From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #1000 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, December 6 1999 Volume 03 : Number 1000 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: underwear at shows (was Re: Fruheads unite and..Calm DOWN (fwd)) [Lue] Re: ot: VH [Joe Navratil ] anyone tape Collingswood? [toetappr1@aol.com (Toetappr1)] didja tape it? [beatleslug@aol.comprendo (BeatleSlug)] Open Apology to Gella [jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com (Neil Bardhan)] Open Apology to Gella [Spin0za1@aol.com] 12.2.99 review [Spin0za1@aol.com] 12.1.99 review [Spin0za1@aol.com] Internet Stock Offering - Pre-IPO Shares! [Net IPO] Re: Fruvous as Jazz [McCown ] Re: ot: Vertical Horizon [piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO)] Re: Amherst Review(long) ["^kat^" ] Re: Review: Albany! 12/4/99 [hawley@best.com (hawley)] Re: tangents (was re: rant ... post d.c. show) [Katrin@optelnow.net (Kat] fruvous dreams are spreading ["Carey Farrell" ] Re: Behavior during opening acts. [serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman] Re: Behavior during opening acts. ["Adam Hartfield" ] Re: "the wrong way" ["Novac" ] Must I beg again? ["Kate Leahy" ] Clifton Park 12/4 ["Hell Hotel" ] Fruvous mentioned in Dec. 6 New Yorker Magazine..... ["^kat^'s mom" Subject: Re: underwear at shows (was Re: Fruheads unite and..Calm DOWN (fwd)) Raenfaerie@aol.com wrote: > Speaking of underwear at shows, would anyone mind clueing me in on what > exactly what that congo line / bunch of wet, cold, nearly-naked young men > (and women??? yes? no?) were that cut through the crowd in Amherst on Friday. > It was ... interesting. But more than mildly puzzling. > > peace, > -maryam the naked- Well, according to Tobey, my perpetual source of all random and fruvous related information that was the U-MASS track team on their annual mile run in their underwear. A school tradition apparently. But, too me they looked more like a swim team than a track team... And no, the band had no prior knowledge that this was about to occur during their concert. - --luella ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 15:31:46 -0500 From: Joe Navratil Subject: Re: ot: VH Angela wrote: > Jacey7 writes: > >Anyway, this vertical horizon outfit has me intrigued, so what's the best > >album > >of theirs to start with? > > My friend Cheryl got me started on them with their latest album, > Everything You Want. I havent had it long and I already know all the > words by heart. I have to disagree, sorry :-) IMHO, the best album to start with, as far as Vertical Horizon is concerned, is their live album -- "Live Stages". Quick bit of history: VH started out as a folk duo, released their first album, became a kinda folk/pop/"adult contemporary" band with their second album, changed members a bit for their third album (Live Stages, the one I'd recommend), and then decided to reinvent themselves (with a few new members) as a run-of-the-mill alt/rock band for their latest, EYW. The group is strongest with one of the original duo, Keith Kane, writing lyrics and the other one, Matt Scannell, playing the heck out of his guitar. Unfortunately, only one track on the new album (the last track, at that) was written by Keith -- it's the strongest song on the album, lyrically and melodically, but the rest of the album is pretty basic bland rock music. Case in point: two songs off "Everything You Want". Compare "So here I slave inside of a broken dream Forever holding on to splitting seams So take your piece and leave me alone to die I don't need you to keep my faith alive" from "Shackled" (words & music by Keith Kane), to "So you sailed away into a grey sky morning Now I'm hear to say that love can be so boring" from "Best I Ever Had", words & music by Matt Scannell, one of the best electric guitar players I've ever heard yet worst pop-song writers. In any case. "Live Stages" was recorded a few years back at Ziggy's in Winston-Salem, a mecca of sorts for me, and has *incredible* versions of several of their songs -- "On The Sea", "The Unchosen One", a twelve-minute version of "Wash Away" with a blistering guitar solo... I love the album, it's one of the best albums I own, and one that I have a habit of playing for friends whenever possible (right, Bridget? :-) ) So, in any case. My two cents. Get "Live Stages" :-) -Joe ------------------------------ Date: 05 Dec 1999 21:22:41 GMT From: toetappr1@aol.com (Toetappr1) Subject: anyone tape Collingswood? I was just wondering if anyone taped the show in Collingswood, NJ on 11-29? If you did, could I possibly get a copy somehow? Thanks. - --Lesley ------------------------------ Date: 05 Dec 1999 21:13:59 GMT From: beatleslug@aol.comprendo (BeatleSlug) Subject: didja tape it? Anybody tape Fruvous on Good Morning Philadelphia? (I think that's what it was, I just read Joni's review on FDC) please tell me if you did. - -Joy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 21:16:58 GMT From: jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com (Neil Bardhan) Subject: Open Apology to Gella I'd like to use AMMF as a forum to Gella Solomon(She's Spin0za1atAOLdotCOM) because I've been a bad friend.. she's posted a decent bit to the newsgroup in past week or so, and I've missed it all because I'm very hasty in what I read here... I've deleted most of the thread about behavior at shows, and as a result, didn't read what she wanted to express until she e-mailed me her ammf posts. Gella's an IRL friend of mine(whom I met before I became interested in Fruvous, if I remember) and I feel like a jerk for not reading her posts here. So if y'all would just slap me around a little, that'd be great. Sorry Gella. Just found out he hasn't been using his signature in FreeAgent, Neil ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 22:00:51 GMT From: Spin0za1@aol.com Subject: Open Apology to Gella I love you Neil. Just send me lots of tapes and all will be cool. And that dumbek I asked for! ;) Love Always Gella ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 21:43:40 GMT From: Spin0za1@aol.com Subject: 12.2.99 review I remember Too Old Too Ugly... and that's it. I liked that one a lot. Sean: When I say Too Old, you say... Lawrence and me: Too Ate??? Too Ar??? No! That's BAAAAD! Gella ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 21:49:44 GMT From: Spin0za1@aol.com Subject: 12.1.99 review It was the West Side Hwy and was recently renamed for Joe DiMaggio. The name hasn't quite taken yet... but I REALLY like saying that my school is located on "Chambers and the Joe D." The Jooooe D. It's SO fun to say! Gella ------------------------------ Date: 05 Dec 1999 16:42:54 EST From: Net IPO Subject: Internet Stock Offering - Pre-IPO Shares! CD EXPLOSION CORP. A Delaware Corporation 625,000 Shares Common Stock Offering Price $ 1.60 per Share Accredited Investors Only. Shares in this Internet e-commerce company are available to a select number of sophisticated investors who meet the requirements set forth in Reg D. Foreign and non-residents outside of the United States of America may participate in this offering. Proceeds to fund expansion of Internet operations and satisfaction of market listing requirements. 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Probably not Don't worry, dear, I'm pretty sure they meant the wrong *direction*, as in the opposite direction as everyone else. (Which I have been guilty of doing by accident a few times...oops! I have no sense of timing, really :)) love Lizzie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 22:34:43 GMT From: McCown Subject: Re: Fruvous as Jazz donna said: > Their improvisations are jazz. The fact that they improvise at all > is standard Jazz, plus all the scat singing. Not to mention their > cover of "Minnie;" and "Boo Time" is decadently jazzy > It's not just in their banter that they show jazz influences. > Anytime you're playing and you're not sure what's going to come next > is jazz, man. :) I think it was at the Point show that they decided to do a few minutes of what they specifically referred to as jazz improv, and it was really pretty cool. (Joni-free style jazz odyssey! ;)) My dad, a jazz drummer (not for a living, though not just for a hobby either), says that they are "jazz in a broad sense, but don't swing enough to be more jazz than pop..." (he likes the guys very much so that's not meant as anything more than an observation, but if you know my dad, he's kind of a music snob :)) >I just worry about people who put categories of music into boxes that > are too small. So do I...that's why I agree with whoever said "there are only two kinds of music: good music and bad music." love Lizzie ------------------------------ Date: 05 Dec 1999 22:22:06 GMT From: piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO) Subject: Re: ot: Vertical Horizon Time to toss in my two cents... I'd say, depends on what you're in the mood for... I got RUNNING ON ICE (their second cd-one before LIVE STAGES) and was very pleased, that was when I first met them- if you're in the mood for the quieter stuff, with pretty much an even split between Matt songs and Keith songs. Matt has a very smooth, James Tayloresque voice (probably why the major label wanted so much of him on the new one), and Keith's voice is more nasal and striking, but you can get used to it quickly as he's got a lot of power and charisma. Wait, where did that sentence used to go? Oh, yeah, if you want a more acoustic feel, go for LIVE STAGES or RUNNING ON ICE... As far as the new one, EVERYTHING YOU WANT, is concerned-- I was scared a bit when I knew they'd done the "electric crossover" thing, but I think that record *rocks*!! I am very disappointed with there being only one Keith song- like I said, I'm sure that was a label decision- but if you look you can see the CD is on sale at soooo many places, major chains and all... I'm glad they're getting the exposure because even a bland VH is tons better than most of the crap on radio now. And I can only hope that someday they'll again have the freedom to make some more choices, like *equal time for Keith*. Another band I know a handful of NG'ers go for in this genre is the late great Jackopierce, out of Dallas. Recently I saw Cary Pierce solo, and while he still rocks live, the record is pretty bland in comparison... wait until you can get it for cheap. But pay the money to see him live if he plays around you. Angel >> My friend Cheryl got me started on them with their latest album, >> Everything You Want. I havent had it long and I already know all the >> words by heart. > >I have to disagree, sorry :-) IMHO, the best album to start with, as far as >Vertical Horizon is concerned, is their live album -- "Live Stages". > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:53:22 -0500 From: "^kat^" Subject: Re: Amherst Review(long) > * ^kat^'s "Sexiest Man Alive" magazine cover. Girlfriend; I would > *love* a copy of that. *grin* lovely to meet you, luella, and i'm glad my little piece of computer artistry made your list of personal highlights. tho' props where props are due: my mom did the hard work with photoshop at wright-patt air force base's multimedia center (in other words, your tax dollars at work, ladies & gents). i just got the joy of presenting it to the man in question. :) and, for the curious, i've updated my webpage below with the amherst story. go there. what else would you be doing right now? *grin* arrr... work to do. i'd rather reminisce, darnit. till noho on the 30th-- ^kat^ "you barely see what stands before you, let alone what hangs above you" http://fly.to/the.midway.after.dark p.s.--soory i missed meeting you both, maryam & ln. i was up-front stage dave both nights, so we must've just been at opposite ends of the venue. next time, hmm? :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 18:33:03 -0500 From: hawley@best.com (hawley) Subject: Re: Review: Albany! 12/4/99 In article <4220450@cupid.Dartmouth.EDU>, Kaitlyn.S.Chantry@Dartmouth.EDU ("If Jim Henson were here, would there be a road rage muppet?" -Russ Wolff) wrote: >Banter (if it can be called that) about "Virtual Insanity" with Mike in his "ghetto" hat. This was when Mike started getting violent. He kicked his first gnome. Yes, Mike was definitely in a violent mood last night. I think he needed a release. I yelled this at Amherst when Mike went a little weird, and I'll recant it here: "Somebody needs to take a cartoon break." -- Crazy Uncle Joe[1] Steve [1] Not your real Uncle. Steve Hawley Bit Banger hawley_at_plinth_dot_org - -- "I am not a vegetarian because I love animals. I am a vegetarian because I hate plants" -- A. Whitney Brown http://www.plinth.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:23:14 -0700 From: Katrin@optelnow.net (Katrin L. Salyers) Subject: Re: tangents (was re: rant ... post d.c. show) In article <38499C0E.BCB654A5@apk.netting>, isis@apk.netting says... > Bridget wrote: > > --- "Katrin L. Salyers" wrote: > > > ...Sleeping on the green couch... > > Sweetie... I *ahem* don't think it was _exactly_ > > called the "green" couch... hee hee. > And I can't believe we're talking about it *here*! :P HEY. As far as I know, it's *just* a green couch. And all I did was sleep on it. k@ - -- "Don't be ashamed to say what you are not ashamed to think." - Michel de Montaigne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 01:00:26 GMT From: "Carey Farrell" Subject: fruvous dreams are spreading My friend Megan is not a Fruhead by any stretch of the imagination -- everything she knows of them is something I've forced on her (subtlety is not one of my strong points where conversion is concerned), and while she likes pretty much everything she's heard and seen, she's not a huge fan or anything. But today at dinner she turned to me and said that she had had a dream about Jian. (Actually, she said "male Nancy," because he looks just like a male version of our friend Nancy, but that has nothing to do with the price of eggs.) Anyway, the dream was about this article in some newspaper, with a witty headline she can't remember, about how "swoonable" he was. That just amused me after a week or two of these "fishgirls"-related posts. Carey ps: Back to real life and an even-cooler development, Megan is also planning on buying Live Noise as a Christmas present for one of her friends from high school, and converting her. I'm so proud :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 06 Dec 1999 00:47:56 GMT From: serra44@aol.comantispam (Jill Friedman) Subject: Re: Behavior during opening acts. I was appalled at the talking during Tory's set. On Wednesday, you could hear a pin drop during his set. I was really upset at the talkers on Thursday...he's so wonderful, why anyone would want to NOT listen to him is beyond me. If you don't like a band's set, go sit outside...your friends'll hold your spots for you. - -J writing a song called the Ballad of Jill V. Fruhead Ji-Murray person Owner of all the MF albums and all of Ani DiFranco's "She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter Too short to play herself in a movie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 01:55:09 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: Behavior during opening acts. > don't like a band's set, go sit outside...your friends'll hold your spots for > you. > -J Oy, this wasn't very easy to do at Clifton Park... Only energetic dancing and singing along to the Frank Sinatra album they played *twice* kept Angie and Lori's spots open... - --Adam adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:17:53 -0500 From: "Novac" Subject: Re: "the wrong way" wrote in message > What is the "wrong way," just to make sure ... ? It's that Sublime song... - --Novac ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:02:40 -0500 From: "Kate Leahy" Subject: Must I beg again? *Please*, *please* - no more "Didja tape . . .?"s. *Please*. If someone taped it, it will appear on their tape list. Check http://www.fruhead.com for the taping section. If you want to know why I beg this, head on over to alt.music.dave-matthews-band. I'd say that roughly 60% of the posts are tape requests. Once that started, conversation on the group essentially died. Let's keep this a *discussion* forum . . . not an auction house. ~~Kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@fruhead.com *********************************** "It's a long long road It's a big big world We are wise wise women We are giggling girls . . . " - --Ani DiFranco *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: 6 Dec 1999 03:36:50 GMT From: "Hell Hotel" Subject: Clifton Park 12/4 YEEEEE-HAAAWW!!!! that was my reaction to saturdays show! I'm not really one to write show reviews but I can't help myself on this one. ok to start off, the opening act!! Russell Wolff. WOW. What a GREAT opening act, very energetic, very entertaining. Very Nipple. I couldn't help but to buy his new cd and get a free pierced nipple keychain. I talked to him for a few after the show and he asked me to send emails make calls or whatever i could do to get him to open for fruvous again....so whatta ya say gang, how bout it? I know I'd love to hear him again in concert. Fruvous: after waiting for what seemed an eternity after Russ's set ended..they came out and opened with surprisingly enough...Substitute!! First time I've heard that live, was great! then into half as much, energetic as always. i don't remember quite all the set list but what i do remember is: horseshoes- Jian managed to tell a sad story and get everyones sympathy Independance Day- some cool echo effects on this one. is it just me or does this song just seem sooo much cooler live?? *comments on the gnomes*...leading into Present tense tureen. saucep'n...with much audience sing along lazy boy- hehe i just love this live pisco- with an intro that got into how canadians hate americans and some other stuff that i really can't remember... minnie- Grandpa fruvous came out and started doing a little karate kid action, some good star trek lines (Disco)VIDEO BARGAINVILLE!!!!- first time i saw this was at falcon ridge and i've been dying to hear it again since. Ohh i just love it, makes me want to kick out some John Travolta-saturday night fever dance moves. Although I'd look like a complete ass doing so...:-) other songs that my memory fails me on..... 1st encore: michy...good good, energetic. in the middle of the song dave's banjo broke and he just set it down and started dancing!! I loved it!! 2nd Encore: king -> green- i always love this! dave's sporting the blue MF hat for his crown. mike tried to burn one of the gnomes during green eggs. 3rd encore: drinking song- my favorite way to end a show...audience singing along. now i know i'm missing plenty from that...but that the best i can do right now. We stayed afterwards to talk to the guys and get some pictures. They all seemed quite tired and not at all healthy. This worries me to some extent here. I do love getting to see the lads perform at every opportunity that i can get, but i wish for their own health that they could slow down some of their touring. Maybe next year will be a bit slower. I'll probably get crucified for that last comment but I can't imagine how miserable it must be to be in a bus all your life. i don't know... well thats my attempt at a review. thanks for your patience. - -Eric Jackson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 23:45:36 -0500 From: "^kat^'s mom" Subject: Fruvous mentioned in Dec. 6 New Yorker Magazine..... In New Yorker Magazine, the "Goings On About Town" section, "Night Life", Concerts: (page 26), the Lads got an entry: "MOXY FRUVOUS- Harmonizing and high jinks with the former buskers from Toronto, whose latest album, "Thornhill," benefits from the mature touch of R.E.M. producer Don Dixon. (Westbeth Theater Center, 151 Bank St. 741-0391. Dec. 1-2 at 8) Frumom ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #1000 *********************************************