But the musical experimentation is something everyone does, and every artist who allows taping deals with the same issue. Now, the fact the Phish are a lot more wealthy than Fruvous is certainly a factor here. They are a lot more easily able to shake off a bad show b/c they know that even if they lost half their fans in one fell swoop, they'd still be playing ampitheaters. What's important to remember, though, is that the fans who want tapes of live shows obsess a lot less about (the appropriateness of) what Jian or Mike said on a given night than Jian and Mike do. I know, that contradicts the whole idea of "we don't remember that-- we don't have tapes of our shows." But really. If the band puts on a mediocre show, less people are going to be interested in getting a tape of it than if the band puts on a stellar show. In general, if the fans don't like whatever the band did that night, they're not going to go looking for it on tape. So when people *want* to get their hands on a show, it means they LIKED it, and the band has less to worry about than if they didn't. The shows the band cringes over are often the ones that don't get widely distributed, anyway. > In DC (I think) a few weeks ago, Jian replied to an improv request > with "I'm sorry, I don't know what you're talking about - we don't have > copies of all our shows on tape." My response: Ouch. Yeah, I heard this, too. Someone kept shouting for MonkeyBoy. I didn't think "ouch." I just thought, "heh." But it is an example of how, IMO, Fruvous keeps waffling with regard to the taping issue. The allow it, but they also make fun of it. Who knows, though, maybe the PhishBoys would, too, if they were chattier on stage. > I guess I meant to imply that Fruvous seems inundated with the > presence of tapers. > the fact that they are playing small venues, and they are having what > seems like every word, joke, and especially screw up, being discussed > at length, apparently seems to have made them feel fairly > uncomfortable at times. More so then a larger band with a > tremendous reputation and following might feel. Gotcha, I understand this, but I don't think the size of the band's reputation has anything to do with it. I think the guys just need to get used to the idea of being recorded if they want to allow taping. No matter what size the venue or how many people there, the tapers will be there. Whether or not they get comfortable with it is a matter of letting go of the urge to second-guess. Not the size of the place. How is it better if *20,000* people heard you say something in bad taste and had a chance to get it on tape? (and told two friends, who told 2 friends, etc etc.;) It might *feel* more anonymous, but it really just means that more people will get their hands on it. > I don't know if it's the same with most other bands, but it was > rather telling when 'Thornhill' came out and I realized that I not only > already knew almost every song, but had them on a tape somewhere. Yah, this is pretty common. My friend the Phish stats man is always emailing me setlists that have many songs I've never heard of on them, and when I ask, "what the hell's that?" I'm usually directed to a web site where I can download the MP3. ;) > I'm not trying to piss anyone off or perpetuate the "bitchfest" by > any means. No, your post was pretty logical and rational. Woo hoo for occasional sanity! peace, ellen (*scroll up* oh my god, did i write all that??...) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:41:31 -0500 From: Amy! Subject: re: tangents (was re: rant ... post d.c. show) Wow. This was just perfect. Good job on assessing everything that has been said lately on the newsgroup. ...I'm a lurker and a lot of stuff that has been said lately has been bothering me and I think that what Lori said is perfect...she addressed everything constructively. it's amazing what can come out of people sometimes. by the way, where did this quote come from: > ************************ > Wouldn't it be great if no one ever got offended > And wouldn't it be great to say what's really on your mind? > I've always said all the rules are made for bendin' > And if I let my hair down would that be such a crime? > > I want to be consequence free > I want to be where nothing needs to matter > > Wouldn't it be great if the band just never ended > We could stay out late and we would never hear last call > We wouldn't need to worry about approval or permission > We could slip off the edge and never worry about the fall > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Deja.com: Before you buy. > http://www.deja.com/ > * To modify or remove your subscription, go to > http://www.deja.com/edit_sub.xp?group=alt.music.moxy-fruvous > * Read this thread at > http://www.deja.com/thread/%3C0.be612f8c.25788a41%40aol.com%3E > "My poor generation doesn't know what it means the shock of the mountains compared to magazines Is it timeless and holy, or just a hill of beans? Lost in Union Station. My poor generation. Maybe we're just looking in a fun house mirror and lovin' our reflection. Maybe corporate raiders got too greedy in the 80s and bought up all the direction My poor generation" ~Dave Matheson, Moxy Fruvous Amy Dunmire dunmiram@jmu.edu Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:56:35 -0800 From: Ellen Subject: Re: Toronto Sun interview, Dec. 7th In article <38512A45.1A9C3F96@fruvous.com>, Chad Maloney wrote: > Ellen, again, since you are responding to my post, I get the > feeling you are talking about me. If you see what I am posting as > immature, please reread it. I don't feel I'm immature in this place > usually and if my posts seem like it, I would hope it is my > inadvertant wording and not me myself. Of course I could be wrong, > as I shouldn't judge my own maturity level I guess. No, Chad, I'm sorry. I responded to your post just because Remarq requires you to pick one, and yours was the last one I read before I posted. You're a Voice of Sanity around here. Even though I think you're wrong about taper sections.[1] ;) ;) What I really meant to refer to was the snark fest that started because Amanda and Katie disagreed about something. [2] Which is not to say that it's all their fault. Just that it started there. peace, ellen [1] no I don't, really. You have a valid point about them not being neccessary given how small the Fruvous taping community is thus far. But FTR, I have been at a number of shows in the last 6 months where there are 4 or 5 mic stands in evidence. [2] I meant what I said about GWS lyrics. Don't make me open up this can of whup-ass. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 13:27:53 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: tangents (was re: rant ... post d.c. show) "Amy!" wrote: > by the way, where did this quote come from: > > ************************ > > Wouldn't it be great if no one ever got offended > > And wouldn't it be great to say what's really on your mind? > > I've always said all the rules are made for bendin' > > And if I let my hair down would that be such a crime? > > > > I want to be consequence free > > I want to be where nothing needs to matter > > > > Wouldn't it be great if the band just never ended > > We could stay out late and we would never hear last call > > We wouldn't need to worry about approval or permission > > We could slip off the edge and never worry about the fall Great Big Sea's song "Consequence Free" from their new album called Turn. If you don't know GBS, check out their web page at www.greatbigsea.com. It's got some good info. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 1999 20:10:27 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: It's late, I'm blathering, don't mind me. Angela said: > It's late, I'm blathering, don't mind me. Oh, as someone who always posts early and never blathers, let me assure you I mind a great deal. ;) >s (ok, call me a 23 year old fishgirl) hey, there were multiple fishgirls in Albany. I sincerely hope that other than Jill's one pic the others did NOT turn out ... >P.S. Is the gateway being fickle again? Something's being fickle, and it's affecting the newsreader too. And I do wish Kathleen's wonderful new computer would tell all that spam to go AWAY. - -- Lori, who, like Gordon, does not need any enlargement of her male anatomy. ;) Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~~^~ ^~^~^ ~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~ ^~^ ^~^~^~ ^~^~ ^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 99 22:22:11 GMT From: opgimo@yahoo.com Subject: Largest music selection around 6361 Lowest Music Prices, Large Selection http://musicisat.mysite.de/ vorqhifvpetgkogcdbhskcwzjvtz ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #1009 *********************************************