From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #94 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, January 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 094 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Teeny Little Superguy (was some stuff) [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin)] Re: Dan Bern / Moxy MP3 [elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James)] Re: Teeny Little Super Guy [elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James)] Re: Continuing stories (was top 5 books) [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin ] Calling all GRUMPS viewers . . . ["KatieWow" ] Fave Books [puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal)] Re: Lotsa stuff no one else remembers (in a big lump) [Cameron_Ross@ufaca] Re: URGENT MESSAGE FOR FRUHEADS [Chad Maloney ] Re: CN Tower [Chad Maloney ] Re: Teeny Little Superguy (was some stuff) [aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (AL] Re: Fave Books [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] Re: Teeny Little Superguy (was some stuff) [Chad Maloney On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:46:47 GMT, "A.J. LoCicero" >wrote: > >>Everyone our age remembers Schoolhouse Rock. How could they not? It is these >>kidling here on the NG that can't remember. > >What's the age bracket on that? I've always felt left out that I >either grew up without knowing Schoolhouse Rock, or just forgot >everything about it. I suppose the age bracket would be folks born between 1964 and 1975 or so. A group of people I like to refer to as "The Sesame Street Generation", but popular media has dubbed Generation-X. (Just last week, I heard an 18 year old refer to himself as a "Gen-Xer", so the popular media definition seems to be growing with time.) A little Schoolhouse Rock history--- Schoolhouse Rock first began airing on ABC Saturday mornings in 1973, and continued mostly uninterrupted until about 1985. First, there was the Multiplication Rock, immediately followed by Grammar Rock and America Rock. In about 1977, they introduced Science Rock. In an attempted revial on ABC in 1983, they created the fifth group: "Computer Rock", or "Scooter Computer and Mr. Chips". It failed spectacularly. ABC attempted to sell videos through Western Publishing to schools in the late 80's, and then, in the early 90's, decided to revive the classic four series on Saturday mornings, adding a sixth series (or fifth, if you don't count Scooter Computer, and ABC doesn't) called Money Rock. They also created a few new episodes of the other series, like The Tale of Mr. Morton and The Busy P's, and it has been airing on ABC Saturday mornings, but only one episode per week, I think in the 8:55 spot, but that might have changed in the last two years, thanks to the ABC One Saturday Morning programming. (Interesting aside, the man who green-lighted Schoolhouse Rock on ABC is Michael Eisner, then VP of children's programming for ABC. Michael Eisner is also the executive responsible for much of what passes for popular culture in the USA today: The entire Paramount Star Trek franchise was his baby: as head of Paramount in 1980, he approved the second movie, which was the basis for all Star Trek since. He created what is today the home video market by marketing sell-through home videos, rather than rental videos. He green lighted such cultural landmarks as Charlie's Angels and The Love Boat as VP for Entertainment at ABC in the 70's., and of course, he's done the whole Disney thing. Anyhow, on with our story...) Currently, the five Schoolhouse Rock series are available on home video from ABC video, including Money Rock, and the new Grammar episodes, but NOT including Scooter Computer, and not including the Science Rock video "The Weather Show", because of litigation over a lyric. A boxed set including everything but "The Weather Show" is available from Rhino Records, RHI72455, as well as four individual CD's for the four original series, and a "Best of Schoolhouse Rock", as well as the afforementioned Schoolhouse Rock Rocks! (on Lava Records) In 1986, MTV helped promote a bit of Gen-X revival by producing and repeatedly showing a documentary/propoganda show about the Schoolhouse Rock Rocks! album, as well as regular showings of a few new videos from the album, which used some original animation. In the early 90's, an ambitious stage troupe produced a live version of "Schoolhouse Rock" in New York and Chicago. The two books of note to Schoolhouse Rock fans are "Schoolhouse Rock: The Offical Guide" by Tom Yuhe, ISBN 0786881704, and "The Schoolhouse Rock Songbook" by Milton Okun, ISBN 1575600188 And, of course, there is the website http://genxtvland.simplenet.com/SchoolHouseRock/ Now, does anyone remember what CBS ran as a counterpart to Schoolhouse Rock during the 70's and early 80's? - --Rodney (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:46:41 GMT From: elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) Subject: Re: Dan Bern / Moxy MP3 ZardSnod (zardsnod@aol.com) wrote: : Chris Okoniewski wrote: : : > : >Enjoy! : > : >ChrisO : > : And, boy-oh-boy did I do a double take!! Here we've already GOT a Chris O - : even though he's not superchatty on the ng, he's certainly HERE. So, new : ChrisO - I think you may have to be O'Chris or something, to differentiate!! Greetings, O'Chris, Now you have a bit of Irish in ye ;) - -Matt - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 1999 15:42:53 GMT From: elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) Subject: Re: Teeny Little Super Guy chad schrock (chad@radix.net) wrote: : Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: : > Funny, I don't remember schoolhouse rock either, although Steve : > does. (I'm 36, he's 37). I do however have fond memories of : > watching Zoom and Electric Company *in school* in 4th grade : > (it was considered highly educational of course.) : I grew up on SHR!. I remember that more clearly than Sesame : Street or 3-2-1 Contact. Was the guy who sang, "I hanker for a hunk of cheese" part of SHR? Matt - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:02:01 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Re: Continuing stories (was top 5 books) In article <19990128005052.27922.00000316@ng111.aol.com>, jenncyn@aol.com says... > Several years ago I was in a summer creative writing program at UW, and a bunch > of us in the program would do these for fun. Some of the stories turned out > wonderfully absurd. I used to do a version of this with some friends in Florida - we'd sit around a table and write a story with each person contributing one word at a time. The only rules were that sentences had to be grammatically correct, and that one couldn't punctuate one's own word: If a word seemed like the end of a sentence, for example, the next person in line got to supply the appropriate punctuation, and then give their word to begin the next sentence. I still have those stories somewhere, but I can never find them when I want to. My all-time favorite line from one of them, though, is "Scream again, my candied yam!" k@ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:55:23 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Calling all GRUMPS viewers . . . how was it? come on people--throw us americans a bone :). ~~kate - -- **************************************************************************** Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu **************************************************************************** nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight - --bruce cockburn, "lovers in a dangerous time" and so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. - --douglas adams, "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" we're splitting into two camps--mike, i'm with you. - --jian ghomeshi, bottom line, 1/1 *************************************************************************** nafio@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <78pu70$9ot$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... >Lori wrote: >> Just wanted to thank everyone, and Fiona in particular, for the >> devastating wit contained on her webpage. > >Didn't write 'em, I just quote 'em. (Look for another update on Sunday or >Monday.. although going to Grumps put me behind schedule and I'm sure Windsor >will do the same) > >Glad he got the concept. Don't suppose he wrote any Fruvous haiku? *g* >Fiona > >"I'm SO a Dave's people if it weren't for Mike..." >-Marie-Claude Nov 16/98 > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:07:02 GMT From: puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal) Subject: Fave Books Like most of you I can't choose just five but here are the top several: The Wheel Of Time series by robert Jordan (thats 8 BIG books right there) The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis (lots to say about this book/set see below) The Ship Who Sang by Anne McCaffery ( I read this about six times the first time I checked it out from the library) Restoree by Anne McCaffery ( this combines her SF stuff and her romance stuff I reccomend it to people who don't like SF) Alice In Wonderland by Lewis Carroll ( I collect all things Alice) The Books of Blood by Clive Barker ( a series of five or six books containing short stories, more below) Holiday House by Clive Barker (only a little scary, suitable for children as young as 10) Good Omens by Neil Gaman and Terry Pratchett ( I thought it was Douglas Adams but my husband says Pratchett, more below) The Narnia books, I know by reading evryone elses posts that these are popular and I have two things here. First off when I was 16 (now 31) my mother called home from work one day and asked if I had ever read some books aboutsome Lion, called Narnia. I said of course I had. I read them when I was 9. She said "I knew it". Now this was odd enough because my Mom doesn't read. In fact in the last decade (at least) she has read one and only one book, one I leant her. The reason she had called is that one of the Doctors she worked for had an Aslan belt buckle, when she'd asked about it he told her where it was from. She told him that she thought I'd read them. He asked how old I was and he told her that she was mistaken since I was far too young. So she had called. I told her to point out that TLTWATW had been written for his 5 year old grand-daughter Lucy. I just love to share that story. The second thing to say is has anyone else but me noticed and been bothered by the way they are numbering the Narnia books now? They are listing The Magicians Nephew as #1. The first time I saw this was in a bookstore in Toronto and I became absolutely hopping mad. Almost frothing at the mouth I guess, my husband talked me down. I mean if you read that first then the magic of TLTWATW is just ruined because you know all the secrets already, no mystery, no joy of discovery, all ruined. You can read TMN anywhere in the series except #1 and be fine, my favorite placing is #6 it's original position. I have pointed this out to people I seen looking for books, even store clerks. Most clerks I tell have never read them and seem mystified as to why I would mention it in the first place. Oh well probably just me I guess. But I tell you I would love to get hold of the person who's less than brillian idea this was and give them a large piece of my mind. Clive Barker: I do love this man's work. Stephen King writes a good short story, I'm scared while reading it but it's over when I close the book. Barker gave me nightmares and made me afraid to drive home at night. His story Candyman (never seen the movie never will) still bothers me over 10 years after reading it. It had a run down apartment complex in it. Outside of the town I lived in was an abandoned complex all fenced around with chain link fencing and razor wire. It had been empty for years I was told. But at night there would be a light in one window. The next night it was in a different window, the third night yet another window. I quit going that way and took the long way home. His stuff isn't for everyone and some are just gross but I do reccomend his work to one and all. Good Omens: A somewhat lighthearted look at the Apocolypse. Very irreverant, so if you have strong religous beliefs that do not lend to joking at Biblical things you might not want to read it but I think it was just hysterical. Afterall where else will you find the anti-christ with a hell puppy instead of hound, a devil who has the greenest plants in town maintained by sheer terror, and all the music by Queen you could possibly stand! Just delightful. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:01:16 GMT From: Cameron_Ross@ufacademy.com (Cameron Ross) Subject: Re: Lotsa stuff no one else remembers (in a big lump) > >>The Principle of the school over the P.A. System > >>"I have lost my man, he is 4 feet tall, and plastic, if you see him > >>please return him to me as soon as possible" > > >Uh, is there a story here? Nobody at school was couragus enough to inquire further :) - - Life101 - "Jesus was a Jesus Freak" -Dan Bern ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:51:35 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: URGENT MESSAGE FOR FRUHEADS LuCkYDaBeD@aol.com wrote: > << play one massive game of Taboo. >> > Ooooooh. Heh, I'm probably wrong here, but isn't that a game that you can buy > or something? Yeah. That's what I meant. > *buzzes the little buzzer thingy from Taboo* It's also great for mock-shaving! - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:48:43 GMT From: Christi218@aol.com Subject: Re: Teeny Little Superguy (was some stuff) In a message dated 99-01-28 10:34:22 EST, nafio@my-dejanews.com writes: > I saw it about 3 times but never taped it. I do have "On Gordon Pond" > (Watches all the americans go "huh?") which was a 90 minute Much Music > special which included a few minutes of the recording of "the ballad of > gordon" featuring the guys giggling and explaining that FOX wanted them to > change the lyrics. I'm an American and I'm not going "huh?" =) Christine. - --Chrissy_K on irc ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 1999 16:26:31 GMT From: Ambush Bug Subject: Re: kinda like the lowest/highest point Remember when Halley Johnson said: : What is the first thing you know? : Answer will follow, but I'll give you a little help here -- don't go too : deep, its really quite simple..... Ooooh! Ooooh! I know. This was the favorite joke of someone I used to work with.... [Obligitory Spoiler Space. Do not scroll down if you don't want to know the answer.] The first thing you know... ... Ole' Jeb's a Millionaire.... AB - -- "This tattoo won't come off. I thought it was the lick 'em/stick 'em kind. But I couldn't figure out what that machine was for. Or why I was in so much pain." -- Mary Prankseter Try Koplio's Story! Get it at http://www.aliensoft.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:00:43 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: subscribing LuCkYDaBeD@aol.com wrote: > > I am trying to get one of my friends to subscribe to this, and I want to tell > her how, but I kind of forgot. Can somebody tell me how? How do you want to subscribe? You can get the ng through a newsserver or through email. Dunno how'd you'd do the newsserver way. Probably some fancy button on your AOL that half the time makes your computer crash and the other half does something semi-productive in terms of getting you closer to what you want to happen. Look for something like subscribe. If you want email ng, check out http://www.fruvous.com/other.html. It's got info on the mail<-->news gateway. Hope that helps! - Chad (just back from Texas and catching up) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:50:42 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: CN Tower LuCkYDaBeD@aol.com wrote: > somebody could always come to Iowa, and I could show them the corn! Yay! "Do you pronounce it corn-land or cornland?" - Jian talking about Indiana - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:54:54 GMT From: aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992) Subject: Re: Teeny Little Superguy (was some stuff) > (Just last >week, I heard an 18 year old refer to himself as a "Gen-Xer", so the >popular media definition seems to be growing with time.) I think Generation X "officially" (or whatever that means) ended with those born in 1981. Aleigh Check it out! Check it totally out!! --> http://i.am/not_your_broom "Your feet are freezing in the ice of reason and it's too little much too late"~ Yazbek ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:38:52 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: Fave Books On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:07:02 GMT, puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal) wrote: > The second thing to say is has anyone else but me >noticed and been bothered by the way they are numbering the Narnia >books now? They are listing The Magicians Nephew as #1. The first >time I saw this was in a bookstore in Toronto and I became absolutely >hopping mad. Yep, when I bought the series for my nieces, I put them in the *correct* order, bound them with a rubber band and explained to the girls that they should ignore the original numbers on the books and read them in the order I've placed them in. Aside from the fact that TLTWATW is *supposed* to be read first, TMN is weak as a series opener. You're supposed to meet the Pevensies first, get to like them, go through the 4 books about them and their relatives/friends, read the extras (H&HB, TMN) before finishing it off with a reunion of every good character you've ever read about. Lewis' order may not be chronological, but there IS a method to his madness. What ever made the publishers think they should or could do a better job of ordering the books than the author? It is simply mind-boggling. Ahh, you got me started, this rant wasn't my fault. Those books were my *favorite* books as a child, and in fact I even had the illustrated Narnia calendar one year, so I get upset when people mess with em :) We now join our regularly scheduled program, already in progress, - -- Trace gemini@p3.net *sniff* Target is within sniffing range. Hailing on all frequencies. *woop woop* Visual acquired. Our bogie is at 9:00. Fire when ready. - 1/1 BL dum tek ca tek tek ca tek tek *snort* ARGH *glare* Follow THAT one lads.... - 1/2 BL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:06:08 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Teeny Little Superguy (was some stuff) petit_chou@juno.com wrote: > > Andrea asked if: > >anyone remembers Teeny Little Superguy... > Oh, of course! Do you remember that guy who I eventually figured out was > a large orange with a top hat and spindley legs and a cane? He sang > about nutrition, and was the first guy who gave us the idea to make > popcicles with toothpicks and juice and ice-trays. Gads, I loved that > man. Wait. Didn't Teeny Little Superguy have a pal? Like, a nephew or > something? The memory on that aspect is really fuzzy, but I sort of > remember someone else. Help? There was the time an even littler super guy came out. Either that or Teeny Little Superguy got shrunk. Anyways, the smaller one was Teeny TEENY Little Superguy and spoke in a really shrill high voice. > We already know that a lot of you guys were big Square One fans (woo > hoo), but does anyone MY age remember Schoolhouse Rock? Like, NO ONE out > here knows what I'm talking about, but I have such vivid recollections of > Lolly Lolly Lolly (Get Your Adverbs Here) and Interplanet Janet and I'm > Just A Bill and "Weeeee the peeeeeeople, in order to form a more perfect > uuuuuuuuunion..." and all that. I mean, now there's this huge resurgence > of their popularity, but I distinctly remember those cartoons from when I > was wee. Oh well. Maybe that just means that I was glued to the TV at a > really young age. : ) Hey, I read a lot when I was little, too, damnit! I dunno how old you are, but I remember all the Schoolhouse Rocks! stuff from ABC when I was a kid. When they started to resurge in popularity I could freak people out by knowing it at first glance. It was great. And by the way, I can play the bass line to Unpacked your Adjectives and have played the Mr. Morton song as a walking blues... And I also thought Interplanet Janet was a bad song. Interplanet Janet, she's a galaxy girl. A Solar System bitch from a future world. Of course I think it is actually a solar system miss from a future world, but hey, I was a kid... ;) - Chad PS The intercom just said "Duran Duran, you have a can on 6267. Duran Duran, call on 6267." That was funny. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:06:08 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Teeny Little Superguy (was some stuff) petit_chou@juno.com wrote: > > Andrea asked if: > >anyone remembers Teeny Little Superguy... > Oh, of course! Do you remember that guy who I eventually figured out was > a large orange with a top hat and spindley legs and a cane? He sang > about nutrition, and was the first guy who gave us the idea to make > popcicles with toothpicks and juice and ice-trays. Gads, I loved that > man. Wait. Didn't Teeny Little Superguy have a pal? Like, a nephew or > something? The memory on that aspect is really fuzzy, but I sort of > remember someone else. Help? There was the time an even littler super guy came out. Either that or Teeny Little Superguy got shrunk. Anyways, the smaller one was Teeny TEENY Little Superguy and spoke in a really shrill high voice. > We already know that a lot of you guys were big Square One fans (woo > hoo), but does anyone MY age remember Schoolhouse Rock? Like, NO ONE out > here knows what I'm talking about, but I have such vivid recollections of > Lolly Lolly Lolly (Get Your Adverbs Here) and Interplanet Janet and I'm > Just A Bill and "Weeeee the peeeeeeople, in order to form a more perfect > uuuuuuuuunion..." and all that. I mean, now there's this huge resurgence > of their popularity, but I distinctly remember those cartoons from when I > was wee. Oh well. Maybe that just means that I was glued to the TV at a > really young age. : ) Hey, I read a lot when I was little, too, damnit! I dunno how old you are, but I remember all the Schoolhouse Rocks! stuff from ABC when I was a kid. When they started to resurge in popularity I could freak people out by knowing it at first glance. It was great. And by the way, I can play the bass line to Unpacked your Adjectives and have played the Mr. Morton song as a walking blues... And I also thought Interplanet Janet was a bad song. Interplanet Janet, she's a galaxy girl. A Solar System bitch from a future world. Of course I think it is actually a solar system miss from a future world, but hey, I was a kid... ;) - Chad PS The intercom just said "Duran Duran, you have a can on 6267. Duran Duran, call on 6267." That was funny. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:27:51 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: kinda like the lowest/highest point Halley invited us to ponder: > What is the first thing you know? I. > Answer will follow, but I'll give you a little help here -- don't go too > deep, its really quite simple..... If *I* am right (is right?) it (I) is (am) simple indeed. :D - -- Lori, giggling. ************** how many ears of corn in the niblets? how much do they weigh? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:07:54 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Pisco the criminal budgiefish Hey kids! check out the new mutant mascot on the hot-pink Fruvous postcard! while I like k@'s interpretation, this apparent piscine variation of Larry B. Clebdon just helps *everything* fall into place. Can it be I'm really the first one to have gotten this thing? - -- Lori, giddy. ************************** la la la la ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:20:19 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Who needs a hotel room for Frucon? Our noble Gordon did say: >If your party is one, two or three and you are staying those nights (18, 19, >20), please email me and let me know. 4 people staying there would be $25 per >night plus tax Canadian, which is like....what? $4??? >References available - just ask anyone. "Is Gordon OK?" and hear a resounding >"Uuuhhh...yeah....sure....I guess...." Gordon is a gentleman among gents! A knight in shining armor! A reliable escort through the bowels of NYC in the ice at 4 a.m.! Well, that's my reference anyway. Gordon, my friend, I owe you a ride in the Cushy Cozy FruCar of Bliss, to the destination of your choice within TO! (Or maybe I just owe you a beer or something, I don't know.) But yeah, Gordon's a good guy. A real good guy. - -- Lori, who doesn't normally gush like this. Well, about anyone except Murray. :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:23:23 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Re: Heather's weird rant about educators... >Oh, goodness, he is. He's the neatest. He's the one who read >Scieszka's "Math Curse" to us. Very cool guy. I'm still in touch >with him and we e-mail quite often. You know, I e-mail *a lot* of my >teachers (new and old) often. Izzat weird? Anyway, he's the coolest >of the cool (as math teachers go) and to top it off, he wore a kilt at >his wedding -- AND he's Canadian. Is there anything better? Oh! he really *does* rock! Yeah, this was Mr Harmond's last day.... he skipped LOL!!!!! But we have each others email and plan to have many conversations. Naw its not wierd at all... to me at least. I call my teachers all the time just to chill. We need to get togather and have coffee sometime. >Girl, as Bartles and James would say, Thank You Fer Your Support. I'm >glad (and sad) to hear that you've had equally cool experiences with >teachers (sad that you've gotta leave em). Right on! Let's form PETE >-- People for the Ethical Treatment of Educators! Ya with me? All the way Baby! My teachers (the 2 really cool adv american studies ones) were complaining that their backs hurt, so after my final/ midterm (its complicated) I gave them back massages. My non compassionate peers were thought I was trying to get Brownie point. *Knock, knock on the head* Hello in there? Anyone home? Why would I need extra points if I have an A? Rejects Fruchild ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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